Ive been battling these for years. We have had a drought which has made it challenging to keep humidity high and they have decimated our veggies and ornamentals. This is one of the only genuinely helpful videos out there! They always seem to come back but controlling a small population is so much easier. For those wondering, don't bother with the homemade vinegar or chilli sprays, they did nothing for me other than strip the natural oils from the plants making them more vulnerable.
I'm having similar drought issues. They are wreking the plants, especially the fruit and I don't quite know what to do, especially since they're outdoor plants.
I find that if you are going to invest your time spraying things like the underside of the leaf, you might as well just use soapy water and a sponge. Takes care of the majority of the mites especially those under the webbings. You can even customize the size of the sponges by cutting them up or use a very soft bristle toothbrush. Plus there is zero risk of the mites developing resistance as you are killing them via physical action instead. This is awesome for the start of the infestation and should prevent most infestations from getting out of control. You obviously need to regularly scout by looking closely at your crops at least weekly, which you should be doing anyway. Thankfully spider mites are so easy to spot.
Something that worked for me (at least on a lemon tree) - I set it outside. My hypothesis was that the army mites in nature would rally, and save my little tree. So I put it outside. And it worked. Brought the tree inside for winter, and it did fine. No sign of spider mites.
After having a massive outbreak in my house, just found out these suckers also survive in aquatic surface plants. Yep. Had to take all the plants off my sunroom, only to find out that they still managed to call dibs on a tiny aquarium with some surface plants (they managed to create small webs between the water surface and the aquarium walls. Tiny nasty little creatures.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm it really shocked me too. That whole room now has no plants or aquariums and will be refurbished shortly. Sadly, I still have the feeling that they will manage to survive and infest anything I add there. Thanks for the video!
Spider mites killed my rose plant. I used Eight spray to kill spider mites. It helped. But then spider mites were on new grows and then suddenly all leaves fell off. Thank you for your video.
You are amazing, this is such a comprehensive breakdown of the whole spectrum of solutions! Exactly what I was looking for!! I recently saw that my baby basil n luffa and money plants have erupted with spider mites and I was so frantic and upset! But now that I know all this I’m confident of what to do next :) thank you so much!! You’ve helped me a lot hehe
Ladybugs easy quick and guarantee death to mites for indoor use. Amazon has them year round and they're cheap . These cute insect will devour up to 100 mites a day each.
Hi it is much better to try to find local bugs... If you can find a place in your area that sells bugs. This is better. Ordering bugs from a random place, this can destroy the bugs that are indigenous to your area. I mean you can buy ladybugs online and they can go escape and make sick the ladybugs that are already living in your area. So before buying cheap bugs random online, search locally. please.
I had a problem with my plans I did not know what was the matter it just kept getting worse until I seen your video Thanks so much so much appreciate it now I know .
bayer 3 in 1 is probably the best thing on the market for mites. It's an actual true mitecide. From what I've read pyretherium or however you spell it isn't even completely effective mites are extremely resistant to even pesticides. I know bayer 3 in 1 is the best at least it was a few years ago maybe something better is out now because in the salt water reef hobby we have a very annoying pest that is a salt water mite that resists all coral chemical dips. Bayer 3 in 1 is what is used to dip corals to truly kill off all pests. Bayer 3 in 1 completely solves the issue in one spray but it is a chemical. I also use it for my house plants. Every 6 months I spray everything outside and after an hour I rinse off my houseplants to get rid of any residue since it should have killed everything by then and also soaked into the plants good enough as a systemic. Thought I should share since mites really are a nightmare to get rid of. I wish there was something I could just spray my plants inside and not have to wash off and was natural safe effective but have never heard of such a thing. There are plants that react badly to neem oil.
It seems odd to me that you didn't mention abamectin. It seems odd because the only place I could obtain it was from a rose grower in the USA. It's a natural product, made from fermented fungus, and is harmless to humans. It's actually used internally in medicine. The bottle I had contained 8 ounces, and yes it was expensive. The best things usually are. My bottle lasted over 10 years and was still effective (even though I eventually upped the dose to 4X). Plants are not affected by it as they are by soaps and oils. With all the problems with mites so many growers have, it puzzles me that the BEST solution is the one nobody mentions. I want the cure, not the treatment ;) The brand name is Avid. A bottle can be shared to reduce expense. Single application can be effective, because it has residual translaminar properties. EDIT: It does have some toxicity for a very small percentage of humans, and dogs are sensitive to it. It's something that is rarely used, so exposure to it is likely to be very minimal.
I'm familiar with Avid from my day job in horticulture. Toxicity is a concern for me (see the label: www.syngenta.ca/pdf/Labels/AVID_1.9_EC_24485_en_pamphlet.pdf ) There's also an issue of pesticide resistance, which is hastened if you don't rotate with other chemicals from a different class.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm , I get your point, and it's up to individual choice, I guess. I found that Avid worked so well, there was no need to try anything else, so I never had to employ IPM. Also, it wasn't roses I used it on :)
Thank you so much Jason for a lovlely very helpful video and information i did spray my rose tree and Wow it has a flower and a. bud which is growing beautifully
Hi Jason, I have an leave disease going through my roses. Top of the leaves look like its been hit by spider mites, but no damage on the under side, no webbing either. Been hot and dry here. Gonna spray insecticidal soap every few days, hopefully that works.
If an outdoor container plant is severely infested and you want to dispose of the plant, can you reuse the soil in the container? I have a 20 gallon container with quality soil in it and my cucumber plant was destroyed by the spider mites.
