SU-27 Flanker Differential thrust VS F-16 Viper CRAZY Dogfight | DCS World

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  • @LongShotChannel
    @LongShotChannel  2 роки тому +12

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    Hey guys! In this DCS World Simulator video I'm Fling the SU27 Flanker against the F16 Viper flown by Peregrine, Thanks so much for the help!
    In this one I'm using Differential thrust on the SU27 Flanker and the results are insane.
    Hope you guys enjoy!

  • @Anton_Kalgin
    @Anton_Kalgin 2 роки тому +246

    And with this dogfight LongShot has qualified past Top Gun and straight into Ace Combat-level of flying.

    • @BroBytesBhai
      @BroBytesBhai 2 роки тому +5

      Laughing so hard at this even tho it's kinda stupid.

    • @Name-ps9fx
      @Name-ps9fx 2 роки тому +14

      @@BroBytesBhai
      If it works, it ain't stupid. I'd like to know if Tomcat pilots have confirmed using DT as in the movie.

    • @reillyhernandez2645
      @reillyhernandez2645 2 роки тому +2

      @@Name-ps9fx Some Iranian pilots claim to have done it.

    • @CH1K3N99
      @CH1K3N99 2 роки тому +7

      @@Name-ps9fx If you look further down someone posted about a p-38 ace in WW2 using it to great efficiency! And those engines are meters apart!

    • @tonyrun5802
      @tonyrun5802 2 роки тому

      Wonderful

  • @weeblekeneeble8018
    @weeblekeneeble8018 2 роки тому +295

    GS split throttle very gently between his while Longshot here goin balls out AB and idle whipping the flanker to get his kills. Kudos to the insane kills bro.

    • @Krecikdwamiljony
      @Krecikdwamiljony 2 роки тому +38

      Yeah, exactly. GS is fighting roughly the same fight as usual, just stacking every little advantage he can find in his favour, while Longshot basically went haha I'm a drunk flying pancake

    • @Bl4ckD0g
      @Bl4ckD0g 2 роки тому +16

      Reminds me of another Longshot vid where he told GS he was gonna gain 'a little speed' and proceeded to go full AB.

  • @Prophet-of-the-Unknown-Lord
    @Prophet-of-the-Unknown-Lord 2 роки тому +84

    03:05 And this is how LongShot will be credited with inventing the most insane air combat maneuver ever... the legendary Negative Cobra.
    Incredible video man, one of the best I've seen!

  • @gibz5467
    @gibz5467 2 роки тому +77

    It's almost like the flanker is a goddamn transformer
    that really likes trickshots

    • @heatblast876
      @heatblast876 2 роки тому +5

      Remind me of starscream (F22) from the transformers movie 2007.

  • @letsgo_inc
    @letsgo_inc 2 роки тому +88

    So OBVIOUSLY we need a series of videos of GS vs LS (battle of the split throttlers) and GS w/ LS (Walmart 5th gen duo)

  • @spidlenexor
    @spidlenexor 2 роки тому +85

    imagine doing a 360 no scope in a freaking fighter jet

    • @tonyrun5802
      @tonyrun5802 2 роки тому +2

      Oh, GS already did it in a MiG-29, sorta

  • @wilkinsle1987
    @wilkinsle1987 2 роки тому +75

    Legit feels like this battle is the flanker's ballet dance.

    • @MeteCanKarahasan
      @MeteCanKarahasan 2 роки тому +1

      Stopping in mid air magic bullet, this flanker is. Unbelievable! I wonder if any human pilot could survive the G's.

