Yeah but you didn’t even have the most recent comps when trading with the guy with the vintage box. You wanna charge 10$ a month to just reconfigure the way eBay solds are displayed?
If that’s annoying you’ll never do a deal then. You need to know how to talk with your customers and deal because look in the end he got the deal done and it’s always nice to have a talk and learning new stuff. Your annoying because you probably never made a deal in you lifetime 😂😂😂
Geoff, my respect for you has gained ten fold. That guy was the most annoying person I've ever seen do a deal in any video. kudos to you man for dealing with him, I would lose my mind
His whole spiel about what he thinks he could get cash for the cards and how vintage is less risky was so ridiculous.. you go off of comps, not your perception of what you “think” someone would give you cash for them. All of the perceived risk/reward is already baked into the price. It’s not an additional factor that you get a discount for. What a joker.
Never make deals with someone who spends 15mins telling you why no one should want your cards, while he's trying to GET your cards. People like this need to exit the hobby. Total bozo.
Man Geoff, idc what anybody says or thinks, I have learned more about sports cards and all the nuances involved from you than anybody else in this industry! You also have a way of motivating me to make purchases that I wouldn’t have otherwise. And almost every one has skyrocketed in value, just like you said! Thanks for everything you do man!
The nerve of that guy to try to talk down a beautiful gold jordan auto as if it was somehow some risky modern piece and the ridiculousness of using assumptions of what HE thought the next comp would be.. boy that was awful.
Man I love watching your videos! I wish I could get out to one of these shows but it’s so hard in my area upstate NY, plus I’m physically disabled so getting anywhere is really hard. I’d love to look around at these shows though
I had a hard time watching/listening to the guy with the vintage let alone sit down with him. Talking crap about newer stuff while over hyping his vintage stuff. Smh. All while trying to pick up the “modern” stuff. I woulda walked away in minutes.
I would have walked away from the vintage collector a few times. Dude is not the kind of guy I would want to do business with. props to you Geoff, displaying patience and the Gator standard everywhere you go!
I love how Geoff says Lawrence cards are up and he had to look at his own app to see they are down 30% even before the injury. Why I don't believe a word he says. Notice he didn't show comps on the Jordan 86 Fleer and just made up some numbers.
@@carolinatarheels7903 value is truly in the eye of the beholder, and it's a risk like many things.... honestly crazy that a printed piece of paper could hold so much value LOL but ya do your research before so you at least know what you're getting in to
Wow bro, that young man with the Vintage was a BEAST!! Mad credit to him for not only knowing vintage, but also knowing Trevor Lawrence was down 40% although he's playing well
That guy didn't wanna trade his Ruth and Cobb. The entire time he's trying to talk himself out of it but gives in because he's dealing with an influencer on camera. Why he'd be willing to move either of those for a Trevor Lawrence is beyond me. That card won't hold it's value long term.
I don’t think the dude was that bad. Spent a lot of time just wanting to talk about specific questions about the market. Challenged certain things Geoff had gotten wrong which ended up making the trade more fair at the end of the day.
Love the kid with glasses trade you could tell Geoff was aggravated but at the end he came around to the kid and it was a fun good trade man love it !!!!!
I understand many folks are not going to enjoy the Vintage trader. However, he took advantage of the knowledge in front of him. He showed his competency. I enjoyed the discomfort. Well done by both parties.
man i'd be trading all my newer crap for vintage any time i could make those trades happen. Reading articles on manufactured scarcity vs actual rarity is good and interesting.
Vintage guy is a genius that y’all don’t even realize what he did. He basically got that T Law for free lol. I think he isn’t being honest when he says that he only deals in vintage now. If that were true he wouldn’t be making that deal in the first place. I think what his genius strategy is, is to find people who want to get into vintage who have high end modern and use his vintage collection for leverage. Anyone who is tired of the up and downs of modern and wanting to get into high end vintage are in the honeymoon phase so they pay up just to get into it and get some stability and cool cards. So I think he talks up the aspects of vintage then down the aspects of modern and he comes up with an extra 15-20% on the deal and cash no less.
