Nice relaxing flight Adam I enjoyed listening to your commentary I appreciate your honesty about the pluses and minuses on this sp140 electric Paramotor set up…👋
I have an X4 and have flown it with 8 X 6S LiPo (Bonkas) batteries or about 4kwh. About the same total energy available as the one hour pack for the SP140. I was flying that for 20-25 mins to make sure I had some left for a missed approach. Watching and listening to your energy/battery management thinking is very familiar to me! Still I really love the machine. Being electric allows me to fly from a local park without much ado. However I also just purchased a Kangook Amaruk with an Atom 80. The decision was made, or justified, by the fact that I may not live long enough for batteries to get that much better, and I want to fly longer flights. We'll see how it all goes. I store my LiPos at 50%. My chargers have a 'storage' function and or I can specify the voltage for cut-off. Figure out how long it takes to charge to 75% and set an alarm. "Seems like a spot (a power line) would be." Sure as hell does! wow. :O Bingo landing! Right up to the house. Respect!
Great videos make more of the electric power motor getting ready to pull the trigger. 10 powered power I'm sick of working on my paramotor great solution no adjusting carb I love it battery technology the only thing holding me back
Good afternoon Adan, how are you, I'm from Brazil, I haven't seen this electric paramator here yet, can you tell me, how long can you fly with these batteries, and what recharging time, thank you, have a good flight
Hey buddy, sorry for the delay. I get about 45 minutes of flight time. I could probably get close to an hour but I don't want to drain the battery to zero. Probably takes about 3 hours to fully charge
hi Adam techie question regarding say average amps drawn over typical flight , recently bought the same Electric motor but looking at alternate Controller , would be great to have some real user feedback regarding current draw.. i know at take off and initial climb out there will be a big hit , so just trying to get a feel for the load the controller would need to handle . cheers
@@akbarshoed my project stalled due to health issue so im grounded the dream kindaa stoped Grrrrrrrr. the new ESC was Going to cost circa 1500 Pounds so to be honest i have this project on back burner ...right at back LOL cheers
@@calvinhall1405 I understand. I have a desire to put a system together, but only if I can accurately predict the experience. Thanks for the response. Get back up there!
So, you said that you lose thrust or prop rpms at some percent of battery charge? In the EV world that would mean you're losing voltage, right? So, if you wanted to achieve a certain height, like 1,200 ft, each foot would become more of a challenge, not just from the thinning air, but also the reducing voltage? Man, that's a big deal! Thanks for this.
another nice video Adam , really impressed by your commentary and honest views regarding this bit of kit, wow lovely area to fly , you must really have some good neighbors to let you dance around their corn stalks LpL ..my kindda flying , getting older but wished id jumped on this bandwagon , Batteries will improve and so flight times so hang in there , impressive stuff , so Big up thanks for posting :-) this armchair wannabe really enjoyed this clip Cheers Adam
Beautiful flight! Thanks for the review/update. The only downside I can see is shorter duration of flight and greater attention to time management. With time, improved battery tech should slowly reduce this “disadvantage “. That said, most of my PPG flights were less than 40 minutes. The noise (even with a helmet) and vibration made it hard to stay up much longer. Hope you keep it to make more videos!
@@MahaBali7975 prop noise is still a factor but overall I would think less vibration and obviously no exhaust noise. AND just let off the throttle and beautiful silence!
cheers mate and thanks for that insight of this unit. i was thinking about to get one these days. hey quick question i heared you say no wind trims out. doesnt that mean you come in even faster? why trims in while flying and trims out for landing? opinions are going so far apart on this topic that i dont know what to believe anymore
Hey buddy, great question! When there is no headwind to land into, you need speed in order to Flare strong enough to stop quickly. If you come in "trims in"... with no wind... you may approach slower but you won't have the flare needed so you will run a lot more. I know it seems backward, I learned this the hard way the first few landings on my Spyder 3. Usually a neutral trim and grab top of brakes (or wrap) for the best flare. Hope that helps.
@@adam-newbloom dude thank you so much! YES this helps alot. finally somebody can answer this and confirm what made sense in my mind. yes i also think you need more speed to have the energy to flare. otherwise you come down slow and almost 45 degree angle with very little energy left and stuck a hard landing. there is no teacher here where i live and the people who call them teacher screw up so much more then me with my 7-8 total flights. constantly shredding props and other nonsense. if i ask them about this they always give me answers very far apart which made no sense in my mind. i remember the second flight couple of months ago the guy set my trims all out for full speed and said "thrust me this is right!" launch was bad because i had to run a marathon and coudnt get up from ground. landing was worse and i crash landed that one in on purpose by not even trying to stand the landing at such high speed and risk faceplanting with 2 broken arms. video on this is also up if you wanna see the disaster. "Second PPG flight - watch me fail in 4k" is the name. sometimes i really thing pilots here trolling me just to watch me fail. at last i followed the instruction manual of my wing and that means trims all in for launch and landing in low winds. zero wind they say nothing but now i have that figured out as well so thanks a ton mate!
