The Sparring advice I wish they gave me ten years ago...

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  • @AngelChernaevHistoricalFencing
    @AngelChernaevHistoricalFencing 2 роки тому +24

    The bigger issue for me is that some people never try any other type of sparring. They always play only "for the win". And while I do agree with your point in this case, IME trying other types of sparring with specific objectives(known or not by your opponent) is a very important way to train.
    Additionally when playing with someone with drastically less experience, playing for the win can be detrimental, as they might not be able to comprehend their gaps.

    • @FedericoMalagutti
      @FedericoMalagutti  2 роки тому +10

      Definitely!
      If you are in an environment which already follow this simple rule, then try to discuss about trying out specific kind of sparring. Multiple hits, restricted actions and possibilities etc.

  • @MartinGreywolf
    @MartinGreywolf 2 роки тому +12

    I'd say there is exactly one caveat where this doesn't apply, and that is when someone is sparring an opponent far below their skill level and trying to teach them something. Of course, at that point we could well argue that this isn't sparring, just a slightly adversarial drill.
    Outside of that, yeah, when you go easy on someone in sparring in this way, you're doing them a disservice.

  • @felicianofrontado3134
    @felicianofrontado3134 2 роки тому +12

    Awesome video as always Federico. This topic made me think about how often I hit and "score" a point but forget to position myself defensively after attacking. Would love a video on the subject. Have a great day Fede !

    • @FedericoMalagutti
      @FedericoMalagutti  2 роки тому +5

      Definitely, I'll try to do a video on the subject soon, it's a good topic.

  • @galenmarek2765
    @galenmarek2765 2 роки тому +5

    Thank you for this video, as someone with limited access to clubs your videos are always so helpful and insightful.

  • @Tsurukiri
    @Tsurukiri 2 роки тому +1

    I see it like this:
    - Solo practice of set techniques, speed, endurance (repetition of techniques without opponent, against a pell for example)
    - Paired practice of set techniques, speed, endurance (here you always know what the opponent will do and vice versa)
    - Sparring (application of techniques under study, but only when opponent gives you the relevant opportunity)
    - Fighting (find the best way to win and apply any technique you know)

  • @ilyaboba710
    @ilyaboba710 2 роки тому +1

    I would partially disagree.
    For me, the main goal of sparrings is to become better and have fun. That helps me to grow. If you just execute the same one or two technics that work over and over it doesn't help much you to grow. And it also might not help your opponent if she or he is slower or less experienced.
    So, stopping hitting hands might be not a kind of kindness but just a decision to have more fun or try new things.

  • @TannithVQ
    @TannithVQ 2 роки тому +1

    At my HEMA club, after we spare we discuss. We are finding this helps us to think about bettering our approach

  • @rakatika
    @rakatika 2 роки тому +3

    I definitely used this when I was teaching my friend to play better at Super Smash Bros 4. I encouraged his skill growth while developing my own without pulling punches. A real Ryu and Ken situation.

  • @Dominator046
    @Dominator046 2 роки тому +1

    Congratulations on 10k soon!
    Love watching your content, and hearing your perspectives!

  • @spencerpalmer2918
    @spencerpalmer2918 2 роки тому

    Thanks

  • @SchildwachePotsdam
    @SchildwachePotsdam 2 роки тому +10

    Only 70 to go! :) Nice video once again, even if I wouldn't agree with the approach. If person A establishes a weakness in person B's game and keeps pushing that, both wont have a lot to learn. B will probably need an environment with less pressure than free fencing to work on that gap. A will be in the comfort zone (meaning success rates of 90% and above for example), which won't create growth. Anyway, I can see how one needs to abandon this mindset if the context is not training, but a competition - which is harder if you never train in that way.

    • @FedericoMalagutti
      @FedericoMalagutti  2 роки тому +4

      Well I think you are imagining a very specific case here. Namely a very unskilled new practitioner facing someone who is far above his level exploiting its inability to react, which admittedly in that case would be true for every tactic and technique, no matter the typology of the action.
      While here I’m talking about the average, which is people training more or less at the same level with the goal to improve. Even if there’s a unbalance in the level of the fighters this rule remains true, as it’s far easier to the inexperienced to figure out one problem instead of 100.
      If the fencer isn’t good enough to spar then I suppose this whole advice and discussion is not for him.

    • @FedericoMalagutti
      @FedericoMalagutti  2 роки тому +5

      And also, I would say that in competition this may be a bad habit. Exploiting twice an opening in a row against a reasonably experienced opponent is more than enough.
      So constantly changing or slightly modifying/building on top of previous successful actions with additional feints may be a good idea. While instead hitting with the same technique many times happens, again, when the level of the fencers is different in a relevant way.

  • @mushus001
    @mushus001 2 роки тому +1

    Très belle réflexion !
    C'est une bonne piste pour progresser et faire progresser son partenaire.
    Bonne continuation 😃.

  • @caseydubois3645
    @caseydubois3645 2 роки тому

    This will definitely help my sparring! When I eventually find someone to regularly spar with...

  • @TyLarson
    @TyLarson 2 роки тому

    Good advice.

