The Future of British Politics: In Conversation with Simon Heffer

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    In this new interview as a part of the In Conversation events, Tom Clougherty, Executive Director of the Institute of Economic Affairs, sits down with Simon Heffer, the renowned historian, journalist, and political commentator. Heffer, a prominent conservative voice, shares his incisive perspectives on British politics, economics, and society.
    Heffer delves into the struggles of the contemporary Conservative Party, offering a scathing critique of recent leadership and the party's ongoing civil war over Europe. He also explores the challenges facing the country, including an ageing population, pressures on the welfare state, and the need for economic reform and deregulation to spur growth.
    Heffer's insights span a wide range of topics, from the failures of corporatism and state overreach to the importance of incentivising hard work and self-reliance. He advocates for a renewed debate on the role of the state, calling for a transition from a welfare state to a "welfare society" rooted in Victorian values of self-help and mutual aid. This thought-provoking discussion is a must-watch for anyone interested in the future of British politics and economics.
    00:05:32 - The state of the Conservative Party
    00:10:43 - Brexit and the Conservative civil war
    00:33:07 - The role of the civil service and "the Blob"
    00:35:58 - Britain's decline from great power status
    00:44:22 - The need for economic deregulation and incentives
    00:50:09 - Reforming the welfare state and transitioning to a "welfare society"
    00:50:34 - Fixing the public sector pension system
    00:59:42 - Qualities needed in politicians/the next Conservative leader
    01:04:57 - Concerns about the future U.S. presidential election
    01:07:54 - Anecdotes about interacting with political figures
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 354

  • @keithsewell8389
    @keithsewell8389 25 днів тому +35

    Rent levels render many British people unable to adequately provide for themselves.

    • @anthonyferris8912
      @anthonyferris8912 23 дні тому +4

      Same in US, Canada, Australia and many countries across the EU.

    • @chris-eq3sx
      @chris-eq3sx 23 дні тому +11

      And their taxes being used for just about anything else apart from looking after the people of the country while the country falls apart

    • @jdg9999
      @jdg9999 22 дні тому +4

      Yep, but the problem is, neither the mainstream left or right know what to do about it.

    • @brightonduder
      @brightonduder 21 день тому

      The cause is inflation caused by government intervention
      Savvy people borrow money and buy homes
      Homes keep their value and money doesn’t - so after 20 yrs the mortgage value has disappeared
      Don’t blame smart people for navigating government incompetence

    • @futures2247
      @futures2247 21 день тому

      hurting people is just another opportunity for neoliberals but it never hurts the rich

  • @bobstephenson8747
    @bobstephenson8747 20 днів тому +23

    As an ‘average’ salaried worker in my late 50’s, with two teenage kids aspiring to go to uni, mortgage etc I simply don’t have the capacity to make provision to save for care I may potentially need in my dotage. I don’t have a lavish lifestyle, drive a knackered old car, rarely take holidays, pay as much as I can into my pension etc there’s always some month left at the end of the money.
    Until we start taxing the super rich and disincentivise the squirrelling away of billions into off- shore bank accounts we will never make any progress!

    • @uwanttono4012
      @uwanttono4012 19 днів тому +4

      Very well said sir!!

    • @mtrhodesy
      @mtrhodesy 12 днів тому

      Did you choose to work for others of your own free will, or did you take a risk and start a business? What steps did you take to learn skills that translate in you being able to profit directly? Why not tax the risk adverse, or people who sacrifice their shot at wealth over security?
      I’ve spent years learning skills that profit me directly, I’ve then used these profits, bet on myself, and risked losing everything if I got my pricing wrong. This isn’t a dig at you but at that mindset. You’ve just described all the things that mean your decisions would never bring the wealth you wanted.
      That said I’m in agreement about some having billions and hoarding it away in a tax haven etc. How much is enough if you’ve already got a billion, you could live a lavish life and give anything else to improving your community and really do some good. A social capitalist if you will.

  • @laralsofia
    @laralsofia 23 дні тому +31

    I enjoyed this interview. A testimonial of the failure of neoliberalism

    • @importantjohn
      @importantjohn 18 днів тому +2

      I don’t think you were listening. His argument was that left wing social and economic policy had failed

    • @bbbf09
      @bbbf09 18 днів тому

      I got more out of it as a pointed failure of Heffers views and brexit

    • @drew699
      @drew699 17 днів тому +1

      UK, by most metrics has got progressively more socialist over the past 25yrs ie. State spending as % GDP has grown from 34 to 44%. We see the results of a bigger state, all around us now from NHS to economically inactivity.

    • @bbbf09
      @bbbf09 17 днів тому

      @@drew699 When the economy fails - due a right wing non socilaist governement of the last 14 years and its right wing antics (brexit anyone?) then state spending is the only answer to keep eveyrthing from failing apart to the point of societal collapse and civil war. The collapse of the banks and financial system was pure anti-socialist 'adventure' - allowed by a purely ultra capitalist failure to control the banks. You could have let them fail - and if had been only the ordinary people that were hurt they woudl have . But it also would mean the rich elite capitalists would have lost their money as well. Thats not allowed!----- so the banks got saved by £1 TRILLION of tax payers money. It looked like a massive socialist action but in fact was entirely brutally capitalist
      In short --it is the non socilaists right wingers that screw things up and the only options that are available appear socialist to the uninformed but are not.
      The UK in the 1990s was far more socialist in practice and by nature than it is now (e.g. NHS spending was highest ever in those times) - and the economy was stronger for it.

    • @importantjohn
      @importantjohn 17 днів тому

      @@bbbf09 The financial crisis was caused by State regulation that mandated banks pursue sub prime mortgages for 'societal reasons', kept interest rates artificially low (overruling the market) and implemented a lot of other regulation that distorted the effective functioning of the market. Not intervening when the system went broke would of meant the total collapse of the economy, that would of hit the poor more than the rich.

  • @locke230
    @locke230 24 дні тому +32

    He's right about Johnson's cabinet but it's the same old freedom for those who have money and poverty and vulnerability for those who don't .

    • @jnielson1121
      @jnielson1121 18 днів тому

      Exactly the way the neoliberal propaganda machine of the IEA intends it to be. Why don't they tell us who funds them?

  • @greyvoice7949
    @greyvoice7949 23 дні тому +32

    You can sum up the politics of the UK easily:- Democracy does not exist! There you go!

  • @anthonyferris8912
    @anthonyferris8912 23 дні тому +5

    Can't imagine many capable people who've had proper jobs, would ever want to be an MP.

