You’re welcome and I’m glad there’s at least two of us doing this now! I’ve had some real skate fit issues over the years and had both of my hips replaced due to arthritis before 41 years old (Thanks hockey). Let’s keep in touch. It sounds like we may have info that we can bounce off each other. I’m going to be doing a BladeTech steel review soon. Should be here by the end of next week. I’ll be coming at it from the ankle of joint health instead of performance. Oh and your Warrior LX Pro video was good, but I was surprised by your results. I might have to give it a second chance.
@@mongillohockey I know the arthritis, I have rheumatoid arthritis and it’s been really challenging. So I feel you. I’m definitely interested in those runners so I look forward to your vid. Yah I’ve hated warrior sticks so I was just as surprised but looks like I’ll be rocking this stick now! Definitely stay in touch and look forward to what you have planned
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews yes, I think I remember you mentioning you having to deal with arthritis too. Super lame, but that’s how it goes. And yes. I’m really curious about the BladeTech. I got the DLC version. I’m currently using a pair of bootleg DLC Step Steel from the Leafs equipment room so it should be a good comparison since I had them both profiled the same. And once my AS4 pro wears out, I’ll take another look at the LX and the FT4. My only two complaints about the AS4 pro is the lively blade (can sometimes make it a little challenging to receive hard passes) and the P29 curve. It’s not quite as tall as a regular P92 or W03, so pucks sometimes skip over the top. But that’s minor stuff.
This I great, glad to see your are following the path of beer league but with genuine reviews, I enjoy watching both of your guys content it is really helpful so please keep up the great reviews :)
Great video, thank you very much. I played supreme 2s pro 9.5 D, but HyperLite 8.5 fit 3 suited me, measured all fits from 8 fit 2 to 9.5 fit 2, thanks again for the good recording
Yeah I made the transition a few months ago to the hyperlites. I’m so happy. I’ve used supremes ever since they came out and I wish I had switched sooner!!
Nice review. I like your CCM custom skate had ordered my first ever pair of custom skates….Bauer Hyperlites. Pure hockey measured me at a fit 3 8 and 8.25 so we went with the 8.25 for both feet. Changed the coloring to a stealth black and grey. After waiting almost two months the skates arrive. Go pick them up and immediately the right felt perfect and the left felt like they used a fit 2 toe cap. You could tell visually looking at it that it was narrower. Measuring it later confirmed it. I was told to skate in them and see how it went. After two skates and killing my pinky toe I went back to pure hockey. Then I noticed the toe can issue on both skates. The toe cap is not set in nice and tight like the standard skates you buy off the shelf. These $1300 skates look like I was given an 8 boot and the toe cap was pulled forward to crest the .25 spacing. Not a happy camper with Bauer. I am now waiting to see what happens. The skates were shipped back to Bauer. I told pure hockey that if Bauer cannot fix it properly I do not want these skates. Very disappointed with Bauer in the fit and finish and sloppy work. They look amazing but upon a closer look these are not as advertised. Shame shame Bauer. First and last time I do custom of any brand.
Sorry you had that experience but I’m actually pretty confident you’ll be taken care of by both Bauer and Pure Hockey. Unfortunately this is why I usually tell people not to go with custom skates because it’s hard to get them correct the first time unless you have a really easy foot which in that case why would you be getting custom skates? Good luck and let me know how it goes.
I hope they will correct it. I went with customs just because I never had a pair and wanted the experience…thinking it would have been different. I wanted to have a skate that was mine/my style and different which is why I went custom too. I’m sure pure hockey will do the right thing. They are good guys and I hope Bauer sees their errors and corrects it. If not I’ll take a credit and get one off the shelf. 🤷🏻
@@Hockeygoaliedad so Bauer actually made me three pairs of skates. The vapors that didn’t fit and two pairs of ultrasonics. They fit better but not good enough. Toe cap issue. After all of that, I was refunded and pure got me into custom Ribcor 80Ks. Ccm got it right the first time. That said, I’m in the Hyperlite now since they fit so well. Im confident they’ll help you.
I just got a pair of these and have an average width but deep heel and had constant pain from my supreme skates. These Hyperlites are AMAZING!!!!! they fit great with zero pain, and the lacing system was a nice surprise, I didn’t think it would make a difference but lacing these up vs traditional circle eyelits was a massive difference. Love these skates
Hey there, glad you're digging the skates! Pretty significant comfort difference between these and the 2X Pro Vapors, not to mention your old Supremes.
Hey, very nice review! I feel your pain about your ankle bone being too far forward. I had the same issue and it got progressively worse to a point i couldnt skate properly due to pain so i got them punched out and the issue went completely away...No more gel pads and they seem to fit even more ''naturally''. Would highly recommend it!
Thanks for the comment! I’m not exactly sure what the problem would be withgiving a little bit more room for your ankles and skates. I wonder if there’s some sort of performance problem.
Thanks for these skate videos. If I'm struggling to fit widthwise in a FIT 3, I currently have an 8.5 fit3 vapor 3x that's been baked and my foot is still killing me ( was scanned as a 7.5 fit 3...). I could also use more ankle volume too. Eying a custom CCM ribcore at the moment. I would go with TRUE but I'm worried about durability. Do you think Custom is my only option if a Fit 3 isn't working out?
First off thanks for the comment. I’d recommend trying the Hyperlite as they do fit wider than the 3X to me. If that still doesn’t work for you then I am afraid that custom is your only option but I would avoid True for durability and my own opinion on how they fit. I’ve owned two pairs of the custom ones. Right now, ccm is making the best custom skate if you’re willing to spend the cash. I think you’re on the right track going for the Ribcor.
If you scan at a 7.5 you might be getting foot pain because you are skating in a skate a full size up. Get the 7.5 fit 3. if they fit length wise get them baked and stretched/punched
Your analysis of this skate is spot on in this video. Now that you have owned both the ultrasonic and the hyperlite - which skate model between the two provides more forward flex - in your own opinion ? I own the hyperlite now and do notice the newly engineered injected eyelets to help but was wondering if an ultrasonic would provide even more forward flex than the hyperlite?…. I’d like a little more than what I am getting on the hyperlite and am not willing to drop eyelets….
Hey man, thanks for the comment! So I think boot fit might be the first thing to look at. If you fit an Ultrasonic, that skate will give you more power, forward flex and foot wrap than any non-custom Vapor skate. What you should know, is the forefoot width and toe cap volume of the ultrasonic is less than the Hyperlite. If you have a wider higher volume foot like me, I’d be hesitant to go to the ultrasonic at all. However if they fit I believe they do a better job giving you what you’re looking for. The hyper light do fit well but they’re not nearly as stable from a lateral standpoint. When other skate that I’ve had a lot of experience with that you might consider is the CCM Ribcor. It’s the most underappreciated skate with the best forward flex on the market. The other two models of CCM skate are too stiff for me, but the Ribcor and ultrasonic are similar in stiffness with the ultrasonic being a little stiffer. Hope that helps!
@@mongillohockey thanks it does help. I was in a 70k before the hyperlites. Maybe should have tried the 100k. Do you think 100k would provide more forward flex than the new ultrasonics? Cool thing about CCM is 90 day no questions asked return policy…. I’ve never tried on the 100k only seen it in a pro shop and it seemed very stiff (boot squeeze test) unlike the 70/80k of the past. I may have to try 100k and or ultrasonics/mach1 to see if they can provide a bit more forward flex…
@@mattweber1128 So the new 100K is a bit different than the 80Ks of the past. You obviously know about the 100ks being a one piece boot, but it feels like a softer flexing FT4 pro Jetspeed now. I still think the Ultrasonic might give you a smoother forward flex as long as the toe cap doesn’t bother you. I actually feel like the Ultrasonic could be the fastest skates I’ve ever worn. That said, I can’t help feeling like all CCM skates are generally more comfortable than Bauer.
I have a narrow foot that fit the Bauer Vapor XXX perfectly. Do you think the fit1 in these would work? Also, what made you decide not to go with the carbon runner blade? Just curious. Thanks!
Hey there thanks for the comment. I do believe the fit one is probably a good starting point for you since it’s supposed to be no different than the original neurofitting skate but I’m guessing you’ll feel some sort of nuance difference. Regarding steel, the carbon just doesn’t have the same edge retention or glide as other steel.
I found your comment regarding ankle impingement on eyelets interesting. I have the same issue bilaterally but worst on the left. I’ve created a pair of Frankenstein socks - I used silicone seam sealer to fix bunga pads in place over the upper slope of my ankles. It’s flexible and a great adhesive - the pads stay where I need them. But that got me to thinking about heel slip, which is always an issue with my skates. So I applied a thin coat of silicone on both the inside and outside of the heel of the socks, emphasis on thin. It felt a little weird at first, kind of cold and slimy, but that goes away and what you’re left with is heel lock which is literally 100% without adding anything bulky or intrusive inside the boot. The lengths we go to, right?
I love the creativity! Lol Skates can be such a gong show. Unless you’re a pro who gets a one on one fitting and actual plaster cast of your foot made, not even custom skates can get it right a lot of the time and I’ve had eight pairs from all of the manufacturers to know that’s a fact. Glad it seems to be working for you.
