This Is Everything I Love & Hate About the New Rivian R1S!
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This car shifts me from considering model x for my next car. Wife drives mod y, but she likes this one.
I'm impressed! If I had the money, I'd order one. I'll be holding onto my Outback though. Proven reliable and for me, affordable.
It'll be interesting to see LONG term how all those gadgets hold up and how the range holds up. I love the look of it and of course the power but its window shopping for me, I'd never be able to afford it.
Exactly... really cool tech... LOTs of stuff to break and well the thought of a car maker getting that amount of software bug free... yea... I don't think so.
Probably the same amount as the same parts in an ICE car.
me too reverand.
I hear ya. It will be interesting to see how many of these features will stick around and which ones will be dropped when Rivian comes out with their more affordable R2 models.
Quick check in. Two and half years in, all these features are still working flawlessly on mine. I have 37,111 on “El Jefe” (that’s what I named it). Of course I still have a full manufacturer warranty and will have a drive train warranty until 175,000 miles (which includes the battery)
I have a Landcruiser which is my favorite car of all time. The R1S is essentially an electrical Landcruiser. Love the split tailgate- more SUVs need this approach. I was able to drive the R1S last week. Super impressive- fit and finish better than Tesla. Nice to have this option out there
I also have a Landcruiser and not sure where the similarities are aside from cruising range which is not great for either. Toyota is typically 10 years behind in tech and this vehicle is 10 years in the future. Unless you mean the overland modded cruisers that have built-in compressors, AC outlets installed, etc. Even the LX with air suspension doesn't do anything close to the drive modes this does.
Nothing can be compared to a land cruiser.
That flashlight uses 1 of the same 2170 cells that make up the Rivian battery pack. The battery pack contains 7,776 of the 2170 type cells so they wanted to use one more to make 7,777 cells in total so came up with the flashlight.
Also, the lock/unlock chirp was an actual recording of a bluebird here in Yellowstone National Park. Nice touch and much less noise pollution compared to how many vehicles use the loud horn to signal. This chirp, or a separate electronic sound, is much better than car horns going off all around you in a parking lot, parking garage, trailhead or campground.
From what I have seen online, the flashlight actually has an 18650 in a holder. Maybe they intended to use a 2170 but in the end went with the smaller battery.
...or people could just turn off all of the noisy nonsense that cars make. Including any bird chirping baloney.
@@GuyWithTheDogs That is what we do with all our vehicles (turn off the unneeded audio alert for locking/unlocking doors with fob), but most do not so I'm always VERY thankful when manufacturers use an audio alert that is less intrusive (like the Rivian chirp or some vehicles fairly quiet beep) rather than having the car horn sound as the alert.
Good review. I like how Andre makes a clear line about his preferences versus how the R1S actual performs.
I really like the R1S. If I had that kind of money, I'd be ordering one for myself. I like their dark green color.
The person who designed the front of the Rivians was definitely hoping for an appearance/role in the next Cars movie.
Looks like the "Have a nice day!" smiley face. The vertical oval headlights are kind of goofy looking.
Or a Double Edsel look?
It is incredibly ugly.
@@Digikidthevoiceofreason most people don’t agree with you
Personally I like it 🤷🏽♂️
Glad it’s a little different than the traditional car makers
Saw one driving in my town last week. Rivian has nailed it. I want one!!
The loud air compressor is something that needs fixed on this specific demo unit. Kyle Connor noticed it too when he had this vehicle right before TFL, but mine doesn't have that problem and other people have said the same thing.
Neat features, thanks for the walk around.
It’s a wonderful looking car with a lot of cool gadgets! If I needed 3 rows of seating, and was willing to shell out those big bucks, it’d definitely be on my list. I’m hoping a smaller, compact SUV won’t be too far in the future!
Super cool! I think they look great.
Can you compare this to the Hummer and Bronco offroad? It would be really interesting to see all their respective strengths and weaknesses.
I second this request. Thatd be really interesting to see.
