I want Larias back so badly.... this whole story is really taking to long, and I am starting to get bored.... Miska should really leave....enough of that guy....I really thought that after the kidnapping they would have been reunited, but not....This is really taking to long....
Elias chose Miska over Lari Dec 2013- that is over 1 year of denial! That is a long time to admit somebody was a substitute for the one they really were in love with (and a long time for the viewers watching this)...no matter,the truth will set you free
Elias' Story meant over one year (typo)- it is still along time. How long were Jeri and Heidi apart- starting to think the wheels of this soap move slowly.
Elias' Story Maybe Elias leaving for Brussels maybe the shock the kick starts Larias reunion as I don't see them in this state getting back together any time soon...who knows
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Only Me Yeah Lari might miss him too much and realize he loves Elias....Or Kalle might see Lari missing Elias too much and get jealous or something. Dunno.
Only Me it is just me who thinks that there is now a large crack between Elias and Lari. Lari saw Elias at the bar and step in front of him as nothing, without asking if it was okay or something like that. Just let us compare it with the time Elias was wounded, Lari not away from his side in the hospital. I think Lari lost the warmth he had with Elias. Furthermore Elias must solve its problems before returning with lari, but remain covered until once again reappear
Victorio Testa Yeah- at the moment they do seem oceans part. I agree Elias needs to solve his own problems, besides Lari has got a lot on his shoulders which is taken lightly- he is testifying against his own family. Also, Elias has snapped at Lari a few times lately- in fact the previous time they spoke when Elias got drunk at the Moose ln the morning he told Lari to give him a drink and stop patronizing him, Lari is not sure which Elias he is going to get. Add Kalle to the mix, Lari knows he can get jealous seeing them together so does not hang out too long with Elias. It is all a mess
Of course Sebastian would order Pizza from the place where Miska works being the only Pizza restaurant for miles around and of course Miska would deliver it being their only employee (sarcasm)- for all that drama the pizza did not look that appetising anyway!
Only Me Yep, she was so transparent when Elias was being honest for the first, I think even to himself, about how Miska was just a replacement for Lari and she was all "that's really true, you had your moments."
Josaphine Roche now MissFinn has pointed it out to us it is so obviously a moose on the tops but I, like you, thought it was just a pattern too! I will also be shopping for that upgrade too ha ha ha
ALISON FOLKES Sorry I don't understand as there are no spoilers! We were talking about the uniform Lari, Heidi and Jeri have been wearing the last few weeks, did someone else post a spoiler (everyone know you shouldn't)
Elias looks so sad. It's like he has no one to turn to in order to get some support. I just wonder if Elias will sad like this for a long time. It would be nice to see him happy again.
IMO there is no mileage left in the Miska./Elias storyline, it has been done to death. Elias has just admitted he has always loved lari, there is no credible way to reverse that- getting Miska and Elias back together (which I am hoping is not happening here) would be ground hog day. It would be nice if Miska stayed on the show, let him win the lottery, buy his own chain of Pizzerias, have an affair with Jeri (only joking) but I am hoping at the end he had come to tell Elias we may be friends one day in the future but nothing more
How can you hate Miska? What has he done? As Elias just said, he used Miska as a substitute for over a year. It was kind of dim of Miska to stay with Elias for so long.
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alwaysuseless I think Miska has used Elias' as Jonne's substitute in same way so they both have treated each other wrong. And I fear Miska might be again using Elias as substitute, I mean he clearly is having problems choosing between Elias and Jonne the same way Elias has with Miska and Lari.
Elias' Story Juska Reiman (Miska) does a good job with the little material they give him. I've always found him kind of boring, but that could be just because the show doesn't want to make him interesting.
As I've said before, yes Elias! Take that break to see your Mum! You really need to get out of your tiny little radius of your house and Moose. Change of pace and scenery and to be away from Sebastien/Lari/Miska is what he needs. Clearing his head and taking a break from all that festering shite that's going on.
