Customer Says He Can't Get The Rotor Off!
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- Опубліковано 17 гру 2024
- In this video I have a look at a guys Chevrolet Silverado. He states he can not get the front brake rotor off no matter how much he beats on it. Let's have a look. -Enjoy!
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“If you haven’t done anything stupid then you haven’t done anything at all” that is honestly very great to hear. I thought I was the only one
It's basic math, mistakes are a small percentage of the total numbers of the things u do, so if u do nothing then the mistakes percentage multiplied by zero will equal zero lol, an old saying says best way to not make mistakes is by doing nothing ...
I’ve done smart 💩and I’ve done dumb 💩😎
Yep
I have done a lot.
So therefore one could assume I’ve done a lot of stupid things.
Your right!
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40 years as a feet mechanic, a long time co-worker had the saying, “If you’re not breaking something, you’re not doing anything.”
Much respect for this CHEVROLET (GMC) owner. He gave it his best college try (he even bought decent parts) and then took it to a pro when it didn't go the way he had planned. Many just put it together (sort of) and drive it because they're too proud to admit defeat. It takes just as much of a man to set the pride aside and take it to someone who will do it right. Hopefully we're all laughing with him and not at him.
Had a guy that couldn't bleed the brakes on his 2500 HD 6.0 silverado...he put brand new rear calipers. Yeah on the wrong side/bleeders pointing down. Brake lines were about to go too so...but yeah.
offered a $60 brake special once.... girl brought in a white impala. then she comes unglued because i charged her the state sales tax!!! a week later i get a white impala in... Gee, this car looks familiar!! It was her dad. He said she was too embarrassed to come back and get the rear brakes done too !
i smiled pretty good on that one!
Had this happen with a steering box on a Dodge Durango... man was I embarrassed. Although that had more to do with not having a press to get the pitman arm off the box (I broke my puller on the darn thing!). One of many reasons I traded that thing away. Good riddance!
Pssh, I have a torch. I’m keeping my pride! It’s just a matter of how many extra parts do I have to replace. . .
I never half ass anything I do. But jobs usually end up taking me way fucking longer than the should, and I always get way deeper than I initially anticipate. Still haven't had to ask for help yet though lmao. But I've had to struggle thorough jobs blindingly frustrated many a time
Maybe 40 years ago, working in a Ford dealer, I had a rookie working in the stall next to me. One day he asked me what to do about a grease fitting that wouldn't take grease. I walked over and explained that brake bleeders don't require grease.
They DON'T??? Oh my! Could that be why my brake pedal takes 15 minutes to return each time I have to stop with both feet...?
😂
Thank the lord the valve was closed because grease in the brake plunger would be bad. Especially if pushed all the way up to the master cylinder which is what he surely would have done if he could. He was an especially adept student having never serviced brakes before.
Same thing happened to me about 35 years ago, new guy, first day at work, hey why won’t this fitting take grease, I let the service manager know, new guy didn’t come back to work after lunch.
Lol, I did that to my Volkswagen bug when I was 15….😆😂🤣
Props to the truck owner for even trying. So many people dont even bother these days. Good job truck owner.
It's below their pay grade....
"If you haven't done a stupid thing you probably haven't done anything at all" Classic!
When I used that excuse was told you must have done a lot in your life!
I had a friend who wasn't a mechanic but worked on his cars and some of his friends cars said to me " I'm getting better at fixing brakes" wtf? It's something you don't want to be bad at. It's amazing that bolt didn't break with the size of those hammer marks.
That goes along with what they used to tell me at works sometimes--if you ain't screwing up, you ain't getting anything done.
This one springs to mind. I was changing the "S" bend under my kitchen sink. Put a tray under it to drain into as I pulled it out. Captured all the "water" in it beautifully. Stood up and put the drain tray on the bench, got busy for a moment and then decided to tip the contents down the drain, straight into my under bench cupboard. Still shake my head at that one and it was about 20 years ago.
I have done the exact same thing, only the drain was clogged and the sink half full before I pulled the trap and drained it into the bucket. I'm glad to find out I'm not the only one to do that particular dumb thing.
I did the same thing.... more than once.
Guilty.
Yup, ✔
Yes, done that, being a plumber you do it once and learn your lesson.
I tried to pull my rear rotors with the parking brake set for 45 minutes.
Did that with my rear drums once lol
We have all been there
Been there.
@@RedfishCarolina Need a bigger dead blow hammer if the 10 lb one isn't budging the drum.
The brake hardware pins will usually give up within 20 blows.
We’ve all done it at least once
"If you haven't done a stupid thing - you probably haven't done anything at all"
Words of wisdom right there.
I removed all the lug nuts and couldn't get the wheel off, until I jacked up the car. Then it came off no problem.
Chicken dinner :)
Removed all her clothes, couldn't get the nut off. After hell of a battle finally whipped that nut waved bye to her and left.
LMAOOOO
🤣🤣🤣
😄👍🏽
The very first thing my instructor said to us in trade school.... " A good mechanic is one who has made a lot of mistakes....ONCE !"
yeap you learn by doing it as in hands on is best teacher
Absolutely! I am a millwright and I tell all my apprentices that it's good to make mistakes but only if you LEARN from them! 👍
@@billyjustbilly7923 As a machinist for over 22 years And live to tell about it.
@@whereswaldo5740 nice! I got my machinist ticket 27 years ago! Love the trade. Just wish it paid more.
If a good mechanic makes a lot of mistakes once, I'm the best there ever was. 😏😃
Since today is Father's Day and I miss my late Father, I will relate a true story of his effort at garage independence. He was no stranger to oil changes having done his own on everything from inboard boat motors, to lawn mowers and many different car engines over the decades. Mechanics was not his strong suit as he was an academician and educator. He, nonetheless, would try almost anything. He bought a brand new, first year Ford Escort. Transverse engine. Something never before seen by him. At the first proper interval, drained the oil, changed the filter refilled the crankcase. He calls me at work to ask what color the engine oil should be and to ask why he can't see the fill level on the dipstick. He had drained the transmission and doubled the crankcase oil to 9 quarts. I do miss him.
