Had a clicker for months and forgot about it until seeing this video again. I figured I'm at the clicker stage based on the video so I put it on my bow. After the install, my whole shooting changes instantly. I'm no longer rushing shots, I realized my groupings were not consistent before because my draw lengths were never consistent. I realized my accuracy was off because as I tired from shooting, I was collapsing which I never notice. The first day of the clicker, I'm grouping arrows right on top of each other which I've never been able to do. I believe I'm now a clicker fan.
THANK YOU. Finally I have a clear, detailed explanation of the clicker and its use. Moreover, you understandably focus this video on developing shooting FORM, and you identify the clicker as merely an indicator of proper and consistent form. I have a long way to go but, thanks to you, I'm learning how to get there.
Just started using a clicker today, and Damn! my draw before was really frickin' inconsistent. My groups have already tightened a heap, but I can tell I've got a long way to go to get used to this. One benefit, I reckon, will be to improve my draw consistency for when I am shooting a more barebow, traditional, instinctive style. I'm hoping that shooting with all these different "training wheels" will actually make me a better traditional archer down the track.
Just wanted to say a very big thank you for all your great videos. I only started recurve archery in February 2019, so just 7 odd months. Your advice has proved invaluable. Thank you again my friend.
Before I got used to the clicker, I had two problems with my form and draw. When it went off too soon, it was usually because I had drawn incorrectly with my back, and I often leaned backwards to help the arrow get through the clicker. This will of course cause an inconsistent form and it's not good for your back. When I couldn't get the clicker to click, it was often because my shoulder was to high. Then it's better to take down your bow, start over and make sure that your shoulder is put in place. I wouldn't advice anyone who's just starting with a clicker to adjust the clicker after every shot, whether it's because it goes off too soon or doesn't go off at all. It would be smart to get someone to look at your form before you adjust it so you don't mess up the consistence. For me, at least, starting to shoot with a clicker was like crawling to hell, but it's really worth it!
Wow thanks for the tip re: ignoring the clicker. I just had mine. My coach had me go through like four months of form and release training before I get my clicker. I the first time I tried it I was like "oh my gosh, it's not going off" or "oh my gosh, it went off even before I reached my anchor". She said the same thing that I should condition my mind not to think of the clicker and instead keep doing what I do and just let it click
Go Monash. There was no archery club at my campus when I was a student there back int he day. Tried getting into archery years ago but then we had a child and suddenly there just wasn't enough time in the day. Now that he's old enough to try a bow I'm trying to introduce him to it slowly and get back into it (for casual shooting, not club level stuff). Your videos are gold :)
Hold up. I learned to NOT allow the clicker to trigger the shot. The clicker indicates when the draw length is correct. At that point the shot could be taken or not. If you allow the clicker to dictate when you shoot, hearing someone elses clicker might cause you to shoot too soon. That's the theory anyway. It's actually happended to me, or I pulled through a little too soon and shot before I was truly ready. Now if I pull through at the wrong moment, I'll either let down or continue to hold until the right moment.
Maximus Joseppi It's a subconscious reaction for me, and in fact the sound of a compound bow shooting resembles my clicker. Some archers, in a competition environment, synchronise their shots so that they're not distracted by this.
It becomes more about the feel rather than the sound the more you practice with one. I'm honestly surprised that you haven't destroyed your clicker by shooting it without clicking.
Hi. I'm just learning to use the clicker and a lot of what you have shown and said resonates with my experiences. I think it's all a lot clearer having seen your posting. I'll give it a go. Many thanks.
Only found your site yesterday, but very pleased I did !! I have just started to use an Olympic Recurve bow as I have been shooting compound for three years and wanted a new challenge, I am very impressed with your knowledge and skills within the world of archery, thank you for taking the time to put these very informative videos together, I know 99% of people will get a lot from them, just ignore the few "Dick heads" that you will always get, I am a photographer of 25 years so I know what the public can be like !!! keep up the great work.
Releasing on the clicker becomes pretty instinctive - dangerously so. I remember when I was a schoolboy practicing drawing my bow by myself in the back-room (instead of doing my homework); I decided to try it with an arrow nocked to get a better feel, the clicker went off and I loosed without thinking. The arrow went right through an expensive lampshade and 1cm into the wall behind. I spent the rest of the evening trying to cover-up the damage before my parents found out (which they never did).
Just started using a clicker for the first time in my archery training today. Very impressive at many first shots. I could manage to make very good grouping. But after several shots when I felt tired at back muscle and elbow, the clicker didn’t work well anymore. It took long time to click, and the groups split up./Bkk Thailand
Helpful video, thank you. Information was clear and well presented. The final comment about when clicker use is allowed would probably have been best placed at the start. I look forward to watching more in the series...
