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A word of caution for those watching. I would just observe that US Army service vehicle interiors are considered CUI. I'm easy to track down, I was speaking to a G.O. two days after I released without prior approval a three second clip of the back of an MGS. I've not shown the inside of front-line US equipment since (I would like to make full-bird). If this video went through PAO, then great, but I might mention such in the description before people get wrong ideas.
You get used to it very quickly. You're so focused on listening to your TC or gunner you start to tune it out. The hearing protection on the CVC helmets help too.
Супер! Мне нравится танк " Абрамс".. Танкисты США имеют высокое мастерство и профессионализм.. Я же служил танкистом на Т-64А в Украине. 19975-1977 гг. Привет из Georgia!
I noticed the sight for the gunner and TC are set up to use ur right eye to aim/look into. Can you shift the brow rest over so u can use ur left eye if ur left eye has better eye sight. About to go to BCT for 19k with 20/20 left eye vision and 20/80 right eye vision
B. Co. 1-64 AR, 1ABCT, 3rd infantry division. Had the awesome pleasure of commanding a tank with them at JRTC 2023. This footage is old, though. The tank used here is the SEPV2. They now have the V3.
@@jeremyacevedo65925 or 4 is impossible, only if tank staying still,loader keeps ammunition door open and know exactly where every type of shell is placed so he don’t waste time to search it
@Desertwolf399 I'm not bragging when I say this. I'm a tank commander. I have witnessed firsthand MANY soldiers, some of them in my unit, loading while the tank is on the move, in less than 5 seconds. I promise you it is possible.
Do not reload instantly, it is dangerous, I saw that every time you shoot you reload, and this is serious if you are not sure and they can shoot you while you are reloaded.
@@luigigunner "Up" is the only requirement of the fire command sequence, but many loaders (including me) would always say the round first to verify and ensure the gunner was reminder about what he was about to fire. Setting for HEAT when a sabot is in the breech is a recipe for a flyaway round.
1 Scentence, Ukranians arent trained well enough to operate the Abrams to its full potential, they Also dont know most american tactics, Fire, move into cover while reloading, when reloaded move up, fire again, then rinse and repeat.
@@ThatOneBoomer_Hehe American tactics, lol, it's like, how to drink water: take glass, fill up the water, open mouth...this is great American tactics, nobody understand this, of course
say something about children from Iraq, Afghanistan, Serbia, Livia, Syria, and other countries after USA "democratization".you want the same for us, and there is one reason, money, the second one regulation
I was one of the lucky souls to get a tour of a military bases newest Abram’s model when I went up to one. (I’m a civilian btw) I got to sit in every seat in it, got a history brief on it and a small bit of history behind the M1A2 Abrams tank.
Wow! The thickness of the turret top looked remarkably thin, too thin to be composite armour, if that's just an inch of rolled armoured steel then we have discovered that the Abrams has the same weak spot as Russian tanks. Yes the shells may be in a protected bin in the rear bustle so less likely to blow the turret off if hit, but when an anti tank missile comes in for a top down strike then that molten stream of metal particles is going to give the turret crew a very bad day, how many have been lost in combat, 278?
I think only like 70 have been lost (destroyed, captured, or abandoned) but idk. I know that there’s very few destroyed Abrams because it’s been used against weak insurgencies for the past couple decades and they don’t have that great of at ability
@@aidboo1054 no its over 278 lost to enemy fire, not just by the American military but also by those nations that have bought it, like Iraq, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia
@@nickmail7604 I’m talking about u.s. losses. we train our troops much better than whatever they can manage, and have much newer models, no offense. Besides, lumping in export losses with domestic is a bad thing. Russian t72 losses would be thousands higher due to Iraq losing their entire stock in the gulf war.
So you do get Bose noise canceling headphones, but they don't cut out the whine you hear. Plenty of tankers get tinnitus or worse hearing loss, which usually gets covered by VA (I got tinnitus from my.time in the tank, all I can claim is hearing aids through my state for free).
Aint like theres a medium machine gun inside the fighting compartment thats shooting hundreds of rounds and a huge 120mm main gun too. Obviously they have ear protection but, lets be real, going into military service, you WILL sacrifice some of your hearing.