  • @evolassunglasses4673
    @evolassunglasses4673 25 днів тому +30

    Democracy is not the public just voting but more important getting what they want.
    Liberal Democracy is just rule by international finance and the Merchant class now.

    • @importantjohn
      @importantjohn 24 дні тому

      That’s called the tyranny of the majority. Or mob rule

    • @greyvoice7949
      @greyvoice7949 23 дні тому

      Democracy does not exist...

    • @stevefrith9924
      @stevefrith9924 19 днів тому

      quite so, as delivered by mrs Thatcher. Isn't that the point?

    • @importantjohn
      @importantjohn 19 днів тому +2

      You do not get what you want in a democracy, you get what the majority want. Not the same thing, dear.

    • @redwine2664
      @redwine2664 19 днів тому

      @@stevefrith9924 and your alternative is what? Revolution!

  • @sluglife9785
    @sluglife9785 24 дні тому +15

    Had to sell his Mother's house, because her care cost over £100,000 a year... I hope you all heard that number. He is living in a parallel dimension to the vast, vast majority of the country, and has no clue. This is such a warped perspective.

    • @shaunmac6851
      @shaunmac6851 23 дні тому +8

      It was when he pointed out that we all know people who've inherited vast amounts of wealth that's corrupted them..... er, do we??

    • @sluglife9785
      @sluglife9785 23 дні тому +4

      @@shaunmac6851 Indeed. I don't want to appear to be attacking the man because that inevitably takes us nowhere good, but a saner politics requires a more balanced perspective where we try to understand and account for each other. It's a complicated task, which is why simplifying ideologies like Neoliberalism never work.

  • @nigelhard1519
    @nigelhard1519 25 днів тому +30

    Talk about serious dinners

    • @Johnconno
      @Johnconno 23 дні тому +3

      A man of large appetites.

    • @nigelhard1519
      @nigelhard1519 22 дні тому +3

      Pretty impressive analysis.

    • @bradleyholland4881
      @bradleyholland4881 20 днів тому +1

      Keeps several local carveries going singlehanded.

  • @guydreamr
    @guydreamr 19 днів тому +4

    Well, I for one am shocked - shocked! - that the party taking such a turn toward unbridled self-interest would itself be riven by politicians out for...their own self-interests.

  • @phillpotts9047
    @phillpotts9047 24 дні тому +5

    Wow... This is what's missing out of politics today. Will NEVER EVER beat common sense. Bravo 👏👏👏👏

    • @welshskies
      @welshskies 20 днів тому +1

      Ah the common sense myth, anybody with an advanced understanding of macroeconomics knows that the "common sense" of running a corner shop does not work at the macro scale. Just like in physics where everyday life can be explained by Newton but when you want to talk about astronomy you need Einstein.

    • @bbbf09
      @bbbf09 18 днів тому

      Common sense yesterday is the nonsense of later years - e.g. the transatlantic slave trade. Although maybe you still believe that was good old 'common sense' and the woke crowd went mad to believe otherwise. I'll hazard a guess Mt. Heffer 'Enoch Powell is the greatest' probably does believe that.
      Anyway - there is no absolute timeless benchmark of 'common sense'

  • @matthewbell4200
    @matthewbell4200 20 днів тому

    This is superb and one of the best political discussions I’ve come across

  • @lonewanderer3456
    @lonewanderer3456 25 днів тому +19

    Simon Heffer, Douglas Murray and Dr David Starkey should have been key advisors for the Govt.

    • @xtc2v
      @xtc2v 25 днів тому

      Douglas Murray supports the genocide in Gaza

    • @jumblestiltskin1365
      @jumblestiltskin1365 25 днів тому

      Well said, considering the utter mess they've made in 14 years, even the teletubbies might have provided them with better, more coherent advice.

    • @evolassunglasses4673
      @evolassunglasses4673 25 днів тому +3

      All Classical Liberals with no solutions.

    • @richardwhite1120
      @richardwhite1120 22 дні тому

      Should be

    • @rosendo3523
      @rosendo3523 21 день тому

      Three cheeks of the same arse. You must be joking....

  • @christopherfisher8748
    @christopherfisher8748 18 днів тому

    Massively interesting talk and I totally agree with most of his comments

  • @bradleyholland4881
    @bradleyholland4881 20 днів тому +4

    Was it gut instinct that swung Heffer from left to right on the political spectrum?

    • @welshskies
      @welshskies 20 днів тому +2

      He's certainly got the gut for it.

  • @drc4563
    @drc4563 6 днів тому

    Wise guy. Speaks his mind. Like this.

  • @johnvale295
    @johnvale295 24 дні тому +13

    When the Prime Minister and government ministers are hamstrung by obstructive civil servants and, in some cases, the High Court, it is easy to see why few of the issues in the UK are ever solved. The worst part of this is that no political party seems to have an effective strategy to remove these obstacles.

    • @greyvoice7949
      @greyvoice7949 23 дні тому

      No such thing as democracy... Just the illusion of it!

    • @pedalinpete
      @pedalinpete 23 дні тому +2

      So you think that they should be above the law?

    • @gordondavies7773
      @gordondavies7773 23 дні тому +3

      UK should be thankful for the dedication and real patriotism of the civil and public servants over the last 14 years of Tory induced crisis.

    • @johnvale295
      @johnvale295 23 дні тому +1

      @@pedalinpete When a law is not fit for purpose, yes.

    • @johnvale295
      @johnvale295 23 дні тому +8

      @@gordondavies7773 I disagree. Senior civil servants have frustrated the progress of Prime Ministers and parliamentarians who were elected to pursue certain mandates, such as Brexit, and have provided obstacles to any meaningful change. For example, an attempt to stop illegal migrants from making the dangerous Channel crossing in small boats, through a strategy of flying them to Rwanda if they attempt to enter the country illegally, has been blocked at every turn. In the meantime, more attempt the crossing and drown. What's the point in voting for any political party if they cannot deliver on their promises due to red tape?

  • @rossscott7260
    @rossscott7260 18 днів тому +2

    People living paycheck to paycheck can't take risks if the price of failure is starvation. The reason why the rich can succeed is that they can fail again and again.

  • @mikedunn8104
    @mikedunn8104 22 дні тому +11

    Thatcher was a disaster! The policy of privatisation has had catastrophic consequences for every citizen of the U.K. Hayek and Friedman have been thoroughly debunked.

