The Intertwined Story of China and Mexico in North America
Вставка
- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- This Tuesday, May 17, 2021, and throughout the month of May, Mexico honors the broader Mexican and North American Asian community and formally apologizes to the Chinese Mexican community for the tragic events of May 1911, when 303 Chinese were massacred by revolutionary forces in Torreón. To rectify this history and silenced past, the Mexican Cultural Institute proudly joins the Federal Government’s formal apology to the Chinese Mexican community.
The date set for the formal apology in Mexico coincides with current events in the United States. May in the United States celebrates Asian American and Pacific Islander (AAPI) Heritage Month and North America’s rich, multicultural, and diverse history. May 2021 is particularly important because the Asian Pacific American community has been singled out since the pandemic began. Racism, violence, and sustained attacks against the community have greatly increased. Together we believe, in Mexico and the United States, that it is our shared responsibility to condemn racism and hatred, past and present.
Evelyn Hu-DeHart is Professor of History, and Director of the Center for the Study of Race and Ethnicity in America at Brown. She joined Brown from the University of Colorado at Boulder where she was Chair of the Department of Ethnic Studies and Director of the Center for Studies of Ethnicity and Race in America. She has also taught at the City University of New York system, New York University, Washington University in St. Louis, University of Arizona and University of Michigan, as well as lectured at universities and research institutes in Mexico, Peru, Cuba, France, Hongkong, Taiwan, and China. She was Director, Center for the Study of Race and Ethnicity in America (CSREA), 2002-14. Director, Brown-in- Cuba Program, Havana, Cuba, 2014-15; 2019 Visiting Professor, History Programme, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore, 2015-16. Visiting Professor, Consortium for Advanced Study Abroad (CASA), Barcelona, Spain, Spring 2018. ACLS Centennial Fellow in the Dynamics of Place, 2018-19. Currently she served as International Member, Mexican Academy of History (Academia Mexicana de la Historia), 2019.
I'm a Mexican, spaniard with Chinese heritage (from Mexico). My great grandfather was originally from Guangzouh China and went to Mexico where he met my Mexican Great Grandmother. So glad to see this history being told and taught.❤️ My grandma (their daughter) had to hide her Chinese heritage because of the racist laws in Mexico.
As an Chinese Canadian from Guangzhou I have to give my respects 🙏
china too rich and powerful now...
Racist laws in mexico?? You mean new spain?? At that time Spaniards still had dominance in thr culture
@@ishrendon6435in Mexico there was a genocide in the XX century it does not have anything to do with it.
Saludos mi amigo chino mexicano.
Why weren’t we taught like this in school. Two years with this lady and we would all be much wiser
cuz many Hispanics and native Americans are actually descendants of those Asians that came during that time period (and later).
I'm an amateur historian, this is great! I'm a White guy in Detroit. My dad came here for college from Bogota, Colombia in the 1960s and met my mama, got married, and became a permanent citizen. He always tells me about the Chinese who came to Panama to work on the canal, and settled & expanded into South America. I knew some of them settled into Mexico, but there was a LOT of racism there, both personal and state sanctioned! Just proves how racism is a bad look on anyone!
This lady historian explains Mexico’s 400 years of trade with Asia in a very clear and succinct fashion. Everyone knows about Marco Polo but not many know this history! Since many men serving onboard these galleons were Filipinos and were brought to Mexico where they intermarried with Mexican women and became part of the population but they also brought their own foods and ingredients, that have been incorporated into the local cuisine!
Absolutely, this magnanimous part of history has been overlooked on purpose by the later dominant anglo Saxon WASP world to denigrate any Spanish feats.
Mexico was only established 200 years ago.. before thar were the barbaric Spaniards.. this lady has 50 percent of her facts wrong.. that what wrong with foreigners attempt to tell our history.. in that century the inhabitants were by ancestors.. the mexica aka Azteca.. this is laughable
Thank you for educating an Asian-Indian now living in NYC (for almost 50 years). I am astounded to have not known this fascinating and important part of our global culture.
Damn, I'm Mexican and never heard that story about Torreon. Sobering stuff. Great video.
Would love and need to see your channel grow! Regardless it's amazing already!
No, Guadalajara is not the home of Tequila making, it is the town named Tequila. The drink is called after the town. damn this lady knows all wrong about Mexico.
Wonderful lecture. Thank you.
She's a great teacher! Miss Ma'am, I take my hat off to you, bravo, bravo!
I met you many years ago and you gave me a signed copy of your book Yaqui Resistance.