Very informative video. One question though, are any substance that you recommend can damage the plant if it enter their water source? I'm currently planting water spinach hydroponically and I'm not confident in my ability to prevent contamination
This was informative! We just realized spider mites were what was on our burning bushes. We sprayed them w insecticidal soap but the leaves r turning colors and falling off. Is the plant dead or will it come back next year if we keep up w spraying?
Hard to say from just the dropping of leaves (which can happen in response to stress or a phytotoxic reaction to the spray. If you scrape the bark on the stem and the underlying wood is still green, there's still hope.
I find mulching plants causes the spider mites to climb onto the sides of the pot or container to stay dry and I can periodically wipe them off with a cloth soaked in strong homemade distilled alcohol.
I don't do indoor plants largely d/t spider mites. I agree the predators will come. I learned this from "Living Web". We're getting our roses ready to go into winter. I am going to plant some radish around mine. Radish pulls up nutrient and it winter kills.
I think I had them all on my mexican petunias. Except one that sprouted from my soil that was made by burning leaves, sticks etc. And the ash/dirt pile was in the open with sun or semi sun conditions. Air circulation and I never or rarely watered it
Thank you very much for this video. I have lots of expensive indoor plants and Spider Mites are my worst nightmare. I'm located in France (semi-continental, almost continental climate) what beneficial predator would you recommend ? Phytoseiulus persimilis / neoseiulus fallacis or macrolophus pygmaeus ? I've tried lacewings, but it was not so great. (I have mostly aroïds and euphorbia, so almost no flowers...)
Thank you for this comprehensive video. I really appreciate it. I would like to order plants for next year, but spider mites, grubs, crickets, grasshoppers, and aphids together have killed so many things in the last two years. I had to reseed the lawn, and replace several plants. I still haven't replaced several more, and more plants are dying. I feel like this coming year, I should just focus on biological controls. Do you think a year will be enough to get the situation under control?
I like your focus on biological controls, but let me suggest that it's not an either/or situation. Establishing some specific families and genera of plants will help support your efforts with predators and parasitoids. Think early blooming perennials and annuals from the mustard family (aubrieta, iberis, alyssum, lobularia) to get your predators a head-start, or small flowered members of the carrot family (ammi, fennel, astrantia, eryngium) to support hoverflies and others. One year may help a lot, but I don't think there's an actual finish line. More biodiversity will generally reduce outbreaks, but some pests may still "break through"
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you so much. I will look to seed my yard with them, and a few other natives that I just happen to like. Some take a couple of years to germinate anyway, so that will give me time. So it's a good idea not to plant bulbs or other perennial ornamentals until this major outbreak is controlled? I was planning to put lawn bulbs in at some point. Will the grubs kill them even as I put controls in place?
That's a tough one. I'm an impatient guy, so I'd probably err on the side of trialing plants & bulbs at the same time as addressing the grubs. I've never fought a severe infestation of grubs in my lawn or garden, but I've heard that the BT solutions (depending on the type of grub) or Heterorhabditis nematodes can be pretty effective. Do you have a solid ID on the grubs themselves?
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I don't have an ID on the grubs. I bought a nematode mix of three species, hoping that would cover all the bases. I need to put them out tomorrow. I'm also impatient, so I ordered bulbs today. Hopefully they'll be okay. The mite packages are already hanging around the yard. Thank you for helping me think through this. I'm new to gardening, so it helps.
I’ve found if you want to have an indoor and outdoor garden. You need to tend to your indoor garden in the mornings after a shower and not at all again that day. Most common cause of outbreak is accidentally bringing them in on yourself.
Someone sent me a lovely Calathea recently full of spidermites. Didn’t check my plants for one day and found the effers. Took everything out of pots, rinsed everything upside down in the bathtub, rinsed off the roots, have Dr. Earths spray and diluted in water - sprayed everything individually and placed in cups of water outside
I have a mature avocado tree, about 15 to 20 feet tall. What do you recommend, it has spider mites as the leaves are spotted and I can see webbing underneath it. All the sudden more and more leaves are dropping including smaller leaves. I’m in California and it’s a Hass avocado tree.
With a large tree, it depends on what kind of effort you're willing to put in. Often, a sharp spray of water to the undersides of the leaves will reduce the mite populations an awful lot. That's easier said than done on a large tree.
I appreciate this. Thank you. My vegetable garden started deteriorating after a heavy rain. All but 1 of my broccoli plants rotted the cabbage plants that were flourishing started to rot. I noticed the webs of the spider mites first. Now they are all covered in the little brown mites. Is there any hope? Or should I just pull everything out?
Sorry to hear it Katherine. I always err on the side of hope - spider mites (and rot) can be discouraging, but predators will often follow and bring the pests a little more under control. Your call whether these veggies can be saved, but you can always add new plantings throughout the season.
Love Jason so much!🤙 Spidermites indoors on multiple plant types. (They love Chinese lanterns.) I've used neem oil frequently and find their numbers are now very low with no new webs. Before I purchase anything else is complete eradication possible or can you only manage their numbers down to this point? Thank you, to anyone who offers help. 🌱🙏
This video was so helpful. I’ve been growing a rose cutting in my basement since fall, and noticed the leaves looking diseased and the little webs. I wonder where they come from?
Thanks for the video. I have a huge indoor succulent collection. It’s been attacked by spider mites and they suddenly look terrible. I’m considering using Avid spray . Thanks know it’s not natural. But I gotta act fast . I’ve spent thousands on my plants . Anyway,. I’m gonna try predator mites . How quick would they knock them down ?
Thank you do much for the beautiful red rose and gor showing how one should prune a rose tree,, very interesting something I am scared of doing in case I cut thr wrong branch off or cut the rose tree to far down, so I just leave it. Annie
I was wondering what type or brand of soap I could use to mix in with the neem oil? I bought the Dyna-Gro Pure Neem Oil you recommended, but forgot about soap! My fiance uses something called green soap, so I didn't know if maybe that would work. I just don't want to harm my crotons. I made the mistake of using dish soap before on another plant, so I wanted to get it right.