Thanks for your story. My dad was more skilled than me, so my stories aren't the same. Still, he was a great dad and some of my fondest memories are about working on vehicles. I miss him.
Done the same thing on the first 4 runner I seen cause the service Manager was yelling hurry up. Jokes on him, job took twice as long
Hahaha! I picked up two used motorcycles 4 years ago.i stripped one down and went through it cleaning, replacing and adjusting things. It was my first time working on a bike. The first one came out good , it was my test bike to see if I wanted to realy get involved in the bikes. I sold the first one and used the proceeds to purchase the parts that the other bike would need. I was floating on cloud nine, so damned happy that it was easier than I had thought it would be. I wanted to check the engine first, so cleaned up the exterior of the engine to make it easier to see any leaks. I bought new crush washer, the good oil, I even flushed the engine. I did some other minor stuff, and then started refilling the oil. Within 15 seconds, my knee pads were soaked in oil; I forgot to put the oil pan bolt back in. 2litres of oil wasted. The air was blue with all the swear words I was spitting out. I had to eat crow when my wife came out to see what all the fuss was about😭
I had an older customer that had his first front wheel drive car, and he miss took the oil cap for the radiator cap, it messed things up a bit.
Oops!
Brings a story to mind…several months ago, the shop I work at hired a guy who’d just left the Honda dealership, and that’s all he’d worked on. He’s a very talented mechanic, he’s adapted to working at an independent shop very well, obviously he’s much more experienced with Honda’s and JDM stuff, but pretty well excels at anything he’s given. That being said, one of the first jobs he got was brakes on a GMC Sierra, which happened to be from Vermont I believe (so it was rusty, and would make sense that the rotors where seized on), and, being that he’d been a dealer tech and had never really messed with anything other than Honda’s, he didn’t know that there where set screws in the rotors…so he’s over there beating he hell out of these rotors, cussing up a storm, going around the shop asking for the biggest hammer, eventually one of the other techs goes over, assumes he’s already removed the set screws, and starts beating on these rotors as well…so they’re both over there hammering and swearing for about 5 minutes when the other tech finally notices the set screws are still in. I about died laughing when I realized what had happened and they both turned beet red.
Hondas have set screws in their rotors
Hahahaha what @@bensonzhang550 said, Honda is the one manufacturer that puts set screws in the rotors! Talk about falling down on the job! LOL
Yep, Honda is one of the makes which have set screws. I think what happened is he knew that and just assumed the GMC didn't use set screws in the rotors (I would have assumed the same thing, but hopefully I would have noticed).
“If you haven’t done a stupid thing, you probably haven’t done anything” Eric O
Spent the hours trying to get the lower bolt of a PCV valve on a Jeep Wrangler pentastar. Rubbed my hand and knuckles raw against the firewall mat. Only to realize I could just remove the wheel well liner. After that it took longer to put my tools away than to tighten it down. I felt dumb.
Hahaha you should have seen my face when I realized what I could get to with the fender liners removed on a JK.
Or when you miss a bolt on an oil pan or valve cover. That's always fun.
Saw a guy do a full race build on his B18A Honda engine. That last step was putting in the oil pressure sending unit at which point he cracked the block wide open with too many ugga duggas.
I had a jeep that was missing the liner and while on the lift, the tires sag a lot so I had plenty of space for the EGR tube which I needed to remove to do intake and valve cover seals. I thought I would not be able to reach it when I first had a look at it lol. Wasnt an overlook but may had me stuck for a few if I didn't look to the side.
@@InsideOfMyOwnMind oh you gotta be kidding. Probably one of those guys that uses a 3 foot breaker bar and 5 foot pipe on an oil drain plug
Let me count how many times I soldered a wire but forgot to put the shrink wrap on before i soldered the wires together. I have done it on the same wire at least once (ie soldering a wire 3 times instead of once). Thankfully i don't fix things for a living and have never had to explain a simple stupid error to a customer (my wife on the other hand).
Yup. I've done that. I flared a brake line without putting the fitting on too. Start over....YES! The second flare never goes as smooth either.
Have you tried to fix your mistake by splitting a shrink wrap the long way to fit it over your work to only find out it doesn’t shrink like you thought it would 🥲
LMAO I just did that 2 days ago putting lights on my tractor.
Been there, done that!
I've forgotten that when I just used used the last terminal/butt connector, remembered right after I crimped it.
So true. If you haven't made any mistakes, then you probably never did anything.
Put on a chewed-up rotor
@@georgeshadrick3916 y
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Ah people make mistakes and get frustrated especially when they aren’t knowledgeable about it and aren’t experienced. I’ve been there myself multiple times.
When I used that excuse was told you must have done a lot in your life!
Best quote ever
Great to see you continue to care about those of us who try D.I.Y. and fail. Thanks for fixing our mistakes.
You could have been laughing at this customer, calling him a Silly Billy, but you were nice and classy and said we've all done stupid stuff. You were nice and understanding and you did a very thorough and tidy job fixing up those brakes for him.
You're a class act and a nice guy. Love your videos.
its called being humbled by something as equally stupid
Absolutely. My thoughts exactly.
Eric,you may need to modify your"If I can do it you can do it."
We have all indeed done stupid stuff, just hiked a trail I did about ten years ago today in search of trout. Long story short, the water was low, the fish were small, and my assuming that the trail being labeled "loop" meant it goes back to the trail head. Nope! Checked GPS after about an hour of walking to discover that I was in fact headed to the state park 8 miles away, and would need to retrace every one of my steps. A bit of due diligence would have sent me disc golfing instead!