I’ve been waiting for this video, love it
Love it, just hate it he price
Love these cars and really want them in Australia!
Live in Normal and see these everyday on the road and in my neighbors garages. Great business for our community. Been watching TFL for years and love the EV reviews.
So far, a lot of the don't-likes seem to be shared by Tesla and others: no startup button, most controls in software, etc. I wasn't a fan of the third-row seat as it would be useless in my case. But, I'm still patiently waiting as my preorder gathers dust. 😅
Love it, just wish it was the original price before the big increase :( Glovebox would be nice.
Nice vid Andre’
I love this, it's just a shame that most people will never be able to afford one. I'm looking forward to when they come out with functional EV SUVs for us poors.
The Chevy Bolt is affordable.
@@treads2595 just looked it up, fair enough, that's definitely on the more affordable end of things. It's frustrating that vehicles have gotten so expensive though, that's still 30k-ish for what's essentially a little commuter vehicle (and for many Americans, 30k is nowhere near affordable. I know people that never spend more than 10k on a vehicle). I like something like the Rivian SUV that pretty much checks off all the boxes rather than just being a commuter.
It's the battery that makes up the bulk of the cost.
You learn something new every day.
I didn't know you could blow up a kayak.
I thought they all had a rigid bodies.
Haha yes bro, I have one inflatable 😂 not all of them are rigids
Can't wait to get one.
Be interesting to see the R1S and an R1T drag race
This is the same press car that @outofspec got. I have ridden in it. The compressor issues are vehicle specific to this particular press car. I also own an R1S and my compressor is quiet and only runs periodyfor very short amounts of time like 30-60 seconds maximum.
The panoramic sunroof having no retractable cover doesn't bother you??
@@chrisginoc nope. I drove from Denver to the bay area and back a few weeks ago. The top is dark enough that I often forgot about the glass being there - even in the hit desert. As a Coloradan my main issue with the glass is heat loss in the winter and I will buy an aftermarket cover (or have a bespoke one made).
If Rivian could make a small SUV the size of a Bronco Sport, I would be soooo happy
They are making a different line of vehicles that are going to be more affordable. It’s called the R2 line. Not sure which type of vehicles they will make but I would guess like a 5 seater small suv to be one of them.
I’d love to see the R1S on the off road course or the trails. It’d be cool to see it paired with the TRD 4Runner. I’ve always sort of viewed it as an EV 4Runner at 2x the price.
Out of spec overlanding channel did an off-road hill climb test with the R1T and R1S.
Have you checked the price of the TRD 4 runner? This is not 2x the price. I’ve seen the new TRD Pro priced as much as $75k locally.
It's funny you say that because I always call the RT1 the electric Tacoma. These aren't work trucks they are more off&road rigs. At least I my eyes that's the niche they fill.
That camp mode is gonna come in really handy while wasting your life at a charger
1:25 - It's strange looking at an empty frunk. My "underfloor" area is *FULL* of "truck stuff" - bed cargo net, ratchet-straps, bungees, hitches, hitch pins, plug adapters... My cargo net is full of other stuff - flares, small tool kit, and a few more bungees.
I love electric vehicles they are the new hot rods but some features don’t need to be electric like adjusting the steering wheel or close the the back door yes it’s nice but unnecessary.
Maybe their would be more range without them TFL EV that could be a video?
I remember almost putting down a deposit when it was 67k but wasn’t sure if these things were going to make it out of the covid era.. Now 100k? Nooopppeeee
Your price shouldn't change, should still be preorder cost.
@@Matt-fb5xe I didn’t at the time because I wasn’t confident that they would see the light of day. Definitely should have. Early preorders are a selling them for 100k :
These pop-out door handles are missing a massive, simple feature: a hook. Just a small hook on the back for you to be able to get a real grip would make a huge difference in feel. Biggest difference it would make, though, is it would help kids open their rear doors. They need the help with leverage on a door that is too high for them to get a good pull.