Miska is acting as though his own actions haven't contributed to all the drama of the last year. When he wasn't storming out and telling Elias they should break up, he was raving about being jealous of Lari long before Elias even did anything with Lari. Miska knew he was a rebound when he got together with Elias. It looks like Elias was ALSO a rebound for Miska after Jonne the ex . The very first conversation Elias and Miska had at Moose was about Lari and that was the first night they slept together. Miska's many desperate attempt to keep Elias and Lari apart (the secrets and lies) show that he KNEW in his heart that Elias was still in love with Lari. Now Miska's acting like he's some saint and Elias is some irrational demon. Miska raved plenty of times and Elias forgave him. Miska wasn't shot, Miska wasn't kidnapped, Miska hasn't had his entire life in upheaval for 2 years. Jesus. Miska is the one who broke up with Elias THE SAME DAY he was freed from being kidnapped then he's surprised that Elias was angry and hurt to see him immediately back with Jonne (whom Miska had been hanging out with and Facebooking the entire time they were together and lied about it)? Come on now. I know Elias has not exactly been himself for this past year but it's not for no reason and Miska needs to learn some compassion. He could have told Elias he had a boyfriend instead of just letting Elias find out from someone else. That would have been the kind thing to do. None of these boys are saints, not Lari, not Elias and not Miska. They have all behaved badly and to be honest, how you might expect teenagers to behave. But really Miska is on my list right about now. Why did he even bother to pick up the phone? Why not just send a text saying "I'm not picking up because I no longer want to speak to you." Miska has fully participated in the drama. He stormed out at the party before Elias got shot, he stormed out after Elias was freed from being kidnapped. Ugh.
I hope Miska is not there to tell Elias he changed his mind. This is all going to screw with Elias and make him more anxious and he will act out even more.
Elias' Story I knew that was going to happen, they practically shared a room in the hospital. What is he going to do, check himself back in to be with Marianna lol
Elias' Story now Marianna's mom is lari's aunt? Poor Lari, the little family he has makes The Adams family seem normal- for his sake let us hope no more come out the wood work (his uncle will probably turn out to be a serial killer)
Thanks, MissF!!!! The frustrating thing about Miska, for me, is that we know very little about him. So, there's a lot of room for speculation, without having much to go on. But, anyway...... I've always felt that Miska wanted Elias to find out about whatever it is he has with Jonne, in order to see how Elias would react. It was always suspicious (to me) how Miska knew Elias was curious about who he was talking to, or e-mailing, but he'd brush it off. Then, he'd leave his phone and lap-top unattended in Elias' presence. Did he want Elias to find the e-mails or answer the phone? And when Elias apologizes to him, he always seems angry and thinks that Elias only wants support, or (like at the pizza place), someone to help him investigate Marianna. I get the feeling that if he felt that Elias loved him, and only him...there would be no Jonne, except as only a friend, which I think he was all of the time, anyway. IMO.
Elias is in serious need of more insightful friends. He finally admits that he used Miska as a substitute, and Ida disagrees with him. Then Miska walks in, and Elias asks why can't he go somewhere else, as if Elias has exclusive rights to frequent Moose. On top of which, Miska actually came there to talk to Elias, since Elias had said he wanted to talk and at least be friends. I hope Elias can get past Marianna & losing Lari. I want him to be happy, and I'm tired of his being such an unpleasant person. Why have they done this to Elias? Are the writers all a bunch of sourpusses?
IMHO the problem is trying to be friends with your ex having spent so little time since the breakup. Incredibly Sebastian told Elias, yes still can not believe it, another great tip for Sebastian. It takes time to heal wounds and recently there see if you can be friends with your ex or not
Victorio Testa When Sebastian was drinking at the Moose with Elias and embarrassed Elias by having a go at Lari he promised Elias afterwards that he would not interfere in Elias' personal life any more (that lasted all of a minute as he returned with Miska to the apartment). What I thought actually was insightful was lari's response, although it was a smart retort there was an element of truth in it overall that there is a problem with Eilas father- even at court when Lari is there to testify against his family and helped Sebastian family (sergei/ Elias) there seems to be little appreciation for want of a better word, he barely raises a smile when he sees Lari. I get Lari was not the ideal son-in-law at the start but there is a reason his son loves him but Sebastian pushes Miska all the time when he is not the ideal son-in-law if his son is not in love with him.
Josaphine Roche I agree with you, we have to go a long history to see a couple, just a couple, of good tips from Sebastian to Elias. As Father, Sebastian can not see beyond their own nose
Huuuum, nope. Elias said that IF MISKA DIDN'T WANT TO SEE HIM, which was what Miska said told him he wanted, then why would he go to Moose. That was before he knew Miska wanted to talk to him, because, you know, it was the opposite of what Miska said he wanted to do just a few hours before. I think that is reasonable and it doesn't make him an "unpleseant person."
rocketpit101 Gosh, this alone doesn't make Elias an unpleasant person, but he's been snippy & unpleasant for quiet a while now. True, Miska brushed Elias off when Elias called, but that doesn't mean that Miska should be expected to stay away from Moose. It's a public space that neither of them has exclusive rights to, and if after Elias' call, Miska has changed his mind about discussing whatever with Elias, that was supposedly what Elias wanted.