    • @markferguson7563
      @markferguson7563 21 день тому

      (*** A.S. Yes, indeed, Mike, privatisation - which, effectively, is part and parcel of the globalisation bandwagon - has been a disaster. I suggest you get a copy of Ernst Schumacher's, 'Small is Beautiful: Economics as if People Really Matter', which was published in 1972, predicted the looming madness of globalisation. ***)
      *************************************
      Politically, and ideologically I am a full 180 degrees opposite any rendition of a Greens party that may exist, or AOC/Gavin Newsome/Nancy Pelosi etc, etc. However, I am right in the corner of Simon Heffer, with regards to what he said about Donald Trump. Moreover, I am 101 percent empathetic with Simon’s distress of pondering how could it be that, the seemingly only two contenders for the Presidency of the United States are a geriatric imbecile, and a totally deluded narcissist. But what’s even more disturbing to consider for the US, prevails with first-reserve, so to speak, to take the chair in the Oval Office: and that is in the form of that complete moron, Kamala Harris.
      I have taken a very keen interest in history, and domestic and geopolitics from 1972, and over the past 52 years I’ve become increasingly distraught with watching the world sinking into a sociological mire. I live in Australia, and was 18 years of age when a radical political change took place in my country, and that came to pass with the election of the socialistic PM, Gough Whitlam, and the ALP.
      The consequences of the policies, which the Whitlam/Labor government inaugurated during its tumultuous three-year term, is with welfare. The direst outcome of them creating a welfare udder, culminates with there now being three generations of people in Australia (accruing to a total of at least 600,000 people) who have never been net-contributors to the country’s economy. No doubt, this scenario is replicated in Britain, also.
      However, that pales into insignificance with a myriad of other upheavals vexing the globe. Amongst these are the wars in Gaza, and Ukraine; a belligerent China; an emerging India, which has an openly bigoted quasi-theocrat at the helm, who unashamedly castigates Muslims; or with the open-borders agendas of the US, and Britain, that facilitate Third World interlopers to inundate their spheres. But the most disturbing constituent for the planet, prevails with the complete implosion/discombobulation of the US’s political/ sociological foundations.
      Tragically, whoever wins the presidency on that first Tuesday in November will only drag the country further into a dystopian and sociological swamp. Unfortunately, due to the size of its economy, and military power, means that as it sinks into the proverbial dystopian sewer it drags us all down with it.

  • @epluribusu9430
    @epluribusu9430 23 дні тому +8

    "Don't mention the Brexit !!" - Basil Fawlty. Pontificates on everything but not 40 seconds on the mega disaster he foisted on his countrymen.

  • @paulcook7986
    @paulcook7986 15 днів тому +1

    It's not all about Brexit, the UK has been going downhill since Thatcher's time.

  • @adriancurtin6012
    @adriancurtin6012 21 день тому

    Very informative!

  • @andylewis7360
    @andylewis7360 24 дні тому +12

    What Heffer seems oblivious of is not Britain’s lack of work ethic; it’s what’s BEHIND work ethic! There needs to be INCENTIVE to work hard! What incentive IS THERE?!? Young men can’t hope to find a loyal wife or buy a house! They’ll be lucky to have one child, let alone 2.1 - The replacement rate!

    • @markferguson7563
      @markferguson7563 21 день тому

      Politically, and ideologically I am a full 180 degrees opposite any rendition of a Greens party that may exist, or AOC/Gavin Newsome/Nancy Pelosi etc, etc. However, I am right in the corner of Simon Heffer, with regards to what he said about Donald Trump. Moreover, I am 101 percent empathetic with Simon’s distress of pondering how could it be that, the seemingly only two contenders for the Presidency of the United States are a geriatric imbecile, and a totally deluded narcissist. But what’s even more disturbing to consider for the US, prevails with first-reserve, so to speak, to take the chair in the Oval Office: and that is in the form of that complete moron, Kamala Harris.
      I have taken a very keen interest in history, and domestic and geopolitics from 1972, and over the past 52 years I’ve become increasingly distraught with watching the world sinking into a sociological mire. I live in Australia, and was 18 years of age when a radical political change took place in my country, and that came to pass with the election of the socialistic PM, Gough Whitlam, and the ALP.
      The consequences of the policies, which the Whitlam/Labor government inaugurated during its tumultuous three-year term, is with welfare. The direst outcome of them creating a welfare udder, culminates with there now being three generations of people in Australia (accruing to a total of at least 600,000 people) who have never been net-contributors to the country’s economy. No doubt, this scenario is replicated in Britain, also.
      However, that pales into insignificance with a myriad of other upheavals vexing the globe. Amongst these are the wars in Gaza, and Ukraine; a belligerent China; an emerging India, which has an openly bigoted quasi-theocrat at the helm, who unashamedly castigates Muslims; or with the open-borders agendas of the US, and Britain, that facilitate Third World interlopers to inundate their spheres. But the most disturbing constituent for the planet, prevails with the complete implosion/discombobulation of the US’s political/ sociological foundations.
      Tragically, whoever wins the presidency on that first Tuesday in November will only drag the country further into a dystopian and sociological swamp. Unfortunately, due to the size of its economy, and military power, means that as it sinks into the proverbial dystopian sewer it drags us all down with it.

    • @th8257
      @th8257 20 днів тому

      Russian troll

  • @anomadhunter
    @anomadhunter 20 днів тому +6

    This poor chap looks like he’s going to explode.

  • @RogueWJL
    @RogueWJL 24 дні тому +2

    Enthralling and enlightening.
    Hearing those thoughts, views and reflections in the current political and social climate, was akin to being in the desert and finding an oasis

  • @edwardmclaughlin7935
    @edwardmclaughlin7935 25 днів тому +6

    Dinners cannot get more serious than his.

    • @paddyhalligan28
      @paddyhalligan28 22 дні тому +1

      He looks like he’s eaten a lot of them.

  • @Multimine
    @Multimine 15 днів тому

    Anyone know where he got the stat regarding 70% of nhs budget going on payroll, it seems to be a significant pillar of his oppinion on the state of the nhs. From what I can tell, it's more like 45% however.

  • @larslarsen5414
    @larslarsen5414 21 день тому +4

    Like so many highly educated Brits this guy is very likeable and very smart. Only problem is that his sort rarely have any political viable solution to anything:
    "Deregulate" :-) - That word is pretty empty by now
    "culture war" - this is an empty attack on.... well, someone else....