@@craiglongden6984 Hi there, I should clarify. I fit a Nexus 2N when that skate was around but I never owned a pair. I can tell you that there’s hardly a comparison between the two skates from a performance standpoint. The Hyperlite are light and agile whereas the Nexus was more just a high volume skate for people who couldn’t fit anything else.
i recently got a pair of Hyperlite skates and they also have more volume than the models below them in the same vapor family that i had (vapor shift pro). the length sizing seems to be different too. i got a half size smaller and they fit almost exactly the same as my vapor shift pro skates did in a size 8 (i know not a big difference)
Hey man, good to hear from you. Yeah the sizing is strange. Whenever I do skate reviews I only talk about the sizing in relation to the top end models. Even one step down can vary slightly. In Bauer, I could probably wear a 7 3/4, but in CCM, I have to wear an 8.
I think the reason why the 2x pro skate had volume issues is because of the asymmetrical taper from the injected lacing system, I believer Bauer tweaked the lacing system on the current gen skates.. I currently have the hyperlite skates (8.5 Fit 2) coming from 2x pro skates and I have no issues with my hyperlites whatsoever, when I was trying to fit into 2x pro skates I had issues with lace bite and volume.
Yes, you could be right. Honestly, I wish Bauer would just stick to traditional eyelets. The wrap the foot better. But the Hyperlite is better. I just think it’s funny that Bauer said there’s no fit difference between them and the 2X pro! Lol. Oh well.
My son has owned two pairs of the Hyperlite skates over the past 12 months. Right at the 6 month of skating in both pairs the plastic molded eyelets have broken. He loves these skates and when the first pair broke we had to urgently purchase a replacement pair because where he was playing at the time didn’t have a repair shop. Luckily we have an amazing equipment repair shop close to where we live and they were able to take off the plastic eyelet and put in regular eyelets. His second pair broke this morning. Off to the repair shop again. We’ve had to invest way more money into these skates than anyone should have to. Skates were almost $1000 per pair and the repair is $100 for each side that needs repair. Buyer beware. If you are hard on your skates these might not be the right ones for you.
This is an rare, but not unheard of problem with injected eyelets. I think in general I'd tell the average person not to worry about it, but there is a reason why many pro guys get traditional eyelets when they do custom skates. Of course this is no consolation to you. Sorry that happened.
For those interested : I previously gamed the hyperlite in a 7.5 fit 2. I tried on the hyperlite 2 in the 7.5 and fit 2 and, the sizing is waay different (similar to what he referenced in the video between the 2x pro and the hyperlite). My lesson: don’t assume the previous size and fit translates 1:1 to the new version of these skates
Hey there, thanks for the really important comment! If I could get one skate fitting-related point across to everyone, it'd be to never assume one model of skate fits the same from one year to the next. I've been burned by that a couple times. I even have a recent subscriber who bought some Ribcors, received them, never tried time on and sent them back. He then got the chance to try another pair of Ribcors on and then bought them again. That seems to happen frequently.
can you explain further how the fit is different? Is the fore foot/ toe cap area wider? I bought a used pair of hyperlite skates 7.5 fit3 and I used a shoe boot width stretcher and heat gun, and was able to widen them enough to accommodate the bunion on the side of my big toe with out any rubbing issues which I was not able to do successfully with a pair of 3x pros
@@jeffgeckler9248 Hi there, so it appears that skate manufacturers are constantly trying to improve their skates, which is obvious information. That said, one thing they have a tendency to do, is tweak fit by reducing or increasing volume and or length. For example, I know two people who when from the Hyperlite to the Hyperlite 2 and noticed that the Hyperlite 2 feels shorter. Bauer will not confirm that. So to your question, it could be forefoot width as in the case between the Ultrasonic and the Mach or the length between this year’s and last year’s Hyperlite. I even noticed a tighter forefoot width on the FT6 pro compared to my FT4 Pro. Let me know if you have any follow ups.
Great videos, keep up the good work on your channel fantastic! Id like like to know if you would consider your fit on these "perfect" if there is such a thing. I was scanned for a 10 fit 1 and my toes do not touch my caps. When i try on a 9.5 fit 1 my toes touch the caps, could maybe wear them if performance was of utmost importance but I am pressing my luck with enough volume on 9.5 fit 1. Do your toes brush the end of the toe caps standing straight up and down and then pull off when you bend your knees/ie hockey skating position in your stated scanned 8 Fit 3? Just curious on how accurate the Bauer new fit system really is....thanks.
Hey man, thanks for the view and comment! So, the short answer is no, these don't fit perfect. I don't think such a thing exists in skates, sticks or any other piece of gear. What I will say, is their the best fitting NON-CUSTOM skates I've tried in recent years. For me, depth is the issue. No one makes skates deep enough for my heels and instep. That said, I haven't been able to find my size to try in CCM's new fitting system. Also, my toes don't touch the ends of the toe caps and I wouldn't personally want them to. Even in my custom lengths (7 3/4 left and 8 right), as the skates get tighter, the better they need to fit and they never do. I'd rather have them a bit long than compromise heel lock, foot wrap forefoot width issues, etc. With all of that said, I've found that this generation of the Bauer foot scanner has been accurate and I'm one who has gotten custom skates from them. Since I know my size, I can tell if something is wrong. What I've seen is that you want to be scanned barefoot. It seems to produce a different size if you wear socks. Keep that in mind. Also, there might be a user error issue in some cases. I've seen a store associate mess up what should be a pretty straight forward process.
im in the same boat. I tried on 9.5s and touched (they felt a bit tighter) the 10s in fit 1 felt great, but definitely felt a bit more roomy. I wear a size 12 shoe what about you? what did you end up getting size wise?
Great Review! I was wondering if the volume change is the same in the new 3x and not only the hyperlite. I just am not at any level of play to pay $900+ for skates. I used to wear a nexus ee and still had to get them punched and stretched. Ive been looking for new skates but since ccm and bauer changed their fit systems ive been hesitant. Again great video! thanks
You’re welcome and glad I could help! For reference, I wore the 7.5 EE Bauer Nexus 2N. Although nothing really fits like it anymore, the 8 Fit 3 Hyperlite is as close as it gets without going custom. Just an FYI, the 3X doesn’t fit like the Hyperlite, so give them a try before you buy if you can.
@@matthewgesior3294 good plan. I think it’ll come down to your heel width, but that’s obviously just a guess. The Ribcor will have the most heel width but you’d never know that until they’re heated up and baked. The feel narrow until you do that. They’re a great skate too. Let me know how it works out.
@@matthewgesior3294 unfortunately not a huge surprise. There really aren’t many options for players with stocky frames and feet. Please consider CCM for custom over Bauer and True. CCM is the only one doing it right the first or second time. Please watch my other videos.
Great video - thank you very much. I have the Bauer Nexus 8000 and my next pair of skates should be slightly narrower at the instep but still wider in the sole. Do you think the Hyperlite Fit 3 would be ideal for this? Once again - thanks for your answer and keep up the good work. BR
Thank you for your comments and questions! I personally don’t think even with the new Bauer fit system that there’s a current Bauer skate that’s as wide or has as much volume as a Nexus skate. Look at it this way. The Bauer Fit 3 is the equivalent of a Nexus “D” width. Also, the Hyperlite has more forefoot width and volume than the Supreme Mach skates. Additionally, the Hyperlite has a tighter heel than the Mach. If you want more volume and something more closely aligned to the Nexus skate, you should consider the CCM ASV Pro Supertacks. You might also get away with the FT6 Pro Jetspeed with its slightly less volume.
@@mongillohockey Thank you very much for your fast reply. As discribed by you - I guess the Hyperlite is the best option 😀 The heel should be tighter aa the Nexus while having enough volume on the forefoot. You mentioned that the 3D-Bauer-measure system seems to be accurate - right? So maybe I will check instore first and get somehow scans 😉
@@18ypes Yes, I think the the Bauer foot scanner is accurate for both Bauer and CCM skates now. There was a time when I didn’t feel that way, but you should be good now.
I wear a 8W in CCM (100K Pro and FT4 Pro). Bought the Hyperlite Fit 3 in size 8 and 7.5. 8's were snug and fit fine for the most part, but seemed a bit lengthier than the CCM's by about 1/4 an inch. I played one game and they felt really good for the most part. The 7.5's arrived in the mail this morning, and the length was much better, as I was able to feather the toecap. They were also snug but felt better as they settled in after wearing them for 15 minutes. One thing I wanted to note is that when I pulled out the foot beds on both skates, the 8's had a size 8.5 foot bed and the 7.5's had a size 8 foot bed. I thought this was kind of weird, but I guess it makes sense. So I guess I will probably end up keeping the 7.5's and returning the 8's.
Hi there, thanks for the comment! Your comments about the footbeds is a normal situation; they do that with holders too. For instance, a 7.5 D Bauer holder is usually a 263mm, whereas a 7.5 wide/Fit 3 is usually a size 272mm. I've also noticed the size length difference between Bauer and CCM. I'm a 7 3/4 in custom Bauer and a size 8 in custom and retail CCM. CCM seems to be shorter in general and in alignment with your comments.
I had the supreme s190 skates and I wore a size 6.5 and they fit perfect. Then I went to the hyperlites and I’m a 6.5 fit 1 but it still feels a little big and my toes aren’t really by the toe cap for some reason? Is it because it’s a wider toe cap or do I need to size down to a 6 maybe?
It has a wider toe cap. Believe it or not, the supreme has more heel and volume but the forefoot is significantly narrower than the Hyperlite skate. They did make the forefoot a little wider on the Mach skate this year but that’s what you’re feeling.
Can you use most type of steel for these skates? I cant seem to fit my L2 steel into the skate. the carbon blades are garbage and are dull after 2-3 skates
Hey there, I’m wondering if you don’t have compatible steel for the Tuuk Edge holders. You may need to upgrade to LS4 steel at a minimum. The old LS2 steel (if that’s what you’re trying to use) was the steel used prior to the implementation of the holders with the trigger system. And yes, the carbon steel is not only expensive but also poopy.
