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Here we are at last: Chris Harris takes on the might of the Tesla Model S. And it’s not just any Model S, but the Big Daddy: the P100D. First up, a date with a Porsche 911R in a drag race, to test the credentials of Tesla’s lightspeed acceleration.
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You can tell that he is fighting with his inner demons and wanting to hate this car, but he can’t.
Rob Frakes nah, that's just your psychotic fanboy view.
@@xxBlackpspxx Spoken like a real Trump voter.
@Lilburrit00 99 Terrible horrific comment. How you know he didn't stiff suspensions? Because they didn't show it? They could do it anyway. Harris is so experienced car reviewer that I am sure he checked everything before open his mouth. And yes, this car is all about software and Chris Harris is all about driving, so you can't complain that he is not nerding about software.
I like Tesla a lot, especially Model 3, that is my dream car right now. Model S is already old by its platform. Technology is there and over the others, but its 130k pounds and by platform and dynamics its already old and can't compete other luxury brands that costs lot less. Model 3 is up to date in everyway and that's why lot better overall car by money than Model S.
@Lilburrit00 99 but he learnt. All his review cars have different suspension setups and I think he would search that too from there. But what I say is I just assume things and same thing you are doing. It's maybe better not make opinions about things from assumptions.
@Robert Blackford Most P100D owners could care less about the environment....
"Just a 0-120 machine"
Yes Chris, because we're always driving around at 120mph plus on public roads...
I agree bro...who the hell is ever gonna be going faster than that on any public road? the tesla smokes anything in the range of speed that any Sane human being would approach.
Watch what happens when the roadster comes out
@Jonas Jonaitis Also almost as expensive as the Porsche 991 GT3 RS. To be honest i would rather have a Porsche 991 GT3 RS for 1 reason. Track Driving. I don't care if the Tesla is faster on 0 - 60 MPH. But what i know is it definitely won't be beating it on Handling, Cornering, Build Quality and Lap Times. Driving Experience.
Same thing with Tesla Roadster 2020 that doesn't even look like it's built for Race Track driving basing on it's Design that doesn't even have enough Down force design. Only Short 1/4 Mile Straight Line Drag Racing.
@@ShadowRomeo1784 $60,000 difference at least in the price of those two cars, so no. Well, of course, the GT3 RS would be the perfect weapon for that sort of driving, it was purpose-built to be a track car. Do you use a screwdriver to hammer a nail?
jimmybean, you poseurs always bring up the Autobahn or the Nürburgring, pathetic trolls, wtf do you drive? Same to you Jonas, keep off the Tesla channels, I kill trolls for fun.
If you choose the "mommy" option, does it actually take you to your mothers home?
Yeah that's in the next update
autopilot setting route to 'mom's house'
And if your mom is dead then it drives into a tree
kidynamite58 no bro.
@@xaiano794 I really wish there was an option to change the spelling of "mom" to "mum" (shudders...)
the most interesting thing about this video is what a difference the driver makes when drag racing
Actually, the battery was almost flat. 3:34.
@@PyroVesten That was most likely recorded after the race as you see no camera aimed at the dash when you see chris in view, also the acceleration Chris is describing; 130...140... is way faster than what the dash-aimed camera shows
i guarantee that the Tesla would had beaten the Porche again if they hadn't controlled the race.
"what a difference"? Yeah, if the other guy doesn't press the pedal that will make a difference too.
Driver input is a car mod
5:17 damn the whole rear of the car is shaking, really puts into perspective the forces these cars experience...
leberkas 7 its mainly from the car loosing and gaining traction.
leberkas 7 or just shitty euro engineering
British roads. Should try it sometime.
thats what you get with independent rear suspension. good for twisty's, but can't ever replace a live rear end at launches. No matter how much euro snobs pretend it's the greatest thing ever.
It's not really the suspension, but the traction control that causes the shaking.
This guy is literally just a Dad you can never impress 😂
“You can go 120, NAH do better! I need 150”
it's a motoring channel fully based on performance. Not sure what you were expecting.