@@cloudpandarism2627 Glad to help my friend. It's tough in a sport like this as I do believe it's a lot of trial and error. There isn't ONE perfect method as there are many different skillsets, weights, types of equipment and wings. On my Dudek Driftair, you stay trimmed in even landing in no wind because the glider is so fast and it flares hard even trimmed in. But my Spyder 3 will be a hard and fast decent if not trimmed to neutral. I would love to fly with a nice headwind but my area has a lot of trees and large hills that disturb the air. Flying in Florida (flat) and nice winds is where I trained. It was so easy to fly there... then reality hits when you get home :) Keep it up and do your research. I'll check out your video... there is a saying "Most people want you to fail" This only validates why they cannot do it, or it makes them feel better about themselves. So always push yourself and leave the negative people behind you.
@@adam-newbloom hey i am about to get that SP140. how if the status on yours? sold? still flying it? i had some more flights at the beach and it was fione until my pullstarter had a major stroke midflight and ripped itself apart forcing me to do my first emergency landing. video of that disaster is also up if you wanna check it out. while i am waiting the repaired motor to be back i also prepare to buy the SP140 without battery and make my own here with better performance and flight time. keep the blue side up°
Got an old frame w top 80. Interested in a conversion w 4 small electric motors. Best battery system to incorporate? Interested in a truly open source DIY thing. 7k someone is making serious coin.
I'm sure the money starts rolling in after making a few dozen, but there's a lot that goes into the process of making a product that's ready for mass production as well logistics and shipping. I think you nailed it, deciding on what battery would be most effective as well as a good distribution of weight would be the challenge. Otherwise the electric motor is pretty basic. They do make a four-prop machine as well, check out openppg's website.
I don't really worry about it. I use these batteries in so many applications (electric car, to power my home, etc) and I've yet to have an issue. Anything can happen and if it does... that would suck. But not worth worrying about for me.
I saw a video just last week where a gas powered motor caught fire in flight. luckily the pilot got it down, with from what I understand, were relatively minor injuries. point is, traditional motors can catch fire too. Gas and diesel powered vehicles catch fire everyday, and no one really bats an eye. Every time an electric car catches fire, its all over the news.
My freesh breeze harness has a Jetson option aka eject pins that will dump the cage and motor in case of 🔥 or water landing. Certainly that could be used in this application somehow.
I'll buy it! I've been flying a couple years and love the wind of silence. Due to family, farm, kids etc. My longest flight has just reached 45 min. But I think you'll keep it. Within a year or 2 you'll be able to have half the battery weight with twice the run tit's the run time due to new battery technology. But seriously if you want to sell hit me up consider it sold.
So what’s your opinion on the longest flight possible with this unit flying the way you just were? They obviously advertise an hour flight time but everyone I see or ask about it has never even been in or above the 50 minute mark. Also how much are you selling it for?
I've heard guys using paraglider wings do better (more efficient I guess). But yeah most are under the 50min. I cannot seem to get more than 40 min, but my all up weight is higher. I ripped around on it the other evening and got almost 30 min but that was some aggressive flying (fun)!
@@adam-newbloom is the spider not a PG and PPG wing? The roadster is and I thought the only difference between the two was the thickness of the material…either way they shouldn’t be able to advertise 1 hour flight time when no one can get to that without using thermals and free flying to make that happen.
Wings make a big difference. Spyder is the least effective wing I have my Freeride in a smaller wing and cruise speed is way faster and it still about 15% longer flights then my Spyder. The longest flight I've seen someone do on there Sp140 is 1hr 19mins with the stock battery. He was using a larger paragliding wing and is a lighter guy but wings do make a huge difference. Paramotor reflex wings are not design for efficient.
@@michaelbartlett1589 It can be used for both, but it's not as efficient as wings designed specifically for PG. I really don't understand it exactly but there is something to it ;)
Thank you for the update. I have been enjoying your videos on this machine. So tempted to get one. I don’t think 30-40 minutes is enough for me. Also did not know you are from Minnesota. I am as well. Where in Minnesota are you from?
