(57)The Nimitz Class, Early Design History
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
- In today's episode of Truth OR Myth Beta, we're taking a look at the Nimitz Classes Design History. This is pretty much an entirely fictional narrative created by yours truly, so I hope you enjoy!
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Not a big fan of some of the disco designs but the Nimitz is actually a really lovely looking ship
Absolutely 100% Agree :)
If she had the proper round nacelles of that time the design would be perfect
There is no such thing as "Proper Round Nacelles" Actually Canon supports the Idea that the Round Nacelles of the Connie Class are the unusual design element of the time, as it's one of the ONLY classes seen in that time with them, and also, Starfleet goes back to the Box Design in TMP...
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics That's cause by TMP the Federation and Klingons were pretty much getting ready for a possible conflict and practicality was preferred over looks.
@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent That's a HUGE assumption on your part, with NOTHING in canon to support that idea what so ever... Also, your theory if true, could travel both way, as in DSC times the Feds were expanding in to Deep Space, and so Boxy Nacelles it is as practicality was preferred over looks ;) :P
When the ship was moved from the front line I suppose that due to the large hangar space it could easily be reclassified as a "red shirt" transporter or an evacuation ship. Also I see it in simple cargo role for peaceful frontier worlds.
Makes perfect sense to me, at least for a little while :)
Ayo not gonna lie nimitz class looks like a miranda class it's just an older one because at the time I'm pretty sure the miranda would be in drawing board or early testing meaning only a few would be in production u think
Gotta say i really like the Nimitz class it almost looks like a 4 nacelled version of the Miranda. and i really can't get enough of the red trim we see on both the Nimitz and the walker, really makes them pop on screen.
I'd love to see some sort of "Starfleet Museum", which shows all the preserved prototype or experimental vessels. I still cannot accept that they jump from drawing board to full ship-class implementation...
At first glance, it looks like a very modified NX0- Class with 4 Nacelles! Nice story!
My Favorite of the disco era. Such a beauty!
It is gorgeous!
I love the use of the Nimitz name for a space carrier.
Nimitz class designers "so, do you want the nacelles above or below the saucer section?"
Starfleet "yes"
Nimitz class designers "oooooh one of those types then.... you've got it"
LOL
ASDB: We look for ships to make us go!
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I have always been lukewarm on this design but I will admit that I like what STO did for it. Another great episode!
Fair enough! And thanks Eugenio :)
" Damn fine ship If you ask me." - Montgomery Scott
I've always liked these style of ships think they look so much more interesting than the standard star ships.
I do too :)
is just me or does it look like the upper "roll bar" and nacelles can separate into an emergency second ship? sorta like the Galaxy Class saucer but with warp capabilities?
It's just you :P ;)
Thank you so much for doing these programs fprograms for people like me to watch I used to be so excited about starships and the like with star trek and you're bringing that back some for me there's little in life to enjoy but this is one thing that I'm going to spoil myself with thank you again!
Its like you slapped together a Miranda and a NX-01 together with some extra nacelles.
I like it, seems almost efficient in volume to size and reasonably small profile. Shockingly sensible for Starfleet.
Just gonna say I told you I would be here and I am here! But hey the guy got he's wish for the nimitz class this is awesome Riccardo Gemme got he's wish good on him
First time for everything :) :P
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics And a last time.
@@MovieMagic515 lol no more special requests
As I have said for decades, four nacelles is simply better than two. More flexibility, more redundancy, and more efficient. My only real dislike about the overall design is the 'cut outs' of the saucer section. There is no real reason for them, and they break up the overall 'look' of the saucer in general. Also, they complicate the layout of the ship's corridors and turbolift system. The additional 'cube-age' gained would be used for additional systems, redundant systems, and other back ups, in addition to making the ship 'look' better.
For it's time period, just before the Constitution Class, a Warp 6 ship was a 'must have' for Star Fleet. The ability to take more combat damage overall, before being driven out of combat due to degradation of the ship's systems made the Nimitz Class a very good choice.
So true. The cut out would weaken the structure and honestly, it just looks bad
Of all discovery ship the ships I like the most and also have eaglemoss of is walker, Nimitz, and cardenas
I Love ALL the above :)
🖖😎👍Very nicely well done indeed and very well informatively explained and executed in every detail and every way possible, p.s. I have the Eaglemoss model of this ship as well as other Discovery designed starship's 👌...