@@warweasel2832with the headset on the main gun is dampened pretty well and the are noise canceling headsets. But that whine is too high of a pitch to really get stopped that much, so it just goes right through, it's why so many of us have tinnitus after a gunnery or two.
Autoloaders break down, are generally fussy, and can’t take watch, operate tertiary armament, or help repair the tank. Human loaders offer better flexibility of ammo type selection, mechanical simplicity, and can often outpace autoloaders in short bursts. The K2 has a great system, I’ll give you that, but it just doesn’t fit into our tank doctrine.
Russians… always gotta be starting shit even when no one asked them a thing. That’s the reason why Ruski kids are being raised by single mothers while flowers grow out of their fathers’ skulls in the fields of Ukraine.
It's mind blowing that you can be so smug when literal thousands of Russian tanks are burnt down to a crisp with their turrets launched into orbit, along with their crews. Against drones, no tank is immune, soviet tanks however do a much worse job at keeping their crews alive, but clearly you don't care about that.
Pretty much. That’s a small window though. Loitering with an fpv drone is usually pretty tricky compared to just trying to hit the damn thing any way you can.
@@aidboo1054 nevertheless, all of these tanks (except for the T-14) are actively participating in the war with Ukraine, unlike the Abrams, half of which simply stand deep in the rear, and the other half die from drones
@@aidboo1054 здорово, что ты признаёшь своё удивление. Странно, конечно, что за два года войны ты ещё не узнал, что абсолютно большинство российских танков составляют современные модели.
@@risbolensky3921 RT tell ya the abrams is overpriced junk and not a superior tank in every way? There are no accurate sources on abrams numbers outside of satellite imagery and guess work
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In Iraq twice, Afghanistan, and several other wars. And when has Korea fought with K2s? Why so many critical Koreans in this comment section? What are you all so salty about?
@@warweasel2832the K2 is an infinitely superior tank, it has far superior upper glacis protection (the Abrams only has 38.1mm RHA steel) and 3rd gen (instead of 2nd gen) thermals
@@Anonymous-is6xu you are 100% basing your entire expectation of main battle tanks off of war thunder gameplay, which I’m sorry to say is not expertise. The optics package on the M1A2 SEP V3 are the most advanced of any armored ground vehicle deployed by any country.
@@warweasel2832 you have absolutely no evidence to support that claim, which is expected for someone who thinks someone that clearly doesn’t have a steam account plays war thunder. I worked at an environmental testing laboratory back in the 70s and we received units from Chrysler and FMC which, along with automotive components, included the upper plate for the preproduction XM1 Abrams. Yes, it is 38.1mm. Yes, this is not sensitive information and it is well known that this is still the case even with the latest Sep v3 variant, there are countless images that prove that the thickness of this plate has not changed. It is also common knowledge that the M1A2 Sep v3 is still using 2nd generation thermal imagers, which is inferior to the 3rd generation Catherine FC thermals from France, the 3rd gen PKT manufactured in Russia, and the 3rd KGPS produced by the ROK. The bottom line is ANY 3rd generation thermal imager is going to outperform a 2nd gen. On top of that, the K2 is one of the only tanks in the world that is equipped with an L-band pulsed Doppler radar system integrated with the fire control system on top of the same rangefinders and sensors like the abrams, which means it’s target tracking ability is far better and can acquire targets at much greater distances. Its time to pick up a book kiddo
These tanks are not so tufff when they meet an enimy that can fight back at equal power. Mabey America should go back to fighting 3rd world countrys so they dont loose any tanks.
хватит снимать пустые видео, приезжайте в Украину, привозите тысячи ваших Абрамсов, воюйте против русских фашистов! Вот тогда и посмотрите, чего эти танки стоит на самом деле. Сколько вы будете отсиживаться в тылу и трястись от страха от путинских угроз ?????
