I would like you to know that I truly enjoy these shows on the history of camping and stoves. Your demonstrations of the gas stoves is one reason I stay away from them. I have seen many campers have mishaps with the gas stoves and nearly catch fire to things. (I'm very thankful you didn't catch fire with this one.) I have a deep respect for liquid fuels going into lanterns and stoves and this episode proves to me why I dislike pressurized gases for most purposes except torches. I thank you for showing this stove and say, "you are a braver man than I." Take Care and Stay Safe,
Thanks for watching! Next week's video may make you feel a bit better about maybe using a self pressurizing gas stove. We're going to talk about the guy who made them safer while at the same time making them hotter.
Thank-you! My MSR Dragonfly sports a volleyball size blue/yellow flame on starting. It's instantaneous and reduces to a nice blue flame almost immediately. Glad you didn't lose your moustache taking one for the team!.
I was away from backpacking for a while and was amazed at my first Jet Boil and iso-butane. A very HUGE and welcome improvement. I mentioned to another commenter here that I actually perfected my use and understanding of the language after I joined the Army. Thanks for watching!
👍 First, as a person who is barely fluent in one language I was impressed that you became fluent in two languages. Second, thus far in this journey through stove development I am not seeing anything that will cause me to divorce my Trangia alcohol burner and wood stoves. Although I will admit to an intimate affair with the SVEA 123 that left me heartbroken.
The language is rich in nuance and gives rise to opportunities to use single words for fuller expression of thoughts, ideas, emotions, even body functions. Several words can be used as a noun, verb, adverbs, and adjectives. I must admit, though, that I did not reach a full understanding for both interpretation and use until I entered the Army---- Trangias are nice and they are made of the same brass that one comes to appreciate in older self-pressurizing stoves. I've had one and enjoyed using it. Thanks for watching!
Alcohol penny stoves use the same premise: you pour alcohol on or around the stove then light it to get the fuel inside to pressurize and come out the jet holes.
Correct, and they've been around a long time, mainly because they're inexpensive and easy to make. I have a couple that I've used on occasion. Thanks for watching!
To be fair to the stove, I was a bit late in getting the lighter to the burner which allowed gas and liquid fuel to build up AND the stove had a somewhat sticky valve that I should have oiled before trying it out.
As for the Svea 123 and 123r, they have a safety pressure relief valve in the fuel cap. I have 2 123r's and an Optimus 8r and had no problems with them. I have heard of people getting them too hot and having a blow torch from the fuel cap. Just can't run them for long periods of time without watching the temps.
Yes, pressure release valves were coming out since before WW2, prior to that it was a factory designed failure point with a pin that would fly out if too much pressure built up inside the fount. Most of the time this occurred when the use was using a windscreen that was too close to the stove which allowed heat to build up. Next week's video will show how that problem was solved. Thanks for watching!
I have a old Bernz O Matic stove and lantern. They are certainly car camping pieces. When they came out till in to the late 80s the stubby green Coleman canisters weren't everywhere. Almost everyplace sold the long cylinder canisters. I believe I have a two burner Primus that takes the long cylinders. The problem I have with propane and butane is cold weather. If butane sits in a place below 20F it doesn't want to burn. I keep my butane lighter in my pants pocket in the winter so that it lights. Hard to do with a butane canister. 😂
I had a Gerry stove, actually you are incorrect about proper operation when the stove was new it would settle down almost immediately to a blue flame. Mine worked very well for about 4 years then the control valve started to fail and fuel canisters started having particle contamination issues that clogged the orifice of the stove, it started acting more like your example. When I originally bought mine You could buy Gerry fuel canisters they seemed to work better but then for some reason they stopped making them that’s when I started having problems with contaminated fuel. When operating properly it never flamed up like a Svea 123
TBH, I let the gas open a bit too long before lighting. There was a lot of atomized fuel around the jets and some condensed fuel in the bowl. I didn't intend for it to happen, I was mildly distracted when lighting. I thought about reshooting but when I saw the footage to see what I could salvage out of it, I decided to leave it in. I got a chuckle out of it and thought other folks might too. Thanks for watching.