I've only ever used insecticidal soap (potassium salts of fatty acids) - checked the wikipedia article after reading your question, and it looks like some people have had success with "green soap" as well. For caution (both with soap and neem oil) keep your rates low to start and observe after the first application for any damage to the leaves.
if i have to spray everyone of those leaves..why, i am just getting my vacuum cleaner out and suck them up to their deaths..aphids earwigs, mites, thrips...my vacuum doesnt care...have fun
I sprayed water until they fall of and down they leaves where they hide and it did worked and they all died . Then 4 days later 5 of them appeared its because those previous eggs that are freshly hatched and i killed them is that good?
I'll cross my fingers and toes too! Make sure to have a look at your temperature and humidity to best benefit the predator population. In Fahrenheit, it's 70 to 85 degrees, and humidity from 60 to 90%. Best luck!
A really large plant covered in spider mites will be extremely hard to get rid of the spider mites the smaller the plant the easier it is to get rid of them the larger the harder
Can you tell me if the predatory mites are harmful to pets? I have birds, and I'm worried if I get an army of them, they'll go after my birds when they're done w/ the spider mites. Really love the idea of them, though.
Hi Ramona - no risk to your birds, the predatory mites only hunt for other little arthropods (usually plant pests, although I hear they will cannibalize if they run out of prey)
I made a solution of cinnamon powder, water, and distilled vinegar I sprayed this heavily and now most of the leaves are very healthy looking but some areas of a small number of leaves look like it's dying Is this related to the spider mites? Or is it a symptom of downly mildew? Could my plants be infected in both mildew and spider mites? I see no white residue
Hi Ahmet. Yes, your plants can have both problems at the same time, or it could be a phytotoxic reaction to the vinegar spray (depending on concentration)
I read that vinegar can destroy the waxy layer on leaves and dry them out of moisture... I want an easy solution as my spidermite problem is very small at the moment and I don't wanna go full on pyrethrin or any other chemical solution
My Moringa leaves are starting to get speckled and yellowing and after looking with my mini microscope, I do see webs, round globules and some yellow bugs that look like the spider mites. I spayed Neem oil spray. The problem I see is that it's hard to spray neem oil on the underside of the leaves. Right now the plants are in ground and are 4-10 inches so any other suggestion to apply on the underside? Thanks. Suscribed.
Yikes. Those spruce mites can be pretty serious. I don't like to go immediately to chemical control, but this type of mite can be life threatening to cypress. If you tackle them with pesticide this season, maybe follow up over winter with an application of horticultural oil to wipe out the overwintering mites.
Hello, thanks for sharing, I live in Peú and want to know how you attack Planococcus citri, I have my roses with that and is pretty hard to remove it. Thank you.
Hi Iara2016 - mealybugs are a tough one, and thankfully I don't have to deal with them much in my climate. I know there are systemic pesticides, but maybe it's worth trying insecticidal soap, neem or other horticultural oils first?
Hi Barbara - I don't know how long our luck will hold up, but so far we've only spotted Japanese Beetle in one neighborhood in Vancouver. They're working hard to keep it from spreading. I've seen what the pest can do (mainly from here on UA-cam) and I really hope they're successful. It looks like a nightmare!
By eye the webbing of spider mites is quite fine and very tight to the surfaces of the plant. You can usually see some "schmutz" (mites, their eggs, their cast skins) in the webbing, so it's usually a bit dirty looking. Search google images for "spider mite webbing" for some examples.
Thrips are similarly tough to reach with a regular spray, hiding in the folds of flowers or in curled up leaves, but yes, if you can make direct contact, these same solutions will work.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you for replying, what season is the best season to put them in garden? If I already sprayed neem oil on the plant, how long should I wait to get the predator mite? Or ladybug 🐞 or green lacewing?
Hi Jason, I have some baby roses in pot which have rooted 3 months ago. They have spider mites. The leaves are turning dry and some look burnt at the edges. I sprayed neem oil and liquid dish soap( Dawn) diluted with water on and under the leaves. I didn’t have the Insecticidal soap on hand. Will this be harmful to the leaves? They look very dry. I bought the Bonide Insecticidal soap now. What should I do so that the leaves look healthy again and new leaves grow. I also bought a small bottle of Superthrive. Should I spray that on the leaves? Please advice.
The spider mites can sure make the leaves look unhappy in a hurry. You may see a reaction from the dish soap (or even the neem) - and you'll probably need to let the plant grow on a bit for the fresh leaves before it looks much better. Superthrive is no problem used as directed, but don't expect burned or damaged leaves to recover, really. It'll be the new growth where you'll see the improvement.
Thank you I'm just begging my collection of roses in my new home in Texas I just hope I don't have big problems with my garden I bought two climber red and a white they are from Home Depot they were bare root in February I'm looking for roses that might like Texas weather if you have suggestions I fo prefer climbers my califorina home I know what to do I'm not even sure what zone I'm in here I'm between Fort Worth and Dallas
Any idea how to get rid of those evil things on outdoor roses that eat the leaves leaving them looking like Swiss cheese? I've been putting Gold Bond powder on them, which seems to keep them at bay, but I'm concerned it might hurt the bees. Any suggestions?