    • @Upbt50gt
      @Upbt50gt 2 роки тому

      @@MeteCanKarahasan some f1 driver survived a 50g crash somehow

    • @ege5804
      @ege5804 2 роки тому

      @@Upbt50gt it was either Felippe Massa or Romain Grosjean

    • @martinpalmer6203
      @martinpalmer6203 2 роки тому +4

      ​@@MeteCanKarahasan Flankers at airshows do this, ive seen videos of what is almost like a ballet , the thing turns and pirouettes in ways which defy what your brain perceives as the limits of fixed wing aircraft.
      the split throttle combined with 3d vectoring on the su35 and su57 is doubtless why/how they are managing some of these mindbending moves

  • @ege5804
    @ege5804 2 роки тому +38

    You are an absolute grandmaster with Flankers. That thing in the hands of someone skillful behaves like something out of this planet.

  • @dstavs
    @dstavs 2 роки тому +26

    LS has now engaged “God Mode” in the Flanker.

  • @grndiesel
    @grndiesel 2 роки тому +19

    F16: I can fly rings around a Flanker.
    Flanker: I have you right where I want you.

  • @Rayidrs
    @Rayidrs 2 роки тому +32

    Once you master it, and fly with a thrust vectored plane, with your aggressive flying style.. OMG!

  • @CH1K3N99
    @CH1K3N99 2 роки тому +11

    Your camera work is really really good. You say DCS is hard to get angles, but you make it look easy!
    This really is one of yours and the best DCS videos quickly showing the advanced aerodynamics on show. From engines cutting out from air flow, to flat spins in and out of all sorts of angles. Bravo

  • @BoloMalboro
    @BoloMalboro 2 роки тому +51

    DT is usefull when You're really slow on high AOA and need fast roll rate. In a merge with higher speed and especially in horizontal turn not so much because You need a thrust and nose authority there not a roll rate. Great episode! Greetings from Polish Air Force;)

    • @HuyV
      @HuyV 2 роки тому +1

      Why does it even roll? Shouldn't it be yaw rate?

  • @mekafka6756
    @mekafka6756 2 роки тому +17

    There we go boys, LS in a flanker finallyyy! Loved the freestyle dogfighting with the DT

  • @jklappenbach
    @jklappenbach 2 роки тому +12

    For pilots, it's instinctive to bank 90 deg in order to turn as hard as possible. But for dif thrust, you don't want to roll 90. That will point the vector of thrust downward when you want yaw. Basically, you lose the benefit of difthrust. Use your pedals with less bank to help accelerate the turn.

    • @cujbaion1
      @cujbaion1 2 роки тому

      Actually 80° if you want to maintain the altitude helping with the ruder in order to avoid the flight around a tilted axis.

  • @Variety_Pack
    @Variety_Pack 2 роки тому +3

    Dude, this is hilarious! That kill in Round 3 you were basically playing football with that underarm lateral pass! This whole video is just ridiculous, I freaking love it. Watching you wallow around like a first time pilot made my day. Your first kill was like a wobbly-kneed toddler stumbling around after church! I know you're an excellent pilot, which makes this so much more fun. Keep exploring split throttle flying, it might become the meta in DCS!

  • @lamhkak47
    @lamhkak47 2 роки тому +4

    5:40 That move looks like straight out from a movie!

  • @veyev4320
    @veyev4320 2 роки тому +11

    These Sukhois are beautiful beasts! ❤‍🔥

  • @gtmike916
    @gtmike916 2 роки тому +6

    Man’s out here doing 360 off bore sight no look missile shots and getting kills!!! On a Viper no less!!

  • @moistmike4150
    @moistmike4150 2 роки тому +1

    ...Aaaaaand if you hadn't nailed him with that last missile in Round-5, that Viper woulda had an SU-27 for lunch. Friggin' AWESOME FLYING LongShot!

  • @riddlex
    @riddlex 2 роки тому +11

    This is one of the craziest videos indeed! I wonder what would be the turn circle in a SU-30 with differential thrust. It already has thrust vectoring, so it would be interesting to watch.