Been training for 2 years now olympic style without the clicker, and i was really doing well in grouping or keeping my arrows at the 9th and 10th ring. Today, lol! Got myself to try the clicker and ofcourse no one around yet to mark my constant full draw length against the clicker, I end up by having my arrows all around the target!! 🤣🤣 fraustrating yes but will get there eventually! Thank you sensei for your explanation and all the videos you do to share your knowledge and experience. 🤗🤗🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
Amusing. If you are going to correct someone, then you really should get your english, grammar and punctuations correct yourself. ( learn a grammar = learn grammar/ 'meaning of words and how to spell THEM correctly/ 'and what is about proper arrow'....what does that even mean?/ Mr Stephen King/ arrow LENGTH ) We are here to learn more about archery and not the Queen's english.
***** look human, I'm not native speaker and I don't really need my grammar to be soo good you know. I can have a nive job with the language of the country I love in soo yeah
one in my club uses a mirror instead of a clicker.. a little mirror where he see the tip of the point he is 63 years old and shoots 570-580 indoors in this way with 28 pounds and a fiberbow riser and borderlimbs
I have been shooting for 4 years. I just stopped growing and cut my arrows as they were originally uncut and am now using a clicker, my accuracy improved immediately
I like your videos, they help me very much, especially when I'm learning how to properly shoot a recurve in a club focused on traditional archery :P Are you planning any video about proper stance, difference between open stance and perpendicular- pros and cons of each, etc? That would really help me!
I had problems with clicker.. Sometimes after the full draw, I didn't relise that tip of the arrows is already being click.. I cant sense when its already click..
I don't use one just yet so take with a pinch of salt but I doubt it. I have seen many archers with a little end cap on the clicker, though I think that's more for the risers paintwork than the arrows. Besides many of my aluminiums having long thin lines of paint worn away when they slide along another arrow in the target on impact.
Great video! I was wondering about the clicker extension on the riser. I've read that the clicker should be as vertical as possible, yet I see pros using clickers that are at a high angle, touching the very end of a long clicker extension. I would think that ideally arrows should be cut so that the arrow tip is at the edge of the riser when the clicker clicks. Is there a good reason for having longer arrows that require a long clicker extension?
Cutting off 2 inches will significantly stiffen the arrow spine. This may affect your tune, though this can be partially rectified by using heavier points.
Shooting blank bale with my eyes closed really helped me trust that I have it in the right place. By blank bale, I mean I had about 3 feet between me and the end of my stabilizer.
Thanks for yet another insightful video. I noticed on another video that you were using a clicker mounted on the Shibuya sight-bar. Can I ask what model it was? I've looked at a couple of sight-bar mounted clickers but the blurb says they're not compatible with Shibuya sights.
Thank you for your explanation...please let me ask you...after a long walk to find the proper bow , I have finally bought my brand new bow, but I wonder if I should start shooting without the clicker and then incorporate it to my shooting once my shoot is consistent, or I should use it from the very beggining.... What do you think i s best way to go!? ...much appreciateball your comments and guidance.
Using the clicker requires very fine control. Although using the clicker can be good training tool, I would not prioritise its use until you have a strong grasp of basic form and that you can comfortably draw the bow consistently.
That is sound advice: back when I was shooting my Hoyt Medalist setup, in the 80s mainly, to 1990s, I didn't ever use a clicker or kisser button (on my beginner Stemmler bow) until I got the Hoyt bow, and only then did some of the coaches and range people gradually suggest introducing the clicker and kisser button into my routine. Even graduating to a CheckIt (like a newer Shibuya competition) sight was a major upgrade and adjustment. My clicker was a basic small aluminum one that just glued onto the riser itself, or was screwed-in, cannot recall now. I also always used a plunger button (adjustable) and wire drop-away rest. I always thought you were supposed to be trained to release as soon as the point went through the clicker, but perhaps not. The trouble with waiting too long with a recurve is you often start shaking, your sighting can get way off, and the shot can be fouled, so it's best to train to release as soon as you can past the clicker sounding point.
I have to ask ...when you were shooting this video did you have to concentrate hard not to release the arrow when the clicker went off ,or do you have a wall with holes in it lol
All Olympic recurve risers can use clickers. Traditional bows can also attach a special kind of clicker. Compound bows don't need clickers as the bow has a max draw length that is calibrated to the user.
Interesting that you say to set the clicker with 1/2" left to come through - I was told the opposite (ie to have about 2mm left to come through). Do you not find that it makes it a lot harder to pull through with such a long way to expand? I'm not sure I could get 1/2" through the clicker without just pulling my hand back and moving off my anchor completely
As I said, it depends on how you've been trained. I personally prefer a closer "trigger", but for people starting out and for those who have clicker panic, it's more important to give more room for error and work on expanding through the shot, starting from a relaxed position and then powering through the clicker in one motion. As you train, this motion becomes more refined, allowing you to come much closer the clicker, and also having better control of the draw weight.