I’m am organic farmer and can’t seem to find any videos showing something I can do commercially. Been trying insects but it’s hard to get enough to work and the beneficials don’t reproduce as quick as the mites. Oil and surfactants work but coverage is nearly impossible. 😩
Hmmm. I think some organic associations approve spinosad, and it can be effective on mites. A tough thing about spider mites is that no single spray is a magic bullet over a long period. Even if it works for a time, without rotation they can develop resistance. Sulfur is another option, but it will kill beneficial mites too (and I'm not sure you'd be okay with the residue on your crops)
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thanks for the tips. I’ve actually noticed the best results so far from opening the walls on what were screened greenhouses. my guess is that the mites have more competition. I’m considering adding banker plants for beneficials but still trying things out. I’m not allowed to use Spinosad because of extracts that are made from flowers I grow, and I can’t spray knockdowns on flowers because it would contaminate them. I spray oils or sulfur early on along with bt, and that seems to cover me until the plants are large enough that some foliage is hard to reach, then pockets of pests develop. When I have to quit spraying the mites explode. I’m lucky in that a nearby university group of entomologists are using my farm to study the effects of beneficial insects so hopefully we work something out.
Thank you! We just found spider mites on our baby Majesty Palm. We’re going to try this! Should we isolate the infested plant from the others? Will the mites travel to our other houseplants?
Is it necessary to repot an indoor plant to get rid of spider mites? Is there any kind of household soap that isn't harsh on the plant? I tried the dish soap thing before I watched your video and I don't think my parlor palm liked it, sadly. Is something like dial soap okay or no?
Hi Little Fawn - dish soap and most household soaps are either detergents or sodium based, making them a little harsher on the plant tissues. Insecticidal soap is potassium based. I think there are a few household soaps that are similar (like Castile soap) but they're not as easy to come by, and not inexpensive themselves. Short answer: I think the dial soap may also damage your leaves.
Ive been battling these for years. We have had a drought which has made it challenging to keep humidity high and they have decimated our veggies and ornamentals. This is one of the only genuinely helpful videos out there! They always seem to come back but controlling a small population is so much easier. For those wondering, don't bother with the homemade vinegar or chilli sprays, they did nothing for me other than strip the natural oils from the plants making them more vulnerable.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
I'm having similar drought issues. They are wreking the plants, especially the fruit and I don't quite know what to do, especially since they're outdoor plants.
You're doing Lord's work Jason. Every youtuber should learn from you how to produce a video. No BS, straight to the point !!!
I find that if you are going to invest your time spraying things like the underside of the leaf, you might as well just use soapy water and a sponge. Takes care of the majority of the mites especially those under the webbings.
You can even customize the size of the sponges by cutting them up or use a very soft bristle toothbrush.
Plus there is zero risk of the mites developing resistance as you are killing them via physical action instead.
This is awesome for the start of the infestation and should prevent most infestations from getting out of control. You obviously need to regularly scout by looking closely at your crops at least weekly, which you should be doing anyway. Thankfully spider mites are so easy to spot.
Something that worked for me (at least on a lemon tree) - I set it outside. My hypothesis was that the army mites in nature would rally, and save my little tree. So I put it outside. And it worked. Brought the tree inside for winter, and it did fine. No sign of spider mites.
After having a massive outbreak in my house, just found out these suckers also survive in aquatic surface plants. Yep. Had to take all the plants off my sunroom, only to find out that they still managed to call dibs on a tiny aquarium with some surface plants (they managed to create small webs between the water surface and the aquarium walls. Tiny nasty little creatures.
Wow! I'd never heard that before, but nothing they do can really surprise me.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm it really shocked me too. That whole room now has no plants or aquariums and will be refurbished shortly. Sadly, I still have the feeling that they will manage to survive and infest anything I add there. Thanks for the video!
This is crazy! I saw webs in my aquarium and had no ideas until I found them on my Aquaponics plant
Thats what those are?! I have a lot of natural aquarium setups and never paid much attention to the little buggies on top. How do you get rid of them?
I just noticed them on my Alocasia 😭 I'm about to go treat every plant with neem oil as a precation.
Good informative video. Increasing humidity levels with a humidifier works wonders for getting rid of spider mites around indoor orchids.
Thanks Danny - great tip for suppressing their population growth!
ncsam 000000 absolute prick. Clearly very little knowledge on indoor growing or pest control.
Not really. I do it all the time, and "all the time" is a key word!😂
Spider mites killed my rose plant. I used Eight spray to kill spider mites. It helped. But then spider mites were on new grows and then suddenly all leaves fell off. Thank you for your video.
You are amazing, this is such a comprehensive breakdown of the whole spectrum of solutions! Exactly what I was looking for!! I recently saw that my baby basil n luffa and money plants have erupted with spider mites and I was so frantic and upset! But now that I know all this I’m confident of what to do next :) thank you so much!! You’ve helped me a lot hehe
Ladybugs easy quick and guarantee death to mites for indoor use. Amazon has them year round and they're cheap . These cute insect will devour up to 100 mites a day each.
Thanks for that info. I didn't know you could buy ladybugs from Amazon.
Hi it is much better to try to find local bugs... If you can find a place in your area that sells bugs. This is better.
Ordering bugs from a random place, this can destroy the bugs that are indigenous to your area.
I mean you can buy ladybugs online and they can go escape and make sick the ladybugs that are already living in your area. So before buying cheap bugs random online, search locally. please.
I had a problem with my plans I did not know what was the matter it just kept getting worse until I seen your video
Thanks so much so much appreciate it now I know .
Nice. I'm glad you found the little critters!
Oh that's cool, next level gardening - planting/landscaping for predator insects! Great idea!