This is what I'd want in my mechanic
You're as bad as me in thinking some videos aren't good enough. It was absolutely fine.
Big Clive I love your videos too.
Quite a compliment coming from a master class video producer..
Only the maker knows where all the flaws are. Go ahead and take the compliments and appreciation where you find them. This has been a really hard one for me to swallow but getting better at it.
hello.
And, if someone learned about the bolt that holds some rotors on, it was worth it.
Did a timing belt on a 2000 Honda CR-V, was rotating the harmonic balancer while doing a valve adjustment for my first time. Got everything back together and said a prayer before I turned the key. Turned the key and it started to turn over and BANG and it completely stopped attempting to turn over. Thought for sure I bent the valves and the engine was shot...Turned out I had left my 1/2" ratchet on the harmonic balancer and the ratchet had just slapped the CV axle. After that heart attack, I removed the ratchet and it all ran great. Thank god nobody was around at the time.
@@MrBirdnose i am fortunate enough to have a Milwaukee M18 1/2" electric impact, zips that bolt off without any hesitation. Love that thing
@@missingdll2976 Yeah, the most recent time I did one I had an impact wrench and it made the job a lot easier. The spare engine had been sitting for a while in a coastal environment and there was just no way, though, even the impact wouldn't break it loose. I split two sockets trying to get it loose by hand. I decided there was nothing for it but to drill it, and partway through that process it loosened up. Dunno why, maybe removing a chunk from the center reduced the binding forces.
I read a story of ship engine disasters. A mechanic left his socket on a gear for the valve timing. Shredded the engine. Your day could have been much, much worse.
lol..i bet your heart stopped for that split second
Doing timing without turning over the engine more times than absolutely necessary by hand? you're a braver man than me :)
nah man, love watching the brake jobs on the different vehicles even same ones.... never gets old, easy to screw up if you're not paying attention.
I've been wrenching & restoring as a hobby for over 40 years. So I gotta say it's refreshing to see a Tech on UA-cam that doesn't have a damn God complex. So many Techs are predispositioned to assume the customer is an idiot. Granted many are, but treat people right...until they don't treat you right.
So true!
“If you haven’t done anything stupid, you haven’t done anything”
Changing the front wheel bearings and fighting for a long time to get the new rotor on the hub. Swearing about wrong parts, etc and discovered that the seal from the old bearing was still stuck to the hub. Luckily, my youngest son had left a few minutes before I discovered this, so I only had myself laughing/crying at my stupidity.
He who is without sin, or who hasn't made simple mistakes, let him cast the first 10mm socket.
I can feel it though. I've been there. It's probably hot out, he's in an apartment parking lot with a set of Stanley tools from Walmart, that set didn't come with a 12mm socket so he's gotta use a pair of Hazard Frought vice grips and a hammer. He's probably dehydrated from laying on scorching hot asphalt so he's seeing little black spots everywhere now, he's gotta get to work in an hour and he's just about at the end of his rope.
His 6 year old boy Billy is standing there watch Daddy fix the truck and he doesn't want to absolutely lose his sh** so he's trying with all his might to remain calm and collected so as not to disappoint the boy and make him see his father and a raging maniac for the rest of his childhood.
His hammer is missing because his wife used it last week to hang dollar store decorations in the bathroom and never returned it, so he grabbed a brick from alongside the parking lot curb and he just starts to go to town on the old Shevvy.
Feel you bro.
Not that I have, um, much experience in this matter.
I will if I can find a 10mm socket ...
@@daveklassen7052 A 7mm will do in a pinch.
Well said!
You didn't mention that the weather app on his phone said severe thunderstorms in 35 minutes were going to hit.
We've all been through it.
Yup, we've all "been there, done that."
I was 16 working on my moms newly restored and painted bright orange MGB. Cute car. Was filling up the brake fluid tank. Got done and closed the hood. Bang! I had left the brake fluid can on top of the engine and the brake fluid can made a massive dent into the hood. Oh, my heart dropping was priceless. Taught myself a lesson that day...... When closing the engine hood, Panic Will Happen before you close any hood Ever again. That was 35 years ago. The panic stayed. Every. Single. Time.
"Remember folks, if I can do something stupid, you can, too."
Yeah, that's what I thought.
funny but so true!
Always told people, it isn’t a mistake, it was a learning opportunity
@@762531971 "An inconvienance is an adventure wrongly considered." G.K. Chesterton
"Successfully" removed an alternator from a '96 cavalier... for a few hours. After FINALLY getting the new one on, a guy comes along and explained the to me how I could've saved time had I simply taken the TENSION off.
I can see how that would've helped. 😂
Guilty of that one. Lol
@E36EM3 - Thanks. I can appreciate that now.
I remember changing alternators on my '94 Cavvie. Everything is back together except the serpentine belt. Buddy insisted he wanted to install the serpentine belt. OK, FINE, Mr. Hotshot, go for it.
3 cigarettes later, I'm standing 20 feet away from him, trying not to laugh hysterically (and failing) as he was cursing enough to make a sailor blush. He was loud enough that his neighbor, who had very little idea on how to work on cars, came over to see what was up. So Mikey and I stood there watching our friend try in vain to install one silly serpentine belt on a 2.2L. 4th cigarette down, I ask, "Do you want me to do it?"
"NO! I GOT IT!"
So I lean over to Mikey, the neighbor, who had just bought a '92 Cavalier 2.2L of his own, and said, "remember when you bought your Cavvie two weeks ago, I popped the hood on it, looked at your engine for 3 seconds, and told you the serpentine belt was installed wrong?"
"Yeah."
"Do you remember which way I showed you it went on?"
"Yup. Right after you showed me, I went home and practiced a few times. There's a picture on the metal cross piece (upper radiator support) isn't there? Mine has it, does yours?"
"Yup."
"And he can't follow the picture?"
"Nope."