How do these perform up around the top eyelet? I bought 1000$ pair of 1xLEs a few years back and they are the worse skates I ever bought. The injection molded eyelets rubbed a hole THROUGH my tongue. I have skinnier ankles and I'm a forward aggressive skater so I basically have to wear bunga pads all around my ankles to skate. I emailed Bauer about it a month after the 1 year warranty was up and they basically told me to pound salt.
Sounds like a Bauer thing to do. Well, you can rest assured these Hyperlite skates don’t fit like your old 1X LEs. They even fit slightly different than the recent 2X Pro. Regarding the top eyelets, I haven’t had any real damage to the tongue but I also lace outside in on the top eyelets. I get better forward knee bends that way. I also have to wear gel bunga pads on my ankle bone, but that’s not the skate’s fault. What I will mention if you have thinner ankles is that the top of the boot flares out towards the top. This may result in reduced lateral support. Depending on your foot shape, you could be better suited in a CCM Jetspeed of Ribcor 100K. The quality is pretty much the same between Bauer and CCM now, which is really good. TRUE skates durability still isn’t quite there.
did you try on the hyp2 by any chance? i tried on the original hyperlite and finally after trying a lot of new skates on (my skates are 10+ years old) i had the same feeling that you described: finally enough space in the forefoot/toe box and everything above that was snug as it should be. Now i wanna order the hyperlite2 and don’t know if they fit the same as the original’s i just hope so. if you tried them on it would be cool if you could say some things in terms of how they compare.
Hey man, I haven’t tried the Hyperlite 2 skates on yet. That said, I can give you a little second-hand feedback from two of my friends who own them and came from the original Hyperlites. First off, the Hype2s are an upgrade in padding and the tongue. Secondly, both of my friends feel the Hype2s are tighter than the original in the length department. The other thing is that neither person was crazy about the new holders and one of my friends swapped them out. The feedback was that the new holders are stiff and that if you have leftover steel from your Bauer Tuuk Edge holder, that steel is NOT compatible with the new Powerfly holders. That’s about what I can tell you for now. Hope that gives you stuff to think about. My recommendation as always is to order from a place that allows returns.
@@mongillohockey Thanks for your detailed reply. Yeah i know about the difference’s between them on paper but was thinking about the fit. I like the looks of the new hyperlites including the holder. I will order 2 size’s to see what fits best so length shouldn’t be a problem, i was more worried about the width. I hope it stayed the same. hyperlites fit 2 felt really great so i hope hyp2 fit 2 are the same. By the way, you nailed it describing the fit of the hyperlite in your video (probably because that’s exactly my opinion 😂)
@@Martin-lw8qb Haha thanks! I’m glad you’re not afraid to buy two sizes and return one. That’s a great way not to get screwed on fit. I’m gonna have to do the same thing after I upgrade my FT4 Pro skates.
Fit 3 in Bauer is definitely wider than the EE Jetspeed. That said, CCM have a new fitting system for the Jetspeed and Ribcor line that incorporates not only width but the more import volume of your foot. I haven’t tried that new fitting system yet but at the end of the day it’s likely an improvement over the old system. The system isn’t in place for the supertacks line as far as I know. In general the vapors have a wider feel to them over the Jetspeed, especially in the forefoot. All that said, the Ribcor skate may be the best medium between the two. They’re a nice design. Kinda like a Jetspeed with more room in it.
Was thinking about picking a pair of these up - but might have missed out on this run- not liking the look of the newest version plus not trying to pay $1000+ coming off of Bauer vapor X4.0 which has been an amazing skate for me. I'm 50 and may be the last set of skates I ever buy so wondering if I can find a deal- do you think it's worth pursuing these? Thanks!
Hey there, I totally understand where you're coming from. Here's some things to consider. Yes, I think these Hyperlites and the new Hyperlite 2 skates are worth it. Just know that the new Hyperlite 2 skates fit slightly shorter than the original Hyperlite. I also think that all three models of CCM skates are not only more durable than anything Bauer is currently producing, but they're more comfortable (This is obviously subjective). That said, I think on-ice performance with Bauer boots feels better than CCM. I think in your case I'd avoid TRUE skates, too. If you're 50 and have been skating on traditional boots you might be uncomfortable with how they force you to skate unless your technique is super good. Now that we have that out of the way, go onto Sidelineswap.com and start looking around for one of these models in your size. If you don't have an account, create one. It's free and one of the best sites to find used gear. One thing I need to stress is that you need to be 100 percent sure of your size. This will require you to go get your foot scanned by a local hockey shop if you have one. You don't want to risk buying used skates since the Hyperlites or anything else will not fit like your current skates. Once you're sure of your size, brand and model, go onto Sidelineswap.com and pick out a used pair to save a bunch. Good luck!
I can’t believe I’ve never seen your channel. My 2 main hobbies are hockey and guitar (I do a guitar podcast called the Gear Slum). I also have insanely wide feet, and in the weirdest coincidence of all, I have the exact same bag (even same color) as you 😂😂
Hey man, welcome to the channel! Yeah I was pro musician for 12 years so I thought the name was fitting! I’ll have to check out your podcast. Let me know how your vapors fit. FYI that the Hyperlite 2 and 3X pros fit slightly different.
Hey there, my experience tells me, and this is unofficial, that the Hyperlite 2 are shorter than the original by about a quarter size. They’re more in line with the CCM Jetspeed length now. Regarding how they compare to the Mach, the Machs are narrower in the forefoot and wider in the heel. Honestly. The Machs are a weird fit. Go Hyperlite 2 for more volume and Machs for less volume. CCM will have skates with more overall volume if you need it.
Having owned both, I'd say most of that is marketing, but I do think the Ultrasonic has a slight edge when it comes to power and the Hyperlites have a slight edge on agility. That's ONLY the case if the skates fit you properly, of course. One thing the Ultrasonic does that's pretty cool is the tendon guard. It's flexibility gives you a really good full extension. That said, the toe cap design causes pain for a number of different players (Including me). The Hyperlite toe cap is more comfortable for seemingly most players.
@@mongillohockey thank you very much for your response. Your video is the only one that is a real user review. The rest is all marketing and third person salesmanship. I would really like to know an indepth real user review of the Bauer's flagship models.
@@sleepingpanda8927 Glad I could help! As far as I know, there’s only two of us on UA-cam doing “real” reviews on a regular basis. The other guy is Beer League bum Hockey. If someone is getting gear to review from a manufacturer, their reviews are questionable to me unless I’m looking for tech data. Let me know if you want to know something in particular and I can try to help.
Ha! You noticed that, did you?! So I know a place called Binnies Skate Repair in Pennsylvania who had/has a stash of used ones from the Toronto Maple Leafs. He might still have some. They’re all used, however. I bought them because I was testing a new profile. Since I just retired as a ref, I wanted to move to a more hockey-specific profile. You might give him a call. Also, I recently did a review on the BladeTech DLC steel. It’s slightly better than the Step Steel BlackSteel and Pulse Ti for the same price. Just a thought.
Wow, I’m surprised these HyperLites fit you this great considering all the challenges you had with your multiple CCM custom skates. If you remember, I actually tried the custom Vapor 2X Pro and the fit and pain was terrible. I just ordered a pair of the CCM FT4 pro custom plus, and waiting for them to arrive. My custom TRUE skates seem to break down after about a year, and give some gnarly lace bite. But glad these fit you so well! I’m jealous, since these look like incredible skates. I wish my feet would fit comfortably in Bauer, but unfortunately my navicular bones won’t allow it! Thanks for the video!
Dude, I’m surprised too! I tried them on as a goof and was like, WTF?! That said, they’re not perfect. I do have to wear a gel bunga pad on my ankle bones but it’s easy to do and they feel great. Let me know how your Jetspeeds turn out. I think you’ll like them. CCMs bread and butter is the comfort of the toe cap.
What's the process of getting custom CCM skates? Are they shaping/molding the carbon fiber one-piece boot 100% to the shape of your feet? Could you share your experience, if possible? I'm skating the CCM AS3 Tacks Pro and they're the best skates I've ever used but I'm open to a custom fit for the FT4 Jetspeed Pro skates, but am wondering if it's truly worth it. Thanks in advance!
@@andersborum9267 - I went with the most expensive custom option on the Jetspeed FT4 Pro (total custom plus) They claim it’s a true mold to your foot, and it seems accurate. No pain in my navicular bones, and overall a great fit. The only difference I’m adapting to is the laces and wrap. I’m so used to the TRUE having a very tight wrap, but the CCM has much more room around the ankles (hard to explain without showing) But overall these are definitely the best skates I’ve ever had (they better be for the price!) I swapped out the holders for Tuuk Lightspeed Edge, since I have several pairs of Bauer steel. If you’ve had good experience with CCM, you might not need to go the FULL custom route, and can go the first custom option. *as a note, I added the toe cap comfort option and it definitely nice. Extra padding on the sides of the toe cap and it’s really great. Hope that helps!
@@cjmixer99 thanks for the info, highly appreciated. I will definitely consider going with a custom setup with the FT4 Pros or another set of AS3 Pros. The toe cap you're mentioning, is that an option that's available for the first custom setup?
@@andersborum9267 - I believe the toe cap cushion was only an option under the Total Custom PLUS, but I could be wrong... I would call your local shop and ask. But overall, I think you'd be happy if you're already skating in CCM with good success.
