Moog Spectravox is in production! // Review, tutorial and 10 patch ideas

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  • Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
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    TIMELINE:
    0:00 Intro
    1:20 vs Workshop
    1:55 Overview
    2:55 Oscillator
    4:00 Synthesis Filters
    6:00 Spectral Shift
    6:20 Shift LFO
    6:45 VCA & EG
    7:05 EG Triggers
    7:25 Hiss & Buzz
    7:50 Vocoder mode
    10:20 Intelligibility
    10:50 Hold
    11:05 IDEAS & TIPS
    11:15 Pairing menu
    11:40 Polyphony!
    12:35 Non-vocal mod
    13:20 Ping the filters
    13:40 Play the filters
    14:05 Gate mode?
    14:40 PWM FTW
    15:30 Filter EG
    16:00 VCO as mod
    16:35 Beat to trigs!
    17:30 Pros & cons
    19:00 Some sounds
    20:00 More sounds!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 345

  • @johanfwahlberg
    @johanfwahlberg 17 днів тому +225

    You had me at "Hi!".

  • @MGoolas
    @MGoolas 17 днів тому +43

    Psytrance producers will gobble this up. That FM-y spectral shift was meaty af

    • @RJ1J
      @RJ1J 16 днів тому +3

      Techno also. Hundreds of producers are getting their orders in now.

    • @dergeneral7768
      @dergeneral7768 16 днів тому

      Genau daran dachte ich auch! 😎

    • @Matthew-pq3us
      @Matthew-pq3us 16 днів тому +2

      Yeah I am a psytrance and Acid Techno producer and really going to grab this moog

    • @vasil3089
      @vasil3089 15 днів тому +4

      didn't realize they can normally afford Moogs

    • @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777
      @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 14 днів тому

      @@RJ1J techno is psytrance and psytrance is dischordant disco 😂

  • @JeffSepeta
    @JeffSepeta 17 днів тому +34

    Thanks for making this device easier to understand. You consistently do a great job of demonstrating products in an approachable manner, helping me to make better purchase decisions.

  • @AndrewGordonBellPerc
    @AndrewGordonBellPerc 17 днів тому +35

    I can imagine this pairing really well with the subharmonicon, and gives them both a bit more of a reason to exist in the mother semi modular series

  • @PaulBoos
    @PaulBoos 14 днів тому +3

    That is one lovely arp sound with the Spectrvox and effects at 19:50-ish. Everything about this sounds wonderful. I am glad to see Moog adding that into their line up.

  • @sCealt
    @sCealt 16 днів тому +3

    Wow. Really appreciate Moog exploring this type of processing! Thanks for the video!

  • @Combsie
    @Combsie 14 днів тому +7

    Just got mine...made in Taiwan...no hard copy manual...still charged $599 plus tax....the fleecing has begun......

    • @juliantaylor5956
      @juliantaylor5956 10 днів тому

      How did you confirm this?

    • @juliantaylor5956
      @juliantaylor5956 10 днів тому +1

      Nvm I just looked it up I'm actually so sad

    • @BHPOfficial
      @BHPOfficial 5 днів тому +1

      This was what I feared, thanks for letting us know. I’ll be waiting for sale or skipping this one entirely

    • @coolxy2
      @coolxy2 2 дні тому

      sad

  • @petercane6376
    @petercane6376 16 днів тому

    I NEED one right now!
    Thanks loopop. Great video and super coverage.

  • @murderousmaths
    @murderousmaths 16 днів тому +1

    Very clear and fun walk-through. Thanks!

  • @GustavKlingt
    @GustavKlingt 16 днів тому +1

    Love your easy deepness…
    Thank you ! 😘

  • @morganwebster6636
    @morganwebster6636 15 днів тому +1

    It’s insane. This one is a keeper. Rad explanation. Thank you.

  • @PorchBass
    @PorchBass 17 днів тому +7

    That was a great marimba tone! Not something one would expect lol!