I love this ship! Thank you
I'm glad you like it
I served on Nimitz class aircraft carrier US Navy. Sharing 4 propulsion units; 4 nacelles here, 4 propeller shafts IRL.
I absolutely love the look of this nimitz-class. It might have something to do with the fact that I served on a nimitz-class aircraft carrier in the Navy but I still think the aesthetic is great.
Nice commentary on the beta cannon.
Thank you so much David :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Anytime, hope to see more beta canon information on the starship class of 2256.
Yes I would. Thank you. 🖖
Thank you Joseph!
Thank you for this awesome look at the Nimitz class ship it looks to be an awesome ship i would love to command one of those
I love the design :) And you're welcome :)
I really like the Nimitz Class. It answers my question of qhat was the top Ship of the Lime before the Constitution Class. (Which is still my favorite along with the "Refit" design)
The Nimitz class is a really interesting looking design for a Starship
I love you so so much and this channel thanks for all your work ... thank you so much
i love learning about early starfleet and starship history. 1.6 something thousandth like
Excellent video as usual 💪🏼💯 looking forward to the next one 👍
Thank you Marcus, more to come :)
Your Beta Canon videos are actually quite remarkable. If one did not know that these were your own thoughts as you stated in the opening, you would actually believe that you were reading from a Trek history book. Yours is superior (Joachim).
Peace and long life 🖖🏼
Great video! Never thought I would like discovery designs:)
Surprise! :P Time changes everything ;) :P
More! More of everything you do! I love you!
LOL Thanks Chase :) LOL
yes I would like to see more of it
Your one of my favorites thank you for your hard work
I'm fond of several DISCOVERY designs...the Nimitz, however, left me cold. It was seeing it in videos like this that gave me a better look, and it is damned pretty! :)
I love it!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics I'm glad to hear it! There's a feeling this show may have a feeling of coming full circle.
I wanted to say thanks again, by the way. I may have said it before, but just about anyone can summarize. It takes talent and imagination to create plausible and compelling content within the universe. You do it damned well...thanks again:)
Lol i didnt care for discovery too much but its constitution-class redesign was awesome!
Yay! I’m first viewer and commenter!! I love all of your vids! Thank you!!
Well thank you SO much for the support! Really appreciate it Zayrobable :)
I'm enjoying these stories
Thank you so much Andrew :)
The Nimitz should of been refitted to being an escort ship that way they could of kept it on active duty but you know how things go when they get new technology they completely replace something that's a little old. Thanks for this video.
Great source of information!
Thank you Tim :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics dude keep them coming please, imma loving all "and Stellaris Trek I'm just coming out of the Enterprise era"
I like the look of the Nimitz class better than the Cardenas class, although I really thought that one was nice too. The tighter placement of the nacelles on the Nimitz is, to me, more symetrical and clean.
I agree with the idea of having four nacelles for safety reasons, those nacelles get destroyed a lot so it makes sense. I love the withdrawn design, it feels more dangerous, like a beast rearing up to attack.
I'd like to see videos on the Norway and New Orleans class.
Dont worry, they are both on my to do list :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics looking forward to seeing those! Keep up the great work!
Thank you! I shall do my best :)
Thanks
The Nimitz has a bit of a Miranda vibe, if you were to swap the nacelles out and a couple of other details it would fit right in the TOS Movie era.
I know this has been a long time coming, but finally got round to reviewing your video.
While I personallly dislike the Discovery, some of the ships of the era before it jumped to the future were really interesting, the Nimitz class, Shepard class, Walker Class, and of course the constitution class, are all my favourites, I have all these ships except the constitution class of this era in STO but there are some amazing ships besides that one so its not really one I miss, and besides, the Walker class you can get from the go is awesome...
The Nimitz class, I thought would be next in line after the Cardenas class personally, just basing it on size, but I suppose it is more advanced with the ship being a tad smaller and technology being more efficiently utilised and not require as much space (unless they have those horrid empty spaces for turbolift rides).