Love this but wonder how those handles and the charging port will work in the Canadian north? Anyone have experience with other similar setups in deep freeze?
Not just the Canadian North, imagine the fun of dealing with those in a typical North Carolina ice storm.
They handle extreme cold extremely poorly, like every other EV with these dumbass gimmicky door handles and charge ports. I'll be amazed if they still work correctly in a few years without several repairs
@@1guyin10 I hear you but way up in the boonies, where it could be 100+ miles to a charger, I've seen Audis and VWs and others where you had to chip the ice away and then pry the handle with a screwdriver.
I think the heat from preconditioning will warm the handles. However, I’m not sure about the charge port.
Not sure about the rivian. But the Tesla model 3 charge port door is heated and doesn’t freeze shut. The model 3 has a similar door handle to the rivian (but is manual, doesn’t self present like the Rivian). Those can freeze, but the door can be opened from the app on the phone in those conditions. As long as the door itself isn’t frozen shut (happens on all cars in cold climates likes ours), the app will pop open the driver door regardless if the handle is frozen. I don’t know if Rivian has something like this, I can only speak to the Model 3.
Rally and Drift but no Snow? Starting in November my Disco5 is in snow mode until the end of March - it works really well!
I talked to 3 R1S owners in Seattle area. Everyone received a single pair of tiedowns with their R1S instead of two here. Just to call that out.
Yeah, I also only got 2. Turns out that they were only supposed to get 2. They corrected this at the line once they found out they were putting extra ones in the early releases.
Overall I like the truck, I think it would be a good switch from my 4runner (which I absolutely love) I just wish there was a somewhat affordable option, as most of is are priced out of an EV with this much utility.
I'm also not a big fan of having to use the screen for even very basic controls like climate and mirrors, but I could probably adjust since so many seem to be going in that direction
Agree. I like my 4Runner a lot, but I'm looking to the future and have no idea what to replace it with. Something tells me I'm going to be driving this thing for another 10 years, because I can't afford any of these new EVs. And I'm sure the next gen 4Runner, while hopefully a hybrid, is also going to be prohibitively expensive.
@Trail Runnah my sentiment exactly.
I wonder how those light signatures will work in wetter snow. Since they are set back and LEDs dont provide a lot of heat, do they have a heating element in them to defrost snow that might build up in them?
they dont, they just get smothered.
In the forums, several have already experienced headlights getting dangerously covered while driving when it's snowing. This isn't unique to Rivians. LED lights are great for brightness, but not great while snowing as the headlights tend to get covered with snow and your light output decreases quickly. Needs to be some solution implemented because getting out and manually wiping them off every 5 or 10 minutes isn't reasonable or safe.
Yeah, that’s why I’m not a fan of LED in the winter. Wish they put coils in them or something like the defrost
Pretty easy solution, just ceramic coat them. Plenty of DIY options on Amazon and it would make water/snow/ice slide right off at driving speed.
Would have been cool if they had a rubberized option to replace all that carpet in the back. The carpet looks cheap to me and thin and already looking worn down!
If I were going to choose an EV out of everything avaliable it would be this one because we have 3 car seats lol but with a smaller budget I would choose the IONIQ 5.
you should be able to lower the grill like a tailgate, then it would be even better than the lightening's frunk.
i'm not an ev guy. Especially when it comes to trucks. There's no doubt that the Rivian has tons of cool tech features and gobs of power and torque. But so far everything i am seeing, particularly with towing, your range is drastically shortened. To me, they are all just around town vehicles, even if it has off road capability. I would hate to be 20 plus miles away from town, go off roading for the day, camp that night, and then try to make it back to town to re-charge. Time will tell on the advancements of the battery life, range, and charging options.
What is it with every lawn guy and plumber thinking they are the main character? No, this isnt great for hailing the mower you need to do my lawn. This car isn’t for you. The people who afford these can hire people to tow or move their stuff.