  • @inthefade
    @inthefade 16 днів тому +7

    Comb Filter, the synth. Very cool.

  • @The_Digital_Arts_World
    @The_Digital_Arts_World 16 днів тому +6

    Oh WOW. I was not expecting another semi from Moog. Thanks for the intro and review.

  • @KevinWheelerMusic
    @KevinWheelerMusic 14 днів тому

    Yesssss! Can't wait to get this one. I was looking for a eurorack compatible vocoder and Moog did it. Looking forward to it. Thank you for this video!

  • @gregkrukemeier2003
    @gregkrukemeier2003 16 днів тому +1

    Another great review and another Moog to add to my collection.

  • @audreyazwell
    @audreyazwell 13 днів тому +1

    just bought this based off your video & was dang sure to click your affiliate link first 😎 I've been looking for filter-banks all week (not to mention the last few years), always wanted something Moog & this just checked all the boxes. Loopop the GOAT

    • @loopop
      @loopop  13 днів тому +2

      Much appreciated!

  • @montigol
    @montigol 17 днів тому +21

    Respect to the age old tradition of saying the word "Vocoder" into a vocoder.

  • @kaiherrmann3249
    @kaiherrmann3249 17 днів тому +5

    Awesome! 👍🏻 ( and it it will pulverizing the crazy second hand prizes for the Moog Spectravox limited DIY Version ; )

  • @wkellyreeder
    @wkellyreeder 16 днів тому

    Thanks Loopop, again!

  • @klm.999
    @klm.999 17 днів тому +4

    it reaallly shines with reverb. Loved it!
    btw, i am still using the reverb Raum that you have adviced 5 years ago. i think it will be amazing with that

    • @Eli_B3000
      @Eli_B3000 17 днів тому

      Raum is great, I use it on a ton of stuff

  • @LarsBjerregaard
    @LarsBjerregaard 10 днів тому

    You made it sound great Ziv!

  • @HIFI1965
    @HIFI1965 17 днів тому +8

    @loopop Nice Daft Punk reference !!!

  • @jetsky_77
    @jetsky_77 16 днів тому

    Thank you for sharing! So excited about this Moog! ❤🎹🎛️🎹🎛️

  • @diogen_dj
    @diogen_dj 17 днів тому +3

    Not again haha. I am in. Thank you for review💙

  • @MyReasonToPlay
    @MyReasonToPlay 16 днів тому +6

    We are the robots
    Я твой слуга
    Я твой работник

  • @smallmovesexperiment1102
    @smallmovesexperiment1102 13 днів тому

    Seems like it could be an interesting Mastering chain. Really cool device, Moog. Well done.

  • @alreadystillagain
    @alreadystillagain 16 днів тому

    Thanks for the-as always-very informative and well articulated look at the Spectravox. Please do a vid on the Torso S-4 :)

  • @chefkochofdoom
    @chefkochofdoom 16 днів тому

    Amazing peace of gear! There is nothing like Moog!!!!

  • @JustPyroYT
    @JustPyroYT 17 днів тому +15

    Looks like the Moog fixed filter bank took some good steroids there lmao 🤣

  • @dimensionalineage
    @dimensionalineage 16 днів тому

    Loopop adroitly reviewing the new Moog Spectravox now in production. And the Moog is really a Moog replete with all its Moog-like things that we Moog fans know and love. The celestial bodies have favorably aligned.

  • @0e0
    @0e0 17 днів тому

    this thing is really cool

  • @ErnestoComposer
    @ErnestoComposer 16 днів тому

    This is so interesting!

  • @magicspiral3323
    @magicspiral3323 16 днів тому

    A voltage controlled comb filter? Wow, what a neat sound!

  •  17 днів тому

    can't wait to get one ;)

  • @ktreier
    @ktreier 16 днів тому +2

    Ordered mine right after watching your video. It will join my Subharmonicon, Mother-32, DFAM x 2 and my Taiga, in a newly under manufacture 6-tier stand!

