EPISODE 32: CLAUDIA vs. SNOWTHAPRODUCT

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  • Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
  • On this episode of the Overcomfort podcast, I sit down with Claudia aka SnowThaProduct and really get into her world as a mom, artist, sister and daughter. We get into topics about her musical career, the challenges of being bilingual, queer, and a women rapper in the industry, and how being a mom changed her life.
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  • @Aylensdiary
    @Aylensdiary 8 місяців тому +217

    The fact that Snow brought up immigration issues is sooo important !! , us as Hispanics need to educate ourselves more with everything that is happening to our people…

  • @leilanidelreal
    @leilanidelreal 8 місяців тому +267

    Jenika got real quiet when she started talking about real life issues that are happening to immigrants but people are too invested into dumb ass drama like Willito & shawty

    • @Asdfzmlop
      @Asdfzmlop 8 місяців тому +14

      Time stamp it 🥹🤣🤣🤌🏽🤌🏽🤌🏽

    • @maamaas
      @maamaas 8 місяців тому +33

      I love her, but yes she was all like yup, yup, yup lol she was over it like girl we wana hear what u got to say to lol snow is more sexy because how educated she is! Lol

    • @SadGirlsRUs
      @SadGirlsRUs 7 місяців тому +1

      I thought it was just me!!!!! Thank you

  • @irene_000
    @irene_000 8 місяців тому +289

    The fact that Snow was signed to such a big label and didn’t make it to mainstream is wild. She is so talented! I admire her hustle and she always reps our culture 🇲🇽 Her going independent was such a badass move. 💪🏼

    • @michelegeren3413
      @michelegeren3413 8 місяців тому

      Im convinced, at this point, it is becausr she wouldnt get half ass naked and the old fogeys running this shit didnt know what to do with that

    • @Cintz28
      @Cintz28 8 місяців тому +10

      I will forever be a fan Snow ❤

    • @jansport4290
      @jansport4290 8 місяців тому +2

      @@Cintz28Colombians feel the same way 🔥

    • @CLSQWUN
      @CLSQWUN 8 місяців тому +9

      Big labels ain't shit without talent. She knew her worth & did sum wit it on her own. As anyone should 🇲🇽🫡

    • @Shawn-f4t
      @Shawn-f4t 5 днів тому

      Who cares, things happen for a reason. I offered her partnership of Third Eye Sound with her and me and Alex Jones A bunch of times.??????????????

  • @melissacal08
    @melissacal08 8 місяців тому +182

    A lot of people sleep on snow she’s not only a great mother,rapper,entertainer,business woman and advocates for us. She’s speaks nothing but facts and is as real as it comes. Thank you jenicka for having her here.

  • @lovely.jeanette
    @lovely.jeanette 8 місяців тому +251

    “Hija de tú legendaria madre”
    😂😂

    • @jnm2088
      @jnm2088 8 місяців тому

      Lmao I loved that.

  • @nataliadx
    @nataliadx 8 місяців тому +42

    I just want to announce and let everyone know SNOW is and forever gonna be an icon, legend, motivation, inspiration etc. the list goes on

  • @melissacal08
    @melissacal08 8 місяців тому +85

    There’s no other artist/rapper like Claudia. No one goes as hard as she does for us,doing live podcast vlogging and actually has some sort of relationship with us.I’m glad that she’s independent and is able to do all the things she does with her family. She’s literally coming up and bring up her family along. The ppl have been following her,we’ve seen how hard it’s been but also rewarding

  • @rockinrobin3733
    @rockinrobin3733 8 місяців тому +97

    Not Jenika being lit af 😂 yall have great vibes together ❤

    • @LoveLala01
      @LoveLala01 8 місяців тому

      She dates girls … les’t not forget nothing wrong with it. Claudia beautiful too!

    • @susy_ss
      @susy_ss 8 місяців тому +3

      She was definitely drunk

  • @lovelybrendaxo
    @lovelybrendaxo 8 місяців тому +83

    Glad that we got another side of snow 🥹🫶🏽 Love your podcast jenicka ☺️

  • @dianamaldonado4818
    @dianamaldonado4818 8 місяців тому +17

    I see so much of jenni in various shots and angles of jenicka 🫶🏼🥺 the hair and outfit feels so nostalgic she has her mommas smile and warm soul

  • @wendyg09
    @wendyg09 8 місяців тому +26

    SNOW was my therapist on this episode. Enjoyed and listened to every word she uttered. Also when she said “hija de tu legendaria madre” 😂💗🫶🏼 much love!