I sold all of my football cards the day I saw Brock Purdy cards selling more than a 15+ year Tom Brady career, because Brock had a good half season…… and I’m from SF and a49er fan lol That’s when I knew the entire football card game is a game of Hot Potato. Time will tell if all these “$20k” cards drop by 99%. The Babe Ruth’s were pretty nice
I think you won. Simply said, it brings you a slam dunk end of game winner, and or a walk off home run grand slam winner type of joy, thst you can't affix a monetary value too Thanks for sharing another one of your adventures, that brings me, what your trade brought you. Well Done!
Happy holidays to anyone reading this❤....that dude would be tough for me to personally deal with (cut auto guy)..seemed he was more into clout chasing..great video, the cards ive been able to see by watching your channel is 🤯...🙏🙏🎯
Geoff, what’s with Market Movers having bad comps? Why does Market Movers not consider Robert Edward or Mile High to be accurate comps? Or if they do, why not include them to improve the accuracy of your product?
In my opinion, The collector was right about his cards (Vintage) would sell better and be worth more be in the long run , there is less of it. The market is so saturated with all these new ultra modern cards coming, refractors pink, blue yellow , gold turquoise I mean dam how many color variations can you get ??? He looked up his own cards on mile high . Like geoff said , those cards are for his personal collection if anything the value of those cards will not drop significantly unlike like the new cards makes you wonder if the player will go " COLD" or " HOT ". Anyway just my thought and opinion on these video. That's all folks
Pirates jersey vintage dealer might be the worst dealer to ever deal with. His 29k bronko last sold for 21k and it was the highest sale ever and always says his copies are better.
People hating on the guy for taking his time in a trade that could cost both parties thousands of dollars. I think more than anything you should learn from how diligent that guy was, and I think both parties came out with a win. You don’t amass a collection like that dude had by trying without being diligent. A lot of us know a lot about the modern stuff because we submerge ourselves in it, you can tell when stopped doing modern and focused on his vintage collection he gotta got detached from it and why he had to take his time and respect for asking the questions he did. Great video
If this guy didnt repeat himself and ask the same questions in multiple ways......this 25 minute video could have been 4-5 minutes. Great patience. I would have shook hands and walked away
I hate how he says I can get more cash for mine than you can for yours… The MJ just sold for 10.6 on the same site that the vintage guy is gonna sell his cards on!
I see that guy at shows all the time and he sucks to deal with! Always has an attitude and always fights every comp. He will always burn someone who is trying to sell to him.
I use Market Movers to price out cards and track my collection: www.marketmoversapp.com
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Yeah but you didn’t even have the most recent comps when trading with the guy with the vintage box. You wanna charge 10$ a month to just reconfigure the way eBay solds are displayed?
That vintage collector was annoying. I actually have a lot more respect for Geoff for being so patient with him.
If that’s annoying you’ll never do a deal then. You need to know how to talk with your customers and deal because look in the end he got the deal done and it’s always nice to have a talk and learning new stuff. Your annoying because you probably never made a deal in you lifetime 😂😂😂
He owns more about sports cards then Jeoff!
for real, dude was pissing me off, such an idiot.
I don't thing annoying is fair. It did drag a bit, and he was milking Geoff for knowledge. Time is money though. Sometimes you have to move on.
"But hasn't the modern market gone down?"
Dude said that at least 10 times lol
I will say your patience is OUTSTANDING with that guy with the Cobb / Ruth trade. That guy was just DRAGGING it on…
That’s what happens when you have young kids 😂
He was milking it. he's lucky Jeff is a good man.
💯 🤯
@@RochesterCoinsIGmust be nice kids parents give them $ for cards
Guarantee his opinion changed on both tlaw and Jordan now that he has them. Buy low sell high I get but very annoying
Now we know how that guy got all those vintage cards.
He holds them hostage until he can wear them down, like a timeshare salesman 😅
Geoff, my respect for you has gained ten fold. That guy was the most annoying person I've ever seen do a deal in any video. kudos to you man for dealing with him, I would lose my mind
Who
I had to get up, go outside and get a breath of fresh air after watching this. You have my sympathy
If this is how this guys trades, how in the world did he amass ANY cards. Just insanity.
Hes rich asf
His whole spiel about what he thinks he could get cash for the cards and how vintage is less risky was so ridiculous.. you go off of comps, not your perception of what you “think” someone would give you cash for them. All of the perceived risk/reward is already baked into the price. It’s not an additional factor that you get a discount for. What a joker.