Kisik Lee talks about the draw and expansion as being a circular motion as opposed to moving straight back in a line. He says that a smaller circular movement creates a larger linear change. That might be part of the secret of how expansion works after achoring. For example, if I pretent like I'm holding a bow at anchor with my shoulders hunched forward, the linear distance would increase simply by pushing my chest forward and drawing my shoulder blades together.
Hi NUSensei, I am a recurve archer from the Philippines and I have a question in mind regarding the difference of a straight clicker and a clicker with an angle or a bend. Does it have any applicable and practical differences? Anyway. Thank you very much in advance. More power to your channel.
Firstly, make sure you put it on the right way! I had the same problem with a black 0.025 beiter clicker I bought. Even though the packet says not to bend it, I just bent it at about the "r" of beiter written on the blade, and it clicks nice and loud now. Good luck.
I remember my first time using a clicker, so much pain on my back muscles in my first day. After a couple weeks it became a God send. Years ran from my eyes from pain
The pain comes back to haunt you when you go through a slump in form and you have to relearn how to engage your back muscles. The longer you shoot without using the correct form and muscles, the tougher it becomes to learn it.
I've been shooting for about 9 months and have been using the same carbon clicker as featured in your video for the past 3-4 months. Despite tightening it as much as I dare, I find that over the course of 6 arrows it creeps approximately 1-2mm towards me requiring that I am continually checking and adjusting every other shot. I was wondering if you (or any followers) have any experience of this and have found a solution or is this something I have to live with?
Thanks NUSensei. I would like to add that I am a great fan and very much enjoy your blog, It has been exceedingly helpful, even in the short time I (and my wife) have taken up archery, please keep posting! :)
Luke MacInnes No. The reason being, the magnet is only on the clicker bar, traditionally on sight mounted clickers. Your clicker has a small magnet which connects to another magnetic metal attached to the wire used in the clicker. Your arrow is non-magnetic, meaning no interferance to the shot by magnetic force.
NUSensei Thank you. Got my first bow three weeks ago. Been watching your videos for a year or more. The information is just great. Very helpful. I'm told by people who don't really know, that at age 66 I'm a little late. Don't understand their reasoning, I look forward to your next Q AND A THANKS AGAIN! ! PEACE.
How is it a good idea to cut your arrows if you need them at a longer length for your draw length? I need 31.5-32" arrows and cant just cut them down if the clicker doesnt engage. Isnt it better to have the right length arrows then the option to use a clicker?
If you're shooting in this style, the clicker is paramount. It's actually the defining piece of equipment (compared to the sight). Without the clicker, it is almost impossible to replicate a shot to the level of consistency that is expected. If your arrows are extra-long, use a sight-mounted clicker.
Not sure how this would matter actually... if you have a long draw length and arrows matched to this, the tip of the arrow is going to end up in a similar place.
Lee Price What NU is saying, is the clicker gives you a continuous point of release. Being within general draw will create a variation in your shot process, meaning inconsistancy on target. Clickers also give you an avoidance of creep. Creeping in archery is when your arrow moves forward during the shot process. This can happen when you relax while aiming, which means you need to fight to continue the shot. Fighting your shot will, with-out doubt, create more fatgue for the archer in question. Less fatgue, better shots placement, more arrows fired. More fatgue, worse shot placement, less arrows fired.
if you have a great anchor you dont need a draw checker do compound bows have clickers no you have to remember to release the arrow with it travelling back from the target, archers of normal club standard the release is the most important thing
i agree with everthing you said but the arrow creeping forward has nothing to do with the clicker its because you havent tranfered the draw weight to your back muscles or you simply over bowed or your shoulders are open to the target another problem i have seen this so many times on the shooting line people come up to anchor and stop pulling so the arrow moves forward
hi nu sensei, i finally got used to the sight, now i'm thinking about getting the clicker one problem is i have samick sage and as you know, it doesn't have the clicker plate is there any alternative for that?
Andre Nathan Some clicker are stick-on and don't need to be screwed in. I think the Cartel clicker is one of those. Other clickers, like the AAE, can be mounted onto the sight bar.
The clicker plate is an extension. If your arrows are short enough, the clicker can be placed over the riser. That said, since the Sage is a wooden riser, this might not work out too well. I generally wouldn't suggest using specialised target equipment like a clicker on the Sage.
Yes. However, you have to get your arrow length exactly right, or else you'll have to make your own extension. The clicker is meant to contact the extension or the riser.
wish i could use one. i autistic and i hear to much surrounding noises. the more i have to focus/concentrate the more details in sound i pick up. hit average of 9, wich is fine with me though.
I have a question. I am considering obtaining a clicker. I noticed that you have a small bar there that makes the clicker sound. my issue is that is where I have my stabilizer. Would that be a problem?
I apologize, I was looking at it from memory. My stabilizer goes below the handgrip. I am able to place the actual clicker but not that little bar it is clicking against.
Most Samick bows are for recreational shooting and do not have a fitting for a clicker or clicker bar. You could you a magnetic clicker. AAE has a nice one that should work.
