CZ New P-09 C Nocturne, What We Didn't Like!

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  • Опубліковано 26 жов 2024

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  • @generousghibli6031
    @generousghibli6031 Місяць тому +36

    Imagine being a gun reviewer and and not knowing that the double action is supposed to be long and heavy because it's a safety measure.

    • @TheRogueElement
      @TheRogueElement Місяць тому +8

      A whole generation who had never fired da/sa until they finally got bored with Glock 🤷‍♂️

    • @toddlancaster5298
      @toddlancaster5298 Місяць тому +1

      And it looked like he was pulling at the top of the trigger with the gauge also

    • @brianjones1151
      @brianjones1151 28 днів тому

      Exactly what I was thinking !👍

    • @fubar1984
      @fubar1984 21 день тому +4

      But you can just add the manual safety and get a "significantly improved trigger pull" 😂. Proof that owning a gun and a camera shouldn't be enough to 'review' a firearm.

    • @BlackSuperman643
      @BlackSuperman643 2 години тому

      Exactly. Like wtf

  • @danmatthews5364
    @danmatthews5364 Місяць тому +11

    So… it’s a p07 with an optic cut. So it’s a great gun. Heard

  • @justinballard7242
    @justinballard7242 17 днів тому +3

    The cz omega trigger is a simpler design than the traditional 75. It doesnt feel as nice but its dead reliable and durable

  • @TARandFEATHERS
    @TARandFEATHERS 21 день тому +3

    I'm not a gun expert, but my P-07 is FANTASTIC. And a helluva lot safer than a striker fired. An 80 yr old female shot mine with zero problems.

  • @TMAquatics
    @TMAquatics 5 днів тому

    A $29 MCarbo spring kit and the double action trigger cleans up to 6.5 pounds. The SA is between 2.5-3 pounds. It’s a great gun at a phenomenal price.

  • @TheRealEtaoinShrdlu
    @TheRealEtaoinShrdlu Місяць тому +5

    The long DA pull is the safety. You really don't want it much lighter.

  • @The_Disgruntled_Operator
    @The_Disgruntled_Operator Місяць тому +21

    Throw some Cajun seasoning on it, and you'll be fine.

    • @10Sethg
      @10Sethg Місяць тому

      😂

    • @Jacobskii91
      @Jacobskii91 Місяць тому +6

      If you know, you know 😏

  • @Sirgromulus
    @Sirgromulus Місяць тому +22

    A $29 Cajun Gun Works spring upgrade kit makes a huge difference in the trigger pull. Add a $20 extended firing pin for even more improvement.

    • @DTWCT
      @DTWCT Місяць тому +3

      What does the extended firing pin do

    • @Sirgromulus
      @Sirgromulus Місяць тому +6

      @DTWCT It comes with a reduced power FP spring. The extended length ensures reliable ignition with reduced power hammer springs and reduces the trigger weight slightly.

    • @MRsolidcolor
      @MRsolidcolor Місяць тому

      not really i have it..

    • @MRsolidcolor
      @MRsolidcolor Місяць тому

      @@DTWCT cause issues with being drop safe

    • @MRsolidcolor
      @MRsolidcolor Місяць тому

      @@Sirgromulus thats not what he asked.
      and your wrong completely
      i have the spring set in my gun.. with out the upgrade the spring is 12 lbs "new" with the upgrade its like 10 lbs... and its only for the double action... just shoot the gun and it will work its self out.. if you shot 3k round down range it drops to the same weight as the "upgrades"

  • @LVbibby
    @LVbibby Місяць тому +3

    CZ wins baby! Thanks for the content.

  • @mezzanoon
    @mezzanoon Місяць тому +4

    The heavy double action makes me feel a lot safer running with decocker only

    • @CR3W1SH03S
      @CR3W1SH03S Місяць тому

      That's the point. Same reason revolvers never had a safety. DA/SA doesn't need one either. One of these days I'm going to do the G mod to my M9.

  • @stevekathylane1808
    @stevekathylane1808 Місяць тому +1

    The heavy double action is an easy and inexpensive fix. Have the CZ75 Omega and put in lighter hammer spring. It is still as reliable as before .

  • @factspirate99
    @factspirate99 Місяць тому +9

    I've got a PO-9 F original version and its freaking sick. Holds 25 with mag extension. Shits the real deal and shoots so smooth.

    • @Maltmix
      @Maltmix Місяць тому +1

      Just ordered the 9F Nocturne super excited to get it. What mag extension are you running?

    • @factspirate99
      @factspirate99 Місяць тому

      @Maltmix The full size p-09 is effing sick. Obviously not for cc but it's so dang smooth and fits in the fand perfectly. I don't have huge hands. The new version is probably insane. Perfect for walking the woods we're there might be dangerous animals or on your side for your load out. Mags match the p10 mags too so you could have p09 on your side and p10c on you somewhere else.