    • @melissacal08
      @melissacal08 8 місяців тому +7

      She’s literally our therapist every Tuesdays over the live pod in Everynight nights lol 😅

    • @carolynnnnnnn
      @carolynnnnnnn 8 місяців тому

      @@melissacal08lol even her TikTok lives are therapeutic ✨ she shares so much knowledge

    • @sz.theblessed
      @sz.theblessed 4 місяці тому

      @@melissacal08isn’t it everydaydays

  • @pricilaarmando6209
    @pricilaarmando6209 8 місяців тому +77

    Love that Snow talked about REAL WORLD PROBLEMS

  • @luisafiallo661
    @luisafiallo661 8 місяців тому +72

    SNOW💙
    I have NEVER seen a FULL episode of ANY podcast, but this one !👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I LOVE you two together ❤️

  • @edyc74
    @edyc74 8 місяців тому +20

    Snow is me AF 😂 "give this woman some water" lol

  • @YLopez-yy5uv
    @YLopez-yy5uv 8 місяців тому +20

    Snow the product Maaan! You got me. Im literally in tears typing this. Those last minutes were so special and you are absolutely right! Forever long Live La diva Jenni Rivera 👑 🙏🏽🕊️

  • @whatevervlogs9663
    @whatevervlogs9663 7 місяців тому +4

    My mom LOVED Jenny Rivera, when I was young I was annoyed by Jenny because my mom played her music so much in the car and sing along. Now that I'm oldy Jenny Rivera's songs really hit me now. I love her voice and her songs, it just hits different when your older.

  • @ashlyguzman4035
    @ashlyguzman4035 8 місяців тому +114

    When Jenicka laughed at " your carpet dirty" joke she sounded and moved just like her mama use to laugh. That gave me a nostalgic feeling its a beautiful thing to see

    • @mariaochoa611
      @mariaochoa611 8 місяців тому +1

      42:03
      🤣🤣🤣Even after reading this comment it still caught me off guard 😂😂😂😂

    • @karinacontreras2303
      @karinacontreras2303 4 місяці тому

      Snow is so intelectual ❤️ & talented . Just want to talk to her one for the one time & make her fall inlove .

  • @paulasilva-ns7mz
    @paulasilva-ns7mz 8 місяців тому +20

    Straight people are so mystified by queer people's process of coming into ourselves. I love how Snow broke it down to her so clearly, and patiently.😊

  • @Heidixisabel
    @Heidixisabel 8 місяців тому +25

    i’m now obsessed with snow 😍 great personality. best episode yet

  • @Aylensdiary
    @Aylensdiary 8 місяців тому +36

    I wanna be as lit as Jenika was in this podcast 🤣

  • @valeriemartinez688
    @valeriemartinez688 8 місяців тому +35

    Snow is such a sweetheart 🥲 i love how she spoke up about us also paying attention to what goes on in our latin community. Double like for that❗️

  • @nanccyyy
    @nanccyyy 8 місяців тому +8

    Claudia!! We love you, you’re legit that WOMAN!! You speak for us women and us immigrants ❤ THANK YOU! Thank you Jenicka for having this beautiful gem 💎

  • @Geminiinique
    @Geminiinique 8 місяців тому +41

    Jenicka don’t drink mamas you don’t make sense sometimes lol

    • @booskieoskkk3861
      @booskieoskkk3861 8 місяців тому +2

      agree🤣🤣🤣

    • @jesusflores411
      @jesusflores411 7 місяців тому

      THEY KEEP SAYING . DONT YOU REMEMBER WHO MY MOM IS??? YES UR MOM NOT YOU GUYS... JHONNY GOT SOOOOO STUPID TRYING TO SHOW UP AT SNOWS PODCAST. HE MADE A FOOL AT HIM SELF.

    • @jesusflores411
      @jesusflores411 7 місяців тому

      Jenicka just don't drink during podcast u really struggle putting words together. And at times u don't make sense.