  • @angusdesire
    @angusdesire 24 дні тому +6

    'Arse from their elbow': in North Lanarkshire we say Boris Johnson didn't know if he was going for a shite or a haircut.

    • @harrying882
      @harrying882 21 день тому

      Brilliant

    • @welshskies
      @welshskies 20 днів тому

      Johnson and haircut in the same sentence?

  • @modestproposal9114
    @modestproposal9114 19 днів тому +1

    It's rich the IEA complaining about the state of affairs crafted in their own image

  • @th8257
    @th8257 20 днів тому +1

    Simon Heffer was always a very strange eccentric, and that has only increased with time. He belongs on the lunatic fringe of a past era.

  • @adriancurtin6012
    @adriancurtin6012 21 день тому +1

    The problem is the Home Office .Not the Treasury.

    • @welshskies
      @welshskies 20 днів тому

      Sadly our Civil Service has been so politicised that ministers receive the advice they want to hear not what they should hear. Any Civil Servant who tells his minister that a policy won't work is sacked. The FCO and Treasury warned the government about Brexit and it lead to all the best Civil Servants being replaced.

  • @maryfountain4202
    @maryfountain4202 25 днів тому +7

    I haven't listened to so much common sense for a long time, and agree with everything including the quality of cabinets; saying a lot other than the seriousness of what they're doing.

  • @philippewinston2740
    @philippewinston2740 22 дні тому +1

    How heavy is Mr Heffer ?

  • @bbbf09
    @bbbf09 18 днів тому +2

    Just looking at the physical state of Heffer is somewhat symbolic of Britains decline and of his precious brexit. (Moaning about the working classes as 'slothful' is priceless in that regard)
    You don't even to think too much about his odious views and ill thought out shambolic 'logic' to wonder at what makes people sit there and listen to it. I have no idea why is deemed to be some sort of respected journo or thinker.
    By the way, 'Enoch Powell is the greatest man ever' . Says everything about Heffers inclinations. Powell was criticised back in the 60s by even conservative papers and Edward Heath was so appalled he dismissed him. If you are getting called 'racist' by Conservatives in 1960s - when the Black & White Minstrel show was considered accpetable TV the you can be sure you are racist. Powell was - and by elevating him to the status of 'greatest'
    can only suggest he is also.
    He's right on Johnson. Thats about it. Otherwise a waste of space.

  • @derekwhite2929
    @derekwhite2929 21 день тому

    Still trying to find some benefit from the infected blood stuff coming out myself!

  • @themajesticmagnificent386
    @themajesticmagnificent386 20 днів тому +1

    The U.K is at the mercy of landlords..The majority of the economy is for the benefit of estate agents..Small industries here are again forgotten..The U.K needs to produce and grow as producers of a variety of products and services..Part of the problem is we have forgot or choose to think we’re not good enough or others can and we can’t..This thinking must change..But can only change with new thinking from the top down and incentives in tax ..

  • @paulfr6768
    @paulfr6768 18 днів тому

    Truly bizarre to hear a Brexit supporting admirer of Powell and Thatcher say 'I believe in a compassionate society.'

  • @masoodahmed2041
    @masoodahmed2041 21 день тому +1

    Brexit could have worked but BJ made a complete mess of it, I voted remain as I was hypnotised by economic orthodoxy over radical ideas.

  • @TheGatesOfFire
    @TheGatesOfFire 20 днів тому +11

    Thatcher was a complete disaster. Squander north sea oil and gas, and gave away all national treasures.

    • @welshskies
      @welshskies 20 днів тому

      Thatcher sold off the nation's family silver and gave the money to the City of London.

    • @hodgebodge
      @hodgebodge 20 днів тому

      It wasn't squandered. It was used to facilitate some of the fastest sustained real terms growth we've seen in the postwar era, certainly since 73 and not seen since.

    • @TheGatesOfFire
      @TheGatesOfFire 20 днів тому

      @@hodgebodge it was squandered to buy the next election.

    • @hodgebodge
      @hodgebodge 20 днів тому

      @@TheGatesOfFire it allowed for well over a decade of low taxes and greater wealth for individual citizens.
      What would you rather the money was used for? Please don't say sovereign wealth fund

    • @welshskies
      @welshskies 19 днів тому

      @@hodgebodge Rapid unsustainable growth for some. The capital wealth of the nation was bought up by foreign interests and now we are seeing the consequences.

  • @pauleast2905
    @pauleast2905 17 днів тому +1

    EU and the decline of Germany and other associated countries.

  • @kayedal-haddad9294
    @kayedal-haddad9294 25 днів тому +1

    I am a good old fashioned Gladstonian Liberal!

  • @masoodahmed2041
    @masoodahmed2041 21 день тому

    Also Heffer is a cricket buff which helps.

  • @roygardiner2229
    @roygardiner2229 21 день тому +2

    For me, the most important issue by far is the very damaging high level of immigration. Its impact on culture and identity is more important than on the economy.
    The account of the Civil Servant asserting that "we" would stop Brexit speaks volumes. They are SERVANTS.
    I enjoyed the interview immensely. Mr. Heffer is simply a highly intelligent, interesting and, yes, good, man.
    Mr. Heffer's comments on the comparative amounts of money spent on the NHS and on defence were convincing to me.
    His account of Enoch Powell's encounter on the Tube was so very amusing.

  • @norbarellis
    @norbarellis 21 день тому

    52:30: "The limits on what people could put into their pensions were removed" err... what?!

  • @edwardmclaughlin7935
    @edwardmclaughlin7935 25 днів тому +6

    How can such an established and respected political observer be so out of touch with what is actually taking place on the political scene?

  • @MikeNewland
    @MikeNewland 20 днів тому +1

    Heffer must have a death wish with that stomach. Sorry because his biog of Powell was very good.

  • @opensky6580
    @opensky6580 21 день тому +2

    Having Gladstone as a role model is like in Germany being very fond of Bismark. It feels a little bit outdated in the XXI century

  • @chriswhite1417
    @chriswhite1417 25 днів тому +8

    Is this the IEA: architects of Liz Truss' disastrous mini budget??

    • @daraorourke5798
      @daraorourke5798 24 дні тому +2

      Pretty much.

    • @gordondavies7773
      @gordondavies7773 23 дні тому

      Yes... and they still have not declared who finances their sinister propaganda

  • @uwanttono4012
    @uwanttono4012 19 днів тому

    As a progressive liberal (if that is not oxymoronic), this was a wonderful conversation with a dour though earnest conservative whose views represent those elite who were born with a golden foot in their mouth (or had privileged access to economic opportunities) and have never experienced the vicissitudes of life. Nonetheless, I enjoyed listening to his views on how Britain has evolved over the last forty or fifty years!

