CORRECTION: There is a small piece of paper included with the manual that does mention that the stabilators need to be set to 5 degrees up for level flight. It's easy to miss though!
3:34 you’ve probably seen them before, but a couple years ago small EDF’s like this were released with ailerons and elevators mechanically bound together, the plane intended to fly under delta wing mix. This scale of jet have wings so far back that the ailerons produce a ton of pitching moment.
Yeah, we've definitely seen models like that and usually shy away from them. It's preferable to have them set up that way, but also be able to turn it off instead of it always being left on.
I really like this plane! It wouldn't take off from my club field with wheels, so I took it to another field with GeoTex. It really scoots! I love how easy it is to fly and land. I thought I was going to love my MotionRC F-22 more, but this one takes the cake with it's better flying habits.
Thanks for reviewing this one Jon! Looks like a fun one to experiment with and who can beat that price point! Great flying and your videos just keep getting better!
Your agility testing confirms why the 64mm Freewing F-105 and F-8 have the ailerons linked to the elevators. I thought that would make it fly wonky, but it does the trick!
So Jon it seems like right out if the box its not so hot, but after some cool programming its a blast. AS3X to the rescue...amazing what you can do with it when you know what to do! Working rudders would really set it off. You could high alpha the crap out of it.
It's very limited in stock config. No servo replacements were made, just some basic rejiggering for full control of what's in the airframe. We think people wrote it off because it looks a little goofy for a F-35, but it's so good when set up right that it's a real gem to fly. Ours has already been cleaned up and just awaits more adventures.
Its been a while Jon but im getting the bug again here in upstate NY and finding myself catching up on all your latest videos. Looks like a fun little grass lander I'm going to have to add to my collection.
Hi Jon. While I follow all your RC plane videos, unless I've missed it, I don't see any for the Freewing F9F-8 Cougar Super Scale 80mm? For some reason I'm very attracted to this F9F-8.
I got mine a week ago. I was puzzled that the motor is practically hanging out the back on v2. I guess it needed more tail weight? Nearly every one of my small EDF's have the motor 30% back from the tail except this one. I got the Freewing F-22 as well to compare and contrast. Yes the F-22 is heavier, but it has a bigger wing. I'm excited to see this fly. I currently fly my 64mm F9f Panther with wheels off a parking lot, so I'm worried about how long its rollout will be with a 3S 2200. I was told not to use a 4S with it.
Got one last year. Gave up on the landing gear, tweaked it 20 times. Now it hand launches and flies fine. (Mostly.) Added an LED ring afterburner. I’ll have to try your recommendations. It’s been a year and I don’t remember all the tweaks, but I’m curious how many similar settings we have.
Can you provide a step by step guide on how you link the elevator with ailerons? I want to get my plane flying the cobra maneuver. The video went over it to fast.
I've long thought the F-35 looks like the F-22's chonky little brother. The real plane has some amazing capabilities, but it doesn't look that sleek. I saw one of these models yesterday at our local hobby supply, and looked up videos to see how it flies.
The 70mm F-35 from Freewing is much more true-to-scale and looks significantly better. The 64mm FMS variant is sort of a cartoon character in comparison.
Own and love this bird. It’s listed as 3s. However, as you did, I’d only recommend 4s. Also, taking the landing gear off helps shed weight and improves the flight. Great bird, just don’t forget no rudder. FMS - please make a v3 with rudder and higher amp ESC designed for 4s
U can run 4s on this motor but expect around 75A draw on the 40A esc. No wonder the esc will fail. I run the 3150kv 4s version on 5s and have just a little more rpm than this little motor on 4s and I'm at 80A. Change ur esc to an 80A!
Hi my friend!Excellent video and i will order it soon.I have a question.Did you use a 4cell battery with change something or without?I can use 3cell and 4 cell too?Please advice!