  • @Davlavi
    @Davlavi 2 роки тому +2

    interesting

  • @TheTomconroy
    @TheTomconroy Рік тому

    I was just talking with my instructor about this the other day. Not hands but i win a lot of points with thrusts. I got to the point where i would like to win more points with good clean cuts but the thrust always presents its self. So i said i would stop landing thrusts but i guess I'll go back and let them stop letting me. Thanks

  • @timhema5343
    @timhema5343 2 роки тому +4

    Interesting approach, but for once, I disagree !
    Of course it depends on the objective of the sparring session, but if I see an obvious gap in my opponent behaviour, I will hit him there 2, maybe 3 times, and I will make him notice this thing at the end.
    If I get hit multiple times in the same way, maybe I will notice that I have a problem, but I won't be able to fix it on the spot, in the heat of the moment.
    I will achieve better success after I cool down and analyze what was happening.
    If I'm the one hitting, I risk to get in a comfort zone and not learn a lot.
    The only case I consider it's a good thing is in a competitive situation. If it ain't broke, don't fix it !

    • @FedericoMalagutti
      @FedericoMalagutti  2 роки тому +1

      See what I wrote under the Martin’s comment! Thanks for sharing your own experience;-)

  • @Vindrows
    @Vindrows 2 роки тому

    👍

  • @felix.der.ritter
    @felix.der.ritter 2 роки тому +1

    what is your opinion on eren in AoT?

    • @FedericoMalagutti
      @FedericoMalagutti  2 роки тому +3

      Based on the Anime or the manga? Because I don’t want to spoil

    • @felix.der.ritter
      @felix.der.ritter 2 роки тому

      @@FedericoMalagutti The Anime :)
      I think he got crazy

    • @FedericoMalagutti
      @FedericoMalagutti  Рік тому +1

      @@felix.der.ritter i noticed the answer only now hehe, well, I would have answered “yes” ;-)

  • @csrw29
    @csrw29 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you for your videos! My opponents and training partners are not limited to men, I guess that yours aren’t either. Would you be willing to use ‘they’ and ‘their’ instead of ‘he’ and ‘his’? By contrast, it would be very odd to only use ‘she’ and ‘hers’!!

  • @alexhunt7810
    @alexhunt7810 Рік тому +1

    Disclaimer: This is very much a club fencer POV.
    Respectfully, this is a fairly poor take. People learn from defeats, yes, in the sense that they go away, reflect on it and then improve. What they don't do as a general rule is magically develop as fencer's mid-bout.
    Now, a decent fencer can fall prey to complacency and need to be shocked out of it, but if you're fencing someone and you're repeatedly beating down on them over and over and over again with a technique, then there is likely a skill gap, and no, they aren't going to learn from constantly getting pummelled by you - and you're not going to get better as a fencer by doing the same easy technique over and over again.
    The absolute most considerate thing you can do there is stop the bout, explain what you're doing, and suggest a method of counterfencing it. *That* will help your partner develop as a fencer. You can video the exchange to let your opponent review both your techniques and examine the mechanics. Both of these are a clart on. Otherwise, yes, trying new techniques is a good, thoughtful thing - because it means that you as a fencer will have to use other skills, and your opponent can actually work on other techniques - or at least, be beaten in a new and interesting way. Repeatedly bopping your foe on the head and hands over and over and over again isn't necessarily going to teach them anything in itself.

    • @FedericoMalagutti
      @FedericoMalagutti  Рік тому

      Well, I disagree! Hehe!
      Anyway every situation must be considered by itself by the instructor, while instead the fence may do whatever they want, but the best way of conduct is the above one. Sure can give advices, definitely. Or stab the other guy in “another interesting way” - but if there’s a skill gap it will be there anyway, the chance of learning how to solve one problem while being outperformed compared to solving five problems is much higher, and it’s actually an act of kindness if the partner wants to improve. If the partner instead wants to have some fun after getting back to work and that’s it, then the attitude may be different, in that case it’s also possible to talk for 50% of the training time without any issue because the goal is different. If the goal is to improve and to improve fast then the above approach is better, even if some people may see it as “bullying” by misunderstanding what is meant to achieve.

    • @alexhunt7810
      @alexhunt7810 Рік тому

      @@FedericoMalagutti most people don't improve mid-bout.
      This is the equivalent of an exam where the moment a student fails a question, they're asked it again and again until they either answer it or they give up. It's not helpful to either fencer.

    • @FedericoMalagutti
      @FedericoMalagutti  Рік тому +1

      @@alexhunt7810 in fencing you can create a solution, sometimes just stepping backward is a way to fix 90% of problems, maybe not the best but a very easy to conceive and perform, which stops receiving the same problem.
      At an exam, you can’t create the solution for “Tell me about the Punic wars” or “write me how to find out the area of a triangle” because this things has to be studied before and follow a precise pattern, even if they may vary in some ways.

    • @alexhunt7810
      @alexhunt7810 Рік тому

      @@FedericoMalagutti Respectfully, voiding a strike isn't solving a problem - it's just a deferral. Again, maybe this is just my take as a KDF fencer, but if my opponent can't stop my zwerchau, then voiding isn't going to help them, I can just step forward into the gap they've left and throw another attack at them.

    • @FedericoMalagutti
      @FedericoMalagutti  Рік тому +2

      @@alexhunt7810 going backward is 50% of fencing! The other 50 is going forward. Hehe