Wow this chinita wrote about Yaquis!?! I’m a quarter Yaqui!
Thank you this was very informative
Amazing video. I was familiar with some details of this history but this was so fascinating to learn about 🙏
the word catsup comes from cantonese, and refers to a fermented fish sauce, not tomato. it was an American and a British man who independently developed the tomato version. Then Heinz rebranded it as Ketchup to distinguish his recipes from the rest. There were also a bunch of spellings in English.
In Mexico we keep using the word Catsup.
I am 12 minutes in and I love this!
Long story short: After the US trans-continental railroad was built them Amerikanos didn't want nutin to do with the Chinese that helped, or mainly did all the work on the railroad. So the Chinese had no choice but to travel south to Mexico. But they were also not wanted there. So they had to go to an abandoned/desert area and build dwelling places under the ground because of how hot it was there. Now present day Mexicali where there's more chinese restaurant in every corner than mexican restaurants. This is a very not well known fact and have only recently come into the limelight. I just found out about it literally this month because there were a couple of videos about it on my recommendation page. Adios!
I love this comment. So basically the Chinese became the native American Indians. None of her video, does she ever speak on a native tribe residing anywhere in the Americas. Which is why native Indian have mongoloid DNA. Also we now know Asian and white man invaded the Aztec and they murdered killed and enslaved and made a trade economy. And they wanna call themselves a victim of xenophobia and racism. But they came uninvited. Same with the white man and the black afro slaves they brought to conquer Mexico and central and south America.
Dear Evelyn Have you ever noticed the Spanish word Chi Hua Hua which means fireworks is made up of sounds used in Mandarin Chinese to describe fireworks if you stretch it a little. Chi can mean energy and Hua can mean flowers.Stretch Chi to explosion and then you have energy exploding to make flowers in the sky like fireworks? Where does the the state of Chi Hua Hua get it's name? Spanish and or Chinese I wonder. If so from what era of time? The Shang? The Ming? Or in between? It was probably already of that name at the Ching. Your program was really interesting and it struck a corazon chord in me.
Ferdinand Magellan already reached the Philippines 40+ years before Legazpi but was killed in Mactan,Cebu by Lapu-Lapu 😅
Yep. There's a big statue to him in the Phillipines.
I am testifying what this lady is teaching, there's a galleon of Manila replica in Acapulco, the place where i came from. Many people in the costa grade of Acapulco look like Filipinos.
Very interesting. Was ignorant on this part of Mexican history. Goes to show you how history is interwoven. Blind nationalism can be ugly anywhere.
Yup
Fascinating lecture! The ship that went from Acapulco to China and Africa was called ‘La Nao de China’.
She keeps saying Mexico/Mexican when referring to The Manila Galleon Trade Route, which lasted from 1565 to 1815. Mexico became independent from Spain in 1821. One can easily Google that the trade route was run by the Spanish crown, not Mexico.
Thank you, learnt a lot there; did not know about the trans Pacific route(from Europe). You said the galleons used oars but surely, they relied predominantly on their sails ?
This lady is talking about the Spaniards. Not Indigenous people.
Even to this day in Mexico the word chino is used to mean anyone that looks East Asian.
Imperialism was done by most nations since the beginning of time. Not just Americans. Did you know the first slave in America were the Irish.
Potato is from Peru, sweet potato is from Venezuela. Amazing I did not know chili peppers are from Mexico
Did my masters thesis in the Chinese in Baja California, Mexico. Used much of her work as a reference
When time period?
@@Duquedecastro late 19th to early 20th
So many mexican mestizos nowadays throughout mexico have traces of indian/ sri lankan , filipino , thai and chinese / japanese due to the thousands of slaves brought to the ports of mexico and from the ports they spread to agricultural settlements, mining sites , ranch slaves etc. and were almost evenly distributed thoughout all of mexico in the 1550s - 1700s .. but they werent as numerous as the african slaves that were around 250,000 and it is estimated only between 60,000 and 120,000 asian slaves arrived .
so the genetic ancestry experienced a “ diluting effect “ where the ancestry is there but is too dispersed and distant and drowned out by different genetic influences in the mexican gene pool ( spanish/portuguese , indigenous, african , jewish/ semitic ) so it is only found in trace amounts 0.1 % - 2% percent at most in cosmopolitan ( average ) mexicans but is found in higher levels and concentrations in guerrero , colima and michoacan still albeit in small percantages but higher than the average mexican of different regions..
Nice video. Love the Biden/Harris sign!
I have met a two people named
julio chan and juan ching "
WTF ?