    • @Axl_Pose
      @Axl_Pose 16 днів тому +1

      That will be a killer rig! I have pretty much the same setup minus the 2nd DFAM and Taiga. Torn between getting the other DFAM or Spectravox next.

    • @spdycar13
      @spdycar13 12 днів тому

      Ordered this. Saw the new Pittsburgh Modular Voltage Lab. Was going to send this back but it’s insane! Pittsburgh will have to wait.

  • @HIFI1965
    @HIFI1965 17 днів тому +1

    @loopop - You play keys like a great bass player ;)

  • @minimod_synths
    @minimod_synths 16 днів тому

    Thank you very much for sharing "MOscilloscope and MAnalyzer". I use SocaLabs oscilloscope but it's always nice to test other oscilloscope plugins. I wish to buy Rigol oscilloscope but good one is very expensive like for example Mother-32 (same price for new).

  • @abominablemusic
    @abominablemusic 16 днів тому

    Interesting synth, added to virtual wishlist...

  • @canniversparadise
    @canniversparadise 17 днів тому

    So many new devices!! Must control the GAS!!

  • @braillesounds
    @braillesounds 17 днів тому +1

    Hooray! It’s @loopop week!!!

    • @loopop
      @loopop  17 днів тому +1

      More incoming!

    • @jtn191
      @jtn191 16 днів тому

      🎉 same thing as a good week imo

  • @aenamabag
    @aenamabag 17 днів тому +2

    Is there any way to scan through the filter bank (like a Fumana or a MoogerFooger?)

  • @garyhoffman1
    @garyhoffman1 17 днів тому +2

    Wow! The patch at 1:00 sounded like an Eddie Jobson patch from his UK period.

    • @bluetv6386
      @bluetv6386 17 днів тому

      Except it didn't go "Ding Dong!!!"

  • @koumospecial
    @koumospecial 14 днів тому

    That pulse at 16:25 ….!🤩

  • @JoshuaNeedham
    @JoshuaNeedham 17 днів тому

    Glad I didn't sell my extra mini knobs. Also, looks like I may end up needing a 4 tier stand to hold the SS3 along with this gem. Thanks for the video.

  • @Blofehlt
    @Blofehlt 16 днів тому +8

    Well i already have the other three. There‘s no way i‘m not getting this

    • @spdycar13
      @spdycar13 12 днів тому +1

      You won’t be disappointed. I really wanted to hate it but in less than an hour it’s found a permanent home.

  • @Koopakid917543
    @Koopakid917543 16 днів тому +7

    I have very strong opinions on moog now. But I have to admit, this thing is super cool and very inspiring.

  • @Nokanmusic
    @Nokanmusic 16 днів тому

    Can’t wait to see what the Labyrith can do :D

  • @pheotus
    @pheotus 17 днів тому +4

    Sounds amazing. Was hoping since moog was bought out the price may be a bit more affordable.

    • @MatsueMusic
      @MatsueMusic 17 днів тому +5

      I suspect the price will go up to recoup the buy-out costs and of course......the ever increasing margins.

  • @Dogboy73
    @Dogboy73 14 днів тому

    Some great sounds from this thing. Very tempted. I have a Moog DFAM and it's one of my favorite things. Very playable, tweakable and sounds phenomenal. It needs a brother from the same Mother :D This might be the one. Intrigued by the leaked Moog Labyrinth as well.

  • @JonMurray
    @JonMurray 17 днів тому +2

    Sounds lush! Moog gear always sounds so, good? High quality? Expensive?? Hahah! Slowed down to click, right through to making the dog stare frequencies is so clean and tight. I own zero Moog synths and am in no way a Moog fan boy so more than happy to be told I’m talking nonsense but let me know if you know what I mean by that rambling hahah! This was a real surprise though. Such a wide and varied scope of sounds. Both nasty and beautiful in equal measures. Great video bud.

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape 16 днів тому

      Moog stuff is pretty high quality, which is why it generally costs more. Give them props for still making synth cases out of metal and wood instead of cheap plastic, too.