@@daniel6323 mystic has a point, on the road everything is about 0 to 60mph. its even the king to 120mph, who cares how quickly it goes from 120 to 150?
its a arbitrary test that they knew it would fail at, they have never tested any other car from 0 to 150. i think they should have done handling tests more, because it fails horrbly in those.
Daniel M wouldn’t hurt them to consider that this car was made for the masses, but they decided they wanted fast cars to be in production. It still doesn’t change the fact it’s a Sedan, not a race car.
It doesn’t matter who’s testing it, just understand the facts.
PS Not a Tesla Fanboy, just thought it wasn’t necessary to say it needed to go 150
@@sakuya9017 yeah same, im not into this whole culture of worshiping a company. i think its incredibly stupid.
in saying that, if i had the money i would def buy a model 3
5:08
Why would a damn Sedan go 170? Seriously, once you pay a little bit more attention to what this guy says, it’s clear he’s conflicted.
The 911 is more than twice the price and the TESLA is a four door car. A sedan is trashing a high end, almost a supercar vehicle. Just wait when the Roadster 2020 comes out lol
No one is comparing these two in terms of standstill acceleration. The nature of electric drivetrains favor that battle obviously. But have you ever wondered why there are no Nurburgring vids with Teslas? You can already tell in this video, they have narrow temperature levels for performance and they overheat. You can do as many laps of a track as your tank allows you to in a 911 or other combustion engines, in an electric you'll be lucky to do one. As impressive as Tesla is, they're not solving the universal issue with batteries overheating and losing efficiency by 2020. I'll stick with the combustion engine for a good 10-15 years more.
Kevin Arzola haven’t seen Tesla beat any Porsche on any race track anywhere in in the world.
What’s the Tesla time at the Nurburgring?
Oh yeah that’s right. It only lasted three minutes flat out.
Tesla is only good for one party trick and that’s a short drag race. And it can only do that once then you have to wait thirty minutes for the next one.
And don’t get me started on Tesla build quality.
Panel fit alone is atrocious.
Then there’s resale value.
F1, GT, GT2,GT3,, World endurance Championship,
Ferrari, Porsche, Toyota, Honda. Never seen Tesla win one of these races.
Never seen Tesla in the hills on a Sunday morning.
Seen every other performance car.
Me Ean the track doesn’t matter because it’s not a track car. That’s like saying you’ve never seen the Prius tow more than the F150
Kevin Arzola so how do you wanna grade your beloved Tesla?
The interior is worse than competitors, the quality isn’t great, quality control is garbage. The range is terrible compared to other rivals.
Philip sode the car is a daily driver that just happens to be straight in a line. You pushing it to go against super and beat supercars as well as track performance cars is actually a compliment to the Tesla
This kind of reminds me of when the old top gear reviewed the Camaro, they had it up against some Mercedes that cost 3 or 4 times as much.
This wasnt much of a comparison because if it was they would have compared track times because that Porsche was built for that, and not to go fast in a straight line. It just looked like fun little test against something that is known to be fast, and Im pretty sure entire bloody world knows by now that p100D is very fast from 0-60 and would beat that Porsche easily.
It was an E63, which was 1,5 times as expensive (48 thousand vs 72 thousand) but Richard said "it is twice the car" because have the same engine size (6.2 litre) but it was faster, used less fuel, much more practical and better built. That was slightly different
David García in america you could get a Camaro for $30k, it was a stupid comparison and nobody price shops the two. Do you think anyone went damn I was gonna get the Camaro but I’m gonna spring for the merc now?
Still, the Camaro is crap compared to a Mercedes, so.
You know the p100d cost £130,000 right?
Chris acts like an old man at the atm. Starring at the keypad like it's from outer space.
Yes he seems to be following a script, written by others with vested interests elsewhere
well, he was hired to replace an old man and isn't half as good at it.
He does it with a lot of cars... Like in BMW'S as well...
klemens d have you actually ever watched any other car reviews by Chris? He’s miles ahead of Clarkson when it comes to knowledge of cars plus add in that he’s twice the driver Clarkson is.
Whistling K9, he’s a shill for the ICE industry. if he says the electrics are better, his next job is waiting tables.