I'm looking forward to the new 'This Week in Setting Fire to Stuff' series 😊
I'm about to go out on the patio and fire up this week's episode----
I would like you to know that I truly enjoy these shows on the history of camping and stoves. Your demonstrations of the gas stoves is one reason I stay away from them. I have seen many campers have mishaps with the gas stoves and nearly catch fire to things. (I'm very thankful you didn't catch fire with this one.) I have a deep respect for liquid fuels going into lanterns and stoves and this episode proves to me why I dislike pressurized gases for most purposes except torches. I thank you for showing this stove and say, "you are a braver man than I." Take Care and Stay Safe,
Thanks for watching! Next week's video may make you feel a bit better about maybe using a self pressurizing gas stove. We're going to talk about the guy who made them safer while at the same time making them hotter.
Thank-you! My MSR Dragonfly sports a volleyball size blue/yellow flame on starting. It's instantaneous and reduces to a nice blue flame almost immediately. Glad you didn't lose your moustache taking one for the team!.
It was a bit of a surprise........
Very interesting. I'm glad stove design has improved. As for plumbers language I believe I can understand it well enough:)
I was away from backpacking for a while and was amazed at my first Jet Boil and iso-butane. A very HUGE and welcome improvement. I mentioned to another commenter here that I actually perfected my use and understanding of the language after I joined the Army.
Thanks for watching!
👍 First, as a person who is barely fluent in one language I was impressed that you became fluent in two languages.
Second, thus far in this journey through stove development I am not seeing anything that will cause me to divorce my Trangia alcohol burner and wood stoves. Although I will admit to an intimate affair with the SVEA 123 that left me heartbroken.
The language is rich in nuance and gives rise to opportunities to use single words for fuller expression of thoughts, ideas, emotions, even body functions. Several words can be used as a noun, verb, adverbs, and adjectives. I must admit, though, that I did not reach a full understanding for both interpretation and use until I entered the Army----
Trangias are nice and they are made of the same brass that one comes to appreciate in older self-pressurizing stoves. I've had one and enjoyed using it.
Thanks for watching!
Alcohol penny stoves use the same premise: you pour alcohol on or around the stove then light it to get the fuel inside to pressurize and come out the jet holes.
Correct, and they've been around a long time, mainly because they're inexpensive and easy to make. I have a couple that I've used on occasion. Thanks for watching!
Imagine when one had to use a match to light/relight that torch.
To be fair to the stove, I was a bit late in getting the lighter to the burner which allowed gas and liquid fuel to build up AND the stove had a somewhat sticky valve that I should have oiled before trying it out.
As for the Svea 123 and 123r, they have a safety pressure relief valve in the fuel cap. I have 2 123r's and an Optimus 8r and had no problems with them. I have heard of people getting them too hot and having a blow torch from the fuel cap. Just can't run them for long periods of time without watching the temps.
Yes, pressure release valves were coming out since before WW2, prior to that it was a factory designed failure point with a pin that would fly out if too much pressure built up inside the fount. Most of the time this occurred when the use was using a windscreen that was too close to the stove which allowed heat to build up. Next week's video will show how that problem was solved. Thanks for watching!
I have a old Bernz O Matic stove and lantern. They are certainly car camping pieces. When they came out till in to the late 80s the stubby green Coleman canisters weren't everywhere. Almost everyplace sold the long cylinder canisters. I believe I have a two burner Primus that takes the long cylinders. The problem I have with propane and butane is cold weather. If butane sits in a place below 20F it doesn't want to burn. I keep my butane lighter in my pants pocket in the winter so that it lights. Hard to do with a butane canister. 😂
The next video discusses the cold weather problem and how it was solved, particularly for Alpine environments. Thanks for watching!
So: the idea was to use a cannister that didn't need to be 'built like a tank.'
Very aptly put. I does depend on what gas you're using. Butane doesn't take near as much pressure as propane does.
I have a story for you about Joseph and the conversion of gas into liquid. I'll call you later and tell you about it.
Its a fart story isn't it? I love fart stories.
I had a Gerry stove, actually you are incorrect about proper operation when the stove was new it would settle down almost immediately to a blue flame. Mine worked very well for about 4 years then the control valve started to fail and fuel canisters
started having particle contamination issues that clogged the orifice of the stove, it started acting more like your example. When I originally bought mine You could buy Gerry fuel canisters they seemed to work better but then for some reason they stopped making them that’s when I started having problems with contaminated fuel. When operating properly it never flamed up like a Svea 123
TBH, I let the gas open a bit too long before lighting. There was a lot of atomized fuel around the jets and some condensed fuel in the bowl. I didn't intend for it to happen, I was mildly distracted when lighting. I thought about reshooting but when I saw the footage to see what I could salvage out of it, I decided to leave it in. I got a chuckle out of it and thought other folks might too.
Thanks for watching.