This is my online rose bible. Thank you so much for all the actionable information. I'm currently dealing with a spider mite calamity!
bayer 3 in 1 is probably the best thing on the market for mites. It's an actual true mitecide. From what I've read pyretherium or however you spell it isn't even completely effective mites are extremely resistant to even pesticides. I know bayer 3 in 1 is the best at least it was a few years ago maybe something better is out now because in the salt water reef hobby we have a very annoying pest that is a salt water mite that resists all coral chemical dips. Bayer 3 in 1 is what is used to dip corals to truly kill off all pests. Bayer 3 in 1 completely solves the issue in one spray but it is a chemical. I also use it for my house plants. Every 6 months I spray everything outside and after an hour I rinse off my houseplants to get rid of any residue since it should have killed everything by then and also soaked into the plants good enough as a systemic. Thought I should share since mites really are a nightmare to get rid of. I wish there was something I could just spray my plants inside and not have to wash off and was natural safe effective but have never heard of such a thing. There are plants that react badly to neem oil.
Tanks for sharing your experience!
Great Video, very informative. I use a fogger type sprayer. Does a much better job of reaching those hard to get areas.
good pumping rhythm and powerful spray, and I loved the way he rubbed the bottom.
It seems odd to me that you didn't mention abamectin. It seems odd because the only place I could obtain it was from a rose grower in the USA. It's a natural product, made from fermented fungus, and is harmless to humans. It's actually used internally in medicine. The bottle I had contained 8 ounces, and yes it was expensive. The best things usually are. My bottle lasted over 10 years and was still effective (even though I eventually upped the dose to 4X). Plants are not affected by it as they are by soaps and oils. With all the problems with mites so many growers have, it puzzles me that the BEST solution is the one nobody mentions. I want the cure, not the treatment ;) The brand name is Avid. A bottle can be shared to reduce expense. Single application can be effective, because it has residual translaminar properties.
EDIT: It does have some toxicity for a very small percentage of humans, and dogs are sensitive to it. It's something that is rarely used, so exposure to it is likely to be very minimal.
I'm familiar with Avid from my day job in horticulture. Toxicity is a concern for me (see the label: www.syngenta.ca/pdf/Labels/AVID_1.9_EC_24485_en_pamphlet.pdf ) There's also an issue of pesticide resistance, which is hastened if you don't rotate with other chemicals from a different class.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm , I get your point, and it's up to individual choice, I guess. I found that Avid worked so well, there was no need to try anything else, so I never had to employ IPM. Also, it wasn't roses I used it on :)
Thank you so much Jason for a lovlely very helpful video and information i did spray my rose tree and Wow it has a flower and a. bud which is growing beautifully
Hi Jason, I have an leave disease going through my roses. Top of the leaves look like its been hit by spider mites, but no damage on the under side, no webbing either. Been hot and dry here. Gonna spray insecticidal soap every few days, hopefully that works.
I usually use a hose with enough pressure to spray the spider mites right off of my plants in our greenhouse
If an outdoor container plant is severely infested and you want to dispose of the plant, can you reuse the soil in the container? I have a 20 gallon container with quality soil in it and my cucumber plant was destroyed by the spider mites.
Very informative video. One question though, are any substance that you recommend can damage the plant if it enter their water source? I'm currently planting water spinach hydroponically and I'm not confident in my ability to prevent contamination
I have two parlour palms that were infested. I made a 10lt bucket of neem and dunked the plants in. It seemed to work, for now.
Thanks Rachel. Did you have any leaf burn from the oil?
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm no burn at all. I diluted at the rate stated on the bottle for heavy infestations.
Hi Rachel Makeup Tyler ! I have regular Neem oil, bought at the Pakistani market for hair. How much is the ratio to water?
I just used a mixture of washing up liquid and rubbing alcohol in a spray bottle. Worked well. Also works on wasps.
This was informative! We just realized spider mites were what was on our burning bushes. We sprayed them w insecticidal soap but the leaves r turning colors and falling off. Is the plant dead or will it come back next year if we keep up w spraying?
Hard to say from just the dropping of leaves (which can happen in response to stress or a phytotoxic reaction to the spray. If you scrape the bark on the stem and the underlying wood is still green, there's still hope.
Thank you, my garden is now saved !
I find mulching plants causes the spider mites to climb onto the sides of the pot or container to stay dry and I can periodically wipe them off with a cloth soaked in strong homemade distilled alcohol.
I don't do indoor plants largely d/t spider mites. I agree the predators will come. I learned this from "Living Web". We're getting our roses ready to go into winter. I am going to plant some radish around mine. Radish pulls up nutrient and it winter kills.
Thanks Portia - and a good reminder to seed my winter cover
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I am also still planting Crimson Clover. I am doing it in rockwool and Root Riot. Cereal Rye will also be planted:-)
I don't spray for insects and just let other insects get rid of the bad ones for me. It's amazing and it works. Great info.
I think I had them all on my mexican petunias. Except one that sprouted from my soil that was made by burning leaves, sticks etc. And the ash/dirt pile was in the open with sun or semi sun conditions. Air circulation and I never or rarely watered it
Thank you very much for this video. I have lots of expensive indoor plants and Spider Mites are my worst nightmare. I'm located in France (semi-continental, almost continental climate) what beneficial predator would you recommend ? Phytoseiulus persimilis / neoseiulus fallacis or macrolophus pygmaeus ? I've tried lacewings, but it was not so great. (I have mostly aroïds and euphorbia, so almost no flowers...)
Hi Alexis. Persimilis will be the fastest solution.
Thank you sooo much. I just started an indoor hydroponic garden two months ago.
Thank you for this comprehensive video. I really appreciate it. I would like to order plants for next year, but spider mites, grubs, crickets, grasshoppers, and aphids together have killed so many things in the last two years. I had to reseed the lawn, and replace several plants. I still haven't replaced several more, and more plants are dying. I feel like this coming year, I should just focus on biological controls. Do you think a year will be enough to get the situation under control?