I really don't like Miska, never have and never will. If Elias was too much drama for Miska then Miska should've said something during the relationship. I also really hate how they keep coming back (mainly because I don't believe in second chances) but still it has to end somewhere. And Elias is right about sorta finding himself and being on his own and not have a guy mess it up for him. I hope he'll stand up for himself and reject them both until he knows what he wants and doesn't go back and forth.
Hmm Miska what are you up too😐😐😐😐 I think Elisa should go see his mum as suggested he surely do need a brake from the neighbourhood & come back when is ready to face everyone I think that way he can clear his head.
Personally I kinda like that Sebastian still likes Miska. I've always have been a big fan of Miska. I totally understand why he broke up with Elias, but I don't understand why Elias did what he did. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if Elias and Miska get back together. Sure I know that Elias and Lari will soon reunite, and that will be fine. But as it is now, I'm just hating the fact that Miska is on the outs right now. Clearly even the writers are trying to figure out a way to keep Miska involved with Elias somehow. Even they are having a hard time totally taring them apart from each other. Its seems that Sebastian is Miska's only life line to Elias, and Sebastian is all to willing to help. Its just cool that Sebastian has found someone that he totally approves of for Elias. He really seems to like Miska, not only that, he seems to like spending time with him himself. When you think about it, Sebastian was pretty hard on Miska and un-trusting of him in the beginning. Now the two get along so well, even Oliver loves him. Even if Miska and Elias are no longer together, I really want Miska to stay on the show. He's just such a great character. One of the things I like about MIska is that he's so mature and straight forward, that you really never know what he's about to say. And whatever that may be, he's so earnest about it. I like that Miska doesn't nor likes to play games. I like that he knows who he is, and what he wants. He's not, searching for himself, he just wants a solid boyfriend. I hope that Sebastian keeps the pressure on Miska to get back together with Elias. I really don't think that Elias nor Lari are ready for each other yet.
Something unexpected is going on with Miska and Jonne. Maybe Jonne is not really Miska's boyfriend, but a family member or old friend...we've never seen anything romantic between friends. Something else in going on, and I think it will be revealed in time.
That pizza looked like a prop that had been around for a while. We never saw either Sebastian or Elias actually eat any of it-which is probably a good thing.
i dont know why elias dad is always forcing things or forcing him to date mishka. while his son is going thru trauma and nervous breakdown and he does nothing to halp him.terrible!
Can someone answer these questions? Did everyone (Elias, Miska for starters) actually graduate from high school? Are they adults yet? I guess Lari had to grow up quickly and drop out of school because of his father. Just wondering....
Elias' Story In other words, they are still kids! An 18 year old that is still in school is BY NO WAY an adult. Where I come from it was the same. You finished high school at 18. Only then did you (maybe) become an adult. Preferably you went on to university and you certainly did not entertain the idea of marriage, pregnancy , setting up house and all that "adult stuff". To call them 18 year old adults, as you do, is ludicrous. An adult has responsibilities whereas a scholar (teen still in school) should only be concerning themselves with their education. Certainly not getting engaged. I have found the story line rather bizarre that these teenagers are still in school, but trying to play happy families. It does raise a big question mark about the type of parenting involved (or lack of in Sebastien's case)
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monk3yboy69 They are adults in front of law. When you turn 18, it's a huge step in Finland at least. You get lots of responsibilities and you are not anymore a kid.
Elias' Story they are adults- if it is not compulsory and it is their decision then they are adults. The law says they are adults, they can make their own decision to continue with education like Elias and Ida, work like Lari has, travel the world like Matalana has, join the army and die for your country! Being adult is being given the right to chose your own destiny. If you were to commit a crime you would be tried in an adult court no question at 18 years , you can get married, drink alcohol, drive. Just because you choose to stay on in education doesn't make you any less an adult, you are making a choice! Look at the court case, if Elias and lari weren't adults they couldn't testify in court openly like that, the would have had to have had a legal guardian and maybe even testify somewhere else, in another room.