I'm from the Duluth/Two Harbors area. I've been in TN about 10 years. Thanks for the feedback, yeah the short flights are not as fun but they do offer something different.
A little less time in the air, but a lot less time monkeying around on the bench with a two stroke. Check your belt, change your fuel lines, remove the head and scrap off the carbon, fix the pull start, weld the cracks in the exhaust, adjust the carb and clean it. Replace the mounts. Check the plug, make sure not running lean or boom. Face it, two stroke engines suck.
That's absurd that they are using voltage under load to measure how much batter is left lol. Put a shunt resistor on the pack and measure how much is leaving it. This makes me thing the designers didn't know what they were doing.
Thinking of getting into the sport. This is the kind of flying I would like to have. Thanks for making the video.
Nice job. Thanks for taking us along on that fun flight. Good update on the SP140.
Nice relaxing flight Adam I enjoyed listening to your commentary I appreciate your honesty about the pluses and minuses on this sp140 electric Paramotor set up…👋
I have an X4 and have flown it with 8 X 6S LiPo (Bonkas) batteries or about 4kwh. About the same total energy available as the one hour pack for the SP140. I was flying that for 20-25 mins to make sure I had some left for a missed approach. Watching and listening to your energy/battery management thinking is very familiar to me! Still I really love the machine. Being electric allows me to fly from a local park without much ado. However I also just purchased a Kangook Amaruk with an Atom 80. The decision was made, or justified, by the fact that I may not live long enough for batteries to get that much better, and I want to fly longer flights. We'll see how it all goes. I store my LiPos at 50%. My chargers have a 'storage' function and or I can specify the voltage for cut-off. Figure out how long it takes to charge to 75% and set an alarm.
"Seems like a spot (a power line) would be." Sure as hell does! wow. :O
Bingo landing! Right up to the house. Respect!
I dream of building a ppg trike with wheels to help support the weight of an 80lb battery pack, to get that 2 hrs of endurance.
How much is an extra battery. Would it be easy to land, swap batteries and launch again?
I think they're like 1500 bucks for an additional battery
Great videos make more of the electric power motor getting ready to pull the trigger. 10 powered power I'm sick of working on my paramotor great solution no adjusting carb I love it battery technology the only thing holding me back
Good afternoon Adan, how are you, I'm from Brazil, I haven't seen this electric paramator here yet, can you tell me, how long can you fly with these batteries, and what recharging time, thank you, have a good flight
Hey buddy, sorry for the delay. I get about 45 minutes of flight time. I could probably get close to an hour but I don't want to drain the battery to zero. Probably takes about 3 hours to fully charge
Nice ...pliz may you help mi with a link where i can buy one
hi Adam techie question regarding say average amps drawn over typical flight , recently bought the same Electric motor but looking at alternate Controller , would be great to have some real user feedback regarding current draw.. i know at take off and initial climb out there will be a big hit , so just trying to get a feel for the load the controller would need to handle . cheers
Sir, did you figure this out?
@@akbarshoed my project stalled due to health issue so im grounded the dream kindaa stoped Grrrrrrrr. the new ESC was Going to cost circa 1500 Pounds so to be honest i have this project on back burner ...right at back LOL cheers
@@calvinhall1405 I understand. I have a desire to put a system together, but only if I can accurately predict the experience. Thanks for the response. Get back up there!
So, you said that you lose thrust or prop rpms at some percent of battery charge? In the EV world that would mean you're losing voltage, right? So, if you wanted to achieve a certain height, like 1,200 ft, each foot would become more of a challenge, not just from the thinning air, but also the reducing voltage? Man, that's a big deal! Thanks for this.
another nice video Adam , really impressed by your commentary and honest views regarding this bit of kit, wow lovely area to fly , you must really have some good neighbors to let you dance around their corn stalks LpL ..my kindda flying , getting older but wished id jumped on this bandwagon , Batteries will improve and so flight times so hang in there , impressive stuff , so Big up thanks for posting :-) this armchair wannabe really enjoyed this clip Cheers Adam
Thanks for sharing that nice feedback, it's very much appreciated!
It’s not too late! Do what you love while you can (;
Beautiful flight! Thanks for the review/update. The only downside I can see is shorter duration of flight and greater attention to time management. With time, improved battery tech should slowly reduce this “disadvantage “. That said, most of my PPG flights were less than 40 minutes. The noise (even with a helmet) and vibration made it hard to stay up much longer. Hope you keep it to make more videos!