I love watching Chris Harris' reviews. It's the road tests that matters to him. He genuinely says how he feels and not just what he wants you to hear. You can see his eyes and face actually compute what's happening when he is behind the wheel. Well done matey!
Richard O'Leary .. Yes and Chris was the first to call out the latest Land Rover Discovery as an ugly car, which it is....very! I admire that level of honesty in this corporate world.
ju kiwi He is a real driver! Find the Top Gear episode where he drives the Aston Martin Vulcan. Then watch his eyes as he absorbs everything that's going on....like a terminator T-800
Richard O'Leary is top gear moving back to sound consumer advice? Hahahaha
Qwerty Qwerty I do like the new GT show but Harris reminds me of when Top Gear was consumer advice with Tiff and Quintin used to do it.
Me too. Chris is a worthy castodian of Top Gear.
Just one thing... When you do the 0-150 test and the next one for that matter, the battery of the Tesla has less than 20% state of charge. In these conditions, the performance will be reduced (and you can see that in the "instrument cluster": there is a warning sign that the power is limited).
The P100D performs at its best when the battery is nearly full (and it consumes a s*load of electrons, too... Mind you, it still consumes less of that than either the i-Pace or the e-tron).
Didn't spot the cluster, but suspected it was a battery protection matter. No different to a phone, light or anything else.
Bla bla bla. Electric cars are still shite in comparison.
"Cooling" (charging) after just TWO drag races.
Only difference was the driver. I suspect the tesla owner was driving slower on purpose or he has no business in top gear.
@@Blood0cean Wait till 2020 lmao
Francis Galiegue well taking a naturally aspired MANUAL Porsche 911 isn't fair at all, wouldn't you think ? If they used a Porsche with a automatic transmission, this drag race would have had an entire different outcome, even up to 120mph, I call double standards that you Tesla Guy's want your cars to be raced in the best conditions, but don't care if the other car you race against is even suited or if it is comparable to it. The 911R as the R suggests is a car for racing and not made for drag strips at all, consider that. There are many Porsches that would beat the Tesla in a drag race, if you take them we can talk about the Tesla being tested in perfect conditions.
@@AOTanoos22 Don't you petrol nerds prefer manual tho ? Kinda dumb to test the vehicule in automatic if 99 % of you will want manual anyway.
I think if you want a concise, entertaining and informative car review from someone who knows their onions, you're hard pushed to beat Chris Harris. I have a lot of respect for the guy.
To be fair, Chris, this is the first serious production electric car in modern history and it’s not even a purpose-built sports car. It’s a family sedan built by Silicon Valley nerds. Porsche has been building cars with IC engines for 87 years and, in their light weight high-end icon of a sports car, they can barely keep up with the nerds. Prepare yourself.
How much do you want to weigh a tesla? Maybe 2 tons when it is very light. A Porsche can weigh under 1400 kg if you do some tuning to it.
@@teasippingguy9316 gut the Tesla and then see which is faster
@@philipmario9809 gut? I think you mean tune, but you can't tune a tesla like put in a bigger turbo or just make it lighter with some carbonfiber parts if you have 1,4 tons of batteries under your ass to move that vehicle (a regular motor weighs about 250 kg
@@teasippingguy9316 who cares, the tesla will beat the porsche even if it only has 4 weels and a motor.
@@teasippingguy9316 by gut i mean remove eveyrthing you dont need from the interior , like seats , belts and so on, this should make the car lighter and probably decrease the 0-100 time
Top gear has always hated Tesla.
Every petrolhead in the world hate tesla, they are not cars but just smarphones with wheels.
Garolfa isn't every car coming out trying to be like Tesla???
we don't hate Tesla we hate Tesla fanboys i actually like electric cars .
That's probably the reason why they charged it to 8% to get power restrictions on that race :/
I'm a petrol head - currently run a 4litre v8 TVR - and I love how the electric car has gained ground in 10 years, the petrol car has had 150 years development - I giuess they will overtake petrol cars in the next 10 years for everyday motoring leaving all that petrol available to drive my TVR at the weekend
I’m a huge Porsche fan but god he has to be more objective. Comparing a 100k salon to a top of the line sports car in acceleration? And when things don’t work out increase the test to 150? I doubt anyone would need that speed in their commute, and Tesla however fast a car wasn’t meant to be a racer. It’s capable, but it’s not what it’s built for. Top Gear has a history of biases against Tesla and electric cars in general but please do try harder to make a just a bit more subtle.