"Dave, it goes around the crankshaft. Left side of the belt goes around the power steering pump. Right side of the belt comes up, goes backwards around the water pump, over the tensioner, and then you put the breaker bar on the tensioner and slip the belt over the alternator pulley."
"I KNOW WHAT TO DO! I WISH YOU GUYS WOULD JUST SHUT UP AND LET ME DO IT!"
I beamed with pride, because I taught this kid that just bought his first car how to properly install his serpentine belt, and not only did he practice at home later that day so he would know how to do it himself, but he had actually memorized the belt routing. Yet this other guy, who has almost as much experience working on cars as I did at the time, was completely clueless, even with the OEM diagram. I actually pushed him out of my way, yanked the breaker bar out of his hand, and said, "I got stuff to do today, I can't wait for you." 45 seconds later, belt installed, and Mr. Hotshot standing there dumbfounded.
Haven't had the car since 2011, and I still have that belt route memorized. lol
Happy Father’s Day Eric!
Good to know that you can apply vibration and loosen up the torx screws.
Many years ago I pulled a 4 speed transmission and changed the clutch on my Demon. Did it with hand tools only on a wooden rack in the back yard. Was all finished and putting the tools away when I found the pilot bushing on the ground! That transmission came out and went back in MUCH quicker the second time!
Always goes faster the second time!
Well that's just good planning; you saved yourself some time there by pre-loosening all your fasteners on the dry-run. Clutch change would have taken longer to complete if you hadn't taken it all apart beforehand 😜
I just ran without a pilot bearing when I made that same mistake. Ruined a freshly built transmission in less then 10k kms
Oops
thats a good one
The guy probably thought "If he can do it, than I can do it!" Turns out later that "Well, I can't do it, so HE can do it!"
I learned something, using an air hammer around the screw to loosen it.
It’s a very good trick, especially if you’re in the Rust Belt.
Hammer and punch works similarly.
Old millwright trick to take a ballpeen hammer and rap around rusty bolt to vibrate and break loose rusted corroded parts for easier removal ...
Shake n brake works great too
Honestly for a DIY car guy, working on your own stuff - especially anything even kinda sorta old.
An air hammer is invaluable, as well as a small propane torch.
The number of seized bolts/parts i was able to remove and save because of the tools is unreal.
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Unfortunately the number of bolts and parts I destroyed and stripped and caused myself countless more hours of work before I got an air hammer and torch is much higher 😅
I have a lot of respect for the GMC owner. Give it your best shoot, then admit defeat and take it to a pro. (Best channel ever)
“The oldest kid, he’s not even YOURS!” Hahaha
Neither is the youngest kid!!! Just sayin'!!
It's interesting that he cracks that joke on Father's Day 2021... 😁
Funniest “F”ing thing I’ve heard in a long time!!
all because the rotors wouldn't come off LOL...
@@rayworx "Don't worry, you can still celebrate Father's Day. One of the five kids is yours... just can't remember which."
When doing my first drum brake repair, I pulled one of the rear drums off, then asked my mate to step on the brake pedal so that I could see how the brakes operate. Ask me how I know that brake fluid stings when you get it in your eyes. Nearly 50 years later I reckon that I could still describe the taste of brake fluid - yuck!
brake fluid is THE WORST just because it is so corrosive
@@patonbike Feels impossible to clean off too. I'll still go with gear oil as the worst though because of the stink.
Yup - remember doing my first drum brake job and was trying SO HARD to not let that piston open up or drain... I DID NOT want to get air in the system... then when trying to install the new shoes and springs, I pushed the piston right out... NOW we have to bleed the system! Arrrrgh.
@@rangerrick8220 Been there!!!!!!!!!!
Not tried brake fluid.. how does it compare to coolant? Had the misery of tasting that a couple of times..
One of my never to forget as long as I live frustration lessons was trying to change the diff oil in my car right before a planned trip. Undid the drain plug and drained out all the oil. Put the drain plug back in and tried to undo the fill plug but she was seized in there tight. I spent few hours of beating my head against a wall trying to get the fill plug out including using a puny little butane torch in desperation that couldn't even warm the area. I was advised to take to it with a cold chisel and mallet to force it to turn, which eventually got that sucker out after peeling half the face off it. Lesson learnt from that day 25 years ago, never remove a drain plug first! That way if the fill plug is stuck at least the oil is still in there and the vehicle still be driven.
That's really good advice right there.
@@DaddyBeanDaddyBean Yup. I haven't had this happen but I heard that advice long ago and never forgot it. Someday it'll come in handy.
Ill never forget this. It seems simple to remember, just haven't thought about it that way before.
Somewhere down the road you'll probably save lots of people unnecessary grief with that story.
Good on you.
Since only ‘spannering’ on my cars in the later years of my life this is one of the most important pearls of wisdom I have learned...luckily never had ‘that one’ that doesn’t undo...but I have always checked the full plug first.. not sure who it was that mentioned it first.. maybe on this channel...
Years ago I learned the hard way to look for those screws holding on the brake rotors. Not too long ago I learned about the threaded holes in some drums and rotors where you can screw in a bolt to push the bugger off, 'cause they are made to fit tight on the hub. Once I have the right size bolts, they become designated tools and are kept with my brake tools. Good on you for doing a thorough job and not berating the DIY'er too badly.
I should have read this before yesterday. My post is somewhere here.
Yes I myself used to use those threaded holes as well to force off brake drums until the day i had one of the drums crack doing this. I think the engineers put these threaded holes there on purpose so you would crack the drum and have to buy a new one!!
“If you haven’t done anything stupid, you haven’t done anything” 😂
My bone head maneuver? The passenger window in my Honda Element would not move. I’ve had window regulators go bad in other cars so I just assumed it was bad. I tore the whole passenger door apart and installed a new Honda regulator. It still did not work. It finally dawned on me that someone had pushed the child proof lock button on the driver’s door. I bet you saw this one coming.