I don't think there are any rules that prohibit it. That said, I'm not really sold on the idea. The demonstration in the video is very poor, showing very shaky clicker control and possibly clicker panic. If this is the case, the 2-phase clicker will actually make it worse, as it causes more dependency on the clicker rather than encourage the archer to develop a smooth, fluid shot process. I can see some ways in which it may be useful, but in my opinion it's excessive for most shooters.
+NUSensei Thanx for replay... As a beginner I find it very useful... and because I'm beginner I can't comment about "developing a smooth, fluid shot process". Best regards
My question would be "Why do you need a second phase?". I can see where it can be helpful in that if you use it properly and consistently, you have indicators for both your anchor and your expansion, but the video doesn't demonstrate that well.
+NUSensei Yes, the your point is right, with two stages I have two indications - for both, my anchor and my expansion... and I don't need to watch clicker position on arrow point (when using regular clicker) and targeting - with two-stage clicker I can targeting without fear that I will overdraw...
Haha. It's ironic that apparently a lot of recurve shooters won't or don't shoot compound bows because they're too fiddly. No clickers for me, or sights, or stabilizers, or etc. KISS for me. ;-)
Hey, there is a clicker that a barebow shooter can use. It mounts to the limb and has a string or a chain that connects to the bow string. The reason why some clickers can't be used is because they could potentially be used as a sighting device. smg.photobucket.com/user/yohon/media/IM000353.jpg.html
So I’ve got a beginners bow a glove and a target.i like gun target practice but ammo is so expensive and I really just like the tranquility and focus that comes from target shooting. How should I structure my practice? At the moment I have been doing 20 paces, content with just hitting the target and getting a 6 inch grouping. As I improve in technique.and confidence what ranges should I start practicing in for some completion level shooting
I believe several used them in the most recent Olympics. The magnetic flip rests are currently in trend, though it doesn't mean that a plastic rest can't do the same job. It wasn't that long ago that these were the standard, and records were shot with them. While I currently don't use one, they're my go-to for backups and recommending to new archers.
I've never shot a bow in my life. But for some reason these videos keep showing up and for some reason I still watch them
Maybe someone or something is telling you to buy a bow?
This is a clicker.
It clicks.
Thanks for coming to my ted talk
I'm here just after watching Korea win gold in Tokyo and couldn't figure out the clicker. Thanks for the info.
Had a clicker for months and forgot about it until seeing this video again. I figured I'm at the clicker stage based on the video so I put it on my bow. After the install, my whole shooting changes instantly. I'm no longer rushing shots, I realized my groupings were not consistent before because my draw lengths were never consistent. I realized my accuracy was off because as I tired from shooting, I was collapsing which I never notice. The first day of the clicker, I'm grouping arrows right on top of each other which I've never been able to do. I believe I'm now a clicker fan.
THANK YOU. Finally I have a clear, detailed explanation of the clicker and its use. Moreover, you understandably focus this video on developing shooting FORM, and you identify the clicker as merely an indicator of proper and consistent form. I have a long way to go but, thanks to you, I'm learning how to get there.
Just started using a clicker today, and Damn! my draw before was really frickin' inconsistent. My groups have already tightened a heap, but I can tell I've got a long way to go to get used to this. One benefit, I reckon, will be to improve my draw consistency for when I am shooting a more barebow, traditional, instinctive style. I'm hoping that shooting with all these different "training wheels" will actually make me a better traditional archer down the track.
Just wanted to say a very big thank you for all your great videos. I only started recurve archery in February 2019, so just 7 odd months. Your advice has proved invaluable. Thank you again my friend.
Before I got used to the clicker, I had two problems with my form and draw.
When it went off too soon, it was usually because I had drawn incorrectly with my back, and I often leaned backwards to help the arrow get through the clicker. This will of course cause an inconsistent form and it's not good for your back.
When I couldn't get the clicker to click, it was often because my shoulder was to high. Then it's better to take down your bow, start over and make sure that your shoulder is put in place.
I wouldn't advice anyone who's just starting with a clicker to adjust the clicker after every shot, whether it's because it goes off too soon or doesn't go off at all. It would be smart to get someone to look at your form before you adjust it so you don't mess up the consistence.
For me, at least, starting to shoot with a clicker was like crawling to hell, but it's really worth it!
The best explanation in the use of the clicker and on the correct position in the shooting phase, Thank you!!