    • @bbbf09
      @bbbf09 18 днів тому

      As another progressive liberal myself - I did not enjoy hearing about his priveleged life - nor of description of racist Enoch Powell as 'the greatest of men'. Feel sick after listening to him and need a shower.

    • @uwanttono4012
      @uwanttono4012 18 днів тому

      @@bbbf09 I understand where you are coming from!

  • @salamanders6969
    @salamanders6969 21 день тому +1

    Boris couldn’t organize a piss up in the brewery!

  • @paulfromdevon4707
    @paulfromdevon4707 19 днів тому

    Heffer by name........

  • @MrJohnfoster70
    @MrJohnfoster70 20 днів тому +3

    The 364 economists were proven right. As we take the Tory waters of privatisation.

  • @adriancurtin6012
    @adriancurtin6012 21 день тому

    Policies not the people of course!

  • @christianecoughlan7392
    @christianecoughlan7392 22 дні тому +1

    Tax all dividends and chase heavens for money. ReDistribution is the best way to look after people.

  • @simonbamford8441
    @simonbamford8441 20 днів тому +3

    IEA - shady, Heffer - dodgy! !

  • @madleon81
    @madleon81 21 день тому

    Britain never reformed itself properly after WW2. How did Commonwealth embrace democracy while Britain carried on the feudal system 😢

  • @davidscott5209
    @davidscott5209 22 дні тому

    As long as the urban professional class dominates parliament nothing positive will occur.

  • @philipcurnow7990
    @philipcurnow7990 21 день тому

    Not really a Renaissance man after hearing that list and the Cambridge name check. An insider for sure. But well worth listening to that's for sure.

  • @welshskies
    @welshskies 20 днів тому +1

    Who funds the iea?

  • @michelodonnell7240
    @michelodonnell7240 21 день тому

    Is the British political system obsolete?

  • @stevealba4599
    @stevealba4599 22 дні тому +1

    🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
    00:13 *🗳️ Simon Heffer criticizes Boris Johnson's cabinet, calling it the worst since 1721.*
    01:05 *📚 Simon Heffer is introduced as a historian and a prominent conservative commentator.*
    02:00 *🎓 Simon Heffer recalls his first visit to the Institute of Economic Affairs in 1981.*
    02:53 *📖 Simon Heffer shares a memorable encounter with Friedrich Hayek during his early years.*
    04:05 *💡 Heffer describes his political and economic philosophy as Gladstonian liberalism.*
    05:14 *📰 Heffer discusses the transformation of the Conservative Party from a Tory to a centrist or Gladstonian liberal entity.*
    06:10 *🥀 Heffer criticizes recent Conservative leaders, calling the party factionalized and in shock.*
    07:17 *🔄 Heffer believes the Conservative Party went wrong after Margaret Thatcher's removal and the lack of succession planning.*
    08:24 *📉 Heffer describes the ongoing division in the Conservative Party since 1988 and its impact.*
    10:54 *🇪🇺 Heffer explains how Brexit and the handling of it have caused further division within the Conservative Party.*
    12:47 *🐶 Heffer suggests the Conservative Party needs a significant defeat to allow for rebuilding.*
    13:29 *⏳ Heffer doubts the Conservative Party will resolve its issues within five years, emphasizing the depth of the internal conflict.*
    14:09 *🎭 Heffer criticizes the current government's handling of culture wars and migration issues.*
    16:13 *🛑 Heffer warns of potential challenges within the Labour Party regarding anti-Semitism and economic policies.*
    18:05 *🎯 Heffer calls for a new Conservative leader with a clear vision to effectively oppose Labour and SNP.*
    19:25 *📉 Heffer foresees a potential financial crisis under Labour, stressing the need for a rigorous monetary policy.*
    20:21 *🧓 Heffer emphasizes the importance of addressing the challenges of an aging population and state spending pressures.*
    23:44 *🏡 Simon Heffer discusses the need for families to take more responsibility for elder care rather than relying on state support.*
    25:06 *💸 Heffer argues for lower taxes to encourage personal responsibility and planning for future care.*
    26:16 *💡 Heffer mentions the need to transition from a welfare state to a welfare society, emphasizing self-help and mutual aid.*
    27:37 *🗳️ Heffer reflects on the Conservative government's failure to reform the welfare state since Thatcher's time.*
    28:03 *⚖️ Heffer criticizes institutional resistance to change within the Civil Service, hindering governmental reforms.*
    28:17 *📚 Heffer discusses the "blob" as described by Liz Truss, referring to the entrenched bureaucratic resistance to reform.*
    29:09 *🚫 Heffer harshly critiques Boris Johnson's cabinet, calling it the worst in British history.*
    30:16 *🏛️ Heffer emphasizes the need for competent politicians with real-world experience to effectively govern.*
    32:18 *🗂️ Heffer shares a story about a senior civil servant vowing to stop Brexit, highlighting the power and resistance of the Civil Service.*
    35:18 *🇬🇧 Heffer talks about the need for Britain to recalibrate its expectations and work ethic to stay competitive globally.*
    37:17 *💼 Heffer discusses the importance of encouraging hard work and innovation to maintain economic prosperity.*
    39:05 *🏦 Heffer expresses concern over the potential rise of corporatism and state capitalism, rather than socialism or communism.*
    40:03 *📊 Heffer compares current economic policies to those of the Heath government, warning against excessive state interference.*
    41:40 *⏲️ Heffer warns that the welfare state can eventually lead to a totalitarian state if left unchecked.*
    42:20 *🏋️ Heffer calls for a cultural shift towards personal responsibility and away from dependency on state support.*
    43:43 *📜 Heffer draws historical lessons from the abolition of Corn Laws, advocating for deregulation and incentivizing innovation.*
    46:52 *🗳️ Heffer criticizes Theresa May's attempt to address social care funding during a weak political moment, leading to her "dementia tax" proposal's failure.*
    48:00 *🚫 Heffer emphasizes the need for political strength to implement significant social changes.*
    48:54 *🌟 Heffer hopes the Labour Party will address social care funding if elected, stressing that individuals must contribute to their own care.*
    50:00 *💰 Heffer discusses the need for reform in public sector pensions, advocating for increased private pension contributions.*
    51:53 *🏦 Heffer supports removing limits on pension savings to encourage private provision over state reliance.*
    52:49 *⚠️ Heffer criticizes Boris Johnson's missed opportunity to reform post-Brexit and expresses support for Sunak's attempts to address issues.*
    54:38 *🎩 Heffer comments on Cameron's suitability as Foreign Secretary and highlights the need for robust foreign and defense policies.*
    56:10 *⚔️ Heffer argues for increased defense spending, stressing the importance of balancing welfare and defense priorities.*
    57:52 *🛡️ Heffer criticizes the bureaucratic nature of the NHS and calls for better allocation of resources to essential services.*
    59:14 *🗣️ Heffer advocates for reforming candidate selection to ensure competent individuals with real-world experience enter politics.*
    01:03:12 *🏛️ Heffer emphasizes the need for a traditional governing class with public service values and practical experience.*
    01:04:05 *📊 Heffer reflects on the importance of having experienced advisors in government to avoid mistakes.*
    01:05:01 *🇺🇸 Heffer expresses concern about the 2024 US presidential candidates, predicting potential instability regardless of the outcome.*
    01:07:19 *🌍 Heffer worries about the international implications of the US presidential election and potential civil unrest.*
    01:07:35 *🎤 Heffer shares an anecdote about Margaret Thatcher, highlighting her strong personality and focus on current affairs even after leaving office.*
    01:09:13 *😮 Heffer recounts an interaction with a senior Conservative who surprisingly suggested Jacob Rees-Mogg as the next party leader.*
    01:10:10 *🚇 Simon Heffer recounts a humorous anecdote with Enoch Powell on the London Underground, highlighting Powell's humility and wit.*
    01:11:17 *📚 Heffer praises Enoch Powell's intellectual achievements and influence on conservative economic policy.*
    01:12:39 *💬 Heffer criticizes David Cameron's "Big Society" rhetoric as lacking commitment to reducing the state's role and promoting individual advancement.*
    01:13:59 *🏥 Heffer emphasizes the importance of auditing the NHS to reduce unnecessary roles and cut taxes by shrinking the state payroll.*
    01:14:41 *💷 Heffer recalls watching Kwasi Kwarteng's budget announcement and criticizing the lack of explanation on funding the proposed tax cuts.*
    01:15:08 *📉 Heffer emphasizes that maintaining market confidence requires clear financial planning, unlike the approach taken by Kwarteng and Truss.*
    01:16:12 *📈 Heffer reminisces about Thatcher's approach to tax cuts, highlighting her method of balancing the books and offering choice to the public.*
    01:16:25 *🗳️ Heffer doubts a Labour government will cut the welfare state, urging a conversation about the scope and limits of welfare provision.*
    01:16:53 *🏡 Heffer points out the positive changes since 1945, such as increased homeownership and private pensions, advocating for a focus on self-reliance.*
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  • @MatthewsIanJ
    @MatthewsIanJ 16 днів тому