Salvation came, several years later, when the passenger regulator did go bad in the other Element. The “broken” part was put back to work. Oh well.
Same thing here
i try to test first more these days , than just going with my gut. voltmeter could have saved u some time probably.
The most valuable lesson here was massaging around the screw on the rotor to get it to move, good one.
I learned something new there, Its nice to know. I thought he would of had to get the blow torch out and heat it up.
WD or PB and a hammer will work to if you don't have air. At least it has for me more than once. They can start coming out and tighten up. Stop. Soak it again and work it back n forth. They can strip.
Or just drill them out of they're being stubborn. They are really just there for safety on the assembly line.
@@dustintunis9347 Yep, also they are handy for doing brake jobs, as they hold it all together nice and just perfect, but if they strip ect, they're getting tossed. Wood drill bits work appearantly in a pinch i've found out.
@@baileyhatfield4273 Yeah they're like butter to drill out. Luckily.
As someone who lives in the rustbelt and does his own brakes and rotors, I really appreciate the amount of anti seize you used behind that rotor. First time I replaced mine I found the last mechanic didn't use nearly enough (or none at all) and I had to spend 30 minutes a piece whacking away at them to get them free.
I was just thinking he put about ten times as much as is smeared on every single item in my roadside tool bag. That stuff can coat unbelievably well. I wish Ford had used as much on my entire Focus as he did on those wheels.
"the oldest isn't even yours, all because of a brake job" LOOL
Boy, that escalated quickly… I was LMAO
Or, worse... "actually that one IS yours.."
😂 man that went from 0 to 💯 quick fast and in a hurry 😂😂
Glad you didn’t throw the video away, thanks for posting it.
When I was 16, I rebuilt my first engine. Self taught, lol.
When I put the brand new rings on the pistons, I inspected the cylinders. They were smooth as glass, so I thought, “wow, they’re perfect!” I didn’t know about honing/crosshatching, hahaha. To this day, almost 35 yrs later, I’ve never owned another car that burned that much oil.
that's funny !
When I took shop class in the ninth grade we were going through the automotive phase of the class and rebuilding an engine. The joke throughout the classmates was rebuilding the engine all nice and purdie, cleaning the area up, and see a piston/connecting rod sitting on the work bench.
@@OcRefrig sho nuff!
@@donaldhollums3278 Extra parts! No need to worry, just put in the glove box in case you need another down the road...1/4 mile down the road.
Certainly a learning moment for some viewers and also for the owner who could not get the rotors off. He must be young. I do give him credit for trying, but he needs to watch your videos for tips. Yes, I too have done dumb things when learning, but I did learn and have taught others. Glad you didn't trash this video!!! Thanks for sharing!!!
"that's what frustration looks like, folks...." (I love it, Eric)
Next thing you find out your not the father. All because you couldn’t get the rotors off lol
Good call on putting the hardware in for him. I wouldn’t have been able to leave the hardware out myself either. Always do the right thing even if the customer doesn’t want it in a circumstance like that.
The guy would have brought the truck back in a week complaining, It sounds like an ice cream truck going down the road.
Teaching son how to change a tire. Stomping on the bar to get the seized lug nut to crack loose. Could not crack it loose. 5 minutes later realized I was righty tightying and not lefty loosening. Stripped the stud threads. Happy Fathers Day to all other DIY dads!
I did rotors on my Honda Pilot. My daughter's boyfriend is an Auto Mechanic and warned me about the #3 JIS screws holding the rotors on. I work on Japanese hvac units (I'm a Commercial HVAC tech) so I had the Impact bit and an Impact wrench powerful enough...man those were tight. For a minute there I thought I was stuck. Always enjoy your videos Eric! Thanks!
At least we got a shot of brake kleen out of the deal!
I was watching another viddeo where they pulled out a black (CarQuest?) can of brake clean I was disappointed in the lack of a sound effect.
@@cgmoog He forgot to put it on the charger the night before
Sometimes having the right tools combined with experience makes a world of difference.
I am a long time subscriber, and I enjoy your work and comments along the way. I appreciate how you didn't embarrass the young man who attempted this job, and you showed maturity in recognizing that we have all made mistakes and needed a "helping hand" in showing us the way. I cannot express enough that I sure liked your attitude, and you made it about "us" and not about "him." Good job.
Oh man I have been in those shoes. We've all been frustrated and dragged through the mud and no one likes to be hit when their down. Live, learn and move on I say :)
Never throw any videos in the trash we enjoy all the jobs no matter how small or insignificant!! Keep them coming!! And I think we have all done something like this before… I know I have… when I was just a young gun I did a brake job and when I got done one of the sides was making an awful racket so I pulled the tire off and to my surprise I forgot to tighten the caliper bracket bolts and it was just this side of fallen off! Lesson learned…torque everything twice because twice is nice!!
I've bought several cans of brake clean and not a one made that sound.
I buy cases of brake clean and none of em make that sound
There's your problem fella. They didn't come from Napa. Lol
That's how you can identify a counterfeit.
@@Thomasploeg1968 Not a sponsor. :-P
I’m still trying, but they never do it for me.
When you tap the seal into the hub and then find the bearing you just packed.😁
HA!
I've been a mechanic for 48 years. I only quit leaving rotors out when I put distributor caps on when coil on plug came around.
I put the friction plate the wrong way round in a clutch job. Threw the gearbox in, subframe, battery, driveshaft, start up......no clutch! 😠🤦 Take gearbox out for the second time..... 😁
Good one ya I've done that one
Or when i put a wheel bearing in a Honda odyssey with the magnetic side in...
seeing a mechanic doing the brake job the way I do it, makes me confident in my amateur work. many thanks for the confidence.
Eric no matter what you do it’s always a good video. Remember even though you can do it others are still learning and it could be your video they learn from.