  • @21VIDEOZ
    @21VIDEOZ 8 місяців тому +18

    The last couple of minutes of snow talking about real-life issues is gold. I'm so glad she brought it up and spoke about it because she is right. Our community and the majority of america is way too invested in the chisme and drama. There is so much going on in the background.

  • @alanisflores9902
    @alanisflores9902 8 місяців тому +9

    This was by far my most favorite episode !! Snow is a real one & seeing u both on another podcast is the best combination ever ! Love it

  • @dnniela99
    @dnniela99 8 місяців тому +9

    therapy feels like it’s for you to understand yourself & others to be able to let go of the shit that isn’t letting you move forward in life. love this! 🎉

  • @gemm6139
    @gemm6139 8 місяців тому +18

    I'm loving these podcasts with Snow. They've all showed a diff side of her 🫶🏽

    • @nitsellecotto
      @nitsellecotto 8 місяців тому

      Yes it did, nice to see her let her hair down.

  • @Negis831
    @Negis831 8 місяців тому +21

    I hope one day there's a movie based on Snow's story, because her story is truly one of a kind.
    Snow is soo talented, that if any record label signed her, they literally have to do nothing in regards to creating 'tha product' because she is 'tha product' so unique just by being herself.

  • @jessllo5
    @jessllo5 8 місяців тому +12

    100% agree snow! We need to get more educated on what’s going on, and unfortunately it’s not good.

  • @MoniqueS805
    @MoniqueS805 8 місяців тому +35

    I love snow since she was Snow White on mcmagics song Diggin and her song
    Drunk Love way back early
    2000s

    • @leilanielyse
      @leilanielyse 8 місяців тому +2

      I still jamm to Drunk Love 🙌

    • @MoniqueS805
      @MoniqueS805 8 місяців тому +1

      @@leilanielyse me too!

  • @nflorez75
    @nflorez75 8 місяців тому +4

    Omg I love it. I'm crying. We need the song. The collaboration we never thought we needed.. much love and respect.

  • @mtina031
    @mtina031 8 місяців тому +37

    Is it me or was Jennika drunk inlove from start to finish lol

    • @leslie6184
      @leslie6184 8 місяців тому +7

      Yesssss 🤣 but I feel like snow vibes with chiquis more

  • @Vibehigher.Loyalty
    @Vibehigher.Loyalty 3 місяці тому

    watching this for the 6th time, and still getting so much out of it!! Snow is such an amazing person and has done so much much self understanding she motivates me everyday. Thank you Jenika for getting deep!!

  • @alysiaricoy5965
    @alysiaricoy5965 8 місяців тому +6

    I love both of you . She’s one of my faves so far on here . I seen her years back at Latin energy fest . And I’m proud of the artist she is today . So dope .

  • @glambygracee
    @glambygracee 8 місяців тому +5

    This has to be one of my favorite interviews to watch!!! ❤❤❤❤

  • @CynnLpz
    @CynnLpz 8 місяців тому +5

    I loved this episode ! I’m a big snow fan and the reason she loves your momma is one of the reasons I love her, always speaking up for our culture. She’s a good time it seems like but she’s knowledgeable too. I laughed cried, great pod.
    Hope to see Jayco + Valentina on here soon too

  • @snowthaproductitaly
    @snowthaproductitaly 8 місяців тому +6

    I loved to see this podcast,Snow is really Amazing and is always great to hear her talk,thank you for having her on your pod ❤

  • @MsYessy25
    @MsYessy25 8 місяців тому +24

    @laplatica we want snow the product ❤❤❤❤ get her on your podcast... Who agrees?? 😊

    • @priscillaespinoza2542
      @priscillaespinoza2542 8 місяців тому +2

      Yay finally I was thinking and thinking of this we need to get her on the platica she deserves the platform ❤🎉🎉🎉

    • @maritzanunez1909
      @maritzanunez1909 8 місяців тому +2

      NO DISRESPECT BUT NOT COOL TO COMMENT ANOTHER PLATFORM ON SOMEONE ELSES JUST SAYING 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️✌🏻✌🏻🫶🫶🙏🙏🙏