I want to meet Ms.Hu we have much to talk about.
Interesting stuff. My own great grandfather snuck into the US via Mexico during the Exclusion Act years. Him and his brother then bought a car in LA and drove all the way to Chicago. This was during the 1920's, when there were hardly any roads in the US. A family story told to me was when they stopped in Salt Lake City, they had to sit in the section of the theatre reserved for non-whites to watch a movie.
The only critique I have of this presentation is that Ms. Hu-Dehart seems a bit too apologetic with regards to Mexican racism, but holds nothing back insofar as Anglo-American racism was concerned. Racism is racism and it was just as bad in Mexico if not worse, than in the USA. Pancho Villa led an active campaign to "exterminate" the Chinese. Massacres occurred on both sides of the border, with the Chinese being the scapegoat every time. During those years, and to a lesser extent today, it is quite easy to see Chinese as the "new Jews" in the West.
Good presentation otherwise though!
But racism is just a subset of tribalism, which regularly occurs among people with similar attributes but other differences (i.e. the problems Chinese people had in Indonesia and they're both Asian). So using today's lens to view the world as it was over 300 years ago doesn't seem appropriate.
@@angstvision7108 300 years ago?! No, this happened just over a hundred years ago (I'm talking about the Mexican/Chinese problem.)
While Mexican racism acts differently than American racism, it has been present in Mexico and sometimes denied.
She forgot to mention , the chino slaves that have only been on this continent a few 100 years were able to sign the Dawes Rolls and be labeled Native Americans. The black ppl that were already in the Americas before slavery were not able to sign the Dawes Rolls.
@@DerrickPJames What's "the Dawes Rolls"?
She forgot to mention , the chino slaves that have only been on this continent a few 100 years were able to sign the Dawes Rolls and be labeled Native Americans. The black ppl that were already in the Americas before slavery were not able to sign the Dawes Rolls.
She missed that on purpose
@@Tru2FFs Yep. They’ll leave that part out .
Why would she. To much money to lose when we take back our Identity
@@heruone3249 I’m glad we’re taking it back. Can’t wait until it’s finally accepted so everyone can stop talking mess.
@@DerrickPJames it’s up hill battle and they going bring out all their agents
No, galleons were not used with oars in the 1600s
By any chance did some of the Asians become the Karitiana and the Surui Tribe of the Amazon?
Yup , many Asians became American Indians
@@THECABSOURHERE😂 thats a lie natives have always been here you can still see the brown inca mummy from 500 years ago frozen body
@@secredeath In California in 1950s law , that’s not a lie, and yes I know of my eastern woodland and plains indian cousins
@@THECABSOURHERE 1950s 🤣 am talking about before spain even found the new world there was no asians here no black eithers
@@secredeath 😂 lemme guess u one of those Spanish speaking, 100 percent native in my head..
Not the first example of globalization. The Bronze age has many examples such as tin, copper, wine, olive oil and wine
It was the first time globally, that is including the American continent. The world came to know how it was for the first time.
Mexican / Spanish white and blue pottery is a derivate of chines pottery
The East Asians Chinese in this instance and use would often be just as racist towards The Amerindians And Black's then the Whites and Mixed Races were yeah
I’m sorry my people massacred Chinese and even in California we where guilty of this along with the Irish ☘️ who where alliances with most Mexican in San. Francisco and Los Angeles
♥️👍👍
china please teach us mexicans how to be rich, clean and powerful like you. much love for china from mexico!
Ive noticed that the people of other places around the world that have chinese/asian populations have problems with them because how they lock in the market in their area n make things expensive.i seen this in a documantary of samoa.
That's just prejudice speaking. The Chinese merchants are always willing to cut prices and profit off their labor mainly. Overall imported goods are always more expensive due to simple concept I should not need to explain.
Not with the filpinos tho Mexico and. Phillpines has. A friendship that is ongoing since 1500s
Thailand/Kingdom of Judea
So I’m guessing all southeast Asian are judean 🤷🏾♂️
Southern Chinese were brought to Mexico to build railroad there how some of the Chinese end up in Mexico and Latin America. The Chinese community have some issue with the native people. Mexican should not hate the Chinese because American natives ancestors came from China too many native people deny that. The Philippines native even worst treated the Chinese the Mexican Chinese have to stay in Macau. Some of Fujianese from Taiwan have Japanese ancestry some settle in Manila due to some typical reason could move back to Mainland later settle in Hawaii
Asian invade Mexico with murder and rape and then began to help the white man expand and build railroad and became slaves of the white man while they enslaved the indigenous of Mexico.
