Stefan landing checklist: - Gear down... check - Flaps extended... check - Spoilers... check - Kiss the grass... check - Leave glider next to the trailer because I don't want to walk to much and because yes... check Nice vid as always!! 👍🏼💪🏼👏🏼
Wonder what your views are on the 'new' IGC handicaps? - to me some handicaps see very odd i.e. GF304 has lower handicap than it's predecessor Mosqiuto, SZD55 seems way underhandicapped. I think IGC has just increased the cost of getting a competitive glider to win in this class - the days of Cirri, Libelles and ASW15's winning are over I think. I do not think this move will help grow the sport....in fact I think IGC and most national soaring associations due to the nature of who runs them work only for the interests of a certain section of society who glide and the manufacturers. I would like to see an 'international competitive class where 'money' is not a barrier to entry - club class used to be the closest to it, after all the 'rich boys' killed off World Class, but not now I think -they have effectively doubled the cost of getting a winning ship..
I agree that the handicaps are not perfect and the price for a winning glider is more expensive. On the other hand Std. Libelle, Cirrus and ASW15 are no longer gliders owned by clubs. For me it looks like the handicap factors are created around the LS4, which was build about 1000 times and is often owned by clubs. It is hard to make a decision if flapped gliders should be allowed or not. I love flying faster glider and flapped gliders, that´s why I enjoy the LS3. E.g. the handicap factor of the LS7 is really really good, compared to Discus and ASW24.
@@SteFly I think that argument is slightly irrelevant - they where never really gliders owned by clubs for the last 20-30 years, but where at least 'affordable' to the individual (and remember a lot of countries are not like Germany with its many well equipped clubs with the latest gliders -i.e. in the UK the best club glider you'll get to fly if your lucky is a Discus - in many its the Astir). The handicap system was designed by some boffin on 'theoretical performance- who has little, to no common sense, or appears to have looked at 50 years data on 'real life' competitive gliding - some of the handicaps are way off - probably why G Dale does not fly a 24 any more as it is handicapped much more harshly than the 55, 7 or Discus. A good 55 with the profile sorted will outperform them all yet has the lowest handicap - that or the 7 with neo winglets would by my choice, or maybe a GF304 . I notice a lot of the UK guys who fly the club class are buying up 7's. But now instead of a glider that cost 10-15000 euros - I think you will need one costing at least double that to win. The only thing FAI IGC has done is to make competitive gliding more expensive and less accessible to many in the world. World Class was a good concept (perhaps the wrong glider?) but the manufacturers and 'rich boys' with their snobbish attitude to it, who control competitive gliding killed it off -what is it replaced with - another expensive class where you need a 100,000+ euro sailplane................. Sailing is a successful accessible growing sport because as well as the high cost classes with the latest equipment, their are low cost classes for those that are competitive - gliding needs to take a look at where its going - unfortunately most of its 'leaders' are out of touch and the sport is losing people every year in most countries as it becomes less accessible to many.
@@soaruk3697 A good, competitive Std. Libelle did cost also about 20k € with all the modifications done. Flat canopy, winglets, fairings,... It was never and it will not be cheap in the future. The performance of the gliders got better and we don´t fly K8 or K6 in club class competitions. And for the average pilots they still can participate with a Std. Cirrus. BTW I won the last German nationals with a Std. Cirrus WL (worth 12k €) and the new handicap list. There is so much hype about the performance of the gliders... sometimes the pilots forget that the pilot experience is the most important factor. I can not change anything about the handicap list, the easiest option is to accept it. In our club we have a Discus and in my former club we had a DG300. Both gliders which are nice to fly for club class competitions (for qualification and nationals). In my opinion this is also important that young pilots should not need to buy a glider for their first comps, just borrow them from the club and get a taste of the virus.
@@SteFly There are more people than young pilots who may want to compete , but who do not have the required wonga i.e. the average working man/woman. If IGC do not address gliding for the 'average wage earner' gliding will for ever remain an elitist sport that will eventually disappear - look how numbers have declined over the last 20-30 years........at national level you can probably win in an older glider -the Cirrus was always underhandicaped anyway, even under the old system, (why it won so much) but international? With the attitudes you have nothing will change................., maybe you should apply for a position with IGC?