Thanks. For someone whom never been to Europe, I didn't want to get the wrong idea about the Finnish society. I realize we are talking about actors in a soap opera, but usually storylines in soaps make sense or at least you can follow them. I still can't figure out how Mariana was able to knock out and drag four people into her apartment (some from outside the building), into her sound proof bedroom . that she converted complete with chains welded to the foundation and walls , and absolutely NOBODY noticed. Even if she brought them up the elevator, that elevator that can barely fit two people at one time standing up, or she carried them up the stairs (2-3 flights of stairs), how can Wonder Women not run into anybody while she is performing her magic?? And, don't get me started about Sebastian, the next winner of the "Father Of The Year" award ! I had to say something. Thanks.
yeah defiently , and he will get more hurt than he did when him and lari broke up , he needs to get away for a bit and work on his self , instead of using other people to make him feel better because being with someoen is dealing with your problems its just making them worst with bottling them up .
La verdad ya me esta aburriendo todo esto..ya que si lari con kalle en esta relacion no hay nada de quimica....si elias con miska no hay nada de química entre ellos ..le siguieron a los escritores que hagan algo nuevo .....ya dejen atras el paso....ya Tiene un año con lo de elias y con miska ....no surgio nada entre ellos peros problemas....hagan algo nuevo para ambos personajes....!!!!!
I really want Lari and Elias to be together but with ever romance there's a wall to break and that wall is Miska. Just Miska go away we don't like you well I don't anyway.
It almost seems like Elias needs to be with someone - he is virtually acknowledging Miska to be the rebound yet if what Miska offers here means that Elias is prepared to take him back or follow his lead - what could Miska be after? Is it money? Or is it resentment - which would be down to the fact that we all know who his true love is for and now he wants revenge? I have been a keen follower of the storyline since back in 2012 and I have very kind permission to share my new site - www.samueldm.com. It is by no means related to the story but I am just trying to give it a push in its early days. Thanks so much everyone and I look forward to seeing how this storyline unfolds!!
Tää eliaksen ja Lariaksen tarina on niittäny mainetta Etelä-Amerikkaan asti. Sen takia monet kirjoittaa englanniksi ja tekstityksetkin on useammalle eri kielelle.
Damnit, Miska! You were perfect over the phone--I adore Elias, but he's caused you major trouble, so getting away from him would be best. And Elias was finally coming to his senses about how he's been using you as an enabler, to escape his pain instead of dealing with it. DON'T SCREW UP HIS CHANCES.
Dear Miska. He's so kindhearted I knew he'd change his mind :)
I want Larias back so badly.... this whole story is really taking to long, and I am starting to get bored.... Miska should really leave....enough of that guy....I really thought that after the kidnapping they would have been reunited, but not....This is really taking to long....
U R right : too long, too much long. Consider how down the wiewers are!
You are so right I am tried too to see miska It time for lari and Elias be together now that Why we,state. Watch the. Story line,
And of course that when Elias decides to be alone for a while Miska wants to talk.
Elias chose Miska over Lari Dec 2013- that is over 1 year of denial! That is a long time to admit somebody was a substitute for the one they really were in love with (and a long time for the viewers watching this)...no matter,the truth will set you free
Elias' Story meant over one year (typo)- it is still along time. How long were Jeri and Heidi apart- starting to think the wheels of this soap move slowly.
Elias' Story Maybe Elias leaving for Brussels maybe the shock the kick starts Larias reunion as I don't see them in this state getting back together any time soon...who knows
Only Me Yeah Lari might miss him too much and realize he loves Elias....Or Kalle might see Lari missing Elias too much and get jealous or something. Dunno.
Only Me it is just me who thinks that there is now a large crack between Elias and Lari. Lari saw Elias at the bar and step in front of him as nothing, without asking if it was okay or something like that. Just let us compare it with the time Elias was wounded, Lari not away from his side in the hospital. I think Lari lost the warmth he had with Elias.
Furthermore Elias must solve its problems before returning with lari, but remain covered until once again reappear
Victorio Testa Yeah- at the moment they do seem oceans part. I agree Elias needs to solve his own problems, besides Lari has got a lot on his shoulders which is taken lightly- he is testifying against his own family. Also, Elias has snapped at Lari a few times lately- in fact the previous time they spoke when Elias got drunk at the Moose ln the morning he told Lari to give him a drink and stop patronizing him, Lari is not sure which Elias he is going to get. Add Kalle to the mix, Lari knows he can get jealous seeing them together so does not hang out too long with Elias. It is all a mess
Of course Sebastian would order Pizza from the place where Miska works being the only Pizza restaurant for miles around and of course Miska would deliver it being their only employee (sarcasm)- for all that drama the pizza did not look that appetising anyway!