Hey Jon. GREAT video as usual. Question. Using a DX9, what is the difference between the Taileron and the Elevon option. Shouldn’t the control surfaces move the same way. I’ve never used the Taileron option yet.
Elevons should be used on delta wings with no elevators - where the trailing edge surfaces function as elevators and ailerons combined into one. Taileron mixing is for models that have two servos for the elevator/stabilator surfaces and you want to use them in roll with the ailerons on the wings.
Great flying Jon. This old FMS F-35 appears to have some cool flight characteristics, cobra landing. I'd like to see you add some rudders and give it another go. AirHammer out!!
Rudders might be difficult, the way they're affixed to the fuselage isn't exactly conducive to them staying on with the stress of using rudder. Might be worth considering though.
Fun fact - there's a 28g weight under the plastic where the steering system is connected. You can remove that to get the weight shifted aft. You can also shove the battery further back, which is what we did here. It definitely didn't fly nose heavy, but it had to be given how much upward stab trim is required. Rather perplexing when you think about how we managed to make it pull off some of those post-stall maneuvers.
I’ve never understood why no one makes the “C” navy version. Has never made sense to me. I was dead set on buying the Rafale for my next plane but might have to pick one of these instead?
I just got this jet and when it came to putting the cables to the receiver I noticed that on the throttle cable had a pig tail that has one small connector and on spectrum receiver doesn’t have a slot for that. Anyone else have this issue?
@@TwoBrosRC thank you! After doing some More research that’s what it came out to be. Been 10 yrs since I flew anything so was absolutely drawing blanks
@@TwoBrosRC but the motor is roughly 1000kv off , if you take the freewing f22 they use a 2900 kv and it is advertised for4S This motor is 3900kv. So on an additional cell as we know will produce a higher load and temps both of wich can limit the longevity of the esc. I’m speaking as a person who listened to this video and bought 4cell packs now realize that was a mistake. Something for your viewers to consider
@@Carboneye7 We flew the second F-35 that FMS sent over many times without any issues on 4 cells. If it were a heat-related failure, the ESC would have shown damage. It was a bad unit - happens occasionally.
Nah, you'll be fine. Just follow our quick setup tips. There's nothing to be afraid of here. It's only foam after all! It'll take impacts better than any foamboard model will, too.
CORRECTION: There is a small piece of paper included with the manual that does mention that the stabilators need to be set to 5 degrees up for level flight. It's easy to miss though!
Yeah I didn't find mine until later.
a lot of guys miss the small paper they just o° elev and go with it.
Did you miss the part where it is 3s ?
@@Carboneye7 We chose to fly it on 4 cells.
3:34 you’ve probably seen them before, but a couple years ago small EDF’s like this were released with ailerons and elevators mechanically bound together, the plane intended to fly under delta wing mix. This scale of jet have wings so far back that the ailerons produce a ton of pitching moment.
Yeah, we've definitely seen models like that and usually shy away from them. It's preferable to have them set up that way, but also be able to turn it off instead of it always being left on.
My little f35 is like that
I really like this plane! It wouldn't take off from my club field with wheels, so I took it to another field with GeoTex. It really scoots! I love how easy it is to fly and land. I thought I was going to love my MotionRC F-22 more, but this one takes the cake with it's better flying habits.
Thanks for reviewing this one Jon! Looks like a fun one to experiment with and who can beat that price point! Great flying and your videos just keep getting better!
That cobra 🐍 landing was awesome
I hear music from AC7. A nice touch.
Fly it like you stole it!
Your agility testing confirms why the 64mm Freewing F-105 and F-8 have the ailerons linked to the elevators. I thought that would make it fly wonky, but it does the trick!
Every little bit of air that can be displaced adds to the agility of these smaller airframes. It also helps the larger ones too!
Good morning from globe Arizona
This looks awesome for the price point. Its a bit of "project" plane.
It's definitely a project, but it's fun.
What all do to buy to fly this?
A transmitter and batteries, that's about it.