It was all in good fun, did he look serious to you?
Same thing with Porsche 911R. It clearly isn't built for only short drag races. it's built for driving experience such as handling corners at a race track. A Tesla can't do that. They overheat and goes to limp mode to prevent Battery damage due to overheating.
What he was pointing out with this is, that the Tesla is not built for top speed.
@@ShadowRomeo1784 then don't use the ludicrous mode just use sport. It won't be as fast but still works in what it was designed to be. a gaddamn FAMILY car
@@ILFforever A Family car with near 800 HP and 1000 NM of Torque. Just because it has 4 doors doesn't mean it is a family car. It's like saying a highly modified 4 Door Drag Cars you see on 1/4 Mile Tracks are family cars too.
Some cheap leather? Chris, you've spent too much time in supercars on your gorgeous alcantara. Most of us are still repping second/third-owner piss-stained cloth XD
He's comparing it to other cars with the same price though. In a car that expensive there shouldn't be "cheap leather"
@@bjorntenjepersson4999 its because its "vegan leather"
Dont forget in the UK a lot of the cost of this car is tax. A lot of these design and material choices make much more sense when 40% cheaper, i.e. in the US
The Model S with Ludicrous mode is $116,000.
While that is a lot, it’s way less than most other supercars.
I don't even have a car
Only good to 125mph? Lol It's a family car, not a supercar Porsche 911R. That's like comparing a BMW S1000R to a Goldwing and detracting the Goldwing for beating the BMW in the 1/4 mile. Apples to Oranges. Now can the Porsche hold 5 adults and a large amount of luggage in the back and auto-drive itself? No. I'm not even into Tesla, but we are going to be able to thank them for pushing other manufacturers to step up their game in even just a few short years. Good for them. Meanwhile, I'll still be saving for the 918. :P
Brent Anthony p1 is faster and cooler. Js
Skyler Blizard 918 has a faster Nurburgring lap time.
Brent Anthony yeah ,it also is awd and electric so it produces max torque instantly. It loses power at the higher rpms where the "conventional" petrol cars destroy it. A complete fest of useless numbers over actual performance,just to lure in all the clueless idiots that judge a car from its brochure. Still though ,i appreciate its excistence as something different that will actually keep the internal combustion engine alive if you think about it.
125mph is absolutely pathetic for having 500-700hp or so. A 90's Corolla can do that.
Brent Anthony it can do like two rides on 0-120 before 10min circles for cooling.
At this point I think you can buy e63 wagon And it will be fast everytime, not after 10buttons
My oh my I’ve never really liked Tesla.. but I had the privilege of riding in a Tesla Model S 90d a few days ago.. holy crap these things are no joke.. it was fast as hell. Can’t imagine the 100d
3:03 It's a one trick pony? Oh sure Chris,
It can only run a drag race, seats 5 people, can carry a ton of luggage, extremely safe, drives itself, parks itself and receives updates over the internet.
Yeah but the e63s estate costs less, sounds amazing, has just as much... if not more cargo room, can park itself, partial autopilot that DOESN'T KILL YOU and will also seat 5 people comfortably and is way faster in the long run. Weird arguement if you ask me
and never ever needs a service interval.
@@dzerres fair point
@@hazzaknox1069 the e63s estate burns gasoline. That has to stop. The world is on fire - well, large sections of it are, and the oceans are heating up at an alarming rate. Take this seriously.
Colin Fox cars aren’t the problem. It’s the factories
It's so weird seeing a car accelerating so fast without hearing a sound😂🧐🤔
The Model S is also a 5-seater family sedan, that weighs over 4,900lbs.
Can't wait to see what they have to complain about when the Roadster 2.0 comes out.
James Bevins Since its American, they will try hard to find something to complain about.
If it does the Nurburgring track in 6min 30sec that'll get their attention big time.