I am really glad the Nimitz was fitted with sustained phaser beam banks, and not the horrid pew pew pew ones, i really hated those, I like my ships to have beams, not intermittent bolts, to me its so not Starfleet standard.
Yes in the Enterprise pilot, the NX-01 had pulse phaser cannons I think but later had the sustained beams, so I am really glad the Nimitz was fitted with the better weapons, it is a shame we never got to see it in action though.
The Nmitz didnt have the sort of main reception desk for a transporter room, as seen at 7:16 definitely making the space aboard more efficient as technology developed and by that time the lateral systems were outdated, I think that was mentioned as well in one of the episodes, I can't recall.
The Holographic systems, well nobody can argue about those as didn't the constitution class have holo-simulators aboard? I am sure it is in the ship schematics somewhere.
Wasn't it in the Enterprise finale where Reed mentions about the new warp 7 engines? surely he Nimitz being much later on from the Enterprise era would have had at least warp 7 as a maximum warp, or am I wrong?
The Nimitz class is a wonderful looking ship, and one I am pround to have in my ship collection on STO, it is a puty it isnt a carrier, given he large shuttlebay, but we can't have everything can we?
Great video, glad I finally got round to reviewing it, keep up the great work and the beta canon series
I wanna know where that heaping hunk of crap the Hoover Class came from. Talk about leftover parts.
Well eventually Ill get there :)
Cover your ears U.S.S. Edison! You don't need to hear this!
Instead of a design history video about the inquiry class, how about one that's about the dreadnought class from the kelvin timeline?
Both are on my to do list :) Just be patient :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics What I meant was you could do a design video about the dreadnought class instead of the inquiry class because we know more about the dreadnought class than the inquiry class. And please, take your time.:)
Theres actually enough information to do Beta Canon videos on both :)
I disliked this ship till now. Your detailed portrait gives me a new appreciation it for it's aesthetic. Bravo!
Ah, here we are.
Here we are indeed :)
Αnother awesome video! :)
Thank you good sir :)
Will you eventually be getting to the 25th Century versions of the Disco ships seen in STO?
Im considering it yes :)
Of all the Disco-era ships, this has to be my favorite design. Basically a Miranda with an NX deflector and two extra nacelles slapped on. It *looks* more Starfleet than the Crossfield in my opinion.
Indeed it does, as the Crossfield Class, Like The Defiant Class, was an experiment outside the box for Starfleet :)
Hello my Friendamy from Canada!
LOL Hello! Thanks for stopping by to ruin my day ;) :P
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics 👋😁✌🖖
Good-looking ship. I prefer it to the TOS Enterprise, to be honest.
It's a Gorgeous Design! :)
So...is that the bridge up on top of the, um, bridge?
(Whatever the answer, I do very much like the look of this ship.)
when you realize that "Saucer" Sections have been subtly trolling Aliens for centuries....
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Vesta class please.
Whose Discovery-verse Enterprise is that with the straight (not angled) nacelle pylons? It’s beautiful
There is no DSC-Verse, it's merely the Prime Timeline, and it's mine, obviously!
Hope this class had a secondary bridge becuz if that’s the bridge on the roll bar it screams target me
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Doesn't it look like there is a second ship sitting right on the top of the ship?
She's a Beauty!
Indeed she is :)
One of my new favorites
Niice :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics let me know if you ever come across what her Weaponry is or her fighter, shuttlecraft compliment is thank you
And the Nimitz class carrier!
I thought holodeck tech was not used shipboard until the connies started being decommissioned?
Obviously not since we saw it in 2256 on Discovery! :P
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Oh so retconned. Got ya.
Not really as no where in canon did it EVER say "holodeck tech was not used shipboard until the connies started being decommissioned" that's just an assumption you made!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Ok I can accept that.
Funny thing is that when I think of the Nimitz class, I think of the class of 10 nuclear powered aircraft carriers. From the USS Nimitz (CVN-68) to the USS George H W Bush (CVN-77).
Now explain star-date, please.
What is the song used for the intro
All the songs in every video come from UA-cams Royalty Free Music Library!
Another interesting low profile Disco era design that I appreciate. My main complaint with that era design though is how you don't see much in terms of design lineage connecting Enterprise to TOS, or beyond. You see similar design profiles but not much of an evolutionary reason for how they got from those 2 points. They just jumped from that low profile look to suddenly adding in a larger engineering hull.