Sorry, late response! So, I got the Step Steel from the Toronto Maple Leafs. They were slightly used and weren't their originally height. I had a contact with the team at the time who occasionally gets me steel and gear. Your best option now is to get BladeTech with the DLC finish on it. The height of the steel is better than Step (Better = tall, but not as tall as Step).
I don't use these skates anymore, but I didn't personally have any issues with the tongues. That said, I know of a number of people who ARE having that issue. There's still no beating a plain old 7mm thick felt tongue.
I definitely have to agree. I had the 2X Pro and went into the hyperlites. With the Hyperlite I wear a 9.0 Fit 2, the overall fit reminds me alot of the original Bauer TotalOne fit. The boots internally feels more empty and gives you way more of a proper fit.
I have a vague memory of those skates. I believe that was the last pair of Bauer skates I was able to fit into until these came along! Lol. I still don’t really like the injected eyelets. They don’t wrap the foot as well as traditional eyelets. Oh well.
Hey there, I don’t have the skates anymore but never had any problems in that area. That said, I’ve heard a number of people complain about the tongues pinching their ankles. I replaced these skates with FT4 Pros and enjoy the fit more on those.
So I send my steel to the place in Pennsylvania called Binnies Skate Sharpening and Repair. He sometimes has used steel around. At the time I purchased the steel he had a bunch of these sets in different sizes from the Toronto Maple Leafs. Google and call him to see if he has any in stock in your size. He charged me around $100 which is a great deal for the condition.
Great videos! Has anyone had any success dealing with 'lace bite'? It came out of nowhere after about 4 years of using CCM super tacks. (left foot only). (Tried Bunga pads, skipping eyelets...cant get rid of it.) Is this due to a poor fitting skate that might be starting to break down a bit? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
My experience with lace bite is that it’s one of two things. Either the felt tongue wore out leaving you with little padding or you never had a skate with enough heel depth in the first place. You might’ve need a higher volume skate than the supertacks. Probably you would’ve needed Bauer nexus skates or custom. Aside from all of that, Bunga pads and other stuff like them usually don’t work and can even cause other issues.
@@mongillohockey Great advice. Thank you! How is the comfort and support of the tongues on the new Vapour Hyperlites ( compared to traditional felt tongues)?
@@mikecampbell2158 Honestly, nothing beats a felt tongue in my opinion; they just work. I personally liked the Hyperlite tongue but many said it caused an uncomfortable pinch point on the sides of their ankles. It’d be something to look out for.
Hey man, there are some differences. I find that the Hyperlite 2 feels slightly shorter thank the original Hyperlite. More specifically, the Hyperlite 2 is about the same length as a CCM Jetspeed now, whereas that didn’t seem to be the case with the original Hyperlite skates. Obviously, this could be a good or bad thing depending on your foot size and shape. Hope that helps.
@@mongillohockey it does thanks. I may be having issues finding the right length since I've been jumping between the two. Had 9 fit 1 hyperlites that were too long then tried hyper2 in an 8.5 fit 2 and length was good but not enough volume. So I order hyperlite on sale in 8.5 fit 3 and they were quite long again lol. Now I have hyper2 8 fit 3 on the way in the mail and hopefully they fit but I suspect I may have further confused myself by switching back and forth haha.
@@Mark-xr5gj Haha Yeah I predict the 8 fit 3 Hyperlite 2 will be the best size. I’ll also throw a couple things out there to think about. There is overall more volume for the same size in the CCM FT6 pro than the Vapors. It’s mostly in the heel depth. If things still feel weird when you get your skates, give those a try if possible. Also, I’ve been getting mostly negative reviews if the Bauer Fly lite holders. Apparently they feel uncomfortably stiff, but I can’t speak to that first hand. That said, those with the Hyperlite 2 skates plus the old Tuuk Edge holders love that setup. Something to think about. Let me know how it goes when you get your skates.
@@mongillohockey I got the 8 fit 3 hyper2 today and am currently heating up my oven. I'm lacking a little depth in the forefoot etc but the tongue feels lace bite proof anyways. I'll let you know how the holders feel but I can't imagine they'll feel stiffer than my true customs that I wore last week haha
@@Mark-xr5gj Okay, thanks for letting me know. Also, don’t feel stuck with the Hyperlite 2 skates. If you feel like there isn’t enough volume, it means you need to go CCM. Jetspeed has a little more volume and the Tacks have a lot more volume. Let me know how it goes.
Depending on the make and model, I'm either a 10.5 or 11 wide/high volume shoe. My custom scanned skate sizes always seem to come up as either 8 for both feet if I'm in CCM or 7.5 left/8 right if I'm in Bauer. Of course, all in wide with super high volume.
Although it sounds like I like these skates more than you, I will tell you that it drives me nuts that manufactures don’t leave well enough alone regarding tongues. The standard 7mm felt tongue will probably always be dominant.
Can you give me a little more specifics? If it’s where the toe cap is digging into the top of your foot that usually means that there’s not enough instep height for your particular foot and you might need to look at CCM rib core.
@@mongillohockey It is the prt of the tounge you said was causing some pinching for some people. It is at the top of my ankle where the tounge seems to be pinching and causing irritation
As a recently retired referee…yes. 😀. They’re low key enough not to piss off your RIC or game assignor. Most importantly they’re comfortable enough to push lines or stand on the back of the net. For reference, I used to wear custom Ribcor 80Ks and custom Ultrasonics and I prefer the Hyperlites. You’ll want to make sure you pair them with the right profile for officiating. For example, a Zuperior, Detroit, Winnipeg, etc. If you also play hockey, I’d do a CAG One, quad zero or 9 foot profile to maintain the boot’s agility.
Hi there thanks for the comment. I actually had two pairs of them when I was still reffing and it didn’t work out for me. Not only did they not last very long before breaking down but they also gave me a permanent foot injury on my left big toe due to the extreme forward pinch of the boot and neither pair was made correctly the first time. All that said True is a fantastic company and I think they have great customer service and I personally love their sticks.
@@mongillohockey understandable, did you keep their holder or switch to a Bauer? that would help with the pitch. I have XS holder on both my goalie and player trues and they've been great. sounds like they fixed the skates after the first time? they're awesome with that if need be
@@raymcgirr7143 I had Bauer Edge holders but I honestly think the XS holder is a better choice for those skates. And yes, Trues custom service was great and I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend them as a company. My general advice to people interested in their skates is to inform them that the skates will force you to a degree into a proper skating position. This is great if you already have the proper skating technique or if you want to learn it. If you’re like me and have a very specific style because I’m a referee, I don’t want my technique messed with.
@@mongillohockey I tell people the same thing when selling skates especially stock or custom trues. I've had guys love the shift holders and others switched them out so to each their ow like you said
I had 2x pros and they are the worse skates I have ever worn they felt like wobbly cinder blocks so I just got a pair of supreme machs and they are close to the old school feel and no wobble and feel like the best pair I ever had the nexus 8000’s.
Totally agree. I just tried the Machs on two days ago. They feel similar to the Ultrasonic if not a little more comfortable. The wrap or the supreme boots are just better if they fit.
I bought a pair of 2X’s when they came out and they felt comfy on my feet off the ice. I tried to play with them but they just felt ”clumsy” and ”inaccurate” on the ice for the lack of a better word. Felt like I forgot how to skate.. Before that I had APX2 for 5+ years until they completely gave in. I absolutely loved them. Now I’m thinking about buying a pair of hyperlite 1 or hyperlite 2 perhaps. Do you guys think I would like them? Or would I be better off trying a pair of Machs for example.
@@idkau I'm wondering if I'd notice it too. I actually have to use gel Bunga pads on my ankle bones, so I'm probably not feeling it even though it's there.
Thanks so much man. Started watching all your vids and loving it. Glad we are doing the real world. You need more love!
You’re welcome and I’m glad there’s at least two of us doing this now! I’ve had some real skate fit issues over the years and had both of my hips replaced due to arthritis before 41 years old (Thanks hockey). Let’s keep in touch. It sounds like we may have info that we can bounce off each other. I’m going to be doing a BladeTech steel review soon. Should be here by the end of next week. I’ll be coming at it from the ankle of joint health instead of performance. Oh and your Warrior LX Pro video was good, but I was surprised by your results. I might have to give it a second chance.
@@mongillohockey I know the arthritis, I have rheumatoid arthritis and it’s been really challenging. So I feel you. I’m definitely interested in those runners so I look forward to your vid. Yah I’ve hated warrior sticks so I was just as surprised but looks like I’ll be rocking this stick now! Definitely stay in touch and look forward to what you have planned
@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews yes, I think I remember you mentioning you having to deal with arthritis too. Super lame, but that’s how it goes. And yes. I’m really curious about the BladeTech. I got the DLC version. I’m currently using a pair of bootleg DLC Step Steel from the Leafs equipment room so it should be a good comparison since I had them both profiled the same. And once my AS4 pro wears out, I’ll take another look at the LX and the FT4. My only two complaints about the AS4 pro is the lively blade (can sometimes make it a little challenging to receive hard passes) and the P29 curve. It’s not quite as tall as a regular P92 or W03, so pucks sometimes skip over the top. But that’s minor stuff.
@@mongillohockey yah at the price it’s definitely worth getting something you like too. I’ll be looking out for the vid!
This I great, glad to see your are following the path of beer league but with genuine reviews, I enjoy watching both of your guys content it is really helpful so please keep up the great reviews :)
Thanks man! I’ll keep them coming! I’ve got a review of the BladeTech steel coming. A real review. Lol
Great video, thank you very much. I played supreme 2s pro 9.5 D, but HyperLite 8.5 fit 3 suited me, measured all fits from 8 fit 2 to 9.5 fit 2, thanks again for the good recording
Thanks for checking it out!