He’s a dick,
I’ve tried to make a trade/sales with him in person, and it was horrible. He overprices a lot
dude is a clown always has been
Never make deals with someone who spends 15mins telling you why no one should want your cards, while he's trying to GET your cards. People like this need to exit the hobby. Total bozo.
Well he F'ed up because 1000's of people will watch this video and avoid him at shows.
Your best video yet because it was so raw seeing how challenging it can be to negotiate with some people. Excellent video, very real!!!
I would’ve just walked away. That dude with the vintage gave me a headache.
Factz, I would have been like I’m good. Especially with me being a woman he would have definitely tried to get over on me..(the Vintage dealer)
Guy with glasses is trading away his first unborn child with the way he was negotiating
Man Geoff, idc what anybody says or thinks, I have learned more about sports cards and all the nuances involved from you than anybody else in this industry! You also have a way of motivating me to make purchases that I wouldn’t have otherwise. And almost every one has skyrocketed in value, just like you said! Thanks for everything you do man!
100% agree. He puts himself out there. Allows himself to be vulnerable. He throughly enjoys it. Great for the hobby.
5:07-20:34 felt like i was watching the longest movie of all time
I took plenty of mental notes on how to deal in negotiations. Thank you again Geoff and SCI Team!
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Buddy is asking questions he knows the answers too lol
Yeah, the dude acting like he doesn't know modern yet knows every detail about it lol
yup, he was only asking to use the answers Geoff provided as leverage to lower modern cards costs.
@@brockman562that snd to use geoffs platform to promote vintage to possibly help his market.
Your editor COOKED with that QR code transition 🤣
You two had a solid conversation. Thats hows its done. Card industry is very interesting and lucritive.
10/10 Geoff with your patience with Mr. Interruption (Cobb/Ruth guy)
That guy was awful. I would have walked away 10 seconds in while he's talking.
That one kid with the glasses is super smart, never seen someone so calculated and less motivated, definitely should have hired him to work for you
last guy had the best collection of unusual cards, letters, and IDs.
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nice video Jeff. Boy that last guy was grinding you on the modern cards and prices. But good comeback about putting the cash in.
geoff's patience and grace is amazing. same deal couldve been done in 45 seconds without the other guy repeatedly trashing on jordan/modern
Gawd that guy is equivalent to a wet blanket on a cold night
The nerve of that guy to try to talk down a beautiful gold jordan auto as if it was somehow some risky modern piece and the ridiculousness of using assumptions of what HE thought the next comp would be.. boy that was awful.
Yeah no kiddin! It's like bro, I don't need your opinion or perspective on anything, you wanna trade or not??! Guy is weird.
Awesome trade, though that Luka and Shohei, oh my gosh, how tough to give those up given what each are producing in their respective sports!
That Rock and Roll stuff was unique.
It was awesome. Probably the coolest thing for me personally outside of the Ruth/Gehrig auto.
Yeah I would have walked offf that guy kept trying to downgrade your cards bro
Ikr lol 😂 that guy was asshole
yup. and he was using 'down market' and 'risk' as leverage to drive down price of modern cards
Congrats on the great Vintage pickups. Love seeing you grab more vintage
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That guy would not stop yapping 😂😂
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Never would have traded those vintage cards for those.
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OMG you are a better man than me. Your patience was off the charts. Great card pick ups. I would have never got that last deal done. Lol😂
In my opinion you should have kept the shohei
your right but the babe auto was nice
Ohtani cards will 📈 if he wins a World Series with Dodgers! Went up a bit after Japan won WBC.
I would have kept the Ohtani it’s a blue rookie auto ohtani and its a blue parallel it probably went up now.
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Sheeeshhh!! Man I would of walked away from this Kid🙃 Great Pick up👍🔥💪🔥👍
legend has it that trade guy still talking🤐
That guy at the end was sharp. He hustled you good.
I'd rather have the MJ and I'd pay cash for it vs the Ruth or Cobb dude is crazy
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God damn Geoff, your patience is key. I he really got what he want and I respect that but I might’ve left by like 20 mins of that convo
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Man I love watching your videos! I wish I could get out to one of these shows but it’s so hard in my area upstate NY, plus I’m physically disabled so getting anywhere is really hard. I’d love to look around at these shows though
I had a hard time watching/listening to the guy with the vintage let alone sit down with him. Talking crap about newer stuff while over hyping his vintage stuff. Smh. All while trying to pick up the “modern” stuff. I woulda walked away in minutes.