Yes, you are right
But I had always heard that electric ones are quieter than gas?🤔🤔🤔
@@MahaBali7975 prop noise is still a factor but overall I would think less vibration and obviously no exhaust noise. AND just let off the throttle and beautiful silence!
@@loums52 Wow, then no throttle silence is awesome!!!
Did you want to sell it?
Great review
Great video and flight. What do you normally fly if not the Spyder 3?
I have a Sirocco 3 as well as a Dudek Driftair... all great wings for different needs.
cheers mate and thanks for that insight of this unit. i was thinking about to get one these days. hey quick question i heared you say no wind trims out. doesnt that mean you come in even faster? why trims in while flying and trims out for landing? opinions are going so far apart on this topic that i dont know what to believe anymore
Hey buddy, great question! When there is no headwind to land into, you need speed in order to Flare strong enough to stop quickly. If you come in "trims in"... with no wind... you may approach slower but you won't have the flare needed so you will run a lot more. I know it seems backward, I learned this the hard way the first few landings on my Spyder 3. Usually a neutral trim and grab top of brakes (or wrap) for the best flare. Hope that helps.
@@adam-newbloom dude thank you so much! YES this helps alot. finally somebody can answer this and confirm what made sense in my mind. yes i also think you need more speed to have the energy to flare. otherwise you come down slow and almost 45 degree angle with very little energy left and stuck a hard landing.
there is no teacher here where i live and the people who call them teacher screw up so much more then me with my 7-8 total flights. constantly shredding props and other nonsense. if i ask them about this they always give me answers very far apart which made no sense in my mind. i remember the second flight couple of months ago the guy set my trims all out for full speed and said "thrust me this is right!" launch was bad because i had to run a marathon and coudnt get up from ground. landing was worse and i crash landed that one in on purpose by not even trying to stand the landing at such high speed and risk faceplanting with 2 broken arms. video on this is also up if you wanna see the disaster. "Second PPG flight - watch me fail in 4k" is the name. sometimes i really thing pilots here trolling me just to watch me fail.
at last i followed the instruction manual of my wing and that means trims all in for launch and landing in low winds. zero wind they say nothing but now i have that figured out as well so thanks a ton mate!
@@cloudpandarism2627 Glad to help my friend. It's tough in a sport like this as I do believe it's a lot of trial and error. There isn't ONE perfect method as there are many different skillsets, weights, types of equipment and wings. On my Dudek Driftair, you stay trimmed in even landing in no wind because the glider is so fast and it flares hard even trimmed in. But my Spyder 3 will be a hard and fast decent if not trimmed to neutral. I would love to fly with a nice headwind but my area has a lot of trees and large hills that disturb the air. Flying in Florida (flat) and nice winds is where I trained. It was so easy to fly there... then reality hits when you get home :) Keep it up and do your research. I'll check out your video... there is a saying "Most people want you to fail" This only validates why they cannot do it, or it makes them feel better about themselves. So always push yourself and leave the negative people behind you.
@@adam-newbloom hey i am about to get that SP140. how if the status on yours? sold? still flying it? i had some more flights at the beach and it was fione until my pullstarter had a major stroke midflight and ripped itself apart forcing me to do my first emergency landing. video of that disaster is also up if you wanna check it out.
while i am waiting the repaired motor to be back i also prepare to buy the SP140 without battery and make my own here with better performance and flight time. keep the blue side up°
@@cloudpandarism2627 And you made it!😂😂❤❤❤ Congratulations 🎉🎉🎉
You could wire a relay or switch into the power cable so you can disconnection/reconnect in-flight.
Yes, great point. I've thought about adding a switch anyway to easily disconnect battery "if" an issue ever came up.
Can you fry it up to 50 miles high? That would be awesome with an oxygen tank..
Does sp140 come with wing and if so what brand? Thanks
No it's like any other paramotor, you purchase the wing separately.
Got an old frame w top 80.
Interested in a conversion w 4 small electric motors. Best battery system to incorporate? Interested in a truly open source DIY thing.
7k someone is making serious coin.
I'm sure the money starts rolling in after making a few dozen, but there's a lot that goes into the process of making a product that's ready for mass production as well logistics and shipping. I think you nailed it, deciding on what battery would be most effective as well as a good distribution of weight would be the challenge. Otherwise the electric motor is pretty basic. They do make a four-prop machine as well, check out openppg's website.
Good video, sir. Have you tried a trike with the SP140 ? Thinking you could add a battery and switch when the other one gets low, is this possible?
This may be my next adventure... trying to make that work.