Stefan, you may wish to change your cockpit cushions (I spotted at the 1:29 mark) for energy-absorpent ones e.g. Confor foam. Nice video and fantastic cloudbases, but the sun will be coming back to the southern hemisphere soon.
Bin gestern das erste mal Wölbklappe geflogen in einer ASW20 und es war absolut klasse 😁 Deine Videos sind ne super Motivation weiterzulernen und auch bald mal Überland zu gehen 😊
Great video - thank you, Stefan! If you could compare your old glider Liebelle, the modern ASG-29 and this LS-3 - which one do you like more? Or probably in others words - which glider suits better for which task or weather conditions? Thank you.
LS-3 for club class and ASG29 for long distance flying. The LS-3 gives me much more feedback of the moving air around me, which makes it easier to fly.
@@garyblake9665 you sure about the no extra drag part? Everything you put on the outside of the plane adds extra drag, even winglets. They are to make slow flying characteristics better, so you can climb better. Also general handling. But they definitely got drag.
BootlegMuffin Gliders are like boats. You can start out fairly in expensively or spend all you’ve got (and more) I bought mine for about 20k after the previous owner had died (it was already on the field). Then upgraded with transponder, ADS-b, FLARM, LXNAV S80, etc Here’s a link to the most popular glider for sale ads in the US. wingsandwheels.com/classifieds/gliders.html?marketplace_status=published
You can legely Start with 14 in most of the EU. I would recoment joining a "Flying Club", because most of the Trainers do it unsalaried. So it is much cheaper then a flight school (the downside is the training will take longer in a Club) If you dont want to wait untill you are 14, you can always go to an airfield and ask the Club or flight school for a test flight. You can also get into flight sims, like x plane 11 or FS 2020. I hope that helped you a little. Of course always check, If your country does something diffrent. 👍
Holy crap 9000 feet. And I thought our 4000 feet (1200m) cloud base today was good :O Nice music BTW, I've used that one a few times it's great cos it's not annoying, and suits gliding so well. Nice and relaxed, but not too boring! Keep it up!
@@PureGlide think they've been getting up to 10,000ft this summer in some places in the UK in thermals- I would have thought you'd be able to get a tad higher in Germany if you were really trying to..............
I am curious, I have seen that Bruno Vassel does almost every flight with oxygen, did you ever use oxygen too or does it only make sense for airfields at high altitude ?
@Stephan Do you prefer the LS3 over the LS3A? Difference being no aileron counter weights and split ail/flap surfaces, lighter wing. Seriously looking for this glider..thx
Fantastic video as always Stefan! I always wish they were longer and that you could let us know how the comps are going for you on these videos but I do understand there's a lot going on so no disrespect is ever intended, I just love watching you fly ha ha! All the best over there bud from an Aussie Aviation lover.
I think your LS3 is better than the later LS3a with separate ailerons and flaps. I know they become the LS Blei to stop the flutter, but they flew exceptionally well.
Easier if your already a power pilot of course. Learning to fly the tow is probably the hardest part to master Club situations may take longer if instructor and glider time and available days are limited , a commercial operator can probably get you certified faster (though probably will cost more) DM me if you want more specific info (include your location and experience)
Stefan landing checklist:
- Gear down... check
- Flaps extended... check
- Spoilers... check
- Kiss the grass... check
- Leave glider next to the trailer because I don't want to walk to much and because yes... check
Nice vid as always!! 👍🏼💪🏼👏🏼
One day later I forgot the first point in your checklist and the last point was also not possible ;/
@@SteFly what happened to the audio on touch down in this particular video? I saw the other one lol
Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 looks amazing! Nearly believed this is a real footage
Ummmm you know this isn't actually MSF2020 right...?
Clearly it's X-Plane with reshade
@@tux0beliver you know he's trolling you right? 😉
Sdc.