@@TheRidersChoice the point of EVs is to be ICE replacements. not just for the 1 %
@@ysesq Not right now. They are just supposed to replace commuters which is most people, who statistically like to commute in a truck. Hence a F150 EV. Want to tow lawn stuff all day? It’s not for you. The average hairdresser in a king ranch? This is a great replacement for them
In almost all eCars, they have gone away from traditional push buttons to perform operations in the vehicle. It seems cumbersome to have to navigate into a computer for everything you want to adjust in your car. I like a push button for simple tasks, on/off AC. Mirror Controls. Steering wheel adjustments. Radio. Having to navigate a computer for a simple functions takes you away from driving, even in more automated driving vehicles. Doesn't make sense.
830 hp? Why hasn't Paul taken this to the road course? Let's get a time !!
Need 22,s for that
Do all those displays have a dark mode? Is it blinding at night?
Love this suv
Best tailgate design on any SUV!
The few little things you don’t like seem so insignificant: it doesn’t have a start button - dude it’s an electric car! You can actually hear the compressor - really bro? Why not just say, “I hate to admit it, but this is one cool EV.”
Anybody else here the whisper “step in with me?” Lol kinda funny.
Love the car . Not the price. Quality will eventually improve. Hard to beat Toyota for now. Start up vs 80 Y/O company. You did a good job not pissing off Rivian who lent you the truck. 😆
Quality won't improve, but cost to Rivian will meaning cheaper materials. Remember manufacturers don't care about us, they care about profits
I love this and the R1T, but for me to be a buyer I would need a 2 motor version that skips all the fancy features and has a starting price well below $50k. For the price of either of the rivian twins you could have a fully loaded Rubicon and a hybrid camry to commute with and still have enough money left over to do a few mods to the jeep.
Given that a bare-bones fleet spec Ram 1500 single cab will set you back almost 40k, that's not going to happen for anywhere near 50k.
Agreed. I would like a much more basic version.
Just looking over on the Jeep site and a 4 door Rubicon starts at 48k to get one we'll optioned your closer to 60 now maxed out better be prepped for 70+. And if you want to add the 4xe motor then you are at the price of a large pack 2 motor rivian. I see these pricing comments all the time but the truth is everything has gotten substantially more expensive.
They make all their profit in these pointless luxury features. A stripped down model wouldn't net them any margin. They also bundle all the features so if there is one thing you like you have to pay for a bunch of other stuff. I would rather have modular design where you just buy the features you want separately and put them in if you want. Audio systems, big screens and that dumb flashlight could all be sold separately.
Why you want to spend in 2 vehicle if this one will do the same… it can go places like a jeep and you can save money driving like a camry hybrid
Chandon the angle of vents through software is an overkill. The same with changing mirrors.
Software can improve the experience, but not for things that already work very well
I wish Rivian made a affordable version of this car I would to have one for around 50-60k
My understanding for the second factory they are building in Georgia is that they will offer a small more affordable off-roader. My guess, is it will be a Wrangler competitor.
Crazy world we live in where 50 to 60K is considered affordable. It's funny, I was just thinking how much less money is worth these days, yet most of us are still getting paid the same.
Remember Andre, the engineers designing these NEW vehicles don't have us in mind. The idea of re-inventing the wheel as it were, is for the youth that is to follow us. All controls in 1 central location will be expected and appreciated and even easy to conform to by those that follow in our footsteps. But I agree with you, decades of driving standard control locations being removed is disconcerting. What we have for memory control on automatic now has to be re-wired to try and adapt to a whole new way of inputing adjustments. However, in theory, these things should be set before one is driving and thus does not require us to just reach over and make changes on the fly.
Wrong wrong and wrong. It takes couple of days to adjust. Stop being stock in the past.
@@WhiteWi Stuck
Would love one to replace my 2020 Defender BUT hate it because it isn’t likely to come to the Uk and if it does in present form it’s way too big for UK roads and for sure wouldn’t fit on the off-road tracks I drive as it looks too wide.