Thank you so much! Though, I have the opposite opinion, seeing a clear lineage of starships branching from the NX Class... And since we havent really seen any other true Connie Style starships through out TOS, and given Kirks comments in Tomorrow is Yesterday, I tend to view the Connie Style as the exception, the special case, rather then the rule of the time 🙂
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Interesting, so the Constitution class is the first time Starfleet introduced a larger engineering section. Its definitely not out of the norm, the Defiant was a major break from typical Starfleet design philosophy.
Not the first time, but certainly the exception, rather then the rule at that time!
If I didn't know better, this Nimitz class ship seems to be a rather quiet attempt to have a combat capable ship with all of the upgrades to it's tactical warfare systems. But that just my opinion.
Soooooo, basically just like the video says? :P
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics I was actually trying to say it was the beginning of a warship, but that might have triggered some Star Trek "Peace and Long Life" fanatics. Hehe.
I think it makes more sense for this era of ships to be built around the 2190s-2200s. That way the USS Kelvin era ships, which are cannon since they were built before the Narada split the timeline, would have been built around 2220s-2230s, then that would place the Constitution class era would be in 2250s.
This makes more sense seeing how Starfleet seems to redesign it's ships about every 20-30 years. The Discovery and Kelvin era ships would fit perfectly between the NX-01 Enterprise era in the 2160s, filling the gap with Discovery era in the 2190s, Kelvin era in the 2220s, Original series Constitution era in the 2250s, Constitution Refit era in the 2270s, Excelsior class era in the 2290s, Ambassador class era in the 2320s, Galaxy Class era in the 2350s, Sovereign Class era in the 2370s, and finally Inquiry Class era in the 2390s.
I dont, I think it's perfectly placed!
One of the very few Disco ships I actually like.
I like most of Disco's ship designs so far.. when we can see them... My biggest grip is that I do not at all like the hull discoloration. The blocky shapes, stunted profiles, and a general lack of secondary hulls are very clear and simple visual cues that this predates the Connies. The discoloration does not add to that feeling, instead, due to the shows lighting and manic camera focus, it makes the entire fleet look really really dirty. Like they are all about to rust into pieces, or are ancient in their own time!
Enough about the bad, now the good! The Nimitz is far and away my favorite design of the era! I love the profile, it feel very powerful, without being colossal, or kinda goofy as the old beta canon FASA made ships can look. The raised bridge looks very practical and striking, for the conceit of having an exposed bridge. The swooping intakes on the saucer section, blend really well into the bussard collectors of the upper pair of nacelle. And as always, love the video, and your fanon. If I ever get to run a STA campaign, I'll be sure to use it as part of my game!
The only that I don't really like about the Nimitz class is that it wasn't made to be a carrier to honor the classes history on Earth
But in essence it was, like the video explains, with it's oversized Shuttlebay!
Uss vengence please
Be patient, it's coming!
Where does the Ares fit in this timeline?
It doesnt, as that is merely a piece of fan fiction with a fan design! And it doesnt fit with canon at all...
Love the videos ... one small comment,you cannot reduce anything by more then 100% ... so a 900% reduction would be quite far fetched even for Star Trek!
It was just a recording mistake, I suppose Im just not perfect! :P
How can a transporter use 900% less pwer than the previous model? If you reduced it by 100% that's already using nothing. is it generating energy now?
Yeah, you're kinda late to the game here but It was a mistake i made in audio recording... It should have been 90 and I just didnt catch it... Oh well 1 mistake in over 500 vids, not bad ;) :P
I'm liking these design videos. But if the new transporters were using 900% less power, wouldn't they be generating power rather than using it? I'll assume you ment 90%.
Yes it was a misread during recording, mistakes happen sometimes! Guess Im just not perfect...
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Happens to the best of us. Loving your work.
It's a small part of the video and it shouldn't bother me as much as it does but you can't reduce power consumption more than 100%. If you do then the transporters become generators. Otherwise great video.
A simple mistake when recording the script, It was supposed to be 90% and I just didnt catch it... Guess Im just not perfect...