    I missed something: how does this guy love Thatcher but embrace Brexit?

  • @1526andrews
    @1526andrews 25 днів тому +6

    Re old people, if they have houses and assets then sell them and pay for their care.

    • @thomasalexand
      @thomasalexand 25 днів тому +3

      But they've paid their national insurance and taxes. Why must they be penalised?

    • @paulcassidy8130
      @paulcassidy8130 24 дні тому

      @@thomasalexand An ironic comment, I assume.

    • @importantjohn
      @importantjohn 24 дні тому +1

      And if you have no assets you get your care for free?

    • @thomasalexand
      @thomasalexand 24 дні тому

      @@paulcassidy8130 The nanny state encourages parasites.

    • @thomasalexand
      @thomasalexand 24 дні тому +3

      @importantjohn Yes. Not everyone can earn the national average wage. Some people, for various reasons, can not work. But everyone should have an affordable roof over their head. This country has been broken for many years.

  • @adriancurtin6012
    @adriancurtin6012 21 день тому +7

    Brexit . The self inflicted wounds are the most deepest and most debilitating.We are still a generation away from another vote but maybe with a change of government at least we will start tallking to Europe again.If M.T .wanted us to leave she had 11 years to do it Brexiters ,the enemy is in Moscow not Brussels! !

    • @turbolevo8703
      @turbolevo8703 21 день тому +2

      Wrong.
      And Putin isn’t Hitler either.

  • @welshskies
    @welshskies 20 днів тому +5

    "The so called poor and the so called dispossessed", what an odious man. Look at the size of his gut, Simon Heffer doesn't appear to suffer from lack of access to food, it would take several food banks to keep that tummy tanked up.

  • @andrewwhitehead2002
    @andrewwhitehead2002 20 днів тому +7

    Entitlement, platitudes and a complete lack of awareness.

    • @timhill9189
      @timhill9189 19 днів тому +1

      Well said. Just the old Tory stuff of cutting welfare and anti any social market nonsense. Not an interview, no challenges to absurd claims, just a forum for grandstanding.

  • @des_bloom
    @des_bloom 22 дні тому +17

    The Great British brain-drain, we are loosing all the bright minds & becoming a state of grifters.. In a heartbeat I would migrate to Europe, but that opportunity sailed with Brexit

    • @richardwhite1120
      @richardwhite1120 22 дні тому +2

      Losing

    • @hannahb950
      @hannahb950 20 днів тому

      Terrible - EU takes many non-EU citizens yet, as you say, UK citizens cannot be included and can rarely get the ability to work in the EU. IMO if you want to work in the EU, have a skill the EU needs esp engineering and physical healthcare (higher, medium and lower level) - and don't even attempt with humanities, media, social sciences,
      arts etc as Europe is SO BRILLIANT in those areas... ie experienced people who can mend/fix things properly are far far far less common.

    • @dixiedean1955
      @dixiedean1955 20 днів тому

      You can still settle in some EU countries if retired or are a digital nomad

    • @alexiosi2646
      @alexiosi2646 20 днів тому

      Because the EU member states are doing sooooooo well aren't they... Especially now the US has hobbled the Euro by crippling Germany's economy.

    • @bbbf09
      @bbbf09 18 днів тому

      ...and we are left with the Heffers of the world. Would that he would take a hike elsewhere.