  • @BagMan123
    @BagMan123 17 днів тому

    I was thinking this was coming only yesterday I remember it from a Moog fest build a good many years ago
    👌

  • @CaldorFritz
    @CaldorFritz 17 днів тому

    Yes please 😲

  • @jakedooom
    @jakedooom 17 днів тому

    very interesting

  • @JoelBrowning000
    @JoelBrowning000 16 днів тому +1

    This probably dates me, but that opening note had me going "A modern-day warrior / Mean, mean stride......"

  • @carlosfedericolopezspindol3103
    @carlosfedericolopezspindol3103 16 днів тому

    I was expecting a Hi! through the Spectravox, but still, Loopop's natural robotic voice is unbeatable!

    • @loopop
      @loopop  16 днів тому

      ummm thank you?

  • @handheldgrooves
    @handheldgrooves 16 днів тому +1

    In terms of fx this thing is more interesting than the latest Chase Bliss Onward pedal

  • @argumentchannel
    @argumentchannel 17 днів тому +26

    Moog never excites me but i'm interested in this

    • @ichigen511
      @ichigen511 17 днів тому +2

      Interesting comment. I can't think of a manufacturer making new gear that DOESN'T excite me. I'm easily excited. LOL. Cheers!

    • @rayabsent2087
      @rayabsent2087 16 днів тому

      same feelings on my side. im totally digital synth guy, but this functionality is the one i was looking for a long time.

  • @FunnyBecauseItsTrue
    @FunnyBecauseItsTrue 16 днів тому +2

    ...damn, I'm so happy to see this!
    ...what is that microphone you are using?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  16 днів тому

      Do you mean to record my videos? No, I use a Lauten Audio (LS 208 I believe, I'm not by it now...)

    • @FunnyBecauseItsTrue
      @FunnyBecauseItsTrue 15 днів тому

      @@loopop no, I mean the microphone that is on camera, plugged into the Soectravox…

    • @loopop
      @loopop  15 днів тому

      @@FunnyBecauseItsTrueI think I got it with the workshop Spectravox 5 years ago - it might also be the one that came with KingKorg Neo

  • @BloodCastle99
    @BloodCastle99 17 днів тому +6

    A 4th one!!! Def gotta start buying these 4 modules soon! Zzounds here I come!

  • @williamfraize3707
    @williamfraize3707 17 днів тому +2

    The ghost of Roger Troutman now grows restless...

  • @RobertKgma
    @RobertKgma 14 днів тому

    If this had a spread control (dial and cv) for the filter frequencies then this would be an instant buy for me. An envelope on that can create all kinds of drum sounds.

  • @benluff6079
    @benluff6079 17 днів тому +1

    lush sounds

  • @screamingstrings76
    @screamingstrings76 17 днів тому +8

    Damn, really wasn't expecting this one! I have fun with the op1f vocoder every once in a while but i'm not Mike Dean enough to have one of these haha

    • @Chikeko_Lee
      @Chikeko_Lee 16 днів тому +1

      Mike Dean uses this Moog?

  • @obione74
    @obione74 17 днів тому +2

    Great video as always, thanks! Why not do a “stereo” video with the 2024 and the 2019 version side by side. Just a thought 😊

    • @loopop
      @loopop  16 днів тому +1

      Excellent idea! I mean a video isn’t likely but that sure solves the problem of Spectravox not being in stereo!

  • @ManCalledMif
    @ManCalledMif 17 днів тому

    YES🎉

  • @giuseppeferrara6384
    @giuseppeferrara6384 День тому

    Love you're vidéos man ! I have a keystep 37 and a moog D-FAM. Is it possible to control the pitch of the VCO of teh DFAM with the Keystep chromaticaly like you do on 3:30. ? (i Saw you're tutorial of the keystep by the way, very usseful :))

    • @loopop
      @loopop  День тому

      Sure - check out this video too: ua-cam.com/video/znkYpL-u_pY/v-deo.html

  • @markhudson9074
    @markhudson9074 17 днів тому +2

    Damn, I need to save up again😅

  • @e-conrecords4665
    @e-conrecords4665 16 днів тому +1

    Not feeling it but kudos to MOOG for trying something different.