    • @brendahuezo4843
      @brendahuezo4843 8 місяців тому

      @laplatica yassssssss

  • @tricie928
    @tricie928 8 місяців тому +3

    This podcast was such a blessing!!! Thank y'all... Positive Energy 🎉

  • @marleneruiz5339
    @marleneruiz5339 8 місяців тому +12

    Snow needs to make a ALBUM with Russ 🥹 okay okay not me wanting a whole album lol but definitely a song or two 😜🫢😏

  • @gheraldez
    @gheraldez 8 місяців тому +6

    Snow should run for president hands down she can talk

  • @_pearlinspanish
    @_pearlinspanish 7 місяців тому +1

    This is my favorite! Snow is the best guest you’ve had on your podcast! I love how she’s so open and is t afraid to speak about what is going on in real life! Los mexicanos somos los más chingones 👏🏽

  • @jasminem7827
    @jasminem7827 8 місяців тому +5

    Jenicka channeling her momma in this fit 💕 + her laugh was so genuine in this episode

  • @Iva_2002
    @Iva_2002 8 місяців тому +7

    Awww hell yeah!!! I love you 2 together!!! Am I the only one that loves snow’s laugh?

  • @monislife96
    @monislife96 8 місяців тому +7

    this has got to be my fav podcast episode 🥲

  • @user-DianaR960
    @user-DianaR960 8 місяців тому +3

    Yesss snow ! ❤ I love how she talks about what’s really important 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

  • @paolam9075
    @paolam9075 8 місяців тому +6

    Wow wow wow!! The ending of the podcast was so amazing!! Snow really spoke facts. Shes so real! She is too real and I love it!

  • @carolynnnnnnn
    @carolynnnnnnn 8 місяців тому +4

    Loved this interview ❤ to know Snow/Claudia is to love her. She’s out here kicking doors down and paving the way, a whole bad ass self taught, independent artist/entrepreneur. Wish Snow nothing but the best 💜

  • @jmorfin8
    @jmorfin8 8 місяців тому +6

    I loved this entire episode. I pray that JennixSnow collab happens! They are my top two streams ❤

  • @oliviahernandez5780
    @oliviahernandez5780 8 місяців тому +4

    I’m so proud of Jenika she’s growing…
    Snow baby your an amazing inspirational humble person for that you will have many blessings ❤keep being you .

  • @bbychunkz
    @bbychunkz 8 місяців тому +20

    "Lesbian chickens" always kills me 😂

  • @melissacal08
    @melissacal08 8 місяців тому +6

    2 legends together that’s a new core memory let that song out!!! I fucking love snow and I agree as Mexican women we are already way below. I literally tear up with snow as she was closing up the pod. I can listen to this woman all day everyday. Amen snow you are a legend we continue to give you your flowers as you said it before now and later

  • @Thevelvetletters
    @Thevelvetletters 8 місяців тому +7

    Love from Miami to jenicka and snow. Been a fan of snow for so long. She definitely deserves all the credit and recognition. Loved this episode 🔥🔥

    • @Thevelvetletters
      @Thevelvetletters 8 місяців тому +1

      Also if you’re in Miami come to my tattoo shop. My husband is amazing with portraits. We got you. For real.

  • @juanmadrid2960
    @juanmadrid2960 8 місяців тому +4

    This was such a good episode! I love Snows voice and she’s absolutely stunning. Both you and Snow are such a vibe ❤

  • @Juicyvickk
    @Juicyvickk 8 місяців тому +5

    I LOVED THIS POD SO MUCH 🎉 i just love you jenicka and snow like yall are so real i love it

  • @masamormenosdolorpodcast
    @masamormenosdolorpodcast 8 місяців тому +4

    I love you SNOW ✨you are and will continue to be the best out there! 🫶🏻 just know you have a whole community supporting you ALWAYS!