  • @robertjohnstone718
    @robertjohnstone718 21 день тому +1

    One could tell oneself that he’s just mistaken about the practical effects of his economic approach - though he’s notably contemptuous of the idea that the state should help people. That is, until he tells us his hero, the greatest person he’s known, is Enoch Powell. Powell, the toxic racist and imperialist, who made life worse for tens of thousands of Asian and Afro-Caribbean people, who betook himself to Northern Ireland to bolster the retrogressive bigots of the Unionist Party. The economic talk is directed towards the sort of society he wants, and presumably the one he thinks Powell wanted. It’s by no means as cuddly and reasonable as he (and the iea, it seems) would pretend.

  • @julianchase95
    @julianchase95 25 днів тому +5

    Regarding the “culture war” at around 14.00 David Starkey’s recent ncf speech was magnificent. He sees it not really as a culture war but as a political, legal and constitutional war kicked off by Blair’s disastrous reforms. Well worth watching:
    ua-cam.com/video/ClDrkcSfKjk/v-deo.htmlsi=XUU-8PYWjH9mM1dY

    • @jstewart4205
      @jstewart4205 24 дні тому +2

      It's always Blair...

    • @th8257
      @th8257 20 днів тому

      David Starkey is a fruit cake

  • @First_Principals
    @First_Principals 21 день тому

    Solutions need to be solved at the correct level of abstraction.
    Global
    Continent
    Country
    Region/State
    Town/City/Vilage
    Borough
    Neighbourhood
    Community
    Family
    Individuals

  • @m.bowyer5045
    @m.bowyer5045 20 днів тому

    A serious dinner?...i can see heffer certainly likes those🤣

  • @michaelpalmer4387
    @michaelpalmer4387 21 день тому

    Businesses in China are hardly free to carry on how they see fit.

  • @jagchahal1393
    @jagchahal1393 21 день тому

    Look at things in uk, i dispair for our childrens future.

  • @jdg9999
    @jdg9999 22 дні тому +1

    Britain could be great again if there were leaders with real vision for the future. We can either be shitty 2nd world neoliberal social democracy, with a small super wealthy elite based on finance on London, and the rest of the world an open borders third world dumping ground to bring in low wage labour.
    Or we could have a future oriented nationalist government that would combine serious governance (no more feckless deficit spending and waste on current spending rather than capital investment), a realist foreign policy (cooperate with Russia, China and other emerging economies in synergy instead of yapping about "democracy promotion" as part of the American empire, divert defence spending almost entirely to the nacy to focus on protecting our commercial interests and defending the home islands), and a third position economic policy (let the market take care of things where we have a compeititve advantage like finance and luxury goods, while the state finances things we could be great again in with state investment, and which we have natural potential amd synergies for for, like shipbuilding, merchant shipping etc).

    • @markferguson7563
      @markferguson7563 21 день тому

      (*** A.S. So sorry to tell you, JDG, but Britain is way, way past the point of ever being great again. To glaringly ascertain that reality merely requires viewing any of the UA-camr's who travel to cities and towns in the country exposing the hopeless, and hapless state of affairs. ***)
      *********************************************
      Politically, and ideologically I am a full 180 degrees opposite any rendition of a Greens party that may exist, or AOC/Gavin Newsome/Nancy Pelosi etc, etc. However, I am right in the corner of Simon Heffer, with regards to what he said about Donald Trump. Moreover, I am 101 percent empathetic with Simon’s distress of pondering how could it be that, the seemingly only two contenders for the Presidency of the United States are a geriatric imbecile, and a totally deluded narcissist. But what’s even more disturbing to consider for the US, prevails with first-reserve, so to speak, to take the chair in the Oval Office: and that is in the form of that complete moron, Kamala Harris.
      I have taken a very keen interest in history, and domestic and geopolitics from 1972, and over the past 52 years I’ve become increasingly distraught with watching the world sinking into a sociological mire. I live in Australia, and was 18 years of age when a radical political change took place in my country, and that came to pass with the election of the socialistic PM, Gough Whitlam, and the ALP.
      The consequences of the policies, which the Whitlam/Labor government inaugurated during its tumultuous three-year term, is with welfare. The direst outcome of them creating a welfare udder, culminates with there now being three generations of people in Australia (accruing to a total of at least 600,000 people) who have never been net-contributors to the country’s economy. No doubt, this scenario is replicated in Britain, also.
      However, that pales into insignificance with a myriad of other upheavals vexing the globe. Amongst these are the wars in Gaza, and Ukraine; a belligerent China; an emerging India, which has an openly bigoted quasi-theocrat at the helm, who unashamedly castigates Muslims; or with the open-borders agendas of the US, and Britain, that facilitate Third World interlopers to inundate their spheres. But the most disturbing constituent for the planet, prevails with the complete implosion/discombobulation of the US’s political/ sociological foundations.
      Tragically, whoever wins the presidency on that first Tuesday in November will only drag the country further into a dystopian and sociological swamp. Unfortunately, due to the size of its economy, and military power, means that as it sinks into the proverbial dystopian sewer it drags us all down with it.

  • @danielrobertson8774
    @danielrobertson8774 20 днів тому

    For the most part I don't disagree, with the exception of state debts. Sunak has brought the UK down to European levels with an acceptance that debt is OK at 90%+.
    That madness on top of idiocy. At most we can maintain 40% debt. So the Conservatives and SNP need to suffer, as they keen eternally delaying big private sector projects.
    A tunnel under the Thames costs money. A small nuclear reactor generates money.

  • @importedmusic
    @importedmusic 23 дні тому +1

    Keeping a central bank like the BOE makes absolutely sure that Brexit was the right idea.

  • @christianecoughlan7392
    @christianecoughlan7392 22 дні тому +10

    Dérégulation is what cause the 2008 crash! Not a very good precedent…

  • @chrismaxwell1610
    @chrismaxwell1610 21 день тому +3

    What a load of right-wing nonsense, more if we would just be more right-wing from the people who have got everything they wanted for 15 years.

  • @edgeyt1
    @edgeyt1 22 дні тому +1

    This video was brought to you by the tobacco industry and other secret funders.

  • @brightonduder
    @brightonduder 21 день тому

    Proper journalism
    Unfortunately Simon is as common these days as hens teeth

  • @ianstevenson3628
    @ianstevenson3628 20 днів тому

    Tom King stood down in 2001

  • @damianbutterworth2434
    @damianbutterworth2434 16 днів тому

    The EU is turning right wing. Us Brexiteers might join up again if they do.

  • @charlesbruggmann7909
    @charlesbruggmann7909 25 днів тому +9

    A ‘low tax’ economy is a pipe dream as long as the NHS exists. So, when will the Tory party have the guts to stand on a platform of either abolishing it or financing it through private insurance.
    PS: the Armed Forces need an absolute minimum of an extra £10bn pa.