Expensive probably
James Bevins That will be game over.
It's electric and doesn't have engine sound is all the reason a person needs to hate it
Only a 0-120 machine, well, one that can fit 5+2 people and has huge storage and has not the main goal of being fast.
If you compare sports cars against sports cars then wait for the roadster...
And it only takes yout 10 minutes to cool down or heat up the batterie and press 10 buttons until you are ready to go.
Only if you want the max performance which it isn't really designed to do. Its more of a party trick, you don't have to do all that crap to drive it normally. I would be interested to see the performance figures for it in "regular mode" or whatever they are calling the mode that gets decent range and doesn't damage the machinery.
Beats super cars and hyper cars to 100mph, beats most if not all luxury vehicles for NVH and ease of driving, matches or beats most family saloons for seating and luggage room. But it's not got an ICE so it sucks, apparently!... I'm a big fan of ICE, but I'm not dumb enough to think that they have any future in mass produced vehicles. They WILL be relegated to the purely enthusiast performance cars, and that's a good thing!
If you can use a smart phone, you can surely use the Tesla's screen.
David Hill it's not moot if it matters to buyers
@ 3.03 "One trick pony" Really? It's pretty much the antithesis of that. Five seats, quiet, trunk, and faster than almost anything on the road.
how is having seats, a trunk and being quiet a trick? i mean an m5 has all of those things and its quiet for highway driving etc, not as quiet obviously?
@@Fragz96 Not as fast as the Tesla
@@gotham61 thats its 1 and only trick though, is its 0-100 as i said. Take both around a track and the m5 will win. My point is how is having 5 seats, a trunk and being quiet also a trick. They're not and so it is just a 1 trick pony
@@Fragz96 I guess you're not very familiar with English idioms. "One trick pony" implies that the car can only do one thing well. The Tesla is pretty much the exact opposite of that. In addition to beating pretty much anything off the line, unlike most supercars, it can carry you and your family and luggage on holiday in comfort, or take you to the Home Depot to pick up five 15 pound bags of charcoal briquettes for your barbecue. It's is not, and was never intended to be, a sports car.
gotham61 that’s exactly what he’s arguing
THIS PROGRAM WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BY: SHELL CORPORATION
Moneyandtime Freedom I can guarantee you that Chris was not told to say by Shell. That’s a conspiracy theory.
@@mercurion1000 how are you gonna guarantee that ? do you have access to their meetings ?
Choice777 smh
@mercurion1000 how are you guarantee something like that?
fake news
I love how people get all worked up about Teslas racing supercars. You guys do realize that the Model S is not meant for racing? It's a luxury electric car that happens to be able to run like hell because of its great engineering. You wanted racing cars, Musk is giving you racing cars. The new Roadster will demolish every car ever made.
Absolutely a great point. I wish I said that !!!
Well said.
LOL😂😂😂 These guys will be in tears when the Roadster come out.
For the record the way an electric motor works just means it spins up quicker and will be faster off the line than an equivalent petrol car. Its nothing especially unique about Tesla that makes their cars have this crazy fast acceleration, its the same with all electric cars to some extent. Even something like an i3, not at all built for speed, has this to some extent.
75% of people can't afford most high performance cars.
One of Top Gear's main funder is Shell so they try there hardest to hate on it. I drive one and it beats fossil fuel cars in all catagoties, handling, braking, steering and luxury (it's quiet). They said cheap leather but it's not even leather it's polyurethane which feels amazing and is much more durable. Can't for there video on the new Roadster, hopefully they grow some sense and realize electric cars are the future.
Sure, just the thing to cross country with. What with the charging stations everywhere. Which are powered by coal fired power stations. Oh wait, that's right - there are not charging stations everywhere. And it takes 5 minutes to fill a gas tank. And a lot longer to full charge a 4 door electric forklift truck.
That said, I can count the amount of times I have supercharged my tesla on two hands. Usually I plug it in as I arrive home at night, and wake up to a full battery (this process takes 30 sec if you're really slow). I have a 22kW charger at home, so just 5 hours of charging leaves me with a full battery (if it's completely flat). Haven't needed service in the 88000km of road I've driven, can't really say the same for my old car. Had a volkswagen which cost me a fortune in repairs, due to a broken DSG gearbox.