@@adam-newbloom Can't wait to see this video.
Where do you live? Is it still still for sale? I’m very interested in this paramotor!
I live in tennessee. I've had many offers to buy this, unfortunately I enjoy it too much as a second motor so at this time it's not for sale.
Do you worry about a battery fire? In the air it could be a disaster.
I don't really worry about it. I use these batteries in so many applications (electric car, to power my home, etc) and I've yet to have an issue. Anything can happen and if it does... that would suck. But not worth worrying about for me.
I saw a video just last week where a gas powered motor caught fire in flight. luckily the pilot got it down, with from what I understand, were relatively minor injuries. point is, traditional motors can catch fire too. Gas and diesel powered vehicles catch fire everyday, and no one really bats an eye. Every time an electric car catches fire, its all over the news.
@@toddhaynes3663 Thanks Todd, you are exactly right.
My freesh breeze harness has a Jetson option aka eject pins that will dump the cage and motor in case of 🔥 or water landing. Certainly that could be used in this application somehow.
I'll buy it! I've been flying a couple years and love the wind of silence. Due to family, farm, kids etc. My longest flight has just reached 45 min. But I think you'll keep it. Within a year or 2 you'll be able to have half the battery weight with twice the run tit's the run time due to new battery technology. But seriously if you want to sell hit me up consider it sold.
So what’s your opinion on the longest flight possible with this unit flying the way you just were? They obviously advertise an hour flight time but everyone I see or ask about it has never even been in or above the 50 minute mark. Also how much are you selling it for?
I've heard guys using paraglider wings do better (more efficient I guess). But yeah most are under the 50min. I cannot seem to get more than 40 min, but my all up weight is higher. I ripped around on it the other evening and got almost 30 min but that was some aggressive flying (fun)!
@@adam-newbloom is the spider not a PG and PPG wing? The roadster is and I thought the only difference between the two was the thickness of the material…either way they shouldn’t be able to advertise 1 hour flight time when no one can get to that without using thermals and free flying to make that happen.
Wings make a big difference. Spyder is the least effective wing I have my Freeride in a smaller wing and cruise speed is way faster and it still about 15% longer flights then my Spyder.
The longest flight I've seen someone do on there Sp140 is 1hr 19mins with the stock battery. He was using a larger paragliding wing and is a lighter guy but wings do make a huge difference. Paramotor reflex wings are not design for efficient.
@@michaelbartlett1589 It can be used for both, but it's not as efficient as wings designed specifically for PG. I really don't understand it exactly but there is something to it ;)
@@PDWhite Great post, thank you for sharing! I have a smaller wing coming that I'd love to try it on!
How much are you selling it for? How did no one ask that question? Wow
I actually decided not to sell it for the time being. I'm enjoying it too much on those evening flights. It's a very cool addition to the lineup.
Amazing video,thanks for sharing greeting succes from Indonesia paramotor.. 👍👍👍
Thank you for the update. I have been enjoying your videos on this machine. So tempted to get one. I don’t think 30-40 minutes is enough for me. Also did not know you are from Minnesota. I am as well. Where in Minnesota are you from?
I'm from the Duluth/Two Harbors area. I've been in TN about 10 years. Thanks for the feedback, yeah the short flights are not as fun but they do offer something different.
A little less time in the air, but a lot less time monkeying around on the bench with a two stroke. Check your belt, change your fuel lines, remove the head and scrap off the carbon, fix the pull start, weld the cracks in the exhaust, adjust the carb and clean it. Replace the mounts. Check the plug, make sure not running lean or boom. Face it, two stroke engines suck.
You nailed it! Great way to look at it!
Batteries need to get much better for sales to really take off..90 min is not long enough....BUT I WANT ONE..
Cool! So have you decided to hold on to it after all?
Thanks Mark... yeah hard to part with it after that flight!
ohh, its louder than I thought, somehow I imagined electric paramotor doesnt make a sound ha
yeah the prop is where a lot of the noise comes from. Would be awesome if it made no sound!
Anyone else noticed when the pilot gets to the round dam, he'd essentially Parked?
That's absurd that they are using voltage under load to measure how much batter is left lol. Put a shunt resistor on the pack and measure how much is leaving it. This makes me thing the designers didn't know what they were doing.
90 min flight...means 30 min out..30 min back..with little to spare
4sale
@@ToeJam31stPN are you asking if the electric paramotor is for sale?
@adam-newbloom yes
If you have to remind to yourself why would you love the machine then you don’t really truly love it.
Nice video tho !