    • @rjw4762
      @rjw4762 24 дні тому

      Well said - when one reads that other comparable nations have lower taxes, the reason is that they do not have the NHS to pay for, or a bloated Social Welfare bill. As for the NHS, if it's so damn brilliant, how come no other country on earth copies the same model of keeping its people healthy ?

    • @simony2801
      @simony2801 21 день тому

      Let's not do that

  • @eriktopolsky8531
    @eriktopolsky8531 21 день тому

    Torries are preparing for war, but they never asked British boters what they want... let them know on 4th of July

  • @akpanekpo6025
    @akpanekpo6025 22 дні тому +2

    This is revisionism at its most disingenuous, and very typical of a hard-right Tory and Brexiteer. First, he fails to acknowledge any connection between the man-made tragedy we experience today (as exemplified by human excrement in our waters) and 40-plus years of Thatcherism, in contrast with Germany which managed to become Europe's economic powerhouse while essentially remaining a socialist economy - complete with trades union bosses in corporate boardrooms until it committed economic suicide by rejecting cheap Russian gas - but I digress).
    He also fails to acknowledge that it was his beloved Brexit (itself a pet Thatcherite project) that produced the literal kakistocracy that he disparages.
    Some day, Thatcherism was going to fulfil its mission, and it has succeeded spectacularly. I just wish its proponents (which include New Labour - not least because it was infamously Thatcher's "greatest achievement") would have the decency to acknowledge the error of their ways.

  • @jnielson1121
    @jnielson1121 18 днів тому +2

    Also: whof funds the IEA and why won't you tell anyone? WHO FUNDS THE IEA?

  • @stephenclarke4891
    @stephenclarke4891 20 днів тому

    this is all done to blame Brexit

  • @Optimistic-101
    @Optimistic-101 23 дні тому +1

    If it was so bad why is the Uk joint best with Canada on growth at the moment out of the G7. The 4th largest exporter at the moment & outpacing the EU?
    Something doesn’t add up.

    • @nedgeson326
      @nedgeson326 23 дні тому +3

      Exports are counted higher due to the weak pound, thanks to Brexit. We’ve actually been 4th highest in the past whilst in the eu too.
      Growth is due to bounce back from being hit hardest by Covid compounded by Brexit.
      Brexit is still damaging exports, small business, farmers, travel, education, arts, science, freedoms, opportunities, basically everything.

    • @Optimistic-101
      @Optimistic-101 23 дні тому

      @@nedgeson326 thanks for that. Another question on farming. Why were most of the big farming country farmers (French & Dutch) rebelling & blockading if the EU deal is so good?

    • @Optimistic-101
      @Optimistic-101 23 дні тому

      @@nedgeson326 just looked & over the last 10 years the pound & the euro have both dropped @ 20% against the dollar why hasn’t the pound dropped more because of brexit?

    • @nedgeson326
      @nedgeson326 21 день тому

      @@Optimistic-101 I don’t know. The eu is not perfect, but Brexit and isolationism is worse.

    • @nedgeson326
      @nedgeson326 21 день тому

      @@Optimistic-101 how has the pound done against the euro? The pound would be stronger against both if it wasn’t for Brexit. Are you going to say that is wrong? Look at the 10% drop on the day of the referendum. It’s not recovered since.
      The dollar is strong at the moment, but the pound wouldn’t be as weak as it is compared to the dollar without Brexit.

  • @platexproductions
    @platexproductions 21 день тому +1

    That is an unfortunate name…

  • @stephen25uk
    @stephen25uk 20 днів тому

    He loses credibility for me when he complains that Johnson´s appalling cabinet was the worst in history. Of course it was! it was deliberate. Johnson and Cummings would not appoint competent people of integrity. They needed to surround themselves with ministers equally as vacuous and immoral as themselves.

  • @peterteagleteagle9958
    @peterteagleteagle9958 22 дні тому +6

    So we haven't got any money to look after pensioners, but we got money for asylum sleekers, that's makes sense

    • @th8257
      @th8257 20 днів тому

      Eh? Pensioners are the only people in the UK with any money

  • @VintageSoloHarmony
    @VintageSoloHarmony 20 днів тому

    Beds Baths & Beyond was a private for profit business that went bankrupt. Not a great title. Is Simon arguing for 100% inheritance tax, or for tax reductions? Confusing. At least he talks about society, which is not supposed to exist, no such thing.

  • @masoodahmed2041
    @masoodahmed2041 21 день тому +1

    Tremendous respect for Mr Heffer I grew up hating the Tories then you turn 45 and end up been one.

    • @welshskies
      @welshskies 20 днів тому

      Ah, that truism is no more apparently. The average age of Tories is increasing rapidly, it may have been 45and up but it is now more like 75 and up.

  • @philipevenden2834
    @philipevenden2834 24 дні тому +2

    Join Reform

    • @Tas17.4
      @Tas17.4 24 дні тому

      😂😂😂😂 Muppet 🤡

  • @susansantapola
    @susansantapola 20 днів тому

    Woulf be interested to know who funds this organisation.

  • @malcolmboyd3503
    @malcolmboyd3503 23 дні тому +4

    Mr. Heffer is brilliant

    • @th8257
      @th8257 20 днів тому

      He's an eccentric crank

  • @charlesvanderhoog7056
    @charlesvanderhoog7056 19 днів тому

    At 10:07 we hear another loony who thinks that Britain is as important and as strong as the EU. It is this kind of conviction (of still living in 1880) that gave us Brexit.

  • @user-zd5fx2oj6s
    @user-zd5fx2oj6s 20 днів тому +1

    These people ARE the problem however i agree withe the fact that most of Boris' party didn't want Brexit and no one at the time was prepared to carry it out properly for the British people who voted for it

    • @th8257
      @th8257 20 днів тому

      There was no "proper" Brexit. None of them had a clue what to do because it is inherently a bad idea. They basically told the nation "cut your legs off. It'll be great!" Then afterwards everyone realised that it really wasn't a good idea at all

  • @robertritchie2860
    @robertritchie2860 19 днів тому +1

    Cutting taxes leads to a poor structural and social environment: health, infrastructure. UK has become a crappy place to live. As long as this is continuously championed the country will never raise itself.

    • @davidl9771
      @davidl9771 17 днів тому

      Taxes have gone up and up and up and up. yet everything has gone to shit regardless.