Wow thanks for the tip re: ignoring the clicker. I just had mine. My coach had me go through like four months of form and release training before I get my clicker. I the first time I tried it I was like "oh my gosh, it's not going off" or "oh my gosh, it went off even before I reached my anchor". She said the same thing that I should condition my mind not to think of the clicker and instead keep doing what I do and just let it click
Go Monash. There was no archery club at my campus when I was a student there back int he day. Tried getting into archery years ago but then we had a child and suddenly there just wasn't enough time in the day. Now that he's old enough to try a bow I'm trying to introduce him to it slowly and get back into it (for casual shooting, not club level stuff). Your videos are gold :)
Hold up. I learned to NOT allow the clicker to trigger the shot. The clicker indicates when the draw length is correct. At that point the shot could be taken or not. If you allow the clicker to dictate when you shoot, hearing someone elses clicker might cause you to shoot too soon. That's the theory anyway. It's actually happended to me, or I pulled through a little too soon and shot before I was truly ready. Now if I pull through at the wrong moment, I'll either let down or continue to hold until the right moment.
if you allow someone else's clicker to trigger your shot, you need better ears and more practice haha
Maximus Joseppi
Probably both, but, still, it can happen.
Maximus Joseppi It's a subconscious reaction for me, and in fact the sound of a compound bow shooting resembles my clicker. Some archers, in a competition environment, synchronise their shots so that they're not distracted by this.
It becomes more about the feel rather than the sound the more you practice with one. I'm honestly surprised that you haven't destroyed your clicker by shooting it without clicking.
I actually let down the shot rather than shoot through the clicker. It's an annoying reaction though.
Once again, you are a really valuable source of advice, guidance, instruction and information. Many thanks.
Hi. I'm just learning to use the clicker and a lot of what you have shown and said resonates with my experiences. I think it's all a lot clearer having seen your posting. I'll give it a go. Many thanks.
I am right at the clicker stage. Fantastic tutorial! Thanks a lot!
Best coaching and info vids by a country mile. brilliant
NUSensei, amazing lesson. Thank you very much.
Finally. Glad I found this! A great vid on intro to using clickers..
Good video, lots to learn for me. Thanks for the help...
Only found your site yesterday, but very pleased I did !! I have just started to use an Olympic Recurve bow as I have been shooting compound for three years and wanted a new challenge, I am very impressed with your knowledge and skills within the world of archery, thank you for taking the time to put these very informative videos together, I know 99% of people will get a lot from them, just ignore the few "Dick heads" that you will always get, I am a photographer of 25 years so I know what the public can be like !!! keep up the great work.
Once again another excellent video from this specialist archer .
Releasing on the clicker becomes pretty instinctive - dangerously so. I remember when I was a schoolboy practicing drawing my bow by myself in the back-room (instead of doing my homework); I decided to try it with an arrow nocked to get a better feel, the clicker went off and I loosed without thinking. The arrow went right through an expensive lampshade and 1cm into the wall behind. I spent the rest of the evening trying to cover-up the damage before my parents found out (which they never did).
I want taught that with my recurve! I was told not to immediately release the arrow once the clicker clicked as that would develop a bad habit.
Just started using a clicker for the first time in my archery training today. Very impressive at many first shots. I could manage to make very good grouping. But after several shots when I felt tired at back muscle and elbow, the clicker didn’t work well anymore. It took long time to click, and the groups split up./Bkk Thailand
this was very helpful! thank you!
Helpful video, thank you. Information was clear and well presented. The final comment about when clicker use is allowed would probably have been best placed at the start. I look forward to watching more in the series...
Been training for 2 years now olympic style without the clicker, and i was really doing well in grouping or keeping my arrows at the 9th and 10th ring.
Today, lol! Got myself to try the clicker and ofcourse no one around yet to mark my constant full draw length against the clicker, I end up by having my arrows all around the target!! 🤣🤣 fraustrating yes but will get there eventually! Thank you sensei for your explanation and all the videos you do to share your knowledge and experience. 🤗🤗🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
Watched so many of your videos and finally realised we went to the same UNI
Awesome advice on clicker panic, I see you're point on ignoring the clicker and will try putting it into practice big thumb's up
"This is a clicker.. It clicks" hahahaha
So how to know witch arows lenght is the best for someone ?
get a friend, come to full draw, let him mark the arrow for you, repeat the process and derive the average point, that's your draw length.
Someone's triggered LOL
Amusing. If you are going to correct someone, then you really should get your english, grammar and punctuations correct yourself. ( learn a grammar = learn grammar/ 'meaning of words and how to spell THEM correctly/ 'and what is about proper arrow'....what does that even mean?/ Mr Stephen King/ arrow LENGTH ) We are here to learn more about archery and not the Queen's english.
***** look human, I'm not native speaker and I don't really need my grammar to be soo good you know. I can have a nive job with the language of the country I love in soo yeah
Based on your drawlength
Thanks for this. Had no idea what it did, watching Rio.
one in my club uses a mirror instead of a clicker.. a little mirror where he see the tip of the point he is 63 years old and shoots 570-580 indoors in this way with 28 pounds and a fiberbow riser and borderlimbs
Wow that's intriguing, something I never heard of before
Great video...been learning a hole lot ...i just got into recurves and all of your videos have been for me very useful.... Keep up tbe good work!!!