Sebastian still ships Miska/Elias hard.
rocketpit101 yeah he does
rocketpit101 Ida too to some extent
Only Me Yep, she was so transparent when Elias was being honest for the first, I think even to himself, about how Miska was just a replacement for Lari and she was all "that's really true, you had your moments."
You stole my thoughts. Only one pizzeria in town and has only one employee as there is only one bar in town and everyone goes there
Elias has finally come to his senses! And he does look a lot better then when he was in all that mess.
As Lari, Jeri and Heidi have all been wearing tops with the same design, I guess that is The Moose's new uniform then
Josaphine Roche Yes, there's a moose in the shirt.
Elias' Story I did not make the Moose out...I thought it was just a pattern lol- need to upgrade my laptop
Josaphine Roche now MissFinn has pointed it out to us it is so obviously a moose on the tops but I, like you, thought it was just a pattern too! I will also be shopping for that upgrade too ha ha ha
Only Me can say Why I will not watch tomorrow episode only reading the spoiled that.
ALISON FOLKES Sorry I don't understand as there are no spoilers! We were talking about the uniform Lari, Heidi and Jeri have been wearing the last few weeks, did someone else post a spoiler (everyone know you shouldn't)
don't they have a delivery guy in the pizzeria where Miska works?
i mean, he cooks the pizza, serves the tables, clean the place and delivers pizzas
LMAO
Welcome to the world of soap. As soon as I heard Sebastian say "I ordered some pizza", I knew Miska would be the one delivering it. LMAOF
*LMAO
Elias looks so sad. It's like he has no one to turn to in order to get some support. I just wonder if Elias will sad like this for a long time. It would be nice to see him happy again.
I feel sad for Elias. He has gone through enough troubles. Lari should choose him as they're perfect together.
IMO there is no mileage left in the Miska./Elias storyline, it has been done to death. Elias has just admitted he has always loved lari, there is no credible way to reverse that- getting Miska and Elias back together (which I am hoping is not happening here) would be ground hog day. It would be nice if Miska stayed on the show, let him win the lottery, buy his own chain of Pizzerias, have an affair with Jeri (only joking) but I am hoping at the end he had come to tell Elias we may be friends one day in the future but nothing more
this like that song,the long and winding road that leads to LARIAS
Come on Sebastian! In your city there is just one pizzeria?! Please, next time call a Chinese restaurant! Omg! I hate Miska!
How can you hate Miska? What has he done? As Elias just said, he used Miska as a substitute for over a year. It was kind of dim of Miska to stay with Elias for so long.
alwaysuseless I think Miska has used Elias' as Jonne's substitute in same way so they both have treated each other wrong. And I fear Miska might be again using Elias as substitute, I mean he clearly is having problems choosing between Elias and Jonne the same way Elias has with Miska and Lari.
Elias' Story Does Miska have a storyline beyond his scenes with Elias?
Elias' Story Juska Reiman (Miska) does a good job with the little material they give him. I've always found him kind of boring, but that could be just because the show doesn't want to make him interesting.
alwaysuseless I know! I don't like him!
Aaw, I felt really bad for Elias. I want to see him happy again!
As I've said before, yes Elias! Take that break to see your Mum! You really need to get out of your tiny little radius of your house and Moose. Change of pace and scenery and to be away from Sebastien/Lari/Miska is what he needs. Clearing his head and taking a break from all that festering shite that's going on.
Miska is acting as though his own actions haven't contributed to all the drama of the last year. When he wasn't storming out and telling Elias they should break up, he was raving about being jealous of Lari long before Elias even did anything with Lari.
Miska knew he was a rebound when he got together with Elias.
It looks like Elias was ALSO a rebound for Miska after Jonne the ex . The very first conversation Elias and Miska had at Moose was about Lari and that was the first night they slept together. Miska's many desperate attempt to keep Elias and Lari apart (the secrets and lies) show that he KNEW in his heart that Elias was still in love with Lari.
Now Miska's acting like he's some saint and Elias is some irrational demon. Miska raved plenty of times and Elias forgave him. Miska wasn't shot, Miska wasn't kidnapped, Miska hasn't had his entire life in upheaval for 2 years. Jesus.
Miska is the one who broke up with Elias THE SAME DAY he was freed from being kidnapped then he's surprised that Elias was angry and hurt to see him immediately back with Jonne (whom Miska had been hanging out with and Facebooking the entire time they were together and lied about it)?