Putin threats… empty ones… America doesn’t need to waste its time, money or troops by joining in this war full time. neither Russia nor Ukraine is worth that much… also, how long has it taken the worlds second best, oh sorry “best” army in the world to take the 22nd best? 2 years? yeah I’m gonna play the bull crap card here
You want nuclear war? What reason is there to send NATO troops to escalate things to WW3? The Ukrainians seem good enough to stall your army on their own. They certainly turned a 3 day “special military operation” into a 2 year total nightmare for Putin.
A big thanks to Kafuko channel for the provided footage:
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Check out his channel for more tank videos:
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A word of caution for those watching. I would just observe that US Army service vehicle interiors are considered CUI. I'm easy to track down, I was speaking to a G.O. two days after I released without prior approval a three second clip of the back of an MGS. I've not shown the inside of front-line US equipment since (I would like to make full-bird). If this video went through PAO, then great, but I might mention such in the description before people get wrong ideas.
yes, it went through a review. no breach of opsec here. it's also a few years old
@@Swahzur lost dumbass
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What’s a CUI?
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I read that as tanks for watching lmao.
The M1 Abrams is a beautiful Main Battle Tank~♥
In game, not real life 😂
It's not about how nice tanks look like, but about their functionality!!!
@@lumanoderechte Why are you being so serious? ㅎㅎㅎ
Just find a good strategy.
Т 72 показал, что это не так
That noise would drive me crazy
Tank cap has hearing protection its doable.
You get used to it very quickly. You're so focused on listening to your TC or gunner you start to tune it out. The hearing protection on the CVC helmets help too.
That's the sound of power
turbine noise is crazy, never forget the headphones!
After two minutes I am already fed up with this sound... Imagine being there for hours
Bro that’s not even the engine that’s just the hydraulics
@@izraelservantofalmightygodlegit just drowns out after a while, that or it's hearing damage
@@Ethan-ck2ld - VA rep - Not Service Connected. :-/
Man- after retiring 2003- ALL 19K- these videos will never get old and bring back memories of what FREEDOM stands for!
Red 7 out!
Dude, that's just cool. Abrams is powerful!!!!
No. It’s just a tank.
No =))
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LOTS MEMORIES FROM M1 TANK I WAS IN THE TRAINING TRANSITION FROM ALL M60 TO THE NEW M1 ABRAMS TANKS.
More tank pov pls.
Brings back memories
This is so cool! Great job!
Outside of having to wait for the ammo door to open, the loader is pretty quick at feeding the cannon.
Hearing protection is paramount.
I noticed the sight for the gunner and TC are set up to use ur right eye to aim/look into. Can you shift the brow rest over so u can use ur left eye if ur left eye has better eye sight. About to go to BCT for 19k with 20/20 left eye vision and 20/80 right eye vision
Not sure now, but older versions you could. I'd imagine new ones would be able to as well.
B. Co. 1-64 AR, 1ABCT, 3rd infantry division. Had the awesome pleasure of commanding a tank with them at JRTC 2023. This footage is old, though. The tank used here is the SEPV2. They now have the V3.
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Its funny! When im close to gun fire without ppe, my ears QUIT ringing
Your injuries are not service related.
How is the ammo door operated? Is it from a button or does it open automatically when breech is opened/shot is fired?
The loader presses a button
Wow loader is fast to reload the gun
The loaders go through extensive training to maintain 5 to sub 4 second reload times.
@@jeremyacevedo65925 or 4 is impossible, only if tank staying still,loader keeps ammunition door open and know exactly where every type of shell is placed so he don’t waste time to search it
@Desertwolf399 I'm not bragging when I say this. I'm a tank commander. I have witnessed firsthand MANY soldiers, some of them in my unit, loading while the tank is on the move, in less than 5 seconds. I promise you it is possible.
@@jeremyacevedo6592 okay, I will trust you, that’s pretty impressive
How do they know what sabot and heat is tho i know theres text on the back of the shell but they grab it really quickly
M1 Abrams tank firing into the outlands loader view
SEP V2 or V3? Also what is that jacket the TC's wearing?
SEPV2. The jacket is a newer cold weather jacket issued by the U.S. Army.