100% spot on review. My hyperlites on a Quadzero fbv are perfect perfect perfect!!!! 🤘🤘🤘
Yeah I made the transition a few months ago to the hyperlites. I’m so happy. I’ve used supremes ever since they came out and I wish I had switched sooner!!
Glad you like them! Great skates!
Nice review. I like your CCM custom skate had ordered my first ever pair of custom skates….Bauer Hyperlites. Pure hockey measured me at a fit 3 8 and 8.25 so we went with the 8.25 for both feet. Changed the coloring to a stealth black and grey. After waiting almost two months the skates arrive. Go pick them up and immediately the right felt perfect and the left felt like they used a fit 2 toe cap. You could tell visually looking at it that it was narrower. Measuring it later confirmed it. I was told to skate in them and see how it went. After two skates and killing my pinky toe I went back to pure hockey. Then I noticed the toe can issue on both skates. The toe cap is not set in nice and tight like the standard skates you buy off the shelf. These $1300 skates look like I was given an 8 boot and the toe cap was pulled forward to crest the .25 spacing. Not a happy camper with Bauer.
I am now waiting to see what happens. The skates were shipped back to Bauer. I told pure hockey that if Bauer cannot fix it properly I do not want these skates. Very disappointed with Bauer in the fit and finish and sloppy work. They look amazing but upon a closer look these are not as advertised. Shame shame Bauer. First and last time I do custom of any brand.
Sorry you had that experience but I’m actually pretty confident you’ll be taken care of by both Bauer and Pure Hockey. Unfortunately this is why I usually tell people not to go with custom skates because it’s hard to get them correct the first time unless you have a really easy foot which in that case why would you be getting custom skates? Good luck and let me know how it goes.
I hope they will correct it. I went with customs just because I never had a pair and wanted the experience…thinking it would have been different. I wanted to have a skate that was mine/my style and different which is why I went custom too. I’m sure pure hockey will do the right thing. They are good guys and I hope Bauer sees their errors and corrects it. If not I’ll take a credit and get one off the shelf. 🤷🏻
@@Hockeygoaliedad so Bauer actually made me three pairs of skates. The vapors that didn’t fit and two pairs of ultrasonics. They fit better but not good enough. Toe cap issue. After all of that, I was refunded and pure got me into custom Ribcor 80Ks. Ccm got it right the first time. That said, I’m in the Hyperlite now since they fit so well. Im confident they’ll help you.
I just got a pair of these and have an average width but deep heel and had constant pain from my supreme skates. These Hyperlites are AMAZING!!!!! they fit great with zero pain, and the lacing system was a nice surprise, I didn’t think it would make a difference but lacing these up vs traditional circle eyelits was a massive difference. Love these skates
Hey there, glad you're digging the skates! Pretty significant comfort difference between these and the 2X Pro Vapors, not to mention your old Supremes.
@@mongillohockey yes!! I came from S27 supreme skates and these are a million times better.
I love the reviews
Thanks man! Appreciate the view and comment!
Hey, very nice review!
I feel your pain about your ankle bone being too far forward. I had the same issue and it got progressively worse to a point i couldnt skate properly due to pain so i got them punched out and the issue went completely away...No more gel pads and they seem to fit even more ''naturally''. Would highly recommend it!
Thanks for the comment! I’m not exactly sure what the problem would be withgiving a little bit more room for your ankles and skates. I wonder if there’s some sort of performance problem.
Hey, bro have the same problem, but can not fix it :(
What did you do with yours?
Thanks for these skate videos. If I'm struggling to fit widthwise in a FIT 3, I currently have an 8.5 fit3 vapor 3x that's been baked and my foot is still killing me ( was scanned as a 7.5 fit 3...). I could also use more ankle volume too. Eying a custom CCM ribcore at the moment. I would go with TRUE but I'm worried about durability. Do you think Custom is my only option if a Fit 3 isn't working out?
First off thanks for the comment. I’d recommend trying the Hyperlite as they do fit wider than the 3X to me. If that still doesn’t work for you then I am afraid that custom is your only option but I would avoid True for durability and my own opinion on how they fit. I’ve owned two pairs of the custom ones. Right now, ccm is making the best custom skate if you’re willing to spend the cash. I think you’re on the right track going for the Ribcor.
If you scan at a 7.5 you might be getting foot pain because you are skating in a skate a full size up. Get the 7.5 fit 3. if they fit length wise get them baked and stretched/punched
Your analysis of this skate is spot on in this video. Now that you have owned both the ultrasonic and the hyperlite - which skate model between the two provides more forward flex - in your own opinion ? I own the hyperlite now and do notice the newly engineered injected eyelets to help but was wondering if an ultrasonic would provide even more forward flex than the hyperlite?…. I’d like a little more than what I am getting on the hyperlite and am not willing to drop eyelets….
Hey man, thanks for the comment! So I think boot fit might be the first thing to look at. If you fit an Ultrasonic, that skate will give you more power, forward flex and foot wrap than any non-custom Vapor skate. What you should know, is the forefoot width and toe cap volume of the ultrasonic is less than the Hyperlite. If you have a wider higher volume foot like me, I’d be hesitant to go to the ultrasonic at all. However if they fit I believe they do a better job giving you what you’re looking for. The hyper light do fit well but they’re not nearly as stable from a lateral standpoint. When other skate that I’ve had a lot of experience with that you might consider is the CCM Ribcor. It’s the most underappreciated skate with the best forward flex on the market. The other two models of CCM skate are too stiff for me, but the Ribcor and ultrasonic are similar in stiffness with the ultrasonic being a little stiffer. Hope that helps!
@@mongillohockey thanks it does help. I was in a 70k before the hyperlites. Maybe should have tried the 100k. Do you think 100k would provide more forward flex than the new ultrasonics? Cool thing about CCM is 90 day no questions asked return policy…. I’ve never tried on the 100k only seen it in a pro shop and it seemed very stiff (boot squeeze test) unlike the 70/80k of the past. I may have to try 100k and or ultrasonics/mach1 to see if they can provide a bit more forward flex…
@@mattweber1128 So the new 100K is a bit different than the 80Ks of the past. You obviously know about the 100ks being a one piece boot, but it feels like a softer flexing FT4 pro Jetspeed now. I still think the Ultrasonic might give you a smoother forward flex as long as the toe cap doesn’t bother you. I actually feel like the Ultrasonic could be the fastest skates I’ve ever worn. That said, I can’t help feeling like all CCM skates are generally more comfortable than Bauer.
I have a narrow foot that fit the Bauer Vapor XXX perfectly. Do you think the fit1 in these would work? Also, what made you decide not to go with the carbon runner blade? Just curious. Thanks!
Hey there thanks for the comment. I do believe the fit one is probably a good starting point for you since it’s supposed to be no different than the original neurofitting skate but I’m guessing you’ll feel some sort of nuance difference. Regarding steel, the carbon just doesn’t have the same edge retention or glide as other steel.
I found your comment regarding ankle impingement on eyelets interesting. I have the same issue bilaterally but worst on the left. I’ve created a pair of Frankenstein socks - I used silicone seam sealer to fix bunga pads in place over the upper slope of my ankles. It’s flexible and a great adhesive - the pads stay where I need them.
But that got me to thinking about heel slip, which is always an issue with my skates. So I applied a thin coat of silicone on both the inside and outside of the heel of the socks, emphasis on thin. It felt a little weird at first, kind of cold and slimy, but that goes away and what you’re left with is heel lock which is literally 100% without adding anything bulky or intrusive inside the boot.
The lengths we go to, right?
I love the creativity! Lol Skates can be such a gong show. Unless you’re a pro who gets a one on one fitting and actual plaster cast of your foot made, not even custom skates can get it right a lot of the time and I’ve had eight pairs from all of the manufacturers to know that’s a fact. Glad it seems to be working for you.
Great video, a lot of good info! One question please, what size, width and model did you have before the FIT system? Thank you
Thanks for the view! Prior to the new fit system I worn a Bauer Nexus 2N in a 7.5EE. For CCM I wore an 8EE.
@@mongillohockey How do the Hyperlights compare in fit and performance to your Nexus 2N?
@@craiglongden6984 Hi there, I should clarify. I fit a Nexus 2N when that skate was around but I never owned a pair. I can tell you that there’s hardly a comparison between the two skates from a performance standpoint. The Hyperlite are light and agile whereas the Nexus was more just a high volume skate for people who couldn’t fit anything else.
i recently got a pair of Hyperlite skates and they also have more volume than the models below them in the same vapor family that i had (vapor shift pro). the length sizing seems to be different too. i got a half size smaller and they fit almost exactly the same as my vapor shift pro skates did in a size 8 (i know not a big difference)
Hey man, good to hear from you. Yeah the sizing is strange. Whenever I do skate reviews I only talk about the sizing in relation to the top end models. Even one step down can vary slightly. In Bauer, I could probably wear a 7 3/4, but in CCM, I have to wear an 8.
I think the reason why the 2x pro skate had volume issues is because of the asymmetrical taper from the injected lacing system, I believer Bauer tweaked the lacing system on the current gen skates.. I currently have the hyperlite skates (8.5 Fit 2) coming from 2x pro skates and I have no issues with my hyperlites whatsoever, when I was trying to fit into 2x pro skates I had issues with lace bite and volume.