    • @MkArms1997
      @MkArms1997 Місяць тому +1

      I just got the p09 c nocturne , imma get the full size for my home defense ! I shot 250 rounds through the compact and it was accurate out the box

  • @MasterBetty69
    @MasterBetty69 Місяць тому +8

    I'll stay with my P-07.

    • @waynekulas5163
      @waynekulas5163 Місяць тому

      How does yours shoot with 124’s? Mine hits about 8” high at 25 yards.

    • @MasterBetty69
      @MasterBetty69 Місяць тому +1

      @@waynekulas5163 perfect. I carry Hornady 124 grain. I've had some internals polished but other than that haven't done any internal modifications. Shoots like a dream & will always be more accurate than me. Have you contacted CZ to try to have it fixed? I've never contacted their customer support because I've never had to but I'll see what I can find for you. It's a wonderful pistol, I want it working properly for you.

    • @waynekulas5163
      @waynekulas5163 Місяць тому

      @@MasterBetty69 my front sight must be too short. I changed them out for tritium several years ago.

    • @MasterBetty69
      @MasterBetty69 Місяць тому

      @@waynekulas5163 that would explain it! When I was a new shooter years & years ago I installed sights on my Glock & my rear sight was taller than my front but just barely so I couldn't figure out that's what the issue was. Only when someone more experienced shot my pistol & told me I knew. Get some new sights on it & run it.

  • @billdrill22
    @billdrill22 Місяць тому +7

    Not to mention you’ll be able to find plenty of aftermarket companies who will make that trigger substantially better.

    • @MRsolidcolor
      @MRsolidcolor Місяць тому

      there is nothing to be done with the omega triggers you are wrong as 2 boys Fing
      all you can do it make it o from a 12 to a 10 but if you used the gun it does that on its own and all you have to do is shoot...

  • @SherwinTalinao
    @SherwinTalinao Місяць тому

    The gun comes with a dummy round with rubber inserts. Dry fire it until the trigger smooth out a bit. CGW upgrades will also improve trigger pulls.

  • @justlooking2902
    @justlooking2902 12 днів тому

    Heavy first pull is kinda the point for some.

  • @3wheelmannc860
    @3wheelmannc860 Місяць тому

    I noticed that same horrible trigger at my shop... my prior full tac P07 with the omega trigger is spot on. It will remain a keeper. Thankfully there will be reasonable trigger mods as that platform is solid, being the da/sa.

  • @boogermeister1
    @boogermeister1 2 дні тому

    I bought a P07 when they first came out. Gun shot well enough, but was a harsh gun to shoot. Seemed real snappy for a 9mm, maybe the plastic the frame was made of? By comparison, my XDM shoots great, and is real soft to shoot with the same loads. Liked the look of the CZ better though.

  • @IdeaSpyTwoPointFive
    @IdeaSpyTwoPointFive Місяць тому

    I'm hoping they'll make sleeves or extended baseplates so the 19 round magazines fit without a gap!

  • @bradleycampbell1634
    @bradleycampbell1634 Місяць тому +1

    Try hitting the slide stop with your support hand instead of using your thumb on your dominant hand

    • @MRsolidcolor
      @MRsolidcolor Місяць тому

      the guy is a dumb ass and not sure how he has a channel he just gives out BAD information..

    • @pcpolice7937
      @pcpolice7937 13 днів тому

      Yeah Duh

  • @82lowe36id
    @82lowe36id Місяць тому +4

    Out of the box, the P07 (P09C)and P09 have never had great triggers, but like you stated, they are just so easy to shoot well for some reason.

    • @10Sethg
      @10Sethg Місяць тому

      A major component of accuracy is being surprised when the gun fires. I’ve noticed the trigger on these, though “bad” is really hard to predict when it will fire which helps a lot with accuracy.

    • @MRsolidcolor
      @MRsolidcolor Місяць тому

      except they have a better trigger then 99% of all striker fired guns... you have no idea what you are talking abut....

    • @MRsolidcolor
      @MRsolidcolor Місяць тому

      @@10Sethg tell me you dont really shoot with out telling me you shoot.. i have thousands of rounds in the p09 and its the best trigger i have ever shot.. the fact that you are SO clueless just proves morons have guns to...
      better then the hkvp9 i own.
      better then the m&p 2.0 i own
      better then the glock 45 i own
      better then the fn509 i own
      so what are you trying to compare it to.. because im call you out as you have no idea what you talking about..