God the noise of just the tank is insane . Not even when the 120mm cannon goes off , but just the tank idling .Jesus
This is why we ALL have hearing loss after a few years. It's the endless whine of the turbine engine, not the main gun.
No way to not be loud when youre part of the whole package
ahhh the abrams turbine engine would drive any man insane
Anyone else worried about the commander's knee when he was standing on the seat?
that's awesome
Do not reload instantly, it is dangerous, I saw that every time you shoot you reload, and this is serious if you are not sure and they can shoot you while you are reloaded.
i want to be a tank crewman but my claustrophobia would get the best of me
Do we not say "up" anymore?
Nevermind I guess someone reminded him
You're supposed to!
Sabo up? They changed the loader's response????
No?... You always say what type of round and then "up"
@@RedTail1-1 I was a19K for 12 years ('93 to ''04)..."up" was the only required response. Must be a new thing!
@@luigigunner "Up" is the only requirement of the fire command sequence, but many loaders (including me) would always say the round first to verify and ensure the gunner was reminder about what he was about to fire. Setting for HEAT when a sabot is in the breech is a recipe for a flyaway round.
"UP" is required but "(ROUND) UP" isn't wrong. If a crew wants to do that they can
This looks fun, till your arms get tired anyways
i thought it had 3 crew members, not 4
Nope, most modern main battle tanks have a driver, gunner, loader, and commander
On the f'ing way.
Ну чего помогли вам ваши Абрамсы?
Elaborate? Maybe speak the language of the person you’re asking if you actually wanted an answer?
1 Scentence, Ukranians arent trained well enough to operate the Abrams to its full potential, they Also dont know most american tactics, Fire, move into cover while reloading, when reloaded move up, fire again, then rinse and repeat.
@@ThatOneBoomer_Hehe American tactics, lol, it's like, how to drink water: take glass, fill up the water, open mouth...this is great American tactics, nobody understand this, of course
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say something about children from Iraq, Afghanistan, Serbia, Livia, Syria, and other countries after USA "democratization".you want the same for us, and there is one reason, money, the second one regulation
Anybody else see a dark green face?
7s to reload.
I was one of the lucky souls to get a tour of a military bases newest Abram’s model when I went up to one. (I’m a civilian btw) I got to sit in every seat in it, got a history brief on it and a small bit of history behind the M1A2 Abrams tank.
Bobby?😂
Wow! The thickness of the turret top looked remarkably thin, too thin to be composite armour, if that's just an inch of rolled armoured steel then we have discovered that the Abrams has the same weak spot as Russian tanks. Yes the shells may be in a protected bin in the rear bustle so less likely to blow the turret off if hit, but when an anti tank missile comes in for a top down strike then that molten stream of metal particles is going to give the turret crew a very bad day, how many have been lost in combat, 278?
The thickness of tank’s roofs are usually thin are they not?
I think only like 70 have been lost (destroyed, captured, or abandoned) but idk. I know that there’s very few destroyed Abrams because it’s been used against weak insurgencies for the past couple decades and they don’t have that great of at ability
@@aidboo1054 no its over 278 lost to enemy fire, not just by the American military but also by those nations that have bought it, like Iraq, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia
@@nickmail7604 I’m talking about u.s. losses. we train our troops much better than whatever they can manage, and have much newer models, no offense. Besides, lumping in export losses with domestic is a bad thing. Russian t72 losses would be thousands higher due to Iraq losing their entire stock in the gulf war.
Pretty sure only the swedish? version of Leopard 2 has improved roof armor. Every other MBT usually just has a few cm of homogeneous steel.
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📢SABOT UP📢
A lot of Butthurt Russians in the comments, trying to say the T-72 is better lmfao.
I wonder how on earth the TC i supposed to see forward when he has his head out of the hatch with this huge CROWS system in front of him
You don't. I hate the CROWS partly because of that reason.
NOISY......Surprised there has not been some sort of lawsuit about that ear shattering
whine.....
Everyone’s required to wear ear protection
Hearing protection apparently doesn’t exist
Imagine suing tank malfunctioner just because the noise from it engine
So you do get Bose noise canceling headphones, but they don't cut out the whine you hear. Plenty of tankers get tinnitus or worse hearing loss, which usually gets covered by VA (I got tinnitus from my.time in the tank, all I can claim is hearing aids through my state for free).