  • @karelycarbajal5989
    @karelycarbajal5989 8 місяців тому +2

    I’ve learned so much from her from her own podcast, from your podcast, and I pray to God she gets invited with La Platica 😩 she will be great. Much love to Snow

  • @chrisandlaurasmith
    @chrisandlaurasmith 8 місяців тому +2

    I love this podcast so much and I love them together on the podcast!! I am a huge Jenni fan and the fact that Snow loves her and talked about how amazing she is made this even better!! I hope that song she made with Jenni gets released!!❤❤

  • @claudiaanahimv9882
    @claudiaanahimv9882 7 місяців тому +1

    Tanto que pasa en el mundo que ignoramos pero si no nos tenemos que ir tan lejos .. gracias por mencionarlo

  • @jasmineolguin6210
    @jasmineolguin6210 8 місяців тому +6

    Loved you on her podcast and now loving this episode of her on yours. Such great vibes on both 🤍

  • @kcsalvador581
    @kcsalvador581 8 місяців тому +4

    I honestly had no idea who Snow was before this but I’m a fan now 🫶🏼 I relate to her so much ❤

  • @dorothy4719
    @dorothy4719 8 місяців тому +4

    Omg I love you guys together! This was awesome! Great job Jenicka! ♥️

  • @lesliemichelle6836
    @lesliemichelle6836 8 місяців тому +3

    This was the best episode yet!

  • @lorenaaa94
    @lorenaaa94 8 місяців тому +7

    Jenicka you redeemed yourself in my books with this episode!!❤️ Iykyk

  • @92murdah
    @92murdah 8 місяців тому +3

    That’s so true when it came to the Latin Mexican community!! As Latin/Mexicans there a lot of ppl that are invested in so much bs instead of making something outta themselves to keep a legacy going !! Some
    Ppl are Forgot who they are 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽

  • @leslieperez7072
    @leslieperez7072 8 місяців тому +37

    Jenicka was HELLA LIT 😂🤣

  • @carlosdeleon6472
    @carlosdeleon6472 8 місяців тому +1

    Love when snow she always talks about REAL LIFE ISSUES that’s why I support her aside being part of the community ♥️

  • @Ramirez4234
    @Ramirez4234 8 місяців тому +2

    Been a fan of Snow for a lot of year's. Wish I could say it's been since DAY ONE, however it was a couple of year's into her career. She's always been the same person and doesn't change anything about herself for anyone. Everything she does is to better herself in her on eye's. The world doesn't know how to handle har and her truth, that's why she dint take off the way she should have when she was signed. She's done so much better doing for herself, with the help other Brother and her family. Permanent Product Pusher.

  • @elizabethmartinez4151
    @elizabethmartinez4151 8 місяців тому +3

    Snow has ALWAYS been THAT GIRL ! 💪🏾 always kept it 100, and ALWAYS talking on real issues 🤍

  • @lifewithnana6819
    @lifewithnana6819 8 місяців тому +26

    The episode I was waiting for after I watched Snow The Product Podcast. #myfavorites Much love from Houston Girl

  • @jessicajean7921
    @jessicajean7921 8 місяців тому +2

    Love this podcast. Snow is amazing and I love their vibe! Jenicka is so sweet too! ❤

  • @jacquelineramos3977
    @jacquelineramos3977 8 місяців тому +4

    Just a great video ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ snow is sooooo woke when it comes to representing our culture 🇲🇽 I fucking love y’all together

  • @gloria.jewell09
    @gloria.jewell09 8 місяців тому +6

    I'm only 36 minutes in and it's already such a great podcast.

  • @JennnTlaxcalteca
    @JennnTlaxcalteca 8 місяців тому +4

    Wow loved how genuine this podcast was 🫶🏼 🔥

  • @Ayy9324
    @Ayy9324 8 місяців тому +7

    Yess!! Speak up Snow. I'm so glad how you advocate for our people. I wish latinos would speak up and see the potential latinos have. I'm big on our people standing up. We need to support OUR people, bring our people up. Our culture and people are beautiful and unique in our own way. I hate seeing especially our people doing more for other people, cultures, or races. Please please latinos stand up not just for yourself but others especially in this time period where we get so much racism on our people.