Writing down what you want to remember, is a sign of intelligence.
(Love the KISS mash up, seen them 6 times throughout the years)
Happy New Year!
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Anyone Notice the Tiger Auto Nike Swoosh GU (priced $6500) at the 13:36 mark. Thats a sick card too!
That was nice.
I would have walked away from the vintage collector a few times. Dude is not the kind of guy I would want to do business with. props to you Geoff, displaying patience and the Gator standard everywhere you go!
That young man was very smart and very silly all at the same time. He knew his stuff than traded away :headshake: You def won Jeff
I was hurting watching that mj and tlaw deal that took so long 😂💀
Trevor Lawrence heard about this trade and proceeds to break his ankle, gotta love it LOL
I love how Geoff says Lawrence cards are up and he had to look at his own app to see they are down 30% even before the injury. Why I don't believe a word he says. Notice he didn't show comps on the Jordan 86 Fleer and just made up some numbers.
@@carolinatarheels7903 value is truly in the eye of the beholder, and it's a risk like many things.... honestly crazy that a printed piece of paper could hold so much value LOL but ya do your research before so you at least know what you're getting in to
Wow bro, that young man with the Vintage was a BEAST!! Mad credit to him for not only knowing vintage, but also knowing Trevor Lawrence was down 40% although he's playing well
That guy didn't wanna trade his Ruth and Cobb. The entire time he's trying to talk himself out of it but gives in because he's dealing with an influencer on camera. Why he'd be willing to move either of those for a Trevor Lawrence is beyond me. That card won't hold it's value long term.
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I don’t think the dude was that bad. Spent a lot of time just wanting to talk about specific questions about the market. Challenged certain things Geoff had gotten wrong which ended up making the trade more fair at the end of the day.
same! That was a super interesting convo to listen to. Kid seemed genuinely curious
Love the kid with glasses trade you could tell Geoff was aggravated but at the end he came around to the kid and it was a fun good trade man love it !!!!!
Owning a Shohei Ohtani singed RC is my grail card. 👍💯
I got really lucky and pulled an optic ohtani rated rookie..wish it was licensed, but it's still a really cool card to own.
@@ryanbauer8317 Nice pull 👍 I have the Pink Prizm batting RC.
That dude was infuriating
I understand many folks are not going to enjoy the Vintage trader. However, he took advantage of the knowledge in front of him. He showed his competency. I enjoyed the discomfort. Well done by both parties.
20:12 If this was a poker game, that guy just said “All In” and stared at the table
man i'd be trading all my newer crap for vintage any time i could make those trades happen. Reading articles on manufactured scarcity vs actual rarity is good and interesting.
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That guys stuff with the Handwritten lyrics of Kasmir is unreal. Mantle Taj Mahal casino card.... Just neat.
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Vintage guy is a genius that y’all don’t even realize what he did. He basically got that T Law for free lol. I think he isn’t being honest when he says that he only deals in vintage now. If that were true he wouldn’t be making that deal in the first place. I think what his genius strategy is, is to find people who want to get into vintage who have high end modern and use his vintage collection for leverage. Anyone who is tired of the up and downs of modern and wanting to get into high end vintage are in the honeymoon phase so they pay up just to get into it and get some stability and cool cards. So I think he talks up the aspects of vintage then down the aspects of modern and he comes up with an extra 15-20% on the deal and cash no less.
That's why I might not have traded with him. He was bashing the Jordan card so much, it's like okay don't trade for it then if you think it's so bad.
It’s July and this deal is still going
"I feel like I'm gonna go". 😂
🙂 loved the qr code edit
Best negotiation I’ve seen on this channel 👍
I sold all of my football cards the day I saw Brock Purdy cards selling more than a 15+ year Tom Brady career, because Brock had a good half season…… and I’m from SF and a49er fan lol
That’s when I knew the entire football card game is a game of Hot Potato.
Time will tell if all these “$20k” cards drop by 99%.
The Babe Ruth’s were pretty nice
Same for all sports
I think you won. Simply said, it brings you a slam dunk end of game winner, and or a walk off home run grand slam winner type of joy, thst you can't affix a monetary value too
Thanks for sharing another one of your adventures, that brings me, what your trade brought you. Well Done!