  • @nickp.2432
    @nickp.2432 Місяць тому +3

    Mcarbo has the spring kit to make that trigger perfect..

  • @billassande7628
    @billassande7628 Місяць тому +3

    I ran P07's for a couple of years before moving on to other platforms. For a polymer DASA pistol it's a accurate, reliable and a joy to shoot. The OMEGA trigger system is not as smooth as the original CZ triggers but it is much easier to work on. As others have posted Cajun Gunworks offer a great upgrade package that will IMO put the trigger up there with a LTT Beretta.

    • @MRsolidcolor
      @MRsolidcolor Місяць тому

      no it dont..the set you are talking about only make sht eDA pull lighter.. if you go to the range and shoo the gun you wont need it.. and if you have 3-5k rounds in the gun and try to change it, its not gonna be as good. ask me how i know...

  • @tnsteel
    @tnsteel Місяць тому +11

    Sights are "contrast". Not tritium.

    • @DarkPhoenixTSi
      @DarkPhoenixTSi Місяць тому

      Luminescent, means they glow in the dark after being charged by a light source.

    • @tnsteel
      @tnsteel Місяць тому +1

      @@DarkPhoenixTSi Yes sir, I mispoke there but have had those sights on several CZ guns, and they are not very useful in my opinion. Unlike tritium. If you have a red dot you won't care.

  • @sawtoothcurruthers3561
    @sawtoothcurruthers3561 Місяць тому +1

    My dude could not be more over this intro lol.

  • @michaelkerr9682
    @michaelkerr9682 Місяць тому

    Typical CZ 75 load recouping because of the way it's made. I had a CZ 75 clone and the '80s I liked it it shot well this one I'm thinking about. I may not replace my PX4 compact but we'll see what happens

  • @wendellhatcher7011
    @wendellhatcher7011 Місяць тому +3

    So, it is a great gun 😂

  • @JuanSanchez-xi6fn
    @JuanSanchez-xi6fn 22 дні тому

    Cz p10F 🙌

  • @Softballcrazy
    @Softballcrazy Місяць тому

    Why doesn’t Cz make.45 acp guns. Id like to see this in 45!!

    • @Maschine_Fuhrer
      @Maschine_Fuhrer 14 днів тому

      Because we Are in NATO And nato do not use 45.

  • @loquat4440
    @loquat4440 Місяць тому

    I have had a norturne for slightly over a day. My observations pretty much agree with yours and while I have not fired it yet, I do like the gun. I purchased it to obtain a bit more of a safety factor over the G19 that I carry and to have a better trigger on single action then what one safely can get out of a glock. The Double action trigger seems to have improved a little just from the dry fire. I seem to pinch the skin of trigger finger when pulling it. But it does not feel like 11-12 lbs to me. But then around my place I carry a sigma VE smith and wesson that has a heavier pull and two handed I can shoot the head of water moccasin with it.
    The controls are a little awkward for my hand but the gun comes with 15 round mag, I do not see the normal need for a super rapid mag change. I have normal large male palm size with shorter, but thicker fingers. Even with a decocker, I still when possible use the thumb of the opposed hand to cushion the fall to the safety notch.
    I will leave it with the decocker lever in place and add a safety and carry it with the hammer in the 1/4 safety position. Makes it faster to thumb cock to go single action. For now I am likening it a lot. For now I will not mess with the trigger springs, but might in the future. I might try a fluff and buff of the trigger parts like some used to do for the keltec pistols.

  • @michaelogden5093
    @michaelogden5093 Місяць тому +2

    Tritium, are you sure?

  • @TheRealEtaoinShrdlu
    @TheRealEtaoinShrdlu Місяць тому

    Accessory rail got a massive downgrade for some reason.

    • @RouterSystem-70
      @RouterSystem-70 Місяць тому

      No it looks better. Rail notches are hideous

  • @jamesm2881
    @jamesm2881 Місяць тому +1

    Love the p07. Cajun gun works will fix the double action

    • @MRsolidcolor
      @MRsolidcolor Місяць тому

      not really i have the p09 then i broke a spring(trigger reset) shooting it. thousands of rounds down range and hours of training. bought the spring set and it did little to nothing.. would i ever by it again.. NO.
      just shoot the gun.. and once you break the gun in it better then anything the spring set has to offer... but that mean you actually have to get out and shoot and not troll the comments talking about things you have no business talking about...

    • @jamesm2881
      @jamesm2881 Місяць тому

      @@MRsolidcolorawww sorry fella. just because you have that experience doesnt mean I or others did. It made the trigger alot better for me.

  • @mustang2010SC
    @mustang2010SC Місяць тому +5

    Why on earth didn't they just call it the P07?

    • @dylanholbrook6239
      @dylanholbrook6239 Місяць тому +3

      To match the naming of the p10 line.