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They should listen to good metal music, so as not to hear that hum that is so atrocious for the ears and the brain.😵😵
this crap hurts my ears, i can hear ringing in them.
looks like a coffin
Sorry I can’t hear you. Just watched 3 minutes of whine. Ear protection or not, I guarantee all of these tankers having hearing loss.
Aint like theres a medium machine gun inside the fighting compartment thats shooting hundreds of rounds and a huge 120mm main gun too. Obviously they have ear protection but, lets be real, going into military service, you WILL sacrifice some of your hearing.
I would think the 120mm gun would be more damaging to one’s hearing than the turbine, wouldn’t you?
@@warweasel2832with the headset on the main gun is dampened pretty well and the are noise canceling headsets. But that whine is too high of a pitch to really get stopped that much, so it just goes right through, it's why so many of us have tinnitus after a gunnery or two.
@@nucleus691the guns get blocked out pretty well, but the whine doesn't.
With the CVC on, the whine is very, very low, and the guns are near quiet when fired.
Люки, надо закрывать. Иначе, в люк, прилетит граната, с дрона
Да уж Т-90 это не забудьте рассказать.
@@hybrid2801 ну уж говорить это т-90, у которого панорамный вид, точно не нужно.
Maybe if they were in a war zone, but this is stateside training, lmao. Not many bomb drones flying around here, unlike Moscow, I’m sure.
아직도 수동장전 한다고? 세계최고 미군이?ㅡㅡ
Autoloaders break down, are generally fussy, and can’t take watch, operate tertiary armament, or help repair the tank. Human loaders offer better flexibility of ammo type selection, mechanical simplicity, and can often outpace autoloaders in short bursts. The K2 has a great system, I’ll give you that, but it just doesn’t fit into our tank doctrine.
are you sure this tank is Abrams??
Yes it is
what else?
No, it's Panzer 1
It very much is
its a bob semple duh
Украина показала,что из себя представляет абрамс. Увидел весь мир. Так что успокойтесь,и сидите тихо.
Russians… always gotta be starting shit even when no one asked them a thing.
That’s the reason why Ruski kids are being raised by single mothers while flowers grow out of their fathers’ skulls in the fields of Ukraine.
You are probably one of those Russians who thinks Russia is the first country to destroy the abrams 🤣☠️
They also showed what t90m are in Ukraine 🤣☠️
15 destroyed abrams vs over 2000 destroyed russian tanks
It's mind blowing that you can be so smug when literal thousands of Russian tanks are burnt down to a crisp with their turrets launched into orbit, along with their crews.
Against drones, no tank is immune, soviet tanks however do a much worse job at keeping their crews alive, but clearly you don't care about that.
When will you transfer this tank to Ukraine?
Never. This is M1A2 SEP 2 or 3 i think.
Ukraine has M1A1's.
кто будет фпв дроном по нему бить, постарайтесь бить сразу после выстрела, в момент перезарядки, когда дверь с бк открыта, что бы взрыв шёл в башню )
Ну по крайней мере логично.
Pretty much. That’s a small window though. Loitering with an fpv drone is usually pretty tricky compared to just trying to hit the damn thing any way you can.
Парадный танк
Это не армата которая только на парадах и бывает и то глохнет и ломается 😆
Russia holds massive military victory day parades every year…. T14, t90, t72b3m all more ceremonial than Abrams will ever be
@@aidboo1054 nevertheless, all of these tanks (except for the T-14) are actively participating in the war with Ukraine, unlike the Abrams, half of which simply stand deep in the rear, and the other half die from drones
@@smoozy372 yes… Russian tanks are active in a war between Ukraine and Russia… I’m so surprised…
@@aidboo1054 здорово, что ты признаёшь своё удивление. Странно, конечно, что за два года войны ты ещё не узнал, что абсолютно большинство российских танков составляют современные модели.
Russian shovel: Privet comrade Abrams ready to combust?