Come on now. I know Elias has not exactly been himself for this past year but it's not for no reason and Miska needs to learn some compassion. He could have told Elias he had a boyfriend instead of just letting Elias find out from someone else. That would have been the kind thing to do.
None of these boys are saints, not Lari, not Elias and not Miska. They have all behaved badly and to be honest, how you might expect teenagers to behave. But really Miska is on my list right about now. Why did he even bother to pick up the phone? Why not just send a text saying "I'm not picking up because I no longer want to speak to you." Miska has fully participated in the drama. He stormed out at the party before Elias got shot, he stormed out after Elias was freed from being kidnapped. Ugh.
I hope Miska is not there to tell Elias he changed his mind. This is all going to screw with Elias and make him more anxious and he will act out even more.
Did we get a verdict in the Marianna storyline today for those who watch full episodes- just hoping that storyline is over
Elias' Story I bet that is going to go down like a lead balloon with Elias family- for Lari it will be different. Thanks for your work!!!!!!!!!
Elias' Story I knew that was going to happen, they practically shared a room in the hospital. What is he going to do, check himself back in to be with Marianna lol
Elias' Story now Marianna's mom is lari's aunt? Poor Lari, the little family he has makes The Adams family seem normal- for his sake let us hope no more come out the wood work (his uncle will probably turn out to be a serial killer)
Josaphine Roche OMG!
Thanks, MissF!!!!
The frustrating thing about Miska, for me, is that
we know very little about him. So, there's a lot of
room for speculation, without having much to go on.
But, anyway......
I've always felt that Miska wanted Elias to find out
about whatever it is he has with Jonne, in order to
see how Elias would react. It was always suspicious
(to me) how Miska knew Elias was curious about who
he was talking to, or e-mailing, but he'd brush it off.
Then, he'd leave his phone and lap-top unattended in
Elias' presence. Did he want Elias to find the e-mails
or answer the phone?
And when Elias apologizes to him, he always seems
angry and thinks that Elias only wants support, or (like
at the pizza place), someone to help him investigate
Marianna.
I get the feeling that if he felt that Elias loved him, and
only him...there would be no Jonne, except as only a friend,
which I think he was all of the time, anyway. IMO.
Miska is so fabulously good looking. I would be glad to share him with Jonne.
Elias is in serious need of more insightful friends. He finally admits that he used Miska as a substitute, and Ida disagrees with him. Then Miska walks in, and Elias asks why can't he go somewhere else, as if Elias has exclusive rights to frequent Moose. On top of which, Miska actually came there to talk to Elias, since Elias had said he wanted to talk and at least be friends. I hope Elias can get past Marianna & losing Lari. I want him to be happy, and I'm tired of his being such an unpleasant person. Why have they done this to Elias? Are the writers all a bunch of sourpusses?
IMHO the problem is trying to be friends with your ex having spent so little time since the breakup. Incredibly Sebastian told Elias, yes still can not believe it, another great tip for Sebastian. It takes time to heal wounds and recently there see if you can be friends with your ex or not
Victorio Testa When Sebastian was drinking at the Moose with Elias and embarrassed Elias by having a go at Lari he promised Elias afterwards that he would not interfere in Elias' personal life any more (that lasted all of a minute as he returned with Miska to the apartment). What I thought actually was insightful was lari's response, although it was a smart retort there was an element of truth in it overall that there is a problem with Eilas father- even at court when Lari is there to testify against his family and helped Sebastian family (sergei/ Elias) there seems to be little appreciation for want of a better word, he barely raises a smile when he sees Lari. I get Lari was not the ideal son-in-law at the start but there is a reason his son loves him but Sebastian pushes Miska all the time when he is not the ideal son-in-law if his son is not in love with him.
Josaphine Roche I agree with you, we have to go a long history to see a couple, just a couple, of good tips from Sebastian to Elias. As Father, Sebastian can not see beyond their own nose
Huuuum, nope. Elias said that IF MISKA DIDN'T WANT TO SEE HIM, which was what Miska said told him he wanted, then why would he go to Moose. That was before he knew Miska wanted to talk to him, because, you know, it was the opposite of what Miska said he wanted to do just a few hours before. I think that is reasonable and it doesn't make him an "unpleseant person."
rocketpit101 Gosh, this alone doesn't make Elias an unpleasant person, but he's been snippy & unpleasant for quiet a while now. True, Miska brushed Elias off when Elias called, but that doesn't mean that Miska should be expected to stay away from Moose. It's a public space that neither of them has exclusive rights to, and if after Elias' call, Miska has changed his mind about discussing whatever with Elias, that was supposedly what Elias wanted.