  • @GlitchComputer
    @GlitchComputer 16 днів тому

    So is this pretty much like the MURF but as a euro rack unit?

  • @davidgoode7416
    @davidgoode7416 12 днів тому

    Curious to see what you'd do with this paired with DFAM

  • @alphabeets
    @alphabeets 16 днів тому +3

    What exactly does it mean when he said that Moog sent him this unit but no money was exchanged? Does it mean he gets to keep the review unit for himself and could thus sell it for money?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  16 днів тому

      Yes, as I say in the beginning of the video they sent it to me and "other than that no money changed hands". Indeed I can sell it, which is why I mention it in the beginning of the video so you can decide whether to watch or not.

    • @kierenmoore3236
      @kierenmoore3236 5 днів тому

      Yes - it is better (more clear) than his old ‘disclaimer’, at least … Probably due to comments like this.

  • @giorgosgargalas9164
    @giorgosgargalas9164 16 днів тому

    How I can have the dry signal from the mic with the wet of the spectra moog synth? Do I need two mics? (For.beatboxing)

    • @loopop
      @loopop  16 днів тому

      Yes you can through the program output but you'll need to mix it somewhere else, there's no mixer here

  • @DVDFRMN
    @DVDFRMN 17 днів тому

    excellent demo. i was thinking this wasn't for me, i have a Vocoder, but that wonderful marimba and the other wild stuff has sold it to me....

  • @josbouten
    @josbouten 16 днів тому

    The 'hold' function suggests that the device in 'free'-mode uses a free running (i.e. continuously updating) sample&hold function to control the VCAs for the carrier signal bands, and in hold mode this will keep the last sampled envelope follower output values for each band pass filter fixed. That implies that the VCAs are controlled on a clocked basis. Is this audible in any way?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  16 днів тому +1

      Hold doesn't touch the VCAs directly, it indeed "sample and holds" the envelope followers, and yes it's audible for sure on any program audio (you can trigger hold in the patch bay)

  • @imola8
    @imola8 14 днів тому +1

    Cool that moog is coming up with new ideas ❤ guess we‘ll hear a lot of vocoder heavy tracks in future. However this device is not for me.

  • @tihinter
    @tihinter 15 днів тому

    Would be highly interested in the sonic differences to the Moog 16ch vocoder. Despite targetting a different buyers group.

  • @ManCalledMif
    @ManCalledMif 17 днів тому

    12:02 I suppose two spectra voxes connected with a stereo y splitter cable would allow stereo processing

  • @pihenhenripi4430
    @pihenhenripi4430 17 днів тому

    It’s like a make noise qpas ? But mono , with more filters

  • @Cysubtor_8vb
    @Cysubtor_8vb 17 днів тому +1

    Definitely interesting, but, already having several devices with vocoder effects that I ignore, I feel like I would quickly drop the spectral aspect and merely use it as a low pass filter 😂

  • @RealityShiftUK
    @RealityShiftUK 8 днів тому

    hoping this will go nicely with my key step pro and d fam! hmm which one to pair first ...

  • @FrankPSF
    @FrankPSF 12 днів тому

    Ziv I have a question. I am trying to wrap my head around the Spectravox and I wonder how similar it is to say a Tiptop 296t or a Fumama or similar modules?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  11 днів тому

      That's an excellent question! I've never tried the 296t - it has been a while since I explored Fumana so I don't want to just give a half-ass response. I might try and get my hands on the 296t at some point and then answer that!

    • @FrankPSF
      @FrankPSF 11 днів тому

      @@loopop Thank you for the reply. I'll be eagerly awaiting that video!!! Peace and thank you for who you are and what you do for the synth community!