  • @TeamTowerDog
    @TeamTowerDog 8 місяців тому +3

    Just about a month ago I ran into SnowThaProduct’s music, I loved it! I was bummed out that I haven’t heard it years prior, I thought it was a new song and it was years old! Definitely recommend 💯

  • @margaritaamigon
    @margaritaamigon 8 місяців тому +32

    Why do I feel like Jenika is low key hitting on snow 🤔 or is it just me

    • @mari.5690
      @mari.5690 8 місяців тому +4

      She copies her sister’s Chiquis vibes

    • @RosaLopez-w6t
      @RosaLopez-w6t 6 місяців тому

      Agreed! All the specific questions 🤔

  • @ashleyboone7321
    @ashleyboone7321 8 місяців тому +4

    absolutely love everything about this episode 💙❄️

  • @sylviadelarosa964
    @sylviadelarosa964 8 місяців тому +4

    She said, “I feel like this is transactional I don’t feel like you love me” omg 😆 😂😂😂😂 love u snow!! Love you Jenicka!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

  • @E_Nicholef
    @E_Nicholef 8 місяців тому +4

    This was a bomb ass ep! The dynamic flows so perfectly I need more 😅🥰

  • @fwda0ne301
    @fwda0ne301 8 місяців тому +4

    Yassss been waiting on this since you went on snows live ! 🎉❤❤❤

  • @giseleandrade3247
    @giseleandrade3247 8 місяців тому +26

    I feel like jenika just agrees with snow but doesn’t even know what she’s talking about. just agreeing to agree

  • @jeidiguevara9980
    @jeidiguevara9980 8 місяців тому +6

    I love how comfortable people are on Jenickas POD.

  • @IrmitaSantos
    @IrmitaSantos 8 місяців тому +4

    I LOVE snow so much! She is such an inspiration y orgullo Mexicano! She's just beautiful all over!

  • @JC-xt1er
    @JC-xt1er 8 місяців тому +2

    Love Snow/Claudia ♥️ I was born in Zacatecas,Villanueva but raised here in La Puente California. I love listening to her

  • @jenespinoza
    @jenespinoza 8 місяців тому +1

    Man Snow never ever lets me down!! She really represents our true value of the Culture!!! 🤍 much love from Fort Worth !!

  • @leslybautista7097
    @leslybautista7097 8 місяців тому +8

    She was right when she was talking about your mom 😭 snow make me cry

  • @jf7978
    @jf7978 8 місяців тому +4

    This was AMAZING!!! Vulnerability is beautiful and this was that at its best from strong women who are not afraid to speak up!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 also Jenicka was LIT 🔥 lol

  • @amandaprifti
    @amandaprifti 8 місяців тому +2

    Nothing but love here Snow!!!❤️ day one right here!!!!! Much luv n respect ALWAYS!!!! 🙏

  • @Kaassl
    @Kaassl 8 місяців тому +3

    “When you know when you know is it too memootional” jenicka is outta there 😂😂

  • @carmendijar5916
    @carmendijar5916 8 місяців тому +11

    But why is Jenicka seem drunk from the start, slurring her words lmao too funny

  • @manuelconstantino3988
    @manuelconstantino3988 8 місяців тому +3

    One of the best podcasts yet

  • @melissacal08
    @melissacal08 8 місяців тому +3

    Snow is a whole mood like an the alter ego Claudia is shy 😊 I love both versions separately and combined

  • @jennylopez2742
    @jennylopez2742 6 місяців тому +1

    We need a part 2, 3, 4, and 5 with snowww!

  • @isarm4698
    @isarm4698 8 місяців тому +2

    I had such a great time watching this podcast,please do more together.

  • @mariaochoa611
    @mariaochoa611 8 місяців тому +4

    🎉🎉🎉 It's finally out! 🎉🎉🎉 Loved their podcast on Snow's Channel! Already know I'm going to love this one too! 💜 💜💜

  • @gloria.jewell09
    @gloria.jewell09 8 місяців тому +4

    What an amazing podcast! And that end... loved this

  • @Verovoxo_
    @Verovoxo_ 8 місяців тому +4

    This was an awesome episode! I enjoyed it sm❤️

  • @carolynnnnnnn
    @carolynnnnnnn 8 місяців тому +8

    Ito…Snow cussed within the first 5 minutes again 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @karensanchez-tn5ir
    @karensanchez-tn5ir 8 місяців тому +5

    I am just so mesmerized by Snow the way she views things! I would honestly love to have a partner like her or her lol 😉! She’s just genuine and upfront! So many people lack that.