I have been shooting for 4 years. I just stopped growing and cut my arrows as they were originally uncut and am now using a clicker, my accuracy improved immediately
I like your videos, they help me very much, especially when I'm learning how to properly shoot a recurve in a club focused on traditional archery :P
Are you planning any video about proper stance, difference between open stance and perpendicular- pros and cons of each, etc? That would really help me!
I'm planning those. It's going to be a big project though, and I can't say when it'll be done.
great explanation thx i always wondered why they shoot after the click
Thank you, well explained.
I had problems with clicker.. Sometimes after the full draw, I didn't relise that tip of the arrows is already being click.. I cant sense when its already click..
you guys know there other kinds of clickers like some that are limb-mounted and string tension activated
Monash! Cool. Very nice video as well.
Over time, can the clicker do any damage to your arrows (by scuffing/scratching the shafts, during the draw, for example)?
I don't use one just yet so take with a pinch of salt but I doubt it. I have seen many archers with a little end cap on the clicker, though I think that's more for the risers paintwork than the arrows. Besides many of my aluminiums having long thin lines of paint worn away when they slide along another arrow in the target on impact.
No, but if it did then the clicker would have far too much tension on it. Normally they just rest lightly against the arrow.
very good video my friend, thank you
Great video! I was wondering about the clicker extension on the riser. I've read that the clicker should be as vertical as possible, yet I see pros using clickers that are at a high angle, touching the very end of a long clicker extension. I would think that ideally arrows should be cut so that the arrow tip is at the edge of the riser when the clicker clicks. Is there a good reason for having longer arrows that require a long clicker extension?
I am thinking of cutting my arrows shorted but does cutting it for about 5cm or two inches effect arrow flight and grouping much?
Cutting off 2 inches will significantly stiffen the arrow spine. This may affect your tune, though this can be partially rectified by using heavier points.
Fuck nos I can't group my arrows they fuck off were they want
Thanks, very helpful.
hello i bought a Compound Rubber Bow Stabilizer, 3.5", 4.6 Oz i bought it for a ragim matrix and was wondering if it would fit on right
First 6 words in the video
"This is the clicker, it clicks..."
Shooting blank bale with my eyes closed really helped me trust that I have it in the right place. By blank bale, I mean I had about 3 feet between me and the end of my stabilizer.
What's that certificate looking thing in the back the logo in the middle top looks familiar?
You can see how we almost shot after hearing the clicker the first time he demonstrated. Is this an archers PTSD?
Thanks for yet another insightful video. I noticed on another video that you were using a clicker mounted on the Shibuya sight-bar. Can I ask what model it was? I've looked at a couple of sight-bar mounted clickers but the blurb says they're not compatible with Shibuya sights.
It's an AAE model.
Thanks :)
Thank you for your explanation...please let me ask you...after a long walk to find the proper bow , I have finally bought my brand new bow, but I wonder if I should start shooting without the clicker and then incorporate it to my shooting once my shoot is consistent, or I should use it from the very beggining.... What do you think i s best way to go!? ...much appreciateball your comments and guidance.
Using the clicker requires very fine control. Although using the clicker can be good training tool, I would not prioritise its use until you have a strong grasp of basic form and that you can comfortably draw the bow consistently.
are you still shooting
That is sound advice: back when I was shooting my Hoyt Medalist setup, in the 80s mainly, to 1990s, I didn't ever use a clicker or kisser button (on my beginner Stemmler bow) until I got the Hoyt bow, and only then did some of the coaches and range people gradually suggest introducing the clicker and kisser button into my routine. Even graduating to a CheckIt (like a newer Shibuya competition) sight was a major upgrade and adjustment. My clicker was a basic small aluminum one that just glued onto the riser itself, or was screwed-in, cannot recall now. I also always used a plunger button (adjustable) and wire drop-away rest. I always thought you were supposed to be trained to release as soon as the point went through the clicker, but perhaps not. The trouble with waiting too long with a recurve is you often start shaking, your sighting can get way off, and the shot can be fouled, so it's best to train to release as soon as you can past the clicker sounding point.
Hey @NUSensei, was wondering what clicker you were using in this video since i couldn't find it anywhere.
I have to ask ...when you were shooting this video did you have to concentrate hard not to release the arrow when the clicker went off ,or do you have a wall with holes in it lol
hi. I have a question about the clicker. is it used in all of the bows or a special bow? for example, is it used in compound bows?
All Olympic recurve risers can use clickers. Traditional bows can also attach a special kind of clicker. Compound bows don't need clickers as the bow has a max draw length that is calibrated to the user.
Interesting that you say to set the clicker with 1/2" left to come through - I was told the opposite (ie to have about 2mm left to come through). Do you not find that it makes it a lot harder to pull through with such a long way to expand? I'm not sure I could get 1/2" through the clicker without just pulling my hand back and moving off my anchor completely
As I said, it depends on how you've been trained. I personally prefer a closer "trigger", but for people starting out and for those who have clicker panic, it's more important to give more room for error and work on expanding through the shot, starting from a relaxed position and then powering through the clicker in one motion. As you train, this motion becomes more refined, allowing you to come much closer the clicker, and also having better control of the draw weight.