Yes, you could be right. Honestly, I wish Bauer would just stick to traditional eyelets. The wrap the foot better. But the Hyperlite is better. I just think it’s funny that Bauer said there’s no fit difference between them and the 2X pro! Lol. Oh well.
i have the same problem with your ankle bone problem. try lacing outside in on the top lace. worked for me.
Hey man thanks for the advice I actually gave that a shot and it didn’t remedy the problem 100% but it does feel better I’m gonna keep doing it.
My son has owned two pairs of the Hyperlite skates over the past 12 months. Right at the 6 month of skating in both pairs the plastic molded eyelets have broken.
He loves these skates and when the first pair broke we had to urgently purchase a replacement pair because where he was playing at the time didn’t have a repair shop. Luckily we have an amazing equipment repair shop close to where we live and they were able to take off the plastic eyelet and put in regular eyelets. His second pair broke this morning. Off to the repair shop again. We’ve had to invest way more money into these skates than anyone should have to. Skates were almost $1000 per pair and the repair is $100 for each side that needs repair. Buyer beware. If you are hard on your skates these might not be the right ones for you.
This is an rare, but not unheard of problem with injected eyelets. I think in general I'd tell the average person not to worry about it, but there is a reason why many pro guys get traditional eyelets when they do custom skates. Of course this is no consolation to you. Sorry that happened.
For those interested : I previously gamed the hyperlite in a 7.5 fit 2. I tried on the hyperlite 2 in the 7.5 and fit 2 and, the sizing is waay different (similar to what he referenced in the video between the 2x pro and the hyperlite). My lesson: don’t assume the previous size and fit translates 1:1 to the new version of these skates
Hey there, thanks for the really important comment! If I could get one skate fitting-related point across to everyone, it'd be to never assume one model of skate fits the same from one year to the next. I've been burned by that a couple times. I even have a recent subscriber who bought some Ribcors, received them, never tried time on and sent them back. He then got the chance to try another pair of Ribcors on and then bought them again. That seems to happen frequently.
can you explain further how the fit is different? Is the fore foot/ toe cap area wider? I bought a used pair of hyperlite skates 7.5 fit3 and I used a shoe boot width stretcher and heat gun, and was able to widen them enough to accommodate the bunion on the side of my big toe with out any rubbing issues which I was not able to do successfully with a pair of 3x pros
@@jeffgeckler9248 Hi there, so it appears that skate manufacturers are constantly trying to improve their skates, which is obvious information. That said, one thing they have a tendency to do, is tweak fit by reducing or increasing volume and or length. For example, I know two people who when from the Hyperlite to the Hyperlite 2 and noticed that the Hyperlite 2 feels shorter. Bauer will not confirm that. So to your question, it could be forefoot width as in the case between the Ultrasonic and the Mach or the length between this year’s and last year’s Hyperlite. I even noticed a tighter forefoot width on the FT6 pro compared to my FT4 Pro. Let me know if you have any follow ups.
Great videos, keep up the good work on your channel fantastic! Id like like to know if you would consider your fit on these "perfect" if there is such a thing. I was scanned for a 10 fit 1 and my toes do not touch my caps. When i try on a 9.5 fit 1 my toes touch the caps, could maybe wear them if performance was of utmost importance but I am pressing my luck with enough volume on 9.5 fit 1. Do your toes brush the end of the toe caps standing straight up and down and then pull off when you bend your knees/ie hockey skating position in your stated scanned 8 Fit 3? Just curious on how accurate the Bauer new fit system really is....thanks.
Hey man, thanks for the view and comment! So, the short answer is no, these don't fit perfect. I don't think such a thing exists in skates, sticks or any other piece of gear. What I will say, is their the best fitting NON-CUSTOM skates I've tried in recent years. For me, depth is the issue. No one makes skates deep enough for my heels and instep. That said, I haven't been able to find my size to try in CCM's new fitting system. Also, my toes don't touch the ends of the toe caps and I wouldn't personally want them to. Even in my custom lengths (7 3/4 left and 8 right), as the skates get tighter, the better they need to fit and they never do. I'd rather have them a bit long than compromise heel lock, foot wrap forefoot width issues, etc. With all of that said, I've found that this generation of the Bauer foot scanner has been accurate and I'm one who has gotten custom skates from them. Since I know my size, I can tell if something is wrong. What I've seen is that you want to be scanned barefoot. It seems to produce a different size if you wear socks. Keep that in mind. Also, there might be a user error issue in some cases. I've seen a store associate mess up what should be a pretty straight forward process.
im in the same boat. I tried on 9.5s and touched (they felt a bit tighter) the 10s in fit 1 felt great, but definitely felt a bit more roomy. I wear a size 12 shoe what about you? what did you end up getting size wise?
Nice review man!
Thanks I appreciate it!
Great Review! I was wondering if the volume change is the same in the new 3x and not only the hyperlite. I just am not at any level of play to pay $900+ for skates. I used to wear a nexus ee and still had to get them punched and stretched. Ive been looking for new skates but since ccm and bauer changed their fit systems ive been hesitant. Again great video! thanks
You’re welcome and glad I could help! For reference, I wore the 7.5 EE Bauer Nexus 2N. Although nothing really fits like it anymore, the 8 Fit 3 Hyperlite is as close as it gets without going custom. Just an FYI, the 3X doesn’t fit like the Hyperlite, so give them a try before you buy if you can.
@@mongillohockey Thank you so much for the feed back. I plan on trying the 3x, ribcore 88k and the jetspeed ft485 on. hopefully one will fit nice.
@@matthewgesior3294 good plan. I think it’ll come down to your heel width, but that’s obviously just a guess. The Ribcor will have the most heel width but you’d never know that until they’re heated up and baked. The feel narrow until you do that. They’re a great skate too. Let me know how it works out.
@@mongillohockey I went and tried on all three. None fit comfortably. I decided I am going to buy true custom skates for next season.
@@matthewgesior3294 unfortunately not a huge surprise. There really aren’t many options for players with stocky frames and feet. Please consider CCM for custom over Bauer and True. CCM is the only one doing it right the first or second time. Please watch my other videos.
Great video - thank you very much. I have the Bauer Nexus 8000 and my next pair of skates should be slightly narrower at the instep but still wider in the sole. Do you think the Hyperlite Fit 3 would be ideal for this? Once again - thanks for your answer and keep up the good work. BR
Thank you for your comments and questions! I personally don’t think even with the new Bauer fit system that there’s a current Bauer skate that’s as wide or has as much volume as a Nexus skate. Look at it this way. The Bauer Fit 3 is the equivalent of a Nexus “D” width. Also, the Hyperlite has more forefoot width and volume than the Supreme Mach skates. Additionally, the Hyperlite has a tighter heel than the Mach. If you want more volume and something more closely aligned to the Nexus skate, you should consider the CCM ASV Pro Supertacks. You might also get away with the FT6 Pro Jetspeed with its slightly less volume.
@@mongillohockey Thank you very much for your fast reply. As discribed by you - I guess the Hyperlite is the best option 😀 The heel should be tighter aa the Nexus while having enough volume on the forefoot. You mentioned that the 3D-Bauer-measure system seems to be accurate - right? So maybe I will check instore first and get somehow scans 😉
@@18ypes Yes, I think the the Bauer foot scanner is accurate for both Bauer and CCM skates now. There was a time when I didn’t feel that way, but you should be good now.
I wear a 8W in CCM (100K Pro and FT4 Pro). Bought the Hyperlite Fit 3 in size 8 and 7.5. 8's were snug and fit fine for the most part, but seemed a bit lengthier than the CCM's by about 1/4 an inch. I played one game and they felt really good for the most part.
The 7.5's arrived in the mail this morning, and the length was much better, as I was able to feather the toecap. They were also snug but felt better as they settled in after wearing them for 15 minutes. One thing I wanted to note is that when I pulled out the foot beds on both skates, the 8's had a size 8.5 foot bed and the 7.5's had a size 8 foot bed. I thought this was kind of weird, but I guess it makes sense. So I guess I will probably end up keeping the 7.5's and returning the 8's.
Hi there, thanks for the comment! Your comments about the footbeds is a normal situation; they do that with holders too. For instance, a 7.5 D Bauer holder is usually a 263mm, whereas a 7.5 wide/Fit 3 is usually a size 272mm. I've also noticed the size length difference between Bauer and CCM. I'm a 7 3/4 in custom Bauer and a size 8 in custom and retail CCM. CCM seems to be shorter in general and in alignment with your comments.
I had the supreme s190 skates and I wore a size 6.5 and they fit perfect. Then I went to the hyperlites and I’m a 6.5 fit 1 but it still feels a little big and my toes aren’t really by the toe cap for some reason? Is it because it’s a wider toe cap or do I need to size down to a 6 maybe?
It has a wider toe cap. Believe it or not, the supreme has more heel and volume but the forefoot is significantly narrower than the Hyperlite skate. They did make the forefoot a little wider on the Mach skate this year but that’s what you’re feeling.
Can you use most type of steel for these skates? I cant seem to fit my L2 steel into the skate. the carbon blades are garbage and are dull after 2-3 skates
Hey there, I’m wondering if you don’t have compatible steel for the Tuuk Edge holders. You may need to upgrade to LS4 steel at a minimum. The old LS2 steel (if that’s what you’re trying to use) was the steel used prior to the implementation of the holders with the trigger system. And yes, the carbon steel is not only expensive but also poopy.
How do these perform up around the top eyelet? I bought 1000$ pair of 1xLEs a few years back and they are the worse skates I ever bought. The injection molded eyelets rubbed a hole THROUGH my tongue. I have skinnier ankles and I'm a forward aggressive skater so I basically have to wear bunga pads all around my ankles to skate.