By doing this repair for the guy you actually have a customer for life.
Yup, he didn't trust shops, now he probably does.
yup, he might be alive now because you fixed his brakes. customer for life.
Making the stupid mistakes is how you learn!! Man have I learned over the years!!
I feel it.
More than once, I have set the parking brake before a rear brake job and spent what seemed like HOURS trying to pull that rotor.
lmao.. i have had that phone call from 6 people doing thier brakes.. 1 got me a mug that says " i can fix dumb" lmao
Or drum! Yep did that!
Nice I love how you give just the right amount of criticism towards the owner of the truck. Just enough that he will probably laugh if he sees the video and not be pissed at you. Lots of respect for you keep it up!
Had an old Ford where the wheel came off while driving and the drum was ruined. Went to the salvage yard and got a used on for $20 than had it turned for another $10. Thought I was doing well but I cracked it putting it on. Felt really bad. Went to the auto place to fork out for a new drum. Felt really stupid when he put the new drum on the counter and said that would be $12.50!
😂
As a teenager I change the back tire of the truck and drove about a mile down the road when when the tire come off at passed my truck with my girlfriend sitting next to me. It kind of bounced in slow motion for quite a ways. Forgot to tighten the Lugnuts but fortunately I still had 2 good holes so I took Lugnuts off the other tires and bolted up just enough to get to the tire shop.
Years ago I had a 1981 half ton ford pickup.I worked in a truck repair shop. The pickup little drum's Manny 8 inch round. Thay were $65 the large heavy truck drum's were $55. Also I had A 1979 thunderbird which had three larger brakes
Yup, I remember trekking around town to find parts for my van, scrap yard, auto parts, etc, I start with the internet now.
“And then pretty soon she’s telling him “The oldest kid? He ain’t even yours!” Classically funny family spats. Love his type of humor.
benny hill. good nite mother of 10, goodnite father of 7............
@@phantomwalker8251 haha!
Yeah that was my favorite quote of the day 😂😂😂
I had a customer with a Range Rover who called me to tow in his vehicle as it needed a new transmission (in his opinion) On arriving at the scene, I found it would move backwards OK and would move forwards about a foot before the drivetrain locked up solid with a load clunk. Turned out he had just done a brake job on it and had left the caliper bolts loose, one had fallen out and would allow the caliper to pivot out and contact the spokes on the aluminium wheel stopping the thing dead. He was lucky it didnt happen at hwy speeds.
Had that exact thing happen to a friend of my daughter's. I had already told the kid that the rearend in her jeep (GC) had apparently locked up and it'd have to be towed from our house to a repair shop. After a little more poking around, I discovered something very similar; Her dad had worked on the brakes recently. A caliper bolt self-ejected somewhere along the line, allowing the caliper to swing out and lock against the inside of the rim. Sent the girls to the auto parts store for a caliper bolt and had her back on the road for a few bucks.
I've had a caliper come loose and I got home using the ebrake but it was in the middle of the night. I've always tightened the shit out of my bracket bolts so not sure how that one happened. Must have forgot
One happy fellow did front diffenrential rebuild to his 4x4 wheeled excavator. Too bad he mounted front diff wrong way, so front wheels spin opposite direction.
That's scary. Might just be me but brake stuff is one area of car repair I always stop when I think I'm done and methodically go through every bolt just for my own sanity, too easy to fuck up in deadly ways to avoid doing a quick sanity check.
It wasn’t a bad video at all. If nothing else, it reminds us that when something isn’t going quite right, to slow down and check the simple things. I’m a senior who tries to do brake jobs and such myself. I too have forgotten that screw and sworn a bit until I finally remembered it was there. The older I get, the more often these things seem to happen.
My best similar one: Trying to remove the rear drums on a E series van.. with the parking brake applied. Eventually I did win and the brake hardware went flying everywhere once the drum came off.
This was my first guess
Oh yes. Two different Crown Vics, years apart, same mistake.
At least I figured it out faster the second time.
Awe lol. That sux. Funny AF but sux. That had to be the fight to end all fights.
I mean how are you supposed to figure out how to get it apart if you can't see it apart? Right?
On a more civil note many times I will look at the new part if I have it to see how it comes out, or better yet go to pick n pull and practice on one of their cars lol.
was replacing rear hard lines on my astro...went to bleed and forgot to put drum back on....BANG there goes the wheel cylinder exploded..not a good day lol
“He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone”.
Excellent video with humor & a good lesson behind it; you go out of your way for your customers, that tells me you’re a very good mechanic & person.
Cheers from NYC 🗽
Respect to Eric certain other UA-cam mechanics would call their customer a dumbass.
When I was about 14, Dad asked me to change the stator in his Harley and pointed to the right side cover and left on his errands. I removed all the hardware and gave the cover a tug, but something was definitely still holding it. Dad came home, looked at the cover and figured he'd try a bit more force. The man was a 240lbs powerlifter so he grabbed that cover and pulled it out with hulk force, pulling the camshaft out with it. Lesson learned, know the correct location of the part! That seemed like a good opportunity to do a cam, exhaust, adjustable pushrods and a tune.
Shur while yer in there looking at it..might as well!
Wow. Just wow.
That's one of those sick to your stomach feelings
@@chrisburrell8489 I'll forever remember that *CLACK* of the cam snapping free. I rapidly became capable from that point on. That was one of many "sink or swim" moments that taught me so much
Good video to remind us all, try your repairs, you will learn something about the subject and something about yourself to improve upon.
The dumbest thing I do is not to plan well enough for the project at hand. Research the project, having proper parts and tools come to mind and having the right attitude to hold down the temper.
Eric, thanks for the lessons you teach.
Would pay good money to see the guy's face when you told him.