@@garyblake9665 hah yeah I just figured that out. I mean it's pretty obvious it's actually X-Plane like in my original post
@Elusive Anomaly k
Wonder what your views are on the 'new' IGC handicaps? - to me some handicaps see very odd i.e. GF304 has lower handicap than it's predecessor Mosqiuto, SZD55 seems way underhandicapped. I think IGC has just increased the cost of getting a competitive glider to win in this class - the days of Cirri, Libelles and ASW15's winning are over I think. I do not think this move will help grow the sport....in fact I think IGC and most national soaring associations due to the nature of who runs them work only for the interests of a certain section of society who glide and the manufacturers. I would like to see an 'international competitive class where 'money' is not a barrier to entry - club class used to be the closest to it, after all the 'rich boys' killed off World Class, but not now I think -they have effectively doubled the cost of getting a winning ship..
It seems to be a perennial problem in a whole lot of sports - Its subtly done but totally insideous.
I agree that the handicaps are not perfect and the price for a winning glider is more expensive. On the other hand Std. Libelle, Cirrus and ASW15 are no longer gliders owned by clubs. For me it looks like the handicap factors are created around the LS4, which was build about 1000 times and is often owned by clubs. It is hard to make a decision if flapped gliders should be allowed or not. I love flying faster glider and flapped gliders, that´s why I enjoy the LS3. E.g. the handicap factor of the LS7 is really really good, compared to Discus and ASW24.
@@SteFly I think that argument is slightly irrelevant - they where never really gliders owned by clubs for the last 20-30 years, but where at least 'affordable' to the individual (and remember a lot of countries are not like Germany with its many well equipped clubs with the latest gliders -i.e. in the UK the best club glider you'll get to fly if your lucky is a Discus - in many its the Astir). The handicap system was designed by some boffin on 'theoretical performance- who has little, to no common sense, or appears to have looked at 50 years data on 'real life' competitive gliding - some of the handicaps are way off - probably why G Dale does not fly a 24 any more as it is handicapped much more harshly than the 55, 7 or Discus. A good 55 with the profile sorted will outperform them all yet has the lowest handicap - that or the 7 with neo winglets would by my choice, or maybe a GF304 . I notice a lot of the UK guys who fly the club class are buying up 7's. But now instead of a glider that cost 10-15000 euros - I think you will need one costing at least double that to win. The only thing FAI IGC has done is to make competitive gliding more expensive and less accessible to many in the world. World Class was a good concept (perhaps the wrong glider?) but the manufacturers and 'rich boys' with their snobbish attitude to it, who control competitive gliding killed it off -what is it replaced with - another expensive class where you need a 100,000+ euro sailplane................. Sailing is a successful accessible growing sport because as well as the high cost classes with the latest equipment, their are low cost classes for those that are competitive - gliding needs to take a look at where its going - unfortunately most of its 'leaders' are out of touch and the sport is losing people every year in most countries as it becomes less accessible to many.
@@soaruk3697 A good, competitive Std. Libelle did cost also about 20k € with all the modifications done. Flat canopy, winglets, fairings,... It was never and it will not be cheap in the future. The performance of the gliders got better and we don´t fly K8 or K6 in club class competitions. And for the average pilots they still can participate with a Std. Cirrus. BTW I won the last German nationals with a Std. Cirrus WL (worth 12k €) and the new handicap list. There is so much hype about the performance of the gliders... sometimes the pilots forget that the pilot experience is the most important factor. I can not change anything about the handicap list, the easiest option is to accept it. In our club we have a Discus and in my former club we had a DG300. Both gliders which are nice to fly for club class competitions (for qualification and nationals). In my opinion this is also important that young pilots should not need to buy a glider for their first comps, just borrow them from the club and get a taste of the virus.
@@SteFly There are more people than young pilots who may want to compete , but who do not have the required wonga i.e. the average working man/woman. If IGC do not address gliding for the 'average wage earner' gliding will for ever remain an elitist sport that will eventually disappear - look how numbers have declined over the last 20-30 years........at national level you can probably win in an older glider -the Cirrus was always underhandicaped anyway, even under the old system, (why it won so much) but international? With the attitudes you have nothing will change................., maybe you should apply for a position with IGC?