That guy with the glasses with getting on my nerves. I would have said "this is what I'm willing to do; you can think about it and let me know."
Happy holidays to anyone reading this❤....that dude would be tough for me to personally deal with (cut auto guy)..seemed he was more into clout chasing..great video, the cards ive been able to see by watching your channel is 🤯...🙏🙏🎯
Geoff, what’s with Market Movers having bad comps? Why does Market Movers not consider Robert Edward or Mile High to be accurate comps? Or if they do, why not include them to improve the accuracy of your product?
That guy was dragging it on but he was picking his brain. Cant say I wouldn't have done the same. Knowledge is valuable!
I would rather have the 2 vintage cards (ruth and cobb) than the 2 moderns and 5k cash. Good move!
FAST FOWARD with this guy RUN GEOFF RUN
I was there at the Philly card show
In my opinion, The collector was right about his cards (Vintage) would sell better and be worth more be in the long run , there is less of it. The market is so saturated with all these new ultra modern cards coming, refractors pink, blue yellow , gold turquoise I mean dam how many color variations can you get ??? He looked up his own cards on mile high . Like geoff said , those cards are for his personal collection if anything the value of those cards will not drop significantly unlike like the new cards makes you wonder if the player will go " COLD" or " HOT ". Anyway just my thought and opinion on these video. That's all folks
Cudos to you for being patient with that guy
You lost me for most of the video lol😂Brad to forward thru the negotiation wow lol😂 I got back in to see the deal close.
Geoff pretty much paid $5k cash for the $5.5k card. And then traded Jordan and T-Law for his other card.
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Pirates jersey vintage dealer might be the worst dealer to ever deal with. His 29k bronko last sold for 21k and it was the highest sale ever and always says his copies are better.
Can't believe Geoff gave away that Ohtani Card... It was even PSA 10
the things you have too put up with to get a deal done. goodness gracious
I go through the same thing online on Reddit. I've had deals halted over $2 bucks.
people really don't want to sell their cards. damn @@mikea5205
The credit cards, ID cards etc were interesting!
That guy needs to do his hw before he starts trading like this. Props to you for having patience to educating while trying to work him a little.
Awesome Geoff
13:00 dude took a min just to say he wants 6k cash wild so boring
My god the dude in the black hoodie drove me nuts .. Jesus
I’m glad Geoff talked about all that cool video
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I think I’ve tapped to skip like 40 times and that guy is still talking….
The Jordan card was really cool
Have to chuckle at the idiots putting notes on the card saying ".5 AWAY FROM A 9!!"
Bro that guy was so annoying mad respect for not punching him lol
You should have made that kid with the Cobb/Ruth put cash into the deal for all your lost time and advise.
Yikes on that T law risk. Didn’t help it’s value that he played bad towards the end.
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Had to go outside and smoke a cigarette after watching that trade with the vintage guy and I don’t even smoke 😮💨
People hating on the guy for taking his time in a trade that could cost both parties thousands of dollars. I think more than anything you should learn from how diligent that guy was, and I think both parties came out with a win. You don’t amass a collection like that dude had by trying without being diligent. A lot of us know a lot about the modern stuff because we submerge ourselves in it, you can tell when stopped doing modern and focused on his vintage collection he gotta got detached from it and why he had to take his time and respect for asking the questions he did. Great video
If this guy didnt repeat himself and ask the same questions in multiple ways......this 25 minute video could have been 4-5 minutes. Great patience. I would have shook hands and walked away
Ty Cobb Green Port is hot! True SSP!
Geoff paid an extra $500 literally to get that guy to leave
That trade was mind numbing. I would've been done talking to dude after 10 minutes
That Jordan is Crazy🔥🔥🔥
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“Fast forward 10 seconds” 🥵
Vintage collector is the type of guy that rips off kids for their cards
100%
I hate how he says I can get more cash for mine than you can for yours… The MJ just sold for 10.6 on the same site that the vintage guy is gonna sell his cards on!
I see that guy at shows all the time and he sucks to deal with! Always has an attitude and always fights every comp. He will always burn someone who is trying to sell to him.
A legit trading strategy is to talk until you wear down and confuse the seller. It hurts for repeat deals but its a valid strategy
You did well nice pickups😊