Wild Blue Yonder is a Missed Opportunity (Doctor Who)
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- Review of the Doctor Who 60th Anniversary special Wild Blue Yonder which sees the 14th Doctor and Donna meet Isaac Newton then get trapped on a spaceship at the edge of the universe, with David Tennant and Catherine Tate getting to play the villainous not-things as well as a cameo from Bernard Cribbins.
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0:00 Intro
0:41 Isaac Newton mavity scene
1:29 Use of liminal space
3:49 The not-things and AI
6:10 Conclusion and Bernard Cribbins
What did you think of Wild Blue Yonder, is it the best episode? Could it have been better?
Your pronunciation of "premise" is baffling.
Fundamentally agree! I actually gave Star Beast a pass for the most part, but WBY set the standard for issues ive had ever since.
It was the one episode so far that really left a positive impression, for the most part
What bugged me most about Newton was his flamboyant, colourful clothing, more befitting a foppish city dandy than the provincial puritan that he was. Why the designer(s) felt compelled to zhoozh him up like a birthday cake is baffling.
Just one of many strange creative choices in that segment
I wonder if the new series will continue with the "mavity" bit?
Well it's already been referenced in the Christmas special, I guess they're trying to make it kind of like the "Hollywoo" thing in Bojack Horseman
@@MidnightChimey Was it? Ah well, I guess it's only a matter of time until it turns up again then!
It's already been in Space Babies. Mavity is shown on the ship's UI. It's a running gag for this new era
@@WhoShorts_ Thanks for the update. I guess it really is here to stay! 😳
@@WhoShorts_ Ashamed to be *that* guy but Mavity is a reference from Capaldi era. He "flubbed" a line and they keep it in. He's supposed to go "it's all about mavity." "gravity" but he gets it wrong (or they reverse it in the edit), so he gets it back to front and goes "it's all about gravity" "mavity" - who knows why Davies has latched on to it but he wasn't the progenitor at the very least
Love it, agree, though *why* it's a missed opportunity is what I find most compelling.
I think the key reason the story isn't about AI is a genre thing - the episode is ostensibly the bridge from Chibnall's buttoned down hard sci fi / hopepunk thing (talk about over-correcting from being the sexy cyber-woman guy) into Davies' science fantasy mode that he always worked best in. Noteworthy that Midnight, as a genre comparison, has no explanation for whatever the googa is that infests the ship - it's just scary and that's fine. The code switch of the Doctor doing the salt line effectively *prevents* the story from being a commentary on large language models because then your story's subject is in one genre and your commentary is about another - it can be done but Davies claims do that sequential thing where he writes the structure first with the emotional stakes then the actual scenes (always attributed to that Davies / Cook on writing but haven't read it so grain of salt there).
Also, and this is a whole other dialogue, I never understood the "why is your generation obsessed with social commentary" says the people who spent decades talking about Vietnam and the SSR. I've always suspected it's that they don't recognise/identify with the subject matter being discussed more than anything else and so dismiss it as self-serious and unnecessary. I suspect there's a body of research there beyond what I have from the 60's French philosophers - anyway, just a thought, would love to hear your thoughts on where you feel that attitude is produced from.
Anyhow, love the work, keep it up!
Thanks, I do suspect that a lot of the time with the "don't want to hear about politics" kind of arguments, what people really mean is don't want to hear about politics or social issues that don't apply to you. This idea of not really caring about anything is just a falsehood