They do plan to bring a smaller version for the European market. Not sure if their partnership with Mercedes will produce these of if that is just for their sprinter/work vans, but the plans are in the works.
Where is the equivalent SUV that cost $40K instead of $100K? Leave all the cool but unnecessary features out of the vehicle and it will cost a lot less. I don’t need cameras, sensors, actuators, motors to move my door handles, vents, seats, frunk and hatch. I don’t need autonomous driving at any level, I want to drive. I don’t need or generally want a touch screen blasting light at me so I can adjust a million things that are mostly unnecessary and not have buttons, knobs or sliders for the things I do want to adjust fairly often. Give me the functionality of a 1970s base bronco or blazer in a modern electric platform and some air bags and I’m good.
love the rivian, but it's so expensive. Also just rented a tesla and realize I really hate how almost everything is done on the touch screen for these electric cars. Can be very tedious if you want to adjust something on the fly, and is honestly kind of overwhelming trying to find different settings for everything. Like changing the a/c and heat you have to find and switch to that screen, than a different screen for mirrors, and a different screen for the radio. It involves a lot of looking at the screen and not the road vs the traditional way of doing a lot of these things where you don't really have to put much focus on those things. Also something a lot of ppl might not care about but locking the car door when you get inside, that's another screen as far as I could tell. Not ideal if you're a cautious person or find yourself in a situation where you need to keep someone else out
Can someone give the tldr version? What were the things the dude didn't like?
I wonder how long those electric doors, frunk, etc., will last after two harsh winters.
Won't even make it half way through a real harsh winter
Can you comment on the driving? People have complained of the cabin noise and that the acceleration is jerky compared to other EVs
I think it is great how well a new startup has done with a really new vehicle. My only concern is really for all new vehicles. What will be working on these in 7 years. Or will they all be heading to the crusher since there is no one able to afford fixing all the once cool tech that no longer works. As a brand new under warranty, looks amazing!!!!!
Factory warranty is 8 years/175,000 miles for the drivetrain, which includes the batteries BTW. It has a 5 year/60,000 mile warranty on everything else and lifetime warranty against rust. So that’s pretty cool.
Is the Frame steel or Is it made out of aluminum the body plastic?
I don't like how the rear cargo area doesn't have a flat floor. That kills it for me. Can't easily slide things in, and if you want to sleep back there, it's an issue. They need an option to delete the third row and have the floor be flat with the second row seats folded.
idk why but his voice is soothing
I hope the R2 has a removable top. 🤞
Rivian Blue was developed far before the R1s or the Factory. Rivian Blue is the same color of the Small Blue Car project Rivian made in 2011 and that color was carried over to honor the Sports car concept poetically.
This is much better as an SUV than a pickup truck. As a truck there are many shortcomings. As an SUV, this is fantastic.
What are the shortcomings since the vast majority of us don’t have one?
Nice
Hi TFLCAR
Should have addressed the three row seating. Almost no attention was paid to space and comfort of the back seats. Another reviewer mentioned not having powered third row fold down, and how odd and inconvenient it was for a 100k truck. We need more in-depth and comparative reviews for this and the r1t. The R1t is longer and has that gear tunnel with potential camp kitchen. Is the any world from rivian about cool R1s specific add ons?
I wish the frunk would open with the lightbar... the ledge is massive.. and IF I want to keep my charging cables there because they are wet and dirty.. I don't want to 'hug' the wet and dirty front grill
Haven’t seen David in a while. Where is the man , myth and legend ?
I like the SUV, wish they made an actual truck instead of a lifestyle vehicle.
I want one
830 hp. Do I have to buy a membership/subscription for that?