  • @moistmike4150
    @moistmike4150 2 роки тому

    The highest scoring U.S. fighter ace in WW2 (40 kills) was Richard Bong who flew the P-38 Lighting fighter. He stated that his kill count went so high because he'd mastered splitting the throttle of the Lightning's two engines, which gave him an edge in high-speed turn fights. In contrast, most P-38 pilots were happy to simply use the Lighting's high speed, zoom-n-boom advantage to get (relatively) straight-forward kills on Japanese Navy and Army fighters, as learning the split-throttle technique on the already highly complex P-38 was well beyond most pilot's capabilities or inclination to learn. Tragically, Richard Bong perished shortly prior to the end of WW2 while flying a P-80 Shooting Star whose engine failed immediately after take off, but he will go down in history as a one of the only aces who mastered split-throttle combat in the amazing P-38 fighter (also see Thomas McGuire - Bong's main kill-count competitor (38 kills) and fellow P-38 split-throttle master).

  • @hawkertyphoon4537
    @hawkertyphoon4537 2 роки тому +2

    Looks like the big bird is flapping about the sky helplessly.
    ... but it could not be further from the truth!

  • @Name-ps9fx
    @Name-ps9fx 2 роки тому +3

    Wow, a couple of times you weren't flying, you were "falling with style"...and with the kills that makes it a beautiful ballet!

    • @gfarrell80
      @gfarrell80 2 роки тому

      That's literal Top Gun stuff, flying an inch away from 'out of control'

  • @MeteCanKarahasan
    @MeteCanKarahasan 2 роки тому

    5:40 omg, that was so hilarious! Flatspin victory celebration.

  • @danielberger1378
    @danielberger1378 2 роки тому +1

    Duuude.... as if your dogfights with the Flanker weren't insane enough already. THIS topped the cake so far 🤯

  • @Erik_123
    @Erik_123 2 роки тому +1

    Not even half way through and you already earned my like. That first kill...

  • @RocketPropelledGuy
    @RocketPropelledGuy 2 роки тому +3

    Getting thrust back at the last second was Hollywood tier shit yet here we are, that happened.

  • @kindasupersonic7114
    @kindasupersonic7114 2 роки тому +1

    Bro! That flanker action was disgusting !!!!! That was awesome !

  • @TheSithTeacher
    @TheSithTeacher 2 роки тому

    05:22 terrific dogfight and shot!
    "Snap"shot!

  • @heatblast876
    @heatblast876 2 роки тому +1

    This scene is always will be the best. Brilliant Longshot, it just Brilliant, the way you just payback the missile to defeat F16, seriously this is what I call a best dogfight.

  • @dl6519
    @dl6519 2 роки тому

    Wow. Nice job!! And a salute to TopGun instructor Pete "Maverick" Mitchell.

  • @hitstick567
    @hitstick567 2 роки тому +3

    Longshot hitting 360 weapon swap no scopes👀

  • @neubert500
    @neubert500 2 роки тому +3

    Dude! I love your enjoyment and humor during these vids even if I hate to see US planes shot down. You remind me of playing on a local network with friends and our laughter as we played. Thanks for these!

  • @HitAndMissLab
    @HitAndMissLab 2 роки тому

    Brilliant video.
    Editing was really good and made dramatic part even better.

  • @soumyajitsingha9614
    @soumyajitsingha9614 2 роки тому +1

    the F 16 looked awesome in that blue red flag team red livery

  • @xmeda
    @xmeda 2 роки тому +1

    Nice, now you almost know how those display pilots can do wild stuff with Su-27/30/35 family :) If you add thrust vectoring for Su-35, good luck to any enemy during dogfight.

  • @spider_corsa
    @spider_corsa 2 роки тому

    Cobra? More looks like a "falling leaf" maneuver :D It's beautiful, especially in autumn :D

  • @brianwright9514
    @brianwright9514 2 роки тому +1

    That was a nice falling leaf missile shot. Now we need you and GS to have a split throttle dogfight. 😂

  • @lilletrille8998
    @lilletrille8998 2 роки тому +1

    Wow great video Longshot - in the afternoons and evenings I sit infront of my PC waiting for a new video! Thank you SO much! Stay safe Sir!