I like your focus on biological controls, but let me suggest that it's not an either/or situation. Establishing some specific families and genera of plants will help support your efforts with predators and parasitoids. Think early blooming perennials and annuals from the mustard family (aubrieta, iberis, alyssum, lobularia) to get your predators a head-start, or small flowered members of the carrot family (ammi, fennel, astrantia, eryngium) to support hoverflies and others. One year may help a lot, but I don't think there's an actual finish line. More biodiversity will generally reduce outbreaks, but some pests may still "break through"
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you so much. I will look to seed my yard with them, and a few other natives that I just happen to like. Some take a couple of years to germinate anyway, so that will give me time. So it's a good idea not to plant bulbs or other perennial ornamentals until this major outbreak is controlled? I was planning to put lawn bulbs in at some point. Will the grubs kill them even as I put controls in place?
That's a tough one. I'm an impatient guy, so I'd probably err on the side of trialing plants & bulbs at the same time as addressing the grubs. I've never fought a severe infestation of grubs in my lawn or garden, but I've heard that the BT solutions (depending on the type of grub) or Heterorhabditis nematodes can be pretty effective. Do you have a solid ID on the grubs themselves?
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I don't have an ID on the grubs. I bought a nematode mix of three species, hoping that would cover all the bases. I need to put them out tomorrow. I'm also impatient, so I ordered bulbs today. Hopefully they'll be okay. The mite packages are already hanging around the yard. Thank you for helping me think through this. I'm new to gardening, so it helps.
I found a pod of real spider younglings and transferred a few of them to the tent, seems to work nice.
Interesting. Thanks Jimmy
I’ve found if you want to have an indoor and outdoor garden. You need to tend to your indoor garden in the mornings after a shower and not at all again that day. Most common cause of outbreak is accidentally bringing them in on yourself.
Someone sent me a lovely Calathea recently full of spidermites. Didn’t check my plants for one day and found the effers. Took everything out of pots, rinsed everything upside down in the bathtub, rinsed off the roots, have Dr. Earths spray and diluted in water - sprayed everything individually and placed in cups of water outside
Working on getting an insecticidal soap made to sub for the spray. Even though it’s organic. Stinky !! Hoping they don’t come back.
You're a great speaker!
Thanks!
great video. thank you for sharing such valuable information, let the battle begin
I have a mature avocado tree, about 15 to 20 feet tall. What do you recommend, it has spider mites as the leaves are spotted and I can see webbing underneath it. All the sudden more and more leaves are dropping including smaller leaves. I’m in California and it’s a Hass avocado tree.
With a large tree, it depends on what kind of effort you're willing to put in. Often, a sharp spray of water to the undersides of the leaves will reduce the mite populations an awful lot. That's easier said than done on a large tree.
I appreciate this. Thank you. My vegetable garden started deteriorating after a heavy rain. All but 1 of my broccoli plants rotted the cabbage plants that were flourishing started to rot. I noticed the webs of the spider mites first. Now they are all covered in the little brown mites. Is there any hope? Or should I just pull everything out?
Sorry to hear it Katherine. I always err on the side of hope - spider mites (and rot) can be discouraging, but predators will often follow and bring the pests a little more under control. Your call whether these veggies can be saved, but you can always add new plantings throughout the season.
Love Jason so much!🤙
Spidermites indoors on multiple plant types. (They love Chinese lanterns.)
I've used neem oil frequently and find their numbers are now very low with no new webs.
Before I purchase anything else is complete eradication possible or can you only manage their numbers down to this point?
Thank you, to anyone who offers help.
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Thanks Dustin. It's a tough call. Spider mites will spread, but not equally to all varieties. I wouldn't hesitate to add plants and continue the fight
This Tha Best Video ive seen about this!
I just lost all my weed plants to spider mites. Good luck and keep up the good work
Dang. Sorry to hear it. They're so frustrating!
That sucks, we’re fighting a spider mite problem now and it’s killed 4 huge mother plants!
Cassandra Jose' the worst
@@RETRORALPH1979 try peppermint oil in water and spray on plants
or predator mites
magnesium + sulfur + molybdenum + boron foliar for larval insects - add sugar/molasses versus beetles. this is a nutritional spray for plants
Such a great video! I greatly appreciate this. I have a lot of indoor plants and ended up with spider mites.
This video was so helpful. I’ve been growing a rose cutting in my basement since fall, and noticed the leaves looking diseased and the little webs. I wonder where they come from?
They're pretty good at finding a way in!
Thanks for the video. I have a huge indoor succulent collection. It’s been attacked by spider mites and they suddenly look terrible. I’m considering using Avid spray . Thanks know it’s not natural. But I gotta act fast . I’ve spent thousands on my plants . Anyway,.
I’m gonna try predator mites . How quick would they knock them down ?
😃🌹❤️ thank you so much stay safe keep well happy and healthy
Fantastic video, very well presented and informative. Good job!
Thank you so much for the video on spider mites I did the spray and sprayed my rose trees. Thank you for a very interesting video Annie
Thanks for the feedback Annie!
Thank you do much for the beautiful red rose and gor showing how one should prune a rose tree,, very interesting something I am scared of doing in case I cut thr wrong branch off or cut the rose tree to far down, so I just leave it. Annie
I was wondering what type or brand of soap I could use to mix in with the neem oil? I bought the Dyna-Gro Pure Neem Oil you recommended, but forgot about soap! My fiance uses something called green soap, so I didn't know if maybe that would work. I just don't want to harm my crotons. I made the mistake of using dish soap before on another plant, so I wanted to get it right.