Kisik Lee talks about the draw and expansion as being a circular motion as opposed to moving straight back in a line. He says that a smaller circular movement creates a larger linear change. That might be part of the secret of how expansion works after achoring. For example, if I pretent like I'm holding a bow at anchor with my shoulders hunched forward, the linear distance would increase simply by pushing my chest forward and drawing my shoulder blades together.
Hi NUSensei, I am a recurve archer from the Philippines and I have a question in mind regarding the difference of a straight clicker and a clicker with an angle or a bend. Does it have any applicable and practical differences?
Anyway. Thank you very much in advance. More power to your channel.
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This was helpful!!
Can a clicker be used with field points?
I recently bought a better clicker, but it always vibrates after i reach full draw, and doesn't make a 'clean' clicker. Any suggestions?
Firstly, make sure you put it on the right way!
I had the same problem with a black 0.025 beiter clicker I bought. Even though the packet says not to bend it, I just bent it at about the "r" of beiter written on the blade, and it clicks nice and loud now.
Good luck.
I remember my first time using a clicker, so much pain on my back muscles in my first day. After a couple weeks it became a God send. Years ran from my eyes from pain
The pain comes back to haunt you when you go through a slump in form and you have to relearn how to engage your back muscles. The longer you shoot without using the correct form and muscles, the tougher it becomes to learn it.
I it an easier transition if someone have not shot for a while?
LMAO! "this is the clicker!..........it clicks!"
Great help ,thank you.
Tradisional bow is the best.
For indoor recurve tournaments do you need a clicker?
It's for consistent draw lengths. It isn't a necessity unless you want to be fully consistent
how to find the length of arrow I must cut?
Well covered topic
Where did you get the clicker extension shown in the video
The clicker extension normally comes with the riser.
I've been shooting for about 9 months and have been using the same carbon clicker as featured in your video for the past 3-4 months. Despite tightening it as much as I dare, I find that over the course of 6 arrows it creeps approximately 1-2mm towards me requiring that I am continually checking and adjusting every other shot. I was wondering if you (or any followers) have any experience of this and have found a solution or is this something I have to live with?
It's normal to check frequently. You could use loctite, but that also makes it harder to adjust when you need to.
Thanks NUSensei. I would like to add that I am a great fan and very much enjoy your blog, It has been exceedingly helpful, even in the short time I (and my wife) have taken up archery, please keep posting! :)
my clicker is a metal wire and uses magnets will this cause it to affect the arrow
Luke MacInnes No.
The reason being, the magnet is only on the clicker bar, traditionally on sight mounted clickers. Your clicker has a small magnet which connects to another magnetic metal attached to the wire used in the clicker. Your arrow is non-magnetic, meaning no interferance to the shot by magnetic force.
Is a clicker mandatory for competitive archery such as Olympic competition?
It's not mandatory, but being able to use it gives you a significant edge.
NUSensei Thank you. Got my first bow three weeks ago. Been watching your videos for a year or more. The information is just great. Very helpful. I'm told by people who don't really know, that at age 66 I'm a little late. Don't understand their reasoning, I look forward to your next Q AND A THANKS AGAIN! ! PEACE.
How is it a good idea to cut your arrows if you need them at a longer length for your draw length? I need 31.5-32" arrows and cant just cut them down if the clicker doesnt engage. Isnt it better to have the right length arrows then the option to use a clicker?
If you're shooting in this style, the clicker is paramount. It's actually the defining piece of equipment (compared to the sight). Without the clicker, it is almost impossible to replicate a shot to the level of consistency that is expected. If your arrows are extra-long, use a sight-mounted clicker.
Not sure how this would matter actually... if you have a long draw length and arrows matched to this, the tip of the arrow is going to end up in a similar place.
Lee Price What NU is saying, is the clicker gives you a continuous point of release. Being within general draw will create a variation in your shot process, meaning inconsistancy on target. Clickers also give you an avoidance of creep. Creeping in archery is when your arrow moves forward during the shot process. This can happen when you relax while aiming, which means you need to fight to continue the shot. Fighting your shot will, with-out doubt, create more fatgue for the archer in question.
Less fatgue, better shots placement, more arrows fired.
More fatgue, worse shot placement, less arrows fired.
if you have a great anchor you dont need a draw checker do compound bows have clickers no you have to remember to release the arrow with it travelling back from the target, archers of normal club standard the release is the most important thing
i agree with everthing you said but the arrow creeping forward has nothing to do with the clicker its because you havent tranfered the draw weight to your back muscles or you simply over bowed or your shoulders are open to the target another problem i have seen this so many times on the shooting line people come up to anchor and stop pulling so the arrow moves forward
hi nu sensei, i finally got used to the sight, now i'm thinking about getting the clicker
one problem is i have samick sage and as you know, it doesn't have the clicker plate
is there any alternative for that?