    • @LongShotChannel
      @LongShotChannel  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you, stay safe as well buddy, thanks for tje support

  • @GabrielVitor-kq6uj
    @GabrielVitor-kq6uj 2 роки тому

    That was insane LS!!! just INSANE!!! awesome video, thanks I really enjoyed this one so much, it ended up so freaking fast

  • @zv7eket3
    @zv7eket3 2 роки тому +1

    I wouldn't be surprised, if Longshot can splash an F-22 with DT SU-27

  • @njegosh1
    @njegosh1 2 роки тому

    Dude, this was insane!!! Well done!

  • @ConfusedBlueDragon
    @ConfusedBlueDragon 2 роки тому +14

    If Longbow can consistently slap an F-16 out of the sky in an SU-27, then I'd hate to imagine how lethal he'd be in a *thrust vectoring* aircraft like the SU-30 or SU-35...

    • @Ghoster311
      @Ghoster311 2 роки тому +4

      F-16 was not made for low speed high AoA fights. An F-18 would have been a better opponent.

    • @narcissus79
      @narcissus79 2 роки тому +1

      @@Ghoster311 then that is the fault of the viper pilot for playing to longshot's rules.

    • @tippership
      @tippership 2 роки тому

      @@Ghoster311 this is true,its not a hornet...but even in a rate fight on the deck, two circle, flanker can still hit that special aoa limiter, though the diff thrust might be less useful
      AOA lets you aim at him anytime, good post stall nose pointing control with no limit on AOA is unstoppable

  • @vaclavkolar6750
    @vaclavkolar6750 2 роки тому +1

    Dude you're such a weapon in flankers! Keep it coming 🔥🔥

  • @TheCobra114-o5e
    @TheCobra114-o5e 2 роки тому

    5:40 that looked like some project wingman shit right there

  • @BigusA
    @BigusA 2 роки тому +3

    Awesome AND hilarious at the same time!

  • @koredalin
    @koredalin 2 роки тому +1

    Very nice, LongShot.
    You can try a similar video with SU-35 and SU-30.
    I'm curious what will happen then.

  • @jamieayres8030
    @jamieayres8030 2 роки тому +1

    Cool guys don't look at their kill shots. Awesome work there LongShot!

  • @LordPente
    @LordPente 2 роки тому

    I knew you would be good at this. Man, you really need to get a LOT of practice with it so you can totally catch people off guard. GS is gonna love it.

  • @NeutronRob
    @NeutronRob 2 роки тому

    Like in the movie Flight of The Intruder. Pilot: " We had to do an engine shutdown." Squadron XO: "In the middle of combat?" LOL!

  • @warpedweirdo
    @warpedweirdo 2 роки тому

    That "flying" is f'n nuts! Outside camera views make it look like you set your jet flailing through the sky and you launch when the nose happens to be pointed closely enough at the other guy.

  • @diegofranco7500
    @diegofranco7500 2 роки тому +2

    You're too funny, man hahahah Great vid!!

  • @trevorsmith2006
    @trevorsmith2006 2 роки тому

    Longshot out there doing F22 falling leaf sh*t with a Flanker.

  • @ThePointlessBox_
    @ThePointlessBox_ 2 роки тому

    he's just floating there
    MENICINGLY

  • @ricbish
    @ricbish 2 роки тому

    Nice video LS. Interesting how maneuverable the SU can be. Thanks for sharing…

  • @WatchMysh
    @WatchMysh 2 роки тому

    Ridiculous. Lol. That third kill is just plainly awesome.

  • @ck9363
    @ck9363 2 роки тому

    When you used the differential thrust(when you left controlled flight 😉)to avoid that gun shot...it must've looked like you used magic, from his point ofview.
    Sometimes it's better to be lucky, than good.
    Lol, Great vid LS!

  • @Shockwave00108
    @Shockwave00108 2 роки тому

    5:56: It was at this moment DCS became Ace Combat for a few seconds XD

  • @ХРЕНОРЕЗ
    @ХРЕНОРЕЗ 2 роки тому +2

    What about the Su-57 differential thrust? + Deflected thrust vector. It will be a 360-degree police U-turn.