So Jon it seems like right out if the box its not so hot, but after some cool programming its a blast. AS3X to the rescue...amazing what you can do with it when you know what to do! Working rudders would really set it off. You could high alpha the crap out of it.
It's very limited in stock config. No servo replacements were made, just some basic rejiggering for full control of what's in the airframe. We think people wrote it off because it looks a little goofy for a F-35, but it's so good when set up right that it's a real gem to fly. Ours has already been cleaned up and just awaits more adventures.
Its been a while Jon but im getting the bug again here in upstate NY and finding myself catching up on all your latest videos. Looks like a fun little grass lander I'm going to have to add to my collection.
WOAH, that was almost a kulbit.
Hi Jon. While I follow all your RC plane videos, unless I've missed it, I don't see any for the Freewing F9F-8 Cougar Super Scale 80mm? For some reason I'm very attracted to this F9F-8.
We haven't bought it because it doesn't interest us.
I got mine a week ago. I was puzzled that the motor is practically hanging out the back on v2. I guess it needed more tail weight? Nearly every one of my small EDF's have the motor 30% back from the tail except this one. I got the Freewing F-22 as well to compare and contrast. Yes the F-22 is heavier, but it has a bigger wing. I'm excited to see this fly. I currently fly my 64mm F9f Panther with wheels off a parking lot, so I'm worried about how long its rollout will be with a 3S 2200. I was told not to use a 4S with it.
Now you know why he burnt the first esc.
Got one last year. Gave up on the landing gear, tweaked it 20 times. Now it hand launches and flies fine. (Mostly.) Added an LED ring afterburner. I’ll have to try your recommendations. It’s been a year and I don’t remember all the tweaks, but I’m curious how many similar settings we have.
FMS or Freewing definitely needs to make a C version. Where did mount the receiver? I added it to a side wall.
Ours was mounted under the magnet on top.
Can you provide a step by step guide on how you link the elevator with ailerons? I want to get my plane flying the cobra maneuver. The video went over it to fast.
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Can you make a video installing safe select? I want to get this jet, but want to start out on the safe side lol
You can ask for assistance on our Discord server via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord
I've long thought the F-35 looks like the F-22's chonky little brother. The real plane has some amazing capabilities, but it doesn't look that sleek. I saw one of these models yesterday at our local hobby supply, and looked up videos to see how it flies.
The 70mm F-35 from Freewing is much more true-to-scale and looks significantly better. The 64mm FMS variant is sort of a cartoon character in comparison.
Own and love this bird. It’s listed as 3s. However, as you did, I’d only recommend 4s. Also, taking the landing gear off helps shed weight and improves the flight. Great bird, just don’t forget no rudder. FMS - please make a v3 with rudder and higher amp ESC designed for 4s
Will it handle 4S stock? I’ve heard of fans blowing out after a few flights.
Do not try 3s the kv is too high..that will equal a high load on esc and higher than designed rpm at the edf
U can run 4s on this motor but expect around 75A draw on the 40A esc. No wonder the esc will fail. I run the 3150kv 4s version on 5s and have just a little more rpm than this little motor on 4s and I'm at 80A. Change ur esc to an 80A!
Hi my friend!Excellent video and i will order it soon.I have a question.Did you use a 4cell battery with change something or without?I can use 3cell and 4 cell too?Please advice!
You can use either but it's designed for 3.
Hey Jon. GREAT video as usual. Question. Using a DX9, what is the difference between the Taileron and the Elevon option. Shouldn’t the control surfaces move the same way. I’ve never used the Taileron option yet.
Elevons should be used on delta wings with no elevators - where the trailing edge surfaces function as elevators and ailerons combined into one. Taileron mixing is for models that have two servos for the elevator/stabilator surfaces and you want to use them in roll with the ailerons on the wings.
Great flying Jon. This old FMS F-35 appears to have some cool flight characteristics, cobra landing. I'd like to see you add some rudders and give it another go. AirHammer out!!