I've only ever used insecticidal soap (potassium salts of fatty acids) - checked the wikipedia article after reading your question, and it looks like some people have had success with "green soap" as well. For caution (both with soap and neem oil) keep your rates low to start and observe after the first application for any damage to the leaves.
if i have to spray everyone of those leaves..why, i am just getting my vacuum cleaner out and suck them up to their deaths..aphids earwigs, mites, thrips...my vacuum doesnt care...have fun
Thank you. Well presented and just what I was looking for 💯
Thanks. I'm glad you found it useful!
Jason, just live your video lessons.
I sprayed water until they fall of and down they leaves where they hide and it did worked and they all died . Then 4 days later 5 of them appeared its because those previous eggs that are freshly hatched and i killed them is that good?
It's difficult to get good control of spider mites with water alone, but if it works for you then that's excellent.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm i sometimes too destroy their webbing from my tomato leaves that their living at with a plant shovel
I’m going to trust this video and order the predator for the spider mites. Fingers crossed for my cultivation, it’s being attacked!
I'll cross my fingers and toes too! Make sure to have a look at your temperature and humidity to best benefit the predator population. In Fahrenheit, it's 70 to 85 degrees, and humidity from 60 to 90%. Best luck!
A really large plant covered in spider mites will be extremely hard to get rid of the spider mites the smaller the plant the easier it is to get rid of them the larger the harder
Thanks for the tip!
Can you tell me if the predatory mites are harmful to pets? I have birds, and I'm worried if I get an army of them, they'll go after my birds when they're done w/ the spider mites. Really love the idea of them, though.
Hi Ramona - no risk to your birds, the predatory mites only hunt for other little arthropods (usually plant pests, although I hear they will cannibalize if they run out of prey)
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Good! Thank you very kindly!
Hi, thanks for your video… My rose is facing spider mite attacks but its also flowering now.. Can I do the treatment for spider mites now?
Yes, I'd probably use a wettable sulfur spray
I made a solution of cinnamon powder, water, and distilled vinegar
I sprayed this heavily and now most of the leaves are very healthy looking but some areas of a small number of leaves look like it's dying
Is this related to the spider mites? Or is it a symptom of downly mildew? Could my plants be infected in both mildew and spider mites? I see no white residue
Hi Ahmet. Yes, your plants can have both problems at the same time, or it could be a phytotoxic reaction to the vinegar spray (depending on concentration)
I read that vinegar can destroy the waxy layer on leaves and dry them out of moisture... I want an easy solution as my spidermite problem is very small at the moment and I don't wanna go full on pyrethrin or any other chemical solution
Sir, what pen scanner r u using please let me know. thank you for this wonderful video.
My Moringa leaves are starting to get speckled and yellowing and after looking with my mini microscope, I do see webs, round globules and some yellow bugs that look like the spider mites. I spayed Neem oil spray. The problem I see is that it's hard to spray neem oil on the underside of the leaves. Right now the plants are in ground and are 4-10 inches so any other suggestion to apply on the underside? Thanks. Suscribed.
We have Italian Cypress that are badly invested. This is completely new to us. Oh boy...
Yikes. Those spruce mites can be pretty serious. I don't like to go immediately to chemical control, but this type of mite can be life threatening to cypress. If you tackle them with pesticide this season, maybe follow up over winter with an application of horticultural oil to wipe out the overwintering mites.
Very informative, thank you.
Can you spray with neem oil to prevent from getting spider mites or does it only work if you already have them?
It can help to reduce larger outbreaks, but I haven't found it completely effective as a preventive.
Hello, thanks for sharing, I live in Peú and want to know how you attack Planococcus citri, I have my roses with that and is pretty hard to remove it. Thank you.
Hi Iara2016 - mealybugs are a tough one, and thankfully I don't have to deal with them much in my climate. I know there are systemic pesticides, but maybe it's worth trying insecticidal soap, neem or other horticultural oils first?
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you so much, I will try this! I'll keep watching your videos!
I heard spraying with black tea would do work. 2 teabags steeped in cold water overnight. Any thoughts on that?
I haven't seen anything on it. Sorry
This is good info. Thanks. Do you struggle at all with the Japanese Beetles? They love to eat roses and are quite the pest.
Hi Barbara - I don't know how long our luck will hold up, but so far we've only spotted Japanese Beetle in one neighborhood in Vancouver. They're working hard to keep it from spreading. I've seen what the pest can do (mainly from here on UA-cam) and I really hope they're successful. It looks like a nightmare!
Awesome video very informative and straightforward
How can you tell apart the webbings of spider mites and from regular spiders?
By eye the webbing of spider mites is quite fine and very tight to the surfaces of the plant. You can usually see some "schmutz" (mites, their eggs, their cast skins) in the webbing, so it's usually a bit dirty looking. Search google images for "spider mite webbing" for some examples.
Are these mite harmful to the bee that I use to pollen my flowers???
Hi Carolyn. No, these spider mites are plant pests. The bees have parasitic mites too, but not these ones.
Wow really good video! I'm new to indoor gardening does thiswthod also kill thrips?
Thrips are similarly tough to reach with a regular spray, hiding in the folds of flowers or in curled up leaves, but yes, if you can make direct contact, these same solutions will work.
Where do you buy your predators from?
Here I get them from BioBest, but the suppliers vary a lot from region to region.
Dank!
Can spider mites get on oak trees or cedar trees ? If so I think they are in my house coming from the trees is this true ?
Different species of mites attack different plants. The two-spotted mite is a generalist, but not the same pest, I think, as you'd find on a cedar.
I just have a problem with them all over me when sitting on my swing. How do I get rid of them with a pet
Do you have a video on rose die back please?