😂😂 Clown-yensky IS NOT gonna have money to pay for this junk😂
lmao go back to fortnite retard
Вопрос из России 🇷🇺, а почему в американских танках, заряжающий всегда почему-то чёртов нигга? 😅
This guy is white, look at his wrists man🧍🏻
???
I don’t understand your question
@@warweasel2832 ну ты че дурака валяешь, ты же меня отлично понял
@@warweasel2832 russian thinks you speak russian, use google translate, helps a bunch, one ontop said its a ceremonial tank.
You have fetal alcohol syndrome ?
Destroyable like any other tank. And fairly expensive counting that unfortunate trait
Difference is we haven’t lost 3000 of then in a war against a minor Eastern European country
@@joshhanklon You can't even produce 3000 tanks
@@risbolensky3921 we have 6 to 8 thousand abrams but sources differ alot. You mad its a superior tank to the canon fodder T-72s?
@@joshhanklon CNN told you that? 😆
@@risbolensky3921 RT tell ya the abrams is overpriced junk and not a superior tank in every way? There are no accurate sources on abrams numbers outside of satellite imagery and guess work
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저걸로 어떻게 싸워?
In Iraq twice, Afghanistan, and several other wars.
And when has Korea fought with K2s? Why so many critical Koreans in this comment section? What are you all so salty about?
@@warweasel2832the K2 is an infinitely superior tank, it has far superior upper glacis protection (the Abrams only has 38.1mm RHA steel) and 3rd gen (instead of 2nd gen) thermals
@@Anonymous-is6xu you are 100% basing your entire expectation of main battle tanks off of war thunder gameplay, which I’m sorry to say is not expertise. The optics package on the M1A2 SEP V3 are the most advanced of any armored ground vehicle deployed by any country.
@@warweasel2832 you have absolutely no evidence to support that claim, which is expected for someone who thinks someone that clearly doesn’t have a steam account plays war thunder. I worked at an environmental testing laboratory back in the 70s and we received units from Chrysler and FMC which, along with automotive components, included the upper plate for the preproduction XM1 Abrams. Yes, it is 38.1mm. Yes, this is not sensitive information and it is well known that this is still the case even with the latest Sep v3 variant, there are countless images that prove that the thickness of this plate has not changed. It is also common knowledge that the M1A2 Sep v3 is still using 2nd generation thermal imagers, which is inferior to the 3rd generation Catherine FC thermals from France, the 3rd gen PKT manufactured in Russia, and the 3rd KGPS produced by the ROK. The bottom line is ANY 3rd generation thermal imager is going to outperform a 2nd gen. On top of that, the K2 is one of the only tanks in the world that is equipped with an L-band pulsed Doppler radar system integrated with the fire control system on top of the same rangefinders and sensors like the abrams, which means it’s target tracking ability is far better and can acquire targets at much greater distances. Its time to pick up a book kiddo
@warweasel2832 Abrams tank commander here. Don't let them rile you up, brother. 😎🤙
These tanks are not so tufff when they meet an enimy that can fight back at equal power. Mabey America should go back to fighting 3rd world countrys so they dont loose any tanks.
LOL No machine is invulnerable, and tanks have always been destroyable. But the latest M1s are still dominant with the right support.
you really wanna talk all that shit when russian armor losses are THAT high??? lmao
хватит снимать пустые видео, приезжайте в Украину, привозите тысячи ваших Абрамсов, воюйте против русских фашистов!
Вот тогда и посмотрите, чего эти танки стоит на самом деле.
Сколько вы будете отсиживаться в тылу и трястись от страха от путинских угроз ?????
Putin threats… empty ones… America doesn’t need to waste its time, money or troops by joining in this war full time. neither Russia nor Ukraine is worth that much… also, how long has it taken the worlds second best, oh sorry “best” army in the world to take the 22nd best? 2 years? yeah I’m gonna play the bull crap card here
You want nuclear war? What reason is there to send NATO troops to escalate things to WW3?
The Ukrainians seem good enough to stall your army on their own. They certainly turned a 3 day “special military operation” into a 2 year total nightmare for Putin.
Ты в окопе уже?