I really don't like Miska, never have and never will. If Elias was too much drama for Miska then Miska should've said something during the relationship. I also really hate how they keep coming back (mainly because I don't believe in second chances) but still it has to end somewhere. And Elias is right about sorta finding himself and being on his own and not have a guy mess it up for him. I hope he'll stand up for himself and reject them both until he knows what he wants and doesn't go back and forth.
"No, I just wish we could at least be friends. You are still dear to me"
*Now where have we heard this phrase before?*
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! DON'T LEAVE ELIAS!
but Petteri actually away on holiday for a bit (USA, Thailand) as this is filmed 3 months in advance maybe it coincides with his real life trip
Josaphine Roche I hope not. :(
cool
Hmm Miska what are you up too😐😐😐😐 I think Elisa should go see his mum as suggested he surely do need a brake from the neighbourhood & come back when is ready to face everyone I think that way he can clear his head.
Only Lari can help him, I think Kalle will do "best job" and our laris will united.
Personally I kinda like that Sebastian still likes Miska. I've always have been a big fan of Miska. I totally understand why he broke up with Elias, but I don't understand why Elias did what he did. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if Elias and Miska get back together. Sure I know that Elias and Lari will soon reunite, and that will be fine. But as it is now, I'm just hating the fact that Miska is on the outs right now. Clearly even the writers are trying to figure out a way to keep Miska involved with Elias somehow. Even they are having a hard time totally taring them apart from each other.
Its seems that Sebastian is Miska's only life line to Elias, and Sebastian is all to willing to help. Its just cool that Sebastian has found someone that he totally approves of for Elias. He really seems to like Miska, not only that, he seems to like spending time with him himself. When you think about it, Sebastian was pretty hard on Miska and un-trusting of him in the beginning. Now the two get along so well, even Oliver loves him.
Even if Miska and Elias are no longer together, I really want Miska to stay on the show. He's just such a great character. One of the things I like about MIska is that he's so mature and straight forward, that you really never know what he's about to say. And whatever that may be, he's so earnest about it. I like that Miska doesn't nor likes to play games. I like that he knows who he is, and what he wants. He's not, searching for himself, he just wants a solid boyfriend.
I hope that Sebastian keeps the pressure on Miska to get back together with Elias. I really don't think that Elias nor Lari are ready for each other yet.
The only things i love to thank you to miska is he deciced to leave elias...
I like wise Elias 😄
Just RUN ELIAS. Don't look back. Run like the fucking wind!
I can't believe Elias had three 'bears' before going to court. He must be one tough kid to fight off 3 'bears'. Or, is it beers?
"I have a limit of three bears..."
Elias to Ida "I new someone completely new". Is this the comeback of the guy Ida presented to Elias and Tale a lot of time ago :p ?
where's part 307
Two Points to Elias, both drunk and ill tempered at once- you would do the stereothypical Finn proud. -.-*
0:52 Eemil???
I thought miska had finally come to his senses and abandoned Elias which has only used him and lari 🤦
I am undecided about whether the light on the wall in Sebastian's flat (visible at 3.12) looks more like an eye or a breast.
I can't unsee now.
Something unexpected is going on with Miska and Jonne. Maybe Jonne is not really Miska's boyfriend, but a family member or old friend...we've never seen anything romantic between friends. Something else in going on, and I think it will be revealed in time.
It may just be me but who eats pizza with a knife and fork?
That pizza looked like a prop that had been around for a while. We never saw either Sebastian or Elias actually eat any of it-which is probably a good thing.
Yes Elais you need a new face. This back and forth between you and Lari is getting tiring.
i dont know why elias dad is always forcing things or forcing him to date mishka. while his son is going thru trauma and nervous breakdown and he does nothing to halp him.terrible!
5:36 YOU NEED TO BE ALONE! For now.
Can someone answer these questions? Did everyone (Elias, Miska for starters) actually graduate from high school? Are they adults yet? I guess Lari had to grow up quickly and drop out of school because of his father. Just wondering....
Elias' Story In other words, they are still kids! An 18 year old that is still in school is BY NO WAY an adult. Where I come from it was the same. You finished high school at 18. Only then did you (maybe) become an adult. Preferably you went on to university and you certainly did not entertain the idea of marriage, pregnancy , setting up house and all that "adult stuff".