Andre Nathan Some clicker are stick-on and don't need to be screwed in. I think the Cartel clicker is one of those. Other clickers, like the AAE, can be mounted onto the sight bar.
Doesnt it need a clicker plate to click?
The clicker plate is an extension. If your arrows are short enough, the clicker can be placed over the riser. That said, since the Sage is a wooden riser, this might not work out too well. I generally wouldn't suggest using specialised target equipment like a clicker on the Sage.
Hi +NUSensei, can I still use a clicker if my riser doesn't have a clicker extension?
Yes. However, you have to get your arrow length exactly right, or else you'll have to make your own extension. The clicker is meant to contact the extension or the riser.
+NUSensei thanks
wish i could use one. i autistic and i hear to much surrounding noises. the more i have to focus/concentrate the more details in sound i pick up. hit average of 9, wich is fine with me though.
I have a question. I am considering obtaining a clicker. I noticed that you have a small bar there that makes the clicker sound. my issue is that is where I have my stabilizer. Would that be a problem?
That's odd. There is no stabiliser bushing there. What bow are you using?
I apologize, I was looking at it from memory. My stabilizer goes below the handgrip. I am able to place the actual clicker but not that little bar it is clicking against.
In the meantime, my riser is a Samick and the limbs are Privlege.
Most Samick bows are for recreational shooting and do not have a fitting for a clicker or clicker bar. You could you a magnetic clicker. AAE has a nice one that should work.
I had the exact same clicker its tip flew off after a year of using.
Thank you sensei
What you think about two stage clicker (youtube search: Archery 2 phase clicker)?
Can it be used in tournaments?
I don't think there are any rules that prohibit it. That said, I'm not really sold on the idea. The demonstration in the video is very poor, showing very shaky clicker control and possibly clicker panic. If this is the case, the 2-phase clicker will actually make it worse, as it causes more dependency on the clicker rather than encourage the archer to develop a smooth, fluid shot process. I can see some ways in which it may be useful, but in my opinion it's excessive for most shooters.
+NUSensei Thanx for replay... As a beginner I find it very useful... and because I'm beginner I can't comment about "developing a smooth, fluid shot process". Best regards
My question would be "Why do you need a second phase?". I can see where it can be helpful in that if you use it properly and consistently, you have indicators for both your anchor and your expansion, but the video doesn't demonstrate that well.
+NUSensei Yes, the your point is right, with two stages I have two indications - for both, my anchor and my expansion... and I don't need to watch clicker position on arrow point (when using regular clicker) and targeting - with two-stage clicker I can targeting without fear that I will overdraw...
do all archers wear fishing hats?
It is the best hat to wear while shooting recurve. Mostly the hats hit the string.
Haha. It's ironic that apparently a lot of recurve shooters won't or don't shoot compound bows because they're too fiddly. No clickers for me, or sights, or stabilizers, or etc. KISS for me. ;-)
What is your bow ? 😉
NeXt- OnE-ProdGaming W&W Inno CXT.
Hey, there is a clicker that a barebow shooter can use. It mounts to the limb and has a string or a chain that connects to the bow string. The reason why some clickers can't be used is because they could potentially be used as a sighting device. smg.photobucket.com/user/yohon/media/IM000353.jpg.html
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Korean seem to start clicker training immediately. Personally, this idea seem sound. I'm a logical person, clickers are logical.
It makes sense to me. Use a piece of equipment that requires you to shoot correctly to teach correct technique.
Looks like i can make my own for 5 bucks or less
not using clicker
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using clicker
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how about you can use many clicker
click click click click click bam
Lars Anderson doesnt use a clicker....
he's also never won any event.
lmao
He also doesn't use a bow built for adults but sticks to children's bows instead, so he can draw them in a fraction of a second.
So I’ve got a beginners bow a glove and a target.i like gun target practice but ammo is so expensive and I really just like the tranquility and focus that comes from target shooting. How should I structure my practice? At the moment I have been doing 20 paces, content with just hitting the target and getting a 6 inch grouping. As I improve in technique.and confidence what ranges should I start practicing in for some completion level shooting
Lars Anderson isn't slinging arrows to 70 meters. Test your accuracy at 70 meters without a clicker. Good luck.
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that arrow rest... really ? seriously ?
It's the Hoyt Super Rest. Apparently a lot of Olympians use it and it's only $2.50 a piece.
must be all those olympians we never see in the olympics or worlds.
I believe several used them in the most recent Olympics. The magnetic flip rests are currently in trend, though it doesn't mean that a plastic
rest can't do the same job. It wasn't that long ago that these were the standard, and records were shot with them. While I currently don't use one, they're my go-to for backups and recommending to new archers.
+VUO4E Korean women use them or have used then recently, I use one, I prefer it to a metal rest
+VUO4E feels more secure and easy to replace