  • @matyastopa3643
    @matyastopa3643 2 роки тому +1

    Inverted cobra ?
    That was impressive. 🍻

  • @zooot820
    @zooot820 2 роки тому

    that kill in round 5 was the DCS equivalent of a 360 no-scope lol

  • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
    @GreenBlueWalkthrough 2 роки тому

    God gave you two throttles for a reason. Which something about the flanker I noticed landing it on a carrier abusing it's high aspect is... The engine are not in sync in the slightest like going from idle to full after burner one engine will always lag behind like a full second... So yeah you really masted the Flanker really impressive long shot!

  • @Stinger522
    @Stinger522 2 роки тому +1

    The one downside to differential thrust maneuvers is you end up dumping a lot of speed in the process. I wouldn't try it in a one v two fight. Another bandit could just come in a pick you off.
    I think Peregrine was relying on his gun too much whereas you were using your Archers to their fullest extent.

  • @disciple16
    @disciple16 2 роки тому

    Hahaha LongShot if you fly any slower you will earn a new call sign "SLOTH." That was great flying.

  • @juhsztn
    @juhsztn 2 роки тому

    definitely wanna see more differential thrust videos with super maneuverable aircraft

  • @leekwan06
    @leekwan06 2 роки тому

    Put meteor missiles on the wingtips. Use the missiles as wingtip rocket engines (without detaching them from the wing tips) to intermittently to create differential thrust.

  • @tonyrun5802
    @tonyrun5802 2 роки тому

    One of your absolute best videos. Outstanding work

  • @AandKify
    @AandKify 2 роки тому

    dude that first frag is super cool

  • @George-ez4qc
    @George-ez4qc 2 роки тому +1

    Can't wait to see more of that

  • @tzeffsmainchannel
    @tzeffsmainchannel 2 роки тому

    2:20 Superb Pilot Skills! SPS!

  • @antoniohagopian213
    @antoniohagopian213 2 роки тому +1

    So thrust vectoring without having thrust vectoring.
    May I recommend you use override stick deflection first half of a turn THEN go into direct control (cobra)? You probably know it but using override stick gives you more rudder power and it also works when in direct control mode. Gives you very good roll control at 90kts.

  • @yosho43
    @yosho43 2 роки тому

    Beautiful, I was wishing for a flanker video

  • @jackhall290
    @jackhall290 2 роки тому

    This is a wonderful example of how the information available to public differs from the information available to the pilots. this "5th gen fighter" capability is extremely high risk high reward for planes not designed around the abilities. you can see the plane lose its energy after every maneuver and it takes real skill to correct before it becomes a fatal error. The Raptor is designed for things like this in mind, it's evident in gameplay that it maintains its control and energy far better. this is an old dog with neat tricks but the F14 can pull similar moves. The Raptor(Su57) pilots were brought up with this being standard, they're undeniably hiding the newest neatest tricks that the plane and/or pilot "shouldn't" be capable of

    • @dupstep1617
      @dupstep1617 2 роки тому +1

      We need su57 and f22 with differencial trust

    • @AmericanDiscord
      @AmericanDiscord 2 роки тому

      @@dupstep1617 They do it by default IIRC. This is only applicable to 2-engine 4th gen.

  • @gfarrell80
    @gfarrell80 2 роки тому

    Round 3: awesome. That's basically an Immelmann turn kinda, right? Nose up, stall, but control the direction of the fall to get nose on.

  • @rmack9226
    @rmack9226 2 роки тому

    1:05
    **Flies right onto bandit's nose - couldn't do it better if you tried to do it on purpose**
    "Split throttles helped me dodge his nose lulz."
    Unreal.