Thanks. I'll mark it down on my list
can you mist plants and use a predator mite mite together or will the damp conditions scare off the predator mtie aswell?
Depends on the mite. Persimilis tolerates high humidity well!
Great video mate. Thank you 🙏
When should I start planting rose in Michigan? It start snowing around November until April or May.
Start them indoors in a container around January. Then transplant them outside after the threat of frost has passed.
Excellent presentation.
i have one 6 ft lemon tree in my apt, would you suggest introducing these other insects? how many? thx
suzanne sutton darn this was the question I was hoping he would answer :(
Oh my, my rose has the red color spider mites 😖😖😖 what should I do!? Are the the red mite that you talking about in the video🥺
Persimilis are predatory mites - quite small. They only remain until they've eaten the spider mites.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you for replying, what season is the best season to put them in garden? If I already sprayed neem oil on the plant, how long should I wait to get the predator mite? Or ladybug 🐞 or green lacewing?
Hi Jason, I have some baby roses in pot which have rooted 3 months ago. They have spider mites. The leaves are turning dry and some look burnt at the edges. I sprayed neem oil and liquid dish soap( Dawn) diluted with water on and under the leaves. I didn’t have the Insecticidal soap on hand. Will this be harmful to the leaves? They look very dry. I bought the Bonide Insecticidal soap now. What should I do so that the leaves look healthy again and new leaves grow. I also bought a small bottle of Superthrive. Should I spray that on the leaves? Please advice.
The spider mites can sure make the leaves look unhappy in a hurry. You may see a reaction from the dish soap (or even the neem) - and you'll probably need to let the plant grow on a bit for the fresh leaves before it looks much better. Superthrive is no problem used as directed, but don't expect burned or damaged leaves to recover, really. It'll be the new growth where you'll see the improvement.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm So when should I reapply the insecticidal soap on the leaves?
Very educational video. 🤗
Do these spider mites make lot's of spider web all over the leaves?
very helpful and informative! thanks
We went out of town and my palm tree was full of SM so I put it outside
Thank you I'm just begging my collection of roses in my new home in Texas I just hope I don't have big problems with my garden I bought two climber red and a white they are from Home Depot they were bare root in February I'm looking for roses that might like Texas weather if you have suggestions I fo prefer climbers my califorina home I know what to do I'm not even sure what zone I'm in here I'm between Fort Worth and Dallas
They are butts good Info they are everywhere in Tallahassee fl
Any idea how to get rid of those evil things on outdoor roses that eat the leaves leaving them looking like Swiss cheese? I've been putting Gold Bond powder on them, which seems to keep them at bay, but I'm concerned it might hurt the bees. Any suggestions?
Will sprays kill the predatory mites?
Hi Stephen. Yes, you can pretty much assume that most of the sprays you use to wipe out pests are also toxic to the beneficials.
Could I dunk my small house plants (the foliage) into a bucket of insecticidal soap since I cant get a sprayer?
Be careful about the concentration of the soap - it can be hard on the foliage. Yes, that sounds like a promising method.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thanks!! Recommend concentration?
Very good love all the information
Thanks Bradley!
Can anyone tell me the camera he’s using to look at the plant please ??
Digital microscope - I listed it on my amazon store: www.amazon.com/shop/fraservalleyrosefarm?listId=1Q3JZLMVG1XEX
I’m am organic farmer and can’t seem to find any videos showing something I can do commercially. Been trying insects but it’s hard to get enough to work and the beneficials don’t reproduce as quick as the mites. Oil and surfactants work but coverage is nearly impossible. 😩
Hmmm. I think some organic associations approve spinosad, and it can be effective on mites. A tough thing about spider mites is that no single spray is a magic bullet over a long period. Even if it works for a time, without rotation they can develop resistance. Sulfur is another option, but it will kill beneficial mites too (and I'm not sure you'd be okay with the residue on your crops)
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thanks for the tips. I’ve actually noticed the best results so far from opening the walls on what were screened greenhouses. my guess is that the mites have more competition. I’m considering adding banker plants for beneficials but still trying things out.
I’m not allowed to use Spinosad because of extracts that are made from flowers I grow, and I can’t spray knockdowns on flowers because it would contaminate them. I spray oils or sulfur early on along with bt, and that seems to cover me until the plants are large enough that some foliage is hard to reach, then pockets of pests develop. When I have to quit spraying the mites explode.
I’m lucky in that a nearby university group of entomologists are using my farm to study the effects of beneficial insects so hopefully we work something out.
Very useful, thank you very much~
Do you rinse the insecticidal soap off after a bit or leave it? No one ever says one way or the other.
I leave it on. It doesn't seem to cause any problems.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Great!! Thanks so much. I've looked everywhere and it never says. lol
Thank you! We just found spider mites on our baby Majesty Palm. We’re going to try this! Should we isolate the infested plant from the others? Will the mites travel to our other houseplants?
Yes, spider mites can spread rapidly with higher temperatures.
Can taking a rose bush from inside to outside in cooler weather help kill the spider mites as well?
They sure don't like it - but depending on how cold, neither will the tender shoots of your rose.
Thank you I tried it for 1 day to see how it works
Neem oil again. Awesome. Thank you!
Is it necessary to repot an indoor plant to get rid of spider mites? Is there any kind of household soap that isn't harsh on the plant? I tried the dish soap thing before I watched your video and I don't think my parlor palm liked it, sadly. Is something like dial soap okay or no?
Hi Little Fawn - dish soap and most household soaps are either detergents or sodium based, making them a little harsher on the plant tissues. Insecticidal soap is potassium based. I think there are a few household soaps that are similar (like Castile soap) but they're not as easy to come by, and not inexpensive themselves. Short answer: I think the dial soap may also damage your leaves.