    • @KeanonGilliamSlang369
      @KeanonGilliamSlang369 Місяць тому

      The name Nocturne sucks! But that's marketing.

    • @myelling7773
      @myelling7773 Місяць тому +5

      It confused people. Just calling them p09 f and c makes more sense to people. P07 and p09 makes people think they're different gun types.

    • @rt1326
      @rt1326 Місяць тому +2

      @@myelling7773 i think everyone will figure it out, and those that don't shouldn't be carrying/shooting guns haha

    • @MRsolidcolor
      @MRsolidcolor Місяць тому

      morons get confused

  • @peters303
    @peters303 Місяць тому

    Great short objective unbiased review
    Shame about the DA trigger
    I reckon after time it will wear in.
    Shoots very flat in your footage
    Always quality for competitive prices

    • @pcpolice7937
      @pcpolice7937 13 днів тому +1

      #1. He had the trigger pull gauge in the wrong place. #2. What a Whiner. It’s supposed to be heavy. #3. That trigger will smooth right out after 4-500 rounds. #4. Inexpensive spring kits are available to bring that DA pull down considerably

  • @johnsotirid6806
    @johnsotirid6806 Місяць тому

    All stock cz triggers suck they rely on Cajun Gun Works pro package to bring them to where they should be. You just have to accept the fact that you have to modify your trigger when you buy certain cz’s And you will have a phenomenal Gun

  • @vaughnsadekni665
    @vaughnsadekni665 23 дні тому

    CZ needs to work on the weight of their guns and I have seen some extraction issues in these new models. CZ use to break in their guns for you. Doubt they are doing that anymore. All manufacturers are cutting corners like crazy.

  • @archiebunker3654
    @archiebunker3654 Місяць тому +4

    Simple fix for the bad DA trigger. Carry it in FULL SA. You have it in a good holster right? There's absolutely NOTHING that says you MUST de-cock it and carry it in the way too heavy DA mode. Seriously, I don't get this mentality that if you have a DA/SA gun that you MUST carry it in DA. BS! Load that thing, rack that slide, keep your finger off the damn trigger and slide it carefully into a good Kydex holster on a good gun belt. DONE. This is how I carry my P-07. DA/SA configuration in full SA mode. My trigger finger IS my safety.

    • @MkArms1997
      @MkArms1997 Місяць тому +5

      People like you know how your tools work and have no problem carrying loaded because you have common sense , something lot of people lack

    • @MRsolidcolor
      @MRsolidcolor Місяць тому

      thank you one of like 2 people that understand how guns work... sooo many morons talk freely giving bad information like this channel

    • @dwtks21
      @dwtks21 Місяць тому +2

      PREACHHHH

    • @futurereflectionsmedia8391
      @futurereflectionsmedia8391 Місяць тому +2

      You don’t even have to carry it full SA without a safety. It comes with a manual safety that can be swapped for the decocker 😂

    • @justinballard7242
      @justinballard7242 17 днів тому +1

      With no trigger safety like a Glock I'd be worried about a fall having enough inertia to move the trigger and fire the gun

  • @LuciusIngemar-b1v
    @LuciusIngemar-b1v Місяць тому

    Perez George Thomas David Hall Brenda

  • @kevf500
    @kevf500 Місяць тому +1

    Still need much better texture ,

    • @grantmetcalf9688
      @grantmetcalf9688 Місяць тому

      #wrong

    • @MRsolidcolor
      @MRsolidcolor Місяць тому

      try better grip
      you do not need texture to hold a gun because the grip is what matters.. go get classes

    • @MRsolidcolor
      @MRsolidcolor Місяць тому

      try better grip
      you do not need texture to hold a gun because the grip is what matters.. go get classes

  • @sidanx7887
    @sidanx7887 Місяць тому

    Compensate it and it’s on

    • @MRsolidcolor
      @MRsolidcolor Місяць тому

      9mm doesn't have enough gas to comp its just a gimmik and waste of money for people to buy who know nothing about guns. they just seen a guy on youtube like it because they got paid to do so.. then you look and they NEVER have it on there gunn.. because its dumb...

  • @erice4611
    @erice4611 Місяць тому

    I bought the same gun and traded the next day because of the horrible heavy and gritty DA and the Single action is long and mushy. POS!! If you wander DA/SA Get a Sig or Beretta!

  • @Rebel_Spirit_Operations
    @Rebel_Spirit_Operations 25 днів тому

    Have an updated video showing a reliability test using 200 rounds of hollow points if anyone is interested ua-cam.com/video/JJ_1bY6bAIk/v-deo.htmlsi=rDxbj8PSt_VMxLjT