Good static review! Thanks for making the effort. Your other videos speak more to the driving performance and dynamics of the vehicle. There clearly is a lot to like. Question is, at the current price, whether the features and functions are worth it. Depends a lot on your resources, resource allocation strategy, and the alternatives. Depends on what you are comparing this vehicle to. How important is having a BEV for a daily driver? How important is the 7-passenger capability? How important is off-road performance? How important is on-road performance? And it depends on your willingness to deal with an automotive startup. As another commenter mentions, Munro & Associates have been doing teardown analysis videos on the R1T (the truck version of the SUV) for several months now, which give some insight into build quality and possible reliability. So there's a lot of information available. One feature/function of the vehicle is its wading depth. I live in an area that has significant flood risk. So this feature--combined with a few others--make the vehicle attractive. But this car certainly won't be for everyone.
wish they had a phev model
so cool
I don't like having the only option for traditional controls like mirrors to be in the infotainment. One of the main tenants of UI/UX is that things should work as most people would expect it to. My friend has a Ford Flex and the heated seats are only on screen. This forces the driver to take his eyes off the road to adjust them. For a passenger who is unfamiliar with Ford Sync you are forced to ask the driver. Ridiculous!
I wouldn't consider a vehicle with no switches; having everything on a touch screen helps only the manufacturer. Also, it looks like a trolleybus.
All these motorized parts for what? When the batteries decide to shit out there's no way to get into these battery sleds
I hate the price lol
I want one so bad
I can't imagine buying a $100K vehicle from a company that is going to probably be out of business in a year or two.
We are down 1 year. Still going.
Hate the fact that it has a removable speaker b/c it will entertain the owner but annoy the whole neighbourhood.
Technically speaking, Level 3 charging doesn't exit.
It's actually DC Level 2 - SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) Standard J1772 charging.
According to Professor John Kelly, Weber State University Automotive Technology.
Level 1 is AC 120v 60hz; Level 2 is AC 208/240v 60hz; Level 3 is DC fast charging.
Who is Professor John Kelly?
I like everything but the headlights and the price
You couldn’t get over it doesn’t have the ‘power button’ even when you know it’s not necessary in EVs?
Rally,, Rock, Crawl, Soft Sand.... ok great and all.... but these place require driving long distances into the wild. Where would you recharge this car to get back home?
Natural progression from a 4runner, I love it!
I think most people don't need all the capabilities this SUV has. And they are paying extra for it.
I do not like that there are no E outlets in the back. I'd like to see a bank of 4 outlets. I want to cook using them. A toaster oven and an electric skillet, and I could whip out a meal while camping
Like the color and the Rivian..just not worth the price in my opinion..would rather get a new truck or off road suv like Bronco or 4Runner.
Sure hope that frunk locks shut when it closes...
Does it have a heat pump?
Nope. Maybe in the future.
Sharp looking vehicle but I HATE that there are absolutely no knobs to adjust anything.....multiple screen touches to adjust the air vents, Seriously?? Develop a sport version without all of the extra tech (for the sake of adding tech), give me knobs to adjust climate, radio, mirrors, cut the price by at least 25% and i would consider purchasing one.
I don’t like how you unlock it and it’s on. Sometimes if it’s bad weather I’ll have my son sit in the front and “drive” while I buckle in my daughter. Just to get him out of the rain and I feel like doing that could be a really big safety hazard
Andre - do the screens have nightmode? My preference is dark background for all computer/phone/screen things. much easier on the eyes.
I have an R1T. They do
How deep in the water can the rivian go to launch a boat?
Three feet.
Too much reliance on needing to use the screens to operate simple things like mirrors or vents imo. Who's asking for features like that? Overall seems like it makes more sense as a SUV than it does a pickup if I were looking for one.
Just saw an article that Rivian is burning over $200K per vehicle built (and selling them for under 100K). They've got some serious economic issues to overcome.
I’ve heard this from people that I know that work there. I heard close to 250k per unit. I hope they get it figured out at some point especially since they’re local to me ,and I want them to succeed, but that’s a pretty big hill to climb
Not true.
@@justbecause9645 not saying it’s gospel but I’ve heard it separately from several people who don’t even know each other
@@justbecause9645 I hope it’s not true also
It's misleading to say the charging speed is 200kW because the speed follows a decaying curve