I emailed Bauer about it a month after the 1 year warranty was up and they basically told me to pound salt.
Sounds like a Bauer thing to do. Well, you can rest assured these Hyperlite skates don’t fit like your old 1X LEs. They even fit slightly different than the recent 2X Pro. Regarding the top eyelets, I haven’t had any real damage to the tongue but I also lace outside in on the top eyelets. I get better forward knee bends that way. I also have to wear gel bunga pads on my ankle bone, but that’s not the skate’s fault. What I will mention if you have thinner ankles is that the top of the boot flares out towards the top. This may result in reduced lateral support. Depending on your foot shape, you could be better suited in a CCM Jetspeed of Ribcor 100K. The quality is pretty much the same between Bauer and CCM now, which is really good. TRUE skates durability still isn’t quite there.
I’m coming from a 8.5 APX2 and was fitted for a 7.5 Fit 1 HyperLite. is this common to drop a one full size?
That seems like a big jump. I actually went from a 7.5EE Vapor to an 8 fit 3.
did you try on the hyp2 by any chance? i tried on the original hyperlite and finally after trying a lot of new skates on (my skates are 10+ years old) i had the same feeling that you described: finally enough space in the forefoot/toe box and everything above that was snug as it should be. Now i wanna order the hyperlite2 and don’t know if they fit the same as the original’s i just hope so. if you tried them on it would be cool if you could say some things in terms of how they compare.
Hey man, I haven’t tried the Hyperlite 2 skates on yet. That said, I can give you a little second-hand feedback from two of my friends who own them and came from the original Hyperlites. First off, the Hype2s are an upgrade in padding and the tongue. Secondly, both of my friends feel the Hype2s are tighter than the original in the length department. The other thing is that neither person was crazy about the new holders and one of my friends swapped them out. The feedback was that the new holders are stiff and that if you have leftover steel from your Bauer Tuuk Edge holder, that steel is NOT compatible with the new Powerfly holders. That’s about what I can tell you for now. Hope that gives you stuff to think about. My recommendation as always is to order from a place that allows returns.
@@mongillohockey Thanks for your detailed reply. Yeah i know about the difference’s between them on paper but was thinking about the fit. I like the looks of the new hyperlites including the holder. I will order 2 size’s to see what fits best so length shouldn’t be a problem, i was more worried about the width. I hope it stayed the same. hyperlites fit 2 felt really great so i hope hyp2 fit 2 are the same. By the way, you nailed it describing the fit of the hyperlite in your video (probably because that’s exactly my opinion 😂)
@@Martin-lw8qb Haha thanks! I’m glad you’re not afraid to buy two sizes and return one. That’s a great way not to get screwed on fit. I’m gonna have to do the same thing after I upgrade my FT4 Pro skates.
If I fit in some 9.5 vapor 3x pros, do you think I would fit in some of these in 9.5? I am fit 3. I have double ee jetspeeds and they kill me
Fit 3 in Bauer is definitely wider than the EE Jetspeed. That said, CCM have a new fitting system for the Jetspeed and Ribcor line that incorporates not only width but the more import volume of your foot. I haven’t tried that new fitting system yet but at the end of the day it’s likely an improvement over the old system. The system isn’t in place for the supertacks line as far as I know. In general the vapors have a wider feel to them over the Jetspeed, especially in the forefoot. All that said, the Ribcor skate may be the best medium between the two. They’re a nice design. Kinda like a Jetspeed with more room in it.
Was thinking about picking a pair of these up - but might have missed out on this run- not liking the look of the newest version plus not trying to pay $1000+ coming off of Bauer vapor X4.0 which has been an amazing skate for me. I'm 50 and may be the last set of skates I ever buy so wondering if I can find a deal- do you think it's worth pursuing these? Thanks!
Hey there, I totally understand where you're coming from. Here's some things to consider. Yes, I think these Hyperlites and the new Hyperlite 2 skates are worth it. Just know that the new Hyperlite 2 skates fit slightly shorter than the original Hyperlite. I also think that all three models of CCM skates are not only more durable than anything Bauer is currently producing, but they're more comfortable (This is obviously subjective). That said, I think on-ice performance with Bauer boots feels better than CCM. I think in your case I'd avoid TRUE skates, too. If you're 50 and have been skating on traditional boots you might be uncomfortable with how they force you to skate unless your technique is super good. Now that we have that out of the way, go onto Sidelineswap.com and start looking around for one of these models in your size. If you don't have an account, create one. It's free and one of the best sites to find used gear. One thing I need to stress is that you need to be 100 percent sure of your size. This will require you to go get your foot scanned by a local hockey shop if you have one. You don't want to risk buying used skates since the Hyperlites or anything else will not fit like your current skates. Once you're sure of your size, brand and model, go onto Sidelineswap.com and pick out a used pair to save a bunch. Good luck!
Wow - GREATLY appreciate that feedback! Invaluable - Thank you sir!@@mongillohockey
@@user-ri2yh1ce7y Glad I could help! Let me know what you end up with!
I can’t believe I’ve never seen your channel. My 2 main hobbies are hockey and guitar (I do a guitar podcast called the Gear Slum). I also have insanely wide feet, and in the weirdest coincidence of all, I have the exact same bag (even same color) as you 😂😂
I just ordered some Vapor 3X’s in fit3 so we’ll see how they fit. I’m hopeful
Hey man, welcome to the channel! Yeah I was pro musician for 12 years so I thought the name was fitting! I’ll have to check out your podcast. Let me know how your vapors fit. FYI that the Hyperlite 2 and 3X pros fit slightly different.
How is the sizing of hyperlite different from the mach? Does the mach skates have more room?
Hey there, my experience tells me, and this is unofficial, that the Hyperlite 2 are shorter than the original by about a quarter size. They’re more in line with the CCM Jetspeed length now. Regarding how they compare to the Mach, the Machs are narrower in the forefoot and wider in the heel. Honestly. The Machs are a weird fit. Go Hyperlite 2 for more volume and Machs for less volume. CCM will have skates with more overall volume if you need it.
How would you compare these to the ultrasonics on the ice? Is all the Bauer marketing agility vs. power hold true?
Having owned both, I'd say most of that is marketing, but I do think the Ultrasonic has a slight edge when it comes to power and the Hyperlites have a slight edge on agility. That's ONLY the case if the skates fit you properly, of course. One thing the Ultrasonic does that's pretty cool is the tendon guard. It's flexibility gives you a really good full extension. That said, the toe cap design causes pain for a number of different players (Including me). The Hyperlite toe cap is more comfortable for seemingly most players.
@@mongillohockey thank you very much for your response. Your video is the only one that is a real user review. The rest is all marketing and third person salesmanship. I would really like to know an indepth real user review of the Bauer's flagship models.
@@sleepingpanda8927 Glad I could help! As far as I know, there’s only two of us on UA-cam doing “real” reviews on a regular basis. The other guy is Beer League bum Hockey. If someone is getting gear to review from a manufacturer, their reviews are questionable to me unless I’m looking for tech data. Let me know if you want to know something in particular and I can try to help.
Where did you get the Step Steel for your skates (tuuk holder)
Ha! You noticed that, did you?! So I know a place called Binnies Skate Repair in Pennsylvania who had/has a stash of used ones from the Toronto Maple Leafs. He might still have some. They’re all used, however. I bought them because I was testing a new profile. Since I just retired as a ref, I wanted to move to a more hockey-specific profile. You might give him a call. Also, I recently did a review on the BladeTech DLC steel. It’s slightly better than the Step Steel BlackSteel and Pulse Ti for the same price. Just a thought.
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@@KevorkianMetal yep, that’s generally the first place I look too.
Wow, I’m surprised these HyperLites fit you this great considering all the challenges you had with your multiple CCM custom skates. If you remember, I actually tried the custom Vapor 2X Pro and the fit and pain was terrible. I just ordered a pair of the CCM FT4 pro custom plus, and waiting for them to arrive. My custom TRUE skates seem to break down after about a year, and give some gnarly lace bite.
But glad these fit you so well! I’m jealous, since these look like incredible skates. I wish my feet would fit comfortably in Bauer, but unfortunately my navicular bones won’t allow it! Thanks for the video!
Dude, I’m surprised too! I tried them on as a goof and was like, WTF?! That said, they’re not perfect. I do have to wear a gel bunga pad on my ankle bones but it’s easy to do and they feel great. Let me know how your Jetspeeds turn out. I think you’ll like them. CCMs bread and butter is the comfort of the toe cap.
What's the process of getting custom CCM skates? Are they shaping/molding the carbon fiber one-piece boot 100% to the shape of your feet? Could you share your experience, if possible? I'm skating the CCM AS3 Tacks Pro and they're the best skates I've ever used but I'm open to a custom fit for the FT4 Jetspeed Pro skates, but am wondering if it's truly worth it.
Thanks in advance!
@@andersborum9267 - I went with the most expensive custom option on the Jetspeed FT4 Pro (total custom plus) They claim it’s a true mold to your foot, and it seems accurate. No pain in my navicular bones, and overall a great fit. The only difference I’m adapting to is the laces and wrap. I’m so used to the TRUE having a very tight wrap, but the CCM has much more room around the ankles (hard to explain without showing) But overall these are definitely the best skates I’ve ever had (they better be for the price!) I swapped out the holders for Tuuk Lightspeed Edge, since I have several pairs of Bauer steel.
If you’ve had good experience with CCM, you might not need to go the FULL custom route, and can go the first custom option. *as a note, I added the toe cap comfort option and it definitely nice. Extra padding on the sides of the toe cap and it’s really great. Hope that helps!
