Haha, in case you're here to comment about the Fulcrum Keychain adapter, yes, I'm aware now that it does indeed hold the bits still. You have to take the whole thing off your key ring in order to use that functionality, but it will do it. And there's a version that is *just* the clipless bit holder part, without the key ring. I swear that wasn't posted on the site when I previously looked, but it's definitely there now! Keyring Clipless Bit Holder: veroengineering.com/collections/fulcrum-pocket-tool-options/products/key-ring-bit-holder Clipless Bit Holder: veroengineering.com/collections/fulcrum-pocket-tool-options/products/fulcrum-clipless-bit-holder
Yeah, now that I know there's a clipless version that still works as a driver, that would solve all of the issues for me too. But mostly because I don't care if (or particularly want) a prybar has a clip, ya know?
@@KnifeNerdery Completely agree! I use a pouch for most of my gear anyway so the clip does nothing but slow me down, also kinda think the clipless option looks better personally.
Yeah, I find that nonlocking knives (and _especially_ these double-detent kinds that pop closed relatively easily) only really work for basic letter or box opening (i.e., tape). Anything above that -- even just basic cardboard cutting -- and I start feeling unsafe. But that's also why I don't mind it at all on a tiny 1.5" fifth-pocket knife like the little Bestech Tulip in this video -- I'm never going to be doing more than tape cutting with one of those anyway!
@@KnifeNerdery yes, that makes perfect sense!! I like the idea, but I use my knives and don’t want an oh, no moment that requires stitches or I get nerve damage like Neaves Knives.
Yeah, it's tough, 'cause a *lot* -- I'd argue the majority, for most people -- of basic knife tasks normal folks encounter in their daily lives definitely don't need a locking blade to be done safely. But others certainly do, and if this were the only knife you were carrying when you encountered one of those, you'd be stuck either not being able to do the task or trying to do it unsafely. Joseph himself pitches this Neuron as a secondary knife -- he says he keeps it in his 5th pocket for those simple tasks, and reaches for something bigger and locking if he has more serious work to do. I definitely know folks who carry two knives on them every day, but that's a minority. I definitely don't. The size itself doesn't bother me for the kinds of tasks I do regularly, but as a one-knife person, I wouldn't want to count on this as my only knife. I will say, though, there's just a really big difference in how strongly these non-locking knives hold the blade open. Traditional slipjoints -- especially those with a strong pull -- are _way_ less likely to close on you than these modern double-detent varieties. And even with those, that non-locking Slayback I showed easily requires 4x the amount of force to close as this Neuron. So there's a lot of variance in how capable and how safe they are.
Haha, in case you're here to comment about the Fulcrum Keychain adapter, yes, I'm aware now that it does indeed hold the bits still. You have to take the whole thing off your key ring in order to use that functionality, but it will do it. And there's a version that is *just* the clipless bit holder part, without the key ring. I swear that wasn't posted on the site when I previously looked, but it's definitely there now!
Keyring Clipless Bit Holder: veroengineering.com/collections/fulcrum-pocket-tool-options/products/key-ring-bit-holder
Clipless Bit Holder: veroengineering.com/collections/fulcrum-pocket-tool-options/products/fulcrum-clipless-bit-holder
I enjoy all these deep dives man! It honestly makes me scrutinize my knives even further. Great stuff bud!!
Hahah, hopefully it's helped you appreciate some of the virtuous qualities they possess, not just make you notice all their tiny flaws 😝
Love the double detent dissection!
I've been hoping to do a full video all about them for a long while. This will have to do for now.
Sweet! I won a Vero Fulcrum from Lefty the great! Lefty's a damn good dude!
Yeah, Kev does so much to help folks in the community out. That's awesome you got a fulcrum mini! What do you think of it?
The clipless "clip" option (or the keychain clip) for the mini fulcrum fixes all my issues.
Yeah, now that I know there's a clipless version that still works as a driver, that would solve all of the issues for me too. But mostly because I don't care if (or particularly want) a prybar has a clip, ya know?
@@KnifeNerdery Completely agree! I use a pouch for most of my gear anyway so the clip does nothing but slow me down, also kinda think the clipless option looks better personally.
I just cannot do a non-locking knife. I have a slip joint that I have only because it was an interesting design. But it is good information.
Yeah, I find that nonlocking knives (and _especially_ these double-detent kinds that pop closed relatively easily) only really work for basic letter or box opening (i.e., tape). Anything above that -- even just basic cardboard cutting -- and I start feeling unsafe. But that's also why I don't mind it at all on a tiny 1.5" fifth-pocket knife like the little Bestech Tulip in this video -- I'm never going to be doing more than tape cutting with one of those anyway!
@@KnifeNerdery yes, that makes perfect sense!! I like the idea, but I use my knives and don’t want an oh, no moment that requires stitches or I get nerve damage like Neaves Knives.
Folding knives that don’t lock just seem like such a bad idea
Yeah, it's tough, 'cause a *lot* -- I'd argue the majority, for most people -- of basic knife tasks normal folks encounter in their daily lives definitely don't need a locking blade to be done safely. But others certainly do, and if this were the only knife you were carrying when you encountered one of those, you'd be stuck either not being able to do the task or trying to do it unsafely. Joseph himself pitches this Neuron as a secondary knife -- he says he keeps it in his 5th pocket for those simple tasks, and reaches for something bigger and locking if he has more serious work to do. I definitely know folks who carry two knives on them every day, but that's a minority. I definitely don't. The size itself doesn't bother me for the kinds of tasks I do regularly, but as a one-knife person, I wouldn't want to count on this as my only knife.
I will say, though, there's just a really big difference in how strongly these non-locking knives hold the blade open. Traditional slipjoints -- especially those with a strong pull -- are _way_ less likely to close on you than these modern double-detent varieties. And even with those, that non-locking Slayback I showed easily requires 4x the amount of force to close as this Neuron. So there's a lot of variance in how capable and how safe they are.