To call them 18 year old adults, as you do, is ludicrous. An adult has responsibilities whereas a scholar (teen still in school) should only be concerning themselves with their education. Certainly not getting engaged. I have found the story line rather bizarre that these teenagers are still in school, but trying to play happy families. It does raise a big question mark about the type of parenting involved (or lack of in Sebastien's case)
monk3yboy69 They are adults in front of law. When you turn 18, it's a huge step in Finland at least. You get lots of responsibilities and you are not anymore a kid.
Elias' Story they are adults- if it is not compulsory and it is their decision then they are adults. The law says they are adults, they can make their own decision to continue with education like Elias and Ida, work like Lari has, travel the world like Matalana has, join the army and die for your country! Being adult is being given the right to chose your own destiny. If you were to commit a crime you would be tried in an adult court no question at 18 years , you can get married, drink alcohol, drive. Just because you choose to stay on in education doesn't make you any less an adult, you are making a choice! Look at the court case, if Elias and lari weren't adults they couldn't testify in court openly like that, the would have had to have had a legal guardian and maybe even testify somewhere else, in another room.
Thanks. For someone whom never been to Europe, I didn't want to get the wrong idea about the Finnish society. I realize we are talking about actors in a soap opera, but usually storylines in soaps make sense or at least you can follow them. I still can't figure out how Mariana was able to knock out and drag four people into her apartment (some from outside the building), into her sound proof bedroom . that she converted complete with chains welded to the foundation and walls , and absolutely NOBODY noticed. Even if she brought them up the elevator, that elevator that can barely fit two people at one time standing up, or she carried them up the stairs (2-3 flights of stairs), how can Wonder Women not run into anybody while she is performing her magic?? And, don't get me started about Sebastian, the next winner of the "Father Of The Year" award ! I had to say something. Thanks.
OMFG,this storyline is dragging too fucking long.I'm so sick of Elias now....(but thank u for uploading,thank u very much)
I think Elias and miska get back together after the talk and they kiss , what is Elias doing, but I wonder if miska is just playing him
yeah defiently , and he will get more hurt than he did when him and lari broke up , he needs to get away for a bit and work on his self , instead of using other people to make him feel better because being with someoen is dealing with your problems its just making them worst with bottling them up .
anyone else eats pizza with knife and fork?
La verdad ya me esta aburriendo todo esto..ya que si lari con kalle en esta relacion no hay nada de quimica....si elias con miska no hay nada de química entre ellos ..le siguieron a los escritores que hagan algo nuevo .....ya dejen atras el paso....ya Tiene un año con lo de elias y con miska ....no surgio nada entre ellos peros problemas....hagan algo nuevo para ambos personajes....!!!!!
Miten kaks pitsaa voi maksaa 20€😂😂😂
normaali hinta?
GamingWithMustikka eihä ole xd
I really want Lari and Elias to be together but with ever romance there's a wall to break and that wall is Miska. Just Miska go away we don't like you well I don't anyway.
It almost seems like Elias needs to be with someone - he is virtually acknowledging Miska to be the rebound yet if what Miska offers here means that Elias is prepared to take him back or follow his lead - what could Miska be after? Is it money? Or is it resentment - which would be down to the fact that we all know who his true love is for and now he wants revenge?
I have been a keen follower of the storyline since back in 2012 and I have very kind permission to share my new site - www.samueldm.com.
It is by no means related to the story but I am just trying to give it a push in its early days.
Thanks so much everyone and I look forward to seeing how this storyline unfolds!!
i remember buying a nokia smartphone because of this show. please, enough of this miska/kalle nonsense already!!
ekaXDDDDDDD
Kaikki vaan puhuu täällä enkkuu why? Salkkarit on suomalainen sarja ja monet täällä jotka kommentoi on suomalaisii
Tää eliaksen ja Lariaksen tarina on niittäny mainetta Etelä-Amerikkaan asti. Sen takia monet kirjoittaa englanniksi ja tekstityksetkin on useammalle eri kielelle.
elias is acting a bit like a..........a.......aaa........ MANCHILD .............. get your act up
lol kaikki kirjotti enkkuu
Mitäs jos tän videon tarkotus on se että ulkomaalaisetkin vois kattoo tätä, kun tässä on englanniks ne tekstitykset...
Damnit, Miska! You were perfect over the phone--I adore Elias, but he's caused you major trouble, so getting away from him would be best. And Elias was finally coming to his senses about how he's been using you as an enabler, to escape his pain instead of dealing with it. DON'T SCREW UP HIS CHANCES.