@@cjmixer99 thanks for the info, highly appreciated. I will definitely consider going with a custom setup with the FT4 Pros or another set of AS3 Pros. The toe cap you're mentioning, is that an option that's available for the first custom setup?
@@andersborum9267 - I believe the toe cap cushion was only an option under the Total Custom PLUS, but I could be wrong... I would call your local shop and ask. But overall, I think you'd be happy if you're already skating in CCM with good success.
How or where did you get step steel for those and are they 23mm tall?
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Sorry, late response! So, I got the Step Steel from the Toronto Maple Leafs. They were slightly used and weren't their originally height. I had a contact with the team at the time who occasionally gets me steel and gear. Your best option now is to get BladeTech with the DLC finish on it. The height of the steel is better than Step (Better = tall, but not as tall as Step).
Any issues with the tongue? Haven't pain on the tongue digging into my outer ankles.
I don't use these skates anymore, but I didn't personally have any issues with the tongues. That said, I know of a number of people who ARE having that issue. There's still no beating a plain old 7mm thick felt tongue.
@@mongillohockey what skates do you use now?
@@GeeVideos I've transitioned to the CCM FT4 Pro Jetspeed. I have a really high-volume foot and the CCMs have more volume than either Bauer offering.
I definitely have to agree. I had the 2X Pro and went into the hyperlites. With the Hyperlite I wear a 9.0 Fit 2, the overall fit reminds me alot of the original Bauer TotalOne fit. The boots internally feels more empty and gives you way more of a proper fit.
I have a vague memory of those skates. I believe that was the last pair of Bauer skates I was able to fit into until these came along! Lol. I still don’t really like the injected eyelets. They don’t wrap the foot as well as traditional eyelets. Oh well.
Have you had to replacr the eyelids (tongues) as of now?
Hey there, I don’t have the skates anymore but never had any problems in that area. That said, I’ve heard a number of people complain about the tongues pinching their ankles. I replaced these skates with FT4 Pros and enjoy the fit more on those.
where did you find step black for that runner?
So I send my steel to the place in Pennsylvania called Binnies Skate Sharpening and Repair. He sometimes has used steel around. At the time I purchased the steel he had a bunch of these sets in different sizes from the Toronto Maple Leafs. Google and call him to see if he has any in stock in your size. He charged me around $100 which is a great deal for the condition.
@@mongillohockey awesome man thanks for the info!
@@123rwnp NP! Good luck and hopefully he still has some!
Great videos!
Has anyone had any success dealing with 'lace bite'? It came out of nowhere after about 4 years of using CCM super tacks. (left foot only). (Tried Bunga pads, skipping eyelets...cant get rid of it.) Is this due to a poor fitting skate that might be starting to break down a bit?
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
My experience with lace bite is that it’s one of two things. Either the felt tongue wore out leaving you with little padding or you never had a skate with enough heel depth in the first place. You might’ve need a higher volume skate than the supertacks. Probably you would’ve needed Bauer nexus skates or custom. Aside from all of that, Bunga pads and other stuff like them usually don’t work and can even cause other issues.
@@mongillohockey Great advice. Thank you! How is the comfort and support of the tongues on the new Vapour Hyperlites ( compared to traditional felt tongues)?
@@mikecampbell2158 Honestly, nothing beats a felt tongue in my opinion; they just work. I personally liked the Hyperlite tongue but many said it caused an uncomfortable pinch point on the sides of their ankles. It’d be something to look out for.
how do you write your profile ? quag-one ??
Hi there, I believe you're asking me what my profile is? I'm currently using a CAG One (The 25/45 version) with a 1/2" forward pitch.
Any chance youve tried a same size and fit in the hyperlite 2 yet to omoare the length for yourself?
Hey man, there are some differences. I find that the Hyperlite 2 feels slightly shorter thank the original Hyperlite. More specifically, the Hyperlite 2 is about the same length as a CCM Jetspeed now, whereas that didn’t seem to be the case with the original Hyperlite skates. Obviously, this could be a good or bad thing depending on your foot size and shape. Hope that helps.
@@mongillohockey it does thanks. I may be having issues finding the right length since I've been jumping between the two. Had 9 fit 1 hyperlites that were too long then tried hyper2 in an 8.5 fit 2 and length was good but not enough volume. So I order hyperlite on sale in 8.5 fit 3 and they were quite long again lol. Now I have hyper2 8 fit 3 on the way in the mail and hopefully they fit but I suspect I may have further confused myself by switching back and forth haha.
@@Mark-xr5gj Haha Yeah I predict the 8 fit 3 Hyperlite 2 will be the best size. I’ll also throw a couple things out there to think about. There is overall more volume for the same size in the CCM FT6 pro than the Vapors. It’s mostly in the heel depth. If things still feel weird when you get your skates, give those a try if possible. Also, I’ve been getting mostly negative reviews if the Bauer Fly lite holders. Apparently they feel uncomfortably stiff, but I can’t speak to that first hand. That said, those with the Hyperlite 2 skates plus the old Tuuk Edge holders love that setup. Something to think about. Let me know how it goes when you get your skates.
@@mongillohockey I got the 8 fit 3 hyper2 today and am currently heating up my oven. I'm lacking a little depth in the forefoot etc but the tongue feels lace bite proof anyways. I'll let you know how the holders feel but I can't imagine they'll feel stiffer than my true customs that I wore last week haha
@@Mark-xr5gj Okay, thanks for letting me know. Also, don’t feel stuck with the Hyperlite 2 skates. If you feel like there isn’t enough volume, it means you need to go CCM. Jetspeed has a little more volume and the Tacks have a lot more volume. Let me know how it goes.
what size shoe do you wear?
Depending on the make and model, I'm either a 10.5 or 11 wide/high volume shoe. My custom scanned skate sizes always seem to come up as either 8 for both feet if I'm in CCM or 7.5 left/8 right if I'm in Bauer. Of course, all in wide with super high volume.
do you trust the scanner? im going tomorrow to get scanned lol @@mongillohockey
I have a pare I skate 3 to 4 times a week I think they suck I changed my tung with a felt one
Although it sounds like I like these skates more than you, I will tell you that it drives me nuts that manufactures don’t leave well enough alone regarding tongues. The standard 7mm felt tongue will probably always be dominant.
hey man do you know how to fix that pinching of the tounge?
just wondering
Can you give me a little more specifics? If it’s where the toe cap is digging into the top of your foot that usually means that there’s not enough instep height for your particular foot and you might need to look at CCM rib core.
@@mongillohockey It is the prt of the tounge you said was causing some pinching for some people. It is at the top of my ankle where the tounge seems to be pinching and causing irritation
It’s at the 8 minute mark of the video
@@mongillohockey just have a game next week want to fix it
you feel this is a good skate for a official?
As a recently retired referee…yes. 😀. They’re low key enough not to piss off your RIC or game assignor. Most importantly they’re comfortable enough to push lines or stand on the back of the net. For reference, I used to wear custom Ribcor 80Ks and custom Ultrasonics and I prefer the Hyperlites. You’ll want to make sure you pair them with the right profile for officiating. For example, a Zuperior, Detroit, Winnipeg, etc. If you also play hockey, I’d do a CAG One, quad zero or 9 foot profile to maintain the boot’s agility.
why not go true custom?
Hi there thanks for the comment. I actually had two pairs of them when I was still reffing and it didn’t work out for me. Not only did they not last very long before breaking down but they also gave me a permanent foot injury on my left big toe due to the extreme forward pinch of the boot and neither pair was made correctly the first time. All that said True is a fantastic company and I think they have great customer service and I personally love their sticks.
@@mongillohockey understandable, did you keep their holder or switch to a Bauer? that would help with the pitch. I have XS holder on both my goalie and player trues and they've been great. sounds like they fixed the skates after the first time? they're awesome with that if need be
@@raymcgirr7143 I had Bauer Edge holders but I honestly think the XS holder is a better choice for those skates. And yes, Trues custom service was great and I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend them as a company. My general advice to people interested in their skates is to inform them that the skates will force you to a degree into a proper skating position. This is great if you already have the proper skating technique or if you want to learn it. If you’re like me and have a very specific style because I’m a referee, I don’t want my technique messed with.
@@mongillohockey I tell people the same thing when selling skates especially stock or custom trues. I've had guys love the shift holders and others switched them out so to each their ow like you said
I had 2x pros and they are the worse skates I have ever worn they felt like wobbly cinder blocks so I just got a pair of supreme machs and they are close to the old school feel and no wobble and feel like the best pair I ever had the nexus 8000’s.
Totally agree. I just tried the Machs on two days ago. They feel similar to the Ultrasonic if not a little more comfortable. The wrap or the supreme boots are just better if they fit.
I bought a pair of 2X’s when they came out and they felt comfy on my feet off the ice. I tried to play with them but they just felt ”clumsy” and ”inaccurate” on the ice for the lack of a better word. Felt like I forgot how to skate..
Before that I had APX2 for 5+ years until they completely gave in. I absolutely loved them. Now I’m thinking about buying a pair of hyperlite 1 or hyperlite 2 perhaps. Do you guys think I would like them? Or would I be better off trying a pair of Machs for example.
2x hurt my feet but I can wear a hyperlite fit 1
Strange right? At least they’re fitting you.
@@mongillohockey I have the pinch from the tongue but only on the left side. Other than that, they are great.
@@idkau I'm wondering if I'd notice it too. I actually have to use gel Bunga pads on my ankle bones, so I'm probably not feeling it even though it's there.