Also I live in Denmark, making that old "coal fired power stations" argument absolute rubbish.
Yes it's not perfect, cars have flaws, but it's so much better than anything else I have driven. :)
yeah honestly, electric cars make so much more sense for every day life, who drives over 300 mile every day? not many. Never have to go to smelly crowded gas station, just plug it in when you get home and fill it up cheaply.
producing and transporting electricity is more efficient than producing and transporting gasoline all over the country. much less energy is wasted.
Gasoline is piped around the country. And the range of a Tesla varies SOLELY on how you drive it. Hit the go pedal one to many times and your rage is rapidly lowered. Again - speak to ANY Tesla owner in a large city about their Range Anxiety. Many people drive 150 miles or more in a day - many of those miles are far from any charging station and it takes 5 minutes to fill a gas tank - not so much for recharging a battery powered car. The car is a novelty at best, and an expensive cheaply made novelty at that. When not in performance mode, the Tesla is just big heavy Prius.
haha piped around the country? no. they're piped to big storage tanks, then tankers bring them to gas stations. i see my local gas station get a big tanker every week. smells lovely.
Most people don't drive 150 miles or more in a day, if you go to the federal highway administrations website and locate their data on actual drivers: www.fhwa.dot.gov/ohim/onh00/bar8.html then you'll realize that people only drive about 36 miles per day on average. so just charge it at home every night and forget about it; use power chargers on long trips when needed. most Tesla owners get over their so called "range anxiety".
the base teslas are pretty quick in the standard driving mode, i've seen it and felt it, don't even compare them to a prius lol
you're simply scared of the future and whats to come, don't worry you'll have no choice soon enough :D
"and now I'm doing a 170, he can't do that" 😂 rekt
this didnt age well... top speed of the plaid is 210mph
3:40 - Not being overtaken until you're travelling 150 mph is not the same as reaching 150 mph first. The 911 was faster to all speeds greater than 110 mph, because that's where it started catching up.
Finally someone with some sense!
Ok but still lost lmao
@@flavioa6351 I think we’ve found a member of the other group
@@flavioa6351 Agreed, the Porsche still lost.
Coming back to this video again three years later.. glad someone had a common science sense. I made a similar comment (three years ago) .. that the 911 was faster than the Tesla when the Tesla hit 150 MPH. Apparently people don't get that. .. SMH..
Thirteen minutes of a guy trying and trying and trying really hard to write a bad review about Tesla. And failing.
RAINE not used to British pessimism huh
Haha, sadly I'm a Brit myself. I just thought they might have learned their lesson from Jeremy Clarkson's old infamous Tesla review.
It was so weird to watch. He was amazed by the acceleration but then on the next try it suddenly wasnt as good. Its so obvious that is just bias bullshit.
or maybe, just maybe, accelleration isnt everything?
This is exactly it! And concluded after speeding down a windy bumpy road that the car made his passenger's sick... Could it be they've never driven passengers that fast down the road before?
When patrol fanboys want to deny the future they change the goal posts. "0 to 100 mph doesn't matter anymore it has to be 0 to 150 mph!"
0-to-150mph was a thing long before EVs made a splash. The future is not EVs. The future is ICE and EVs. ICE future is going to stay especially with CNG and hydrogen fuels making more gains.
Krytern UK it still beat the 911 all the way to 150mph with almost no charge in the battery. What a bunch of losers!
alkhan2
Actually it lost at 111mph.
Even with with a fully charged battery, it will still lose a 0-150mph drag race to a 911.
The folks at Motortrend analyzed the Telsa's acceleration curve, and yes it's rate of acceleration was slowing down and lost a full 1g of acceleration in 4 seconds.
So even in that famed 2.3 sec 0-60 run, it was already slowing down 0.5 seconds after launch.
No matter. The new Tesla Roadster will do 0-250 quicker than anything else. Even with a hundred year headstart ICE can't win.
That depends on how much progress Panasonic has made in increasing the energy density of their batteries.
Cannot wait to see him Drive the Plaid +
I know right.