  • @jrzyboy99
    @jrzyboy99 2 роки тому +1

    I wouldn’t say you were flying during your kills…seemed more like falling gracefully. 👍👍👍

  • @carsonw722
    @carsonw722 2 роки тому

    If LongShot was a real fighter pilot, I think he'd get kicked out for recklessness 🤣 My mans livin on a prayer.

  • @CivisMilitarum
    @CivisMilitarum 2 роки тому +1

    Super fun to watch you break all the rules 😎👍🏽

  • @3.9L_V8
    @3.9L_V8 2 роки тому

    I've always wondered whether the inverted cobra would have much use (considering the Flanker hates being inverted at low airspeed, flames out a lot). I guess this video proves it has its merits, in specific scenarios.

  • @veyev4320
    @veyev4320 2 роки тому +1

    It was a wow!! @5:00

  • @AdalbertSchneider_
    @AdalbertSchneider_ 2 роки тому

    Engineers in Sukhoi bureau rn: WTF is he doing with our plane ??? 🤦‍♂

  • @loicalex
    @loicalex 2 роки тому +1

    Flankers seem a lot harder to master but provide insane (tho risky) angles of attacks.

  • @dustinmckee1857
    @dustinmckee1857 2 роки тому +1

    Just straight flip it over from 180deg off let alone nose straight in the air, slow as the speed of smell, and yet get off a fox 2, lay on his stomach flat in the air and float away like a boss!! Well played mr longshot 🫡

  • @silentblackhole
    @silentblackhole 2 роки тому

    This is how wars should be fought in the future, virtually! With the same equipment, tools, tactics, planes and a 1:1 copy of earth. A country is challenged. A wager is then agreed upon and the rules of engagment are settled.
    I know this would never work in practice, but it would save that countless lives. An 18 year old kid shouldn't be to shot. Fathers should be able to watch their children be grow up. To guide and teach them. Famiies shouldn't be torn apart.
    This will never happen, but I can dream..

  • @CenturionDobrius
    @CenturionDobrius 2 роки тому +1

    Next video: F16 with differential throttle 😀

  • @takkubell
    @takkubell 2 роки тому

    Damn the flanker went raptor mode.

  • @clockworkorange3628
    @clockworkorange3628 2 роки тому

    You had that thing dancing like a ballerina with wings..

  • @sallbadguy6672
    @sallbadguy6672 2 роки тому

    Ok, now we all are dying to see you take on Growling Sidewinder in a differential thrust battle. GS in an F-14 vs your Flanker.

  • @BroBytesBhai
    @BroBytesBhai 2 роки тому

    Round 1 looks like a Heavy weight champion destroying a nimble light weighter with the plot twist being that the heavyweighter is much more nimbler. 😂

  • @debbiestimac5175
    @debbiestimac5175 2 роки тому +8

    5:32 was gorgeous cinematics! Chefs kiss perfect! You have made the Flanker into an F-22 falling leaf maneuver... monster! Wow, nice work Longshot!

  • @cujbaion1
    @cujbaion1 2 роки тому

    5:27 Nice manoeuvre☺

  • @sokratisbairaktaris6345
    @sokratisbairaktaris6345 2 роки тому

    ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!❤️🙏

  • @maitreytelang2312
    @maitreytelang2312 2 роки тому +3

    Hey LS, can you do a video of Su-30MKI Vs F-15 dogfight. Great video by the way.

  • @reidmortensen2629
    @reidmortensen2629 2 роки тому

    End of round one….
    bruh WHAT?
    I’m grateful you posted external views.

  • @getsideways7257
    @getsideways7257 2 роки тому

    Using the reverse Cobra like that, huh... Pretty neat :)

  • @venom_gotti-6970
    @venom_gotti-6970 2 роки тому

    I thought LongShot was playing Ace Combat 7 there in the third round 😂🔥🔥🔥 epic post stall kill

  • @heitoresteves4469
    @heitoresteves4469 2 роки тому

    Longshot so cool he kills vipers without even looking at them

  • @FrostyF16
    @FrostyF16 2 роки тому

    good to see another video with the viper!