  • @super-ulitka
    @super-ulitka 15 днів тому +1

    Kinda strange to want it but have no idea how to incorporate it in 😅 Maybe later!

  • @MrHihowryou
    @MrHihowryou 16 днів тому +1

    Does this mean they will bring back the 2, 3 & 4 tier tracks?? I mean come onnnnnn moog!

  • @trukxelf
    @trukxelf 17 днів тому

    Does the power supply stay with the enclosure when front panel is removed?

    • @robthebloke
      @robthebloke 17 днів тому +1

      I’d assume the answer is yes - like all the others

  • @beguile302
    @beguile302 16 днів тому +1

    Not sure if it was just a happy accident or not, but I ❤ the @OmriCohen-Music patch cord colors in the first patch, yellow for pitch and blue for gates 🤘Great video as always!

    • @loopop
      @loopop  16 днів тому

      Thanks! No, just an accident, I just use different colors to help me (and viewers) figure out what's going where

  • @EcoCentrist
    @EcoCentrist 15 днів тому

    psychadelic bass music generator. cool af

  • @garylappier136
    @garylappier136 13 днів тому

    Hello! I was wondering what microphone you are using in the demo?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  13 днів тому +2

      It’s either the one I got with the original Spectravox in 2019 or the one bundled with King Korg Neo, I don’t remember sorry

  • @AUTOKAPUTT
    @AUTOKAPUTT 17 днів тому +1

    Uuuuuuuuuuuuuh ❤❤❤

  • @adamjackpartington8068
    @adamjackpartington8068 14 днів тому

    What if you plug the output into the input?

  • @user-xy7bh4ym4e
    @user-xy7bh4ym4e 13 днів тому

    Deep and Dark

  • @Rondoggy67
    @Rondoggy67 15 днів тому

    Oh sh!t, another thing I want to buy

  • @geusensdriesmusic
    @geusensdriesmusic 17 днів тому +1

    Very nice, but missing individual filter outputs and those plastic pots are just so cheap. Easy enough to fit a splined pot with micro knob (same footprint).

  • @martinfox9443
    @martinfox9443 17 днів тому

    U on it this week ❤

  • @andyscott2626
    @andyscott2626 14 днів тому

    omg. where do you even store all this kit? 😜

  • @AppleKid
    @AppleKid 16 днів тому

    keep on truck'n

  • @MatsueMusic
    @MatsueMusic 17 днів тому +14

    TWO VIDEOS IN ONE DAY.....Am I dying?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  17 днів тому +22

      ummm there's one more coming right up

    • @spaceman103
      @spaceman103 17 днів тому +2

      @@loopopbeware of a burnout…..😅

    • @pascaljean2333
      @pascaljean2333 17 днів тому +1

      ​😮@@loopop

    • @loopop
      @loopop  17 днів тому +7

      @@spaceman103thanks I’m aware of that which is why there aren’t even more than 4 videos this week…

    • @DVDFRMN
      @DVDFRMN 17 днів тому

      your bank balance is...

  • @darkdialect
    @darkdialect 17 днів тому

    Where does that "á-é-í-ó" and "jo" come from...?
    Where are from sir Loopop?

  • @sundaymorningmassradioshow8624
    @sundaymorningmassradioshow8624 16 днів тому +12

    Cant wait for behringer clone 😅

    • @frallorfrallor3410
      @frallorfrallor3410 16 днів тому +2

      Behringer Will clone it😂

    • @MrGijser
      @MrGijser 16 днів тому

      It might not be as easy as one might expect it is subjected to patents.

    • @snorrevonflake
      @snorrevonflake 16 днів тому

      @@frallorfrallor3410 2035

    • @LosingTeeth
      @LosingTeeth 16 днів тому

      I'll buy

    • @pomprocks
      @pomprocks 16 днів тому

      @@MrGijser What patents would those be? There are many spectral processors available.

  • @KurtLorenz
    @KurtLorenz 17 днів тому

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