Even before the Spaniards invaded what is now called the Philippines, the different polities reigning in different isles there traded with the Chinese, Thai, Japanese, Indians, etc...etc...etc... Spain/Mexico didn't start the trade...they just forcibly took over what has already been there for centuries...Ni dawat lang ug limpyo 🤣
That's what she said, why are you repeating it as if you're correcting something? Also they didn't just took over, who would China trade with in the Philippines? The goods and buying power of New Spain was unlike anything before in that region, specially for the Philippines which did not have an empire or very developed civilization like that of China or other nations in Asia.
Cali Colombia had lots of immigrant Chinese in 1600. I can see Chinese in some Mexicans like Oaxaca
So the world was already in some ways in exchange/trade b4 columbus.
She forgot to mention , the chino slaves that have only been on this continent a few 100 years were able to sign the Dawes Rolls and be labeled Native Americans. The black ppl that were already in the Americas before slavery were not able to sign the Dawes Rolls.
@@DerrickPJamesUS history is the other way buddy
That Biden/Harris póster didn’t age well 😬
Do you like it?
Always wondered why my uncle looked Asian
It’s not necessarily admixture. Indigenous of the Americas have almond eyes, which people mistake for “looking Asian”.
Don't blame the U.S. for the Mexican Revolution. That conflict was primarily an internal Mexican struggle re: Mexican political & cultural issues. Other countries got involved in the conflict, but weren't the cause of it.
the US can be blamed since its a jewishanglo creation/construct/alliance that has no ties to the americas like many so called 'mexicans' do
How is he a Mexican when there was no Mexico
Good question. Clearly Mexico was invaded by Asian and white eruopeans, who murdered and raped the indigenous people of Mexico and central and south America. While stealing land and building an economy...she calls it globalization to make it like what Asians did was a beautiful thing. But they didn't belong there. And the result was the death of the Aztec, Mayan, incas and Peru almec etc in various time periods. At the hand murdering asians and Europeans.
The Kingdom of México was created around 1527, they were called Mexicanos long before the whole country was called Mexico.
@@Duquedecastro lies before the Europeans invaded the Americas 🌎
their were no borders Mexico
As a country did not exist
The entire westren hemisphere was a whole . They named modern Mexico after the Mexica Aztec tribe. After
the colonization .
It is hard to believe this History!
Watch some Mexican dna reveals or native americans for that fact. They are all part chinese.
But I'm sure you believe in the Odyssey..
But it's easy to believe or not.
In reality noone really gives a shit
The guy who has never read a history book in his life:
Shanghai D Shem/Shum
In the 16th century there was no other Mexico than the city, the country was The Kingdom of Spain, and the region was the Viceroyalty of New Spain and there were other Viceroyalties.
And no, they were not Mexicans, imagine calling the people of the land after the butchers who killed 40,000 of their men per year in "ritual sacrifice" for weird religion that you didn't shared.
The identity of Mexico as a country was created during the period of Independence War and the 18th century and was solidified with Porfirio Diaz submitting al local warlords.
And Spain wasn't an empire because it was proper Monarchy, the Roman's called theirs empire because they wanted to avoid the title of Rex, so they chose the title for the monarch of Imperator.
And in the 16th century, Spain was the European superpower, it would take another two centuries for France and England to completely colapsed it. So it was the Spanish crown contacting China and also Japan.
She is correct in referring to both the immigrants and the people born in the land we now call Mexico as Mexicans.
If they were all considered Spanish, it would suggest that, despite living or being born in what is now Mexico, they would eventually have returned to Spain.
While some Spaniards profited in the Americas and ultimately went back, many settled permanently, started families, and made Mexico their home.
In my opinion, these individuals should also be considered Mexicans, regardless of their country of origin or ancestry. I believe that both perspectives (yours and hers) are valid - it ultimately depends on the contextual lens through which one forms their opinion.
Very interesting right up till you went on an anti-American tirade...
US imperialism
I know....the truth hurts. The english people were separatists. Where the Spanish were intergraters
@@mikecamacho1892 no they were not.
@@Barbiee248 compared to the English yeah they were
She forgot to mention , the chino slaves that have only been on this continent a few 100 years were able to sign the Dawes Rolls and be labeled Native Americans. The black ppl that were already in the Americas before slavery were not able to sign the Dawes Rolls.
My great grandpa is Chinese my great grandma is Mexican, never met my great grandpa
None of this matters now, since you''re now a member of the Raiders Nation! LOL