Love your videos. Can you do a video describing what info boxes you use on XCSoar for cruise, thermal and final glide?
Stefan, you may wish to change your cockpit cushions (I spotted at the 1:29 mark) for energy-absorpent ones e.g. Confor foam. Nice video and fantastic cloudbases, but the sun will be coming back to the southern hemisphere soon.
Bin gestern das erste mal Wölbklappe geflogen in einer ASW20 und es war absolut klasse 😁 Deine Videos sind ne super Motivation weiterzulernen und auch bald mal Überland zu gehen 😊
Der Spaßhebel :D
Einfach genial! Glocke ist aktiv, und jedes Video wird natürlich direkt angeschaut.
Was there in Landau with my glider club 2 weeks ago. Nice flight, congrats!
Great video - thank you, Stefan! If you could compare your old glider Liebelle, the modern ASG-29 and this LS-3 - which one do you like more? Or probably in others words - which glider suits better for which task or weather conditions? Thank you.
LS-3 for club class and ASG29 for long distance flying. The LS-3 gives me much more feedback of the moving air around me, which makes it easier to fly.
Love my LS3, though I have a tough time keeping up with my ASW27 friends.
Curious about the winglets. How much difference to they make?
They add about 4 foot of wing without any extra drag
@@garyblake9665 you sure about the no extra drag part? Everything you put on the outside of the plane adds extra drag, even winglets. They are to make slow flying characteristics better, so you can climb better. Also general handling. But they definitely got drag.
where and how did you buy your LS3? i want to get into gliders one day. im just so curious about the price of one
Gary Blake
No extra INDUCED drag, but some additional parasite drag for sure. Wondering about how much quantifiable difference it makes in climbs
BootlegMuffin
Gliders are like boats. You can start out fairly in expensively or spend all you’ve got (and more)
I bought mine for about 20k after the previous owner had died (it was already on the field). Then upgraded with transponder, ADS-b, FLARM, LXNAV S80, etc
Here’s a link to the most popular glider for sale ads in the US. wingsandwheels.com/classifieds/gliders.html?marketplace_status=published
I may be a bit strange but, I kind of like that vario 😁
I would love a panel inset so the instruments could actually be read by the viewer. Love the straight ahead climb.
LS-Blei. Lol. I love that glider.
Nice day, great flight, awesome video!
Very different from learning to fly in the 70's. Much slower planes but tougher and with much more effective airbrakes, cheap winch launches too!
I'm 12 and i want to join a glider club and learn gliding because i want to start my flight hours so i can be an airline pilot at 18-21 age
You can legely Start with 14 in most of the EU. I would recoment joining a "Flying Club", because most of the Trainers do it unsalaried. So it is much cheaper then a flight school (the downside is the training will take longer in a Club)
If you dont want to wait untill you are 14, you can always go to an airfield and ask the Club or flight school for a test flight.
You can also get into flight sims, like x plane 11 or FS 2020.
I hope that helped you a little. Of course always check, If your country does something diffrent. 👍
What an amazing rush!
Holy crap 9000 feet. And I thought our 4000 feet (1200m) cloud base today was good :O Nice music BTW, I've used that one a few times it's great cos it's not annoying, and suits gliding so well. Nice and relaxed, but not too boring! Keep it up!
been to 10,500 in the UK in thermals............... back in the early 90's
Soar UK I like how you have to specify the decade :)
@@PureGlide think they've been getting up to 10,000ft this summer in some places in the UK in thermals- I would have thought you'd be able to get a tad higher in Germany if you were really trying to..............
Come to California. Bases at 14,000 + (airport 2900’)
Hey Stefan, nice LS3 "commercial". Have you noticed any differences between LS3 with / without winglets?
I am curious, I have seen that Bruno Vassel does almost every flight with oxygen, did you ever use oxygen too or does it only make sense for airfields at high altitude ?