I'd like him to not tell the guy and then have the guy watch this video a d record his reaction... Lmao
Well that makes me feel not so bad cuz I've done some pretty silly things myself in the past I hope that guy doesn't feel too bad sometimes it's just easy to miss something simple. Maybe if you're tired or not thinking well that day or distracted I can turn into a really bad day
@@bustanut3888 even better
"and that's when she hits you with oh ya the oldest kid isnt even yours!" ahh words of wisdom from the master!
LOL , I love all of the hammer marks on the rotor !
He was channeling the pent-up rage and frustration of a thousand home mechanics!
I’m sure those sloppy new pads did too 😂
Those aren't hammer marks, they are the new high performance brake cooling channels!!!
I would have expected those on the back side of the rotor 😀
He was ring testing it for cracks.
I just had that kind of moment with my 4wheeler. I was replacing both CV axles and didn't realize that the two axles were slightly different lengths until one side was fully reassembled and I was struggling to install the knuckle on the other side, and finally compared the two old axles I pulled out and noticed my mistake. That mistake took me three hours to sort out.
While there were no big revelations provided here it was still entertaining. You sir are a charismatic mechanic. I quite enjoyed watching and listening to you. Keep up the great work and make us some more videos. Thanks
Wow, that hypothetical discussion escalated really quickly.
Just like real life!
@@flagmichael if it happens to you; it's strong evidence that you've made some pretty terrible decisions
I called permatex and they said the orange goo is their better version of their much loved purple goo, only it's designed to work with all rubbers rather than just most
It's good shit. But man it ain't cheap for a small can of grease 😅
@@bmir89 hey you ain't kidding brother, I buy it in a bulk pack, but for a home gamer or a neighborhood mechanic Amazon has an alright price.
I haven't found anything that works better or holds up better to the brutal seasons we have here in Wisconsin yet though.
I just bought a bottle of their green brake lube. I find purple swells some slider condoms. Anyone know how well the green works?
@@mikeburton1733 not sure on the green stuff, the purple had thoes issues and that's why they went to the orange, it is still ceramic but it is silicone based so it doesn't swell the brake rubber
Hate the purple. Got burned many times with "seized" calipers only to finally figure out the purple goo was causing the rubber pin bushings/seals swell and the caliper to jam. My old chevy cobalt taught me this when one of the pins has a groove cut in it for wide square ring and the swelling was obvious. Purple was also advertised to not harm rubber so they have lost my trust. I buy OEM ford lube now for all my cars and have not had any problems.
And that's why I always go look at a couple of UA-cam videos of how to do what I want to do even though I've done it before and think I know how to do it. Thanks Eric, don't throw this video in the bin, there is always somebody out there that needs your expertise.
I can hear the client now “what do you mean the lug nuts are torx bolts?!” Not even a clue. This was a great video to remind us all to slow down. Great Job Mr O.
Yes we all need to slow down.
That an UA-cam makes an expert outta everyone. 🙄
"Cylinder order is not firing order" My brain in the middle of the night after changing distributor and leads and it not go.
Did something similar. Buddy of mine burned a cat by inverting 2 coils on a ford escape.
@@okkrom I and another person put in a clutch plate backwards once, after we started it up and car wouldn't move - we were asked 'did you put the clutch plate in correctly' we looked at each other, dismantled it all and sure enough it had front this way on the damn thing - and we never noticed.
@@wonniewarrior At least you had one where you could look at it and tell which way it goes. It can be tough.
@@InsideOfMyOwnMind I am trying to decide if it a backhanded compliment or a subtle dig. Is there instructions for me to figuire it out ?
@@wonniewarrior Just that some clutch disks can be kind of ambiguous if you're not super observant taking it apart and hopefully the old one is not blown up beyond recognition. So empathy more than anything else.
That right there, is the most anti-sieze I've ever seen used at once. lol Thanks Dr. O!
I used that much when doing the rear rotors on my '06 Ford F-150
Where is a lot of that antiseize going when the heat and rpms go up?
@@doncruzen6246 flung onto the pads and rotors lol.
I remember when I was 16 and the farmer next to our farm needed help changing his newly bought used 4 bottom plow with new points. He could not get the bolts broke loose. I broke them in half being almost rusted into already into. When he brought out the new plow points and bolts the threads did not look right and the nuts would not thread on in the right direction. First time I ever saw left handed threads on a bolt. That was the reason we could not get the old bolts to unthread. Always remembered that learning lesson. I made a good living working on equipment and was able to retire at 58 because all I learned growing up on a farm. I also learned that trying to make a living on 120 acres was not going to make it for a good life with beans going for $6 a bushel.
True. You almost always make more selling shovels to the gold miners during a gold rush than you would mining for gold yourself!
Admire the owner for getting good parts, trying and then seeking help when out of their depth.
@@andrewcz8871 Live and learn. He'll know better next time.
What else could he do ?
@@ghostspectre1861 Cars don't have a next time in New York 🤣
Hmmm stupid things… Well on in my teen years I had this 63 Plymouth Valiant and it had starting and running issuers. My teen brain thought maybe the fuel line was clogged. So I disconnected the line from the pump, removed the gas cap(I didn’t want to damage the fuel tank), grabbed up an air hose and gave that pesky tube a full blast of shop air. Pretty much all the gas in the tank shot out the fill neck like a firehose wide open. Shot for at least 15 feet because the wall I was parked next to took the brunt of the gasoline. So the fuel line is clear! Yay! No change still barely ran. Bought a new fuel pump and fixed the running problem.
LMAO Fantastic.
I was going to do the same with my 85 ram but had a hunch it was sucking air in at the pump. Replaced the pump and fixed all the issues! I was worried about making a fuel rocket like you did lmao
My mistake: re-assembled a motorcycle engine and then found first gear at the bottom of the parts box. 🤓 I had some re-doing to do
That's now just the second neutral
@@RayleighCriterion haha very true 🤓 I ended up splitting the case once more and re-doing all my work. I felt so accomplished until I saw it laying there at the bottom of the box
Oof.
practice makes perfect, BTDT
You could always start out in 2nd, lol.