Rudders might be difficult, the way they're affixed to the fuselage isn't exactly conducive to them staying on with the stress of using rudder. Might be worth considering though.
nice!
Dude come to triple tree aerodrome this year for joe nall!! I’ll be there may 12 and 13
We'll see!
Yooo where did you get that?
Link's in the description.
Great videos. What is your favorite FMS 64mm jet?
The Rafale 64mm!
Thank you!👍
Just picked one up today, I originally planned to stick with 3s as I am new to edfs.
However would you recommend going 4s straight away?
3 is probably safer for a newer pilot.
@@TwoBrosRC perfect, thank you for the advice and keep up the great content.
i use 3s 70c fly nice downside only must hanlauch😅
I’ve bought this plane forever ago, but the church with a 4s 2200 made it incredibly nose heavy, do I just left it sitting.
Fun fact - there's a 28g weight under the plastic where the steering system is connected. You can remove that to get the weight shifted aft. You can also shove the battery further back, which is what we did here. It definitely didn't fly nose heavy, but it had to be given how much upward stab trim is required. Rather perplexing when you think about how we managed to make it pull off some of those post-stall maneuvers.
I’ve never understood why no one makes the “C” navy version. Has never made sense to me. I was dead set on buying the Rafale for my next plane but might have to pick one of these instead?
Rafale is a better choice first - 64mm or 80mm. This one is tricky to fly in comparison, but very rewarding if you set it up like ours.
Thanks for the video. and… It would be so much better if it had no music at all. Some feedback to increase your production value. 👍🏼
Most people enjoy the tracks we use in the background. Having no music is not something we're really interested in. Thanks for the input!
I love the f-35 but why does it have a different cockpit (is it the prototype?)
Also I love the ace combat aircraft selection music😂
It's an older model so it's not quite scale in appearance.
Hey Jon, I really enjoyed it like always, I have a question regarding F22, May I know what's your CG recommendation on F22 90mm?
165mm if memory serves.
@@TwoBrosRC awesome 👏
Book recommendation is 150mm,acutely I have 8s version
I just got this jet and when it came to putting the cables to the receiver I noticed that on the throttle cable had a pig tail that has one small connector and on spectrum receiver doesn’t have a slot for that. Anyone else have this issue?
It's probably for thrust reverse. You can ignore it.
@@TwoBrosRC thank you! After doing some
More research that’s what it came out to be. Been 10 yrs since I flew anything so was absolutely drawing blanks
w00t
Is that Ace Combat music? lol
It is indeed.
This is a 3s only plane maybe that’s why you burnt the first Esc
If you take note this is roughly 1000kv less than freewings model wich is 4s safe
The first ESC didn't burn, it just stopped responding. The ESC is rated for 4 cells.
@@TwoBrosRC but the motor is roughly 1000kv off , if you take the freewing f22 they use a 2900 kv and it is advertised for4S
This motor is 3900kv. So on an additional cell as we know will produce a higher load and temps both of wich can limit the longevity of the esc.
I’m speaking as a person who listened to this video and bought 4cell packs now realize that was a mistake.
Something for your viewers to consider
@@Carboneye7 We flew the second F-35 that FMS sent over many times without any issues on 4 cells. If it were a heat-related failure, the ESC would have shown damage. It was a bad unit - happens occasionally.
where is the center of gravity
Around where it's supposed to be.
My DIY F-35 seems better for me. Maybe not as agile as this one, but I wont have heart attack instead :D
Nah, you'll be fine. Just follow our quick setup tips. There's nothing to be afraid of here. It's only foam after all! It'll take impacts better than any foamboard model will, too.
I feel like having no rudder makes a jet really pointless.
It's certainly limiting.
F-35 not kobra
Nothing you wrote made any sense.
You need to review the freewing 64mm line. The f16 f18 and new f22 v2. All great planes
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Thanks the info, not going to buy 1
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