Wie überlebst du das mit dem Vario?😂
Naja immernoch besser als unser Sirene Head Vario
Wenn die Alternative nicht-fliegen ist, überlebt man das ;)
My ears go boom when you landed
Es wird immer besser🤣wieder schönes Video
Bravo Stefan! First like, after watching! Greetings from Croatia!
The landing Jesus 😂😂😂
@Stephan Do you prefer the LS3 over the LS3A? Difference being no aileron counter weights and split ail/flap surfaces, lighter wing. Seriously looking for this glider..thx
Fantastic video as always Stefan! I always wish they were longer and that you could let us know how the comps are going for you on these videos but I do understand there's a lot going on so no disrespect is ever intended, I just love watching you fly ha ha! All the best over there bud from an Aussie Aviation lover.
Thank you for the input.
How do they take off? Are they pulled by something?
Thanks for the video
beautiful video, thanks for sharing!, where did you source the winglets?, looking at some for my LS3, thanks!
www.guentert-kohlmetz.de/g-k-entwicklungen/ls-3-winglets-fuer-alle-ls3-baureihen
This is the only source... but the price is very high in my opinion.
Hello Stefan, I'm looking for a glider for me can you recommend one ?!
Love the vids🤙🏼
Thanks man!
I think your LS3 is better than the later LS3a with separate ailerons and flaps. I know they become the LS Blei to stop the flutter, but they flew exceptionally well.
If you have a good one-man rigger the blei (refers to the flaperons’ lead counterweights) isn’t a problem. Love my LS3
I´ve heard the same. Currently looking to by a LS3... not so easy these times.
Love ur videos bro
hello do you think that using condor2 as a training could be useful?
What is the black handled lever for? You were using it when turning. The blue handle is air brakes, yes?
That’s the flaps. Full forward is -7° (high speed cruise) full back is +10° (takeoff, landing, and thermalling)
Danke Schon.
What do you use as IGC certified logger for declared tasks? You declare them from XCSoar on Android?
Therefor I use a LXNav Nano logger
big fan here from brazil
in this video i've heart air stream sound for first time. amazing! good luck friend!
Love from india. I love your videos
Looks like you won the day, congrats! Were you team flying with SN?
What 's the smartphone you use for NAV?
Samsung Galaxy S20
wow, what fun
Woo its good 👍
Awesome
Nice vario 🤣
How long does it take to learn to fly a glider?
If you talk about the flying only and not the theory, then for me it took two months and about 50 takeoffs to go solo
It took me 2 years to get the license in a German club. But I startet with the age of 14 and you can get the license with 16 years
Easier if your already a power pilot of course.
Learning to fly the tow is probably the hardest part to master
Club situations may take longer if instructor and glider time and available days are limited , a commercial operator can probably get you certified faster (though probably will cost more)
DM me if you want more specific info (include your location and experience)
@Stefan why do so many glider pilots prefer wearing amber color tinted sunglasses 🕶 ?
So much vibration on landing, the plane will fall apart... :D
Without landing gear it was even worse :D
You have to remember they were the best in their days .
How many Kph for the slowest flying without engine ?
70 - 80 kph?
AHHHHHHHHHH WARUM PIEPT DEIN VARIO NICHT😭😭
От этого завывания может крыша поехать
Nice🔥
Sweet
schöner flieger. aber so viel besser ist das vario nun auch nicht :D
Love from india🇮🇳
Some people live life, while we watch them on youtube.
You're making me more depressed then I already am
It's worse when you have been a glider pilot in the past but can no longer fly because of access/family/money/time. I wish I could fly again.
so how did you do?
1st place
Wi häf tu wörk ä littl bit on auer pronaunsiäschion 😂😂😂
dear santa
Make it happen. Don’t wait for “Santa”
In the USA. Go to ssa.org (soaring society of America)
click on FAST (Fly A sailplane Today)
If you're in Australia visit glidingaustralia.org/new-to-gliding/about-gliding find a club near you and try it for yourself
6:53 headphone wearers
Put the volume to max.....
Don’t like the vario!
Robert Knight no kidding. I prefer the beeper !