I’m not sure you shouting your great scripts over the cacophonous noise of the soundtrack is a great idea.
A) Not Shouting, B) Out of 100's of Thousands of comments and Millions of Views, you're the only person to ever say anything like that... I would suggest that this is a "you" problem as such! But thanks for the feedback!
For all of Discovery's flaws, there are some ship designs I like. This is one of them.
The Yorktown class Battleships could hit Warp 7
You're talking about the Video Game Star Trek Legacy? Well of course the design isnt Alpha Canon, and since it's stats are for a video game, they arent really reliable at all...
I think the warp engines are too close to the house...
I dont!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics it's okay if you don't agree with me but I believe there is reason the engines are out and away from the hall...
There isnt! See USS Defiant (DS9)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics the defiant is entirely different and refined design. They are not not the average warp engines
You can say that about this design too... But your explanation doesnt explain all the others such as the Oberth and NX Intrepid Designs! There IS no reason!
Not a bad design but I have the same issue with this that I have with all discovery designs. they don't fit the established canon of what we knew this era looked like for 50 years before the show debuted. It tried and failed to be both a prequal and a BSG style from the ground up reboot at the same time and did neither well at all. the ONLY way Discovery designs make sense (to me, your experience may differ) is that the entire Starfleet was made up of designs from the very early 2200s from before Starfleet settled on a specific design lineage (see Daedalus & constellation classes class for examples of star fleet ships that don't look like they usually do) that got gradually phased out in the 2250's by the Fasa designs ala Locknar class as well as the Miranda class and the Connie TMP refit when the discovery designs couldn't handle the might of the Imperial Klingon navy due to their age and inability to keep up with the latest and greatest advanced technology. Which in the late 2260's ten years later was a problem even the constitution class, the jewel of the fleet, could no longer ignore.
Im sorry, but you're incorrect on all fronts... There is NO canon for this time period before DSC... So making the comment "they don't fit the established canon of what we knew this era looked like for 50 years before the show debuted," Is disingenuous. What you actually mean is it doesnt fit what you BELIEVED to be the aesthetic for this time period. And you were simply wrong about it.
Daedalus Classes were long gone before this design, replaced with DSC Classes like Malacowski and Walker Classes. It all makes absolute sense in Starship Lineage. As the fleet would begin the boxy looking warp nacelles, would try something new for the Constitution Class and ultimately go back to the Boxy Style, see TMP...
FASA designs are not canon. And although you want them to be, Canon always outweighs Beta Canon... So overall you've really got nothing but an incorrect assumption you made which is now trumped by actual canon! It's like those people that once believed the Earth was flat, before they were actually shown it wasnt...
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics fundamentally disagree on all points. Discovery is only 10 years before TOS and is supposed to Be in the same universe and continuity. It should look exactly the same as 60s star trek since tng and ds9 have both established that's what that era of Starfleet looked like
First, again you're incorrect... DSC takes place 10 years before TOS, and IS in the same universe whether you like it or not. And in the end, that's all that matters, so you need to get over it :) Move on (Thread CLOSED- No further Comments will appear)
PS, thank you for correcting your mistake of how how many years DSC is supposed to take before TOS :) ;)
900% less power draw means the the transporter actually produces 800% of the old transporters power draw , a 100% less would be 0 power draw
Actually, it depends from which side you're measuring it! If you're measuring it from the Lat Vec Side than you would be correct... But not, as this video is doing, if you are measuring from the New Transporter System side!
Couldn't set through it. Music way too loud.
Sorry you had that experience, but no one else had that problem...
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Your probably right. :) It's more than likely just me.
Jeff Bezos in obviously not interested in ending world hunger or fighting climate change . Or doing anything beneficial to humanity . But he should want to produce an Amazon Prime series set in a Nimitz Class starship !
No way that ship has 25 decks
And yet it did!
Not a bad looking design. The holo training system kind of annoys me as I'm fairly certain that level of holo tech should not exist in that timeframe.
Actually it Does, Did and Should! A more advanced version of what we see in DSC exists on the Enterprise in the Animated Series Episode The Practical Joker Circa 2268. So since it exists in canon as it does then, it makes sense that a less advanced version would exist in 2256... So you dont need to be annoyed anymore :)