Glad you didn't trash the video! It was informative. Sometimes a little knowledge can be a bad thing! DIYers have been a big part of my business as a carpenter.
That frame will probably rust through, before that rotor ever freezes to the hub.
yup.
Looking at the amount of rust already on this truck that will be about 6 months from now. Seriously, that is a 2012? Good Lord, that is crusty.
if you laugh when that torx screw came out hit the like button.
A man of culture, I see.
You get a like but only cos I snapped one today !😂😂
My first thought was that bolt
So easy with the right tools!!!
@@ReadyFreddie5523 ty at least someone noticed that was a impact gun, betting dude couldnt get it out and so yeah the 'owner cant get the rotor off..', vs a mechanic with the right tools... all of them were likely like that hence the hammer marks but in the end couldnt get the last one.
tbh I never understood even the purpose of those screws for the rotor when the rotor is bolt/clamshell clamped down by the rim. Those tiny lil things aint standing up to breaking forces so what the point. Honestly I never put'm back in on the few cars I owned.
I appreciate your empathy for the frustrated DIY'er. Alot of guys just claim "idiot" (which hey, i've been one a few times) and move on.
Great video DON’T toss it !!! This content is the best thing ever to instill humility. Failure is sometimes the very best teacher, especially when it’s something SO simple. THANKS for posting and leaving it up.😎 I had a similar problem years ago when I missed the little 8mm bolt in the center of an early S series Saturn. What makes it even more hilarious is there is an arrow in the casting pointing to the recess where the head of the bold is buried so make certain that NOBODY WOULD MISS IT !!! 😳🤨🤪
Dude, I've made this exact mistake before. Beat on that rotor until my arm turned to jelly. My grandpa walked by, looked at it for a second, and said "you know that would be a lot easier if you took the screw out, right?" I felt like such an idiot. He had a good laugh at my expense, and I've never made that same mistake again. I miss that old man. Lol
Well that escalated quickly.... "THE OLDEST KID HE AIN'T EVEN YOURS!" 😂
That would be bad, if she says, the youngest isn't yours that would be a little more believable than the first
that air hammer trick is solid man, how did i never try that lol
Was that a needle scaler? I need what that was.
@@michaelvangundy226 nah, just an impact hammer. But even a regular hammer will do in a pinch - you're just trying to vibrate and shake it up so the rust will release the threads. A needle scaler doesn't really have the force of impact to be all that effective. But if you don't have an air supply handy, a simple impact driver and hammer is also a good go-to tool combo. :-)
Laughing my ass off at the random hammer dings in the rotor. You can tell he got to the stage of just whacking it in anger 😂🤣
Noticed the other side didn't have any hammer marks and that was the hard side. Air hammers on the other hand are worth their weight in gold.
Being a grown up means you stop before you get to that point. I have zero tolerance working with people who can't control themselves.
@@maplebones you gotta use a hammer to get them off sometimes
You did the right thing putting it together with the hardware. Tell him that the liability would fall on you as the business if something were to happen down the road because you didn't put it together properly. Good job buddy. 👍
I tell the young guys on the construction site..."If you're not making mistakes, you're not working hard enough. Everyone makes mistakes. Suck it up & keep going." I remember one time at band camp...I sqeaked when I should've squawked. I just kept playing. Nobody cared.
I told my boss for years, ofcourse you don't make any mistakes, you don't actually do anything. He didn't see the humor in it
Same happens when you watch enough small time news stations that hire college students, they flub their lines alot, and keep going. They re-say the correct word or just skip it entirely.
When changing your engine oil, always replace the oil pan drain plug before adding the new oil.
Hot tip!
I leave the drain pain there until I am happy it's empty enough. When it's time to remove the pan, reinstall the bolt and washer.
And make sure the rubber seal comes off with the filter. Did that once on my sisters car in dads shop. I knew better but had a brain fart. Started to check for leaks and sure enough I had a gusher. Changed oil lots in the next 30 years and always double checked that one. Until one time on my own truck, did it again, lol maybe I can go another 30 years if I make it that long.
Oh yes I've done that once before LOL but look at the bright side you flushed all the bad oil out that way LOL
@@kubotaman85 exactly.
Trying to get a gearbox back onto the engine with the clutch alignment tool still in place, it just would not go.
It was the damnedest thing?? lol
Ever figure it out in the end?
@@forevercomputing I got it in the end
but not before a lot of bad language. LOL
@@aspalovin I can see the funny side now
but at the time not so much.
I love your videos, I like the last few words LOL. You are definitely for real that some funny things happen, I remember being really POd and then saw my mistake and had to laugh at myself. Thanks again for the entertainment at the same time teaching us something.
This is still a great SMA video because it shows the benefits of a) the right tools and b) a ton of experience. And good on you Eric for finishing the job properly, as we all knew you would :-)
I'm going to run out and invest in Anti-seize. Paint the whole truck. Rust belt insurance.
Your truck will blend in with one of those street performers who paint themselves silver.
Keith Oswald don't put it on the door handles you amd your passenger will be wearing it. LOL.
I promise when you install it on the brakes, you wont have to do the whole truck, give it time, you will see it on your pants, and your screw drivers, and the tire, and it will spread, forever and ever, and eventually you will look like the tin man.
But what about all the parts that you don't want to come undone?
@@06goatm6 and in my experience and watching him slather it on, it's a lot. I bet the road will get covered over time, just from this one truck lol. I'm glad I'm in the south and don't have to worry about everything rusting after a year of use.
Looks left, looks right, whispers, “I’ve been there brother” 👊🏻👊🏻
Man you make things look so easy with your knowledge, that kid could have watched any Utube vid on changing brakes they are not hard to a practical person.......love your channel. 👍🇺🇸