Love how they run it down to very low battery power so it has limited power delivery
Right cus low petrol runs slower too... wait it doesn't?
Electric is still shite.
"Cooling" (charging) after 2 drag races from a sports car?
Pathetic.
@@Blood0cean it's not a sports car! Wait for roadster!
@@Blood0cean Gonna give you some hate: There is no advantage of owning a combustion engine car. NOT a SINGLE ONE.
@@janjamscikov3937 well, say, if I didn't want to spend money on a backyard pool... And I was near the beach... Then...
@@janjamscikov3937 weight, handling, heat soaking, road trips that don't force a 30 minute - hour long stop. The ability to tune your car how you want it, ability to modify your car. I can go on if you want man, but they aren't there yet. And those are just objective things, subjectively not being able to drive a manual for me, but I'm sure they will sort something out like the jesko in the next couple of years.
Why do people always forget that model s is not just a performance car. It can seat 5 people with a crap load of luggage. The Porsche is first and foremost a performance car.
Parth Upmanyu because Tesla fanboys choose to compare them with performance cars when's it suits them. Just like Musk calling the S a rival to the S Class to suit sales figures
07Corcaigh Its a rival to the S Class because they are in the same market. Actually, the Tesla Model S is surpassing S Class sales, crazy as it may sound. I noticed more people against Tesla compare it to a performance car, not the other way around
Adnan Alladin..no they not the s class is way ahead in sales
It is a performance car. It's an electric muscle car to be precise. Something like a Charger Hellcar. Cheap car with oversized engine.
@Adnan Alladin
Model S is not S-class competitor. It's way too cheaply build to be one.
sic22l Its in the same market. Regardless of how u feel on the build quality it is still in the luxury sedan market
Did Top Gear not script a breakdown this time?
Well, not exactly but the bias against electric is still there
They talked as much trash about ti as they could.. not much.
You Tesla fangirls just refuse to admit any faults with Teslas huh? Did you even watch the video. He praised it and respected it for it's initial acceleration.
Ha, well given all the videos out there showing Tesla owners and the problems they have with their cars, can you really tell if they staged it or not?
Loui Coleman let's sue the bbc
Kk
I am both a top gear fan AND a tesla fan, which some people seem to think is heresy. to all the annoying tesla fanboys: own up to the fact that it isn`t perfect and there are problems with it! to all the tesla haters: own up to the fact that it does many things better than all your beloved gas guzzlers! it is greener on every energy grid, it is incredible at the stoplights by beating bugattis to 60, it has superior storage space, but it also does have a pretty cheap interior and it doens`t cope with the winter as well as gas cars, and .... should I go on? jeez why are there so many childish imbecils on both sides of this arument who won`t listen to the other side!
The battery was literally dead before he started.
dumbasses should have charged it smh
You say 'literally dead', but I don't think you know what that means.
And? It depletes fast anyway. No repetitive top figures.
Have you ever heard of editing?
@@vegardpig8634 Took too long time recharging. Couldn't wait.
3:26 its a lot better when it has 85% or more battery, just sayin..
@@vangledosh fun fact, a ice car with 5% left in the tank would be as fast or faster, you all preach tesla and refuse to look at the shortcomings
@@TristanSilverwood Because it weighs 30 kg less? Oh come on, that's irrelevant. But battery voltage is VERY relevant. A charged Tesla will noticably beat an empty one. Same goes for the Porsche Taycan.
Really hope we get to see him drive the Tesla roadster someday. That thing is insane.
1.9 secs actually
wait till it comes out and see not to mention there be faster cars still by 2020
A-K that 4 second figure was 100 MILES PER HOUR which is 160kph.
So yes, 0-160kph in 4 seconds is insane.
WOULDN'T YOU RATHER DRIVE IT YOURSELF?
Robert Blackford you could say the exact same thing about a gas vehicle
So he had to do 150mph to beat the car that does 400miles for £25 and has space for the family?
Odd.
He really hates Tesla, he'll only be driving electrics in 5 years maybe he'll hate his job :D
Stephen Rowe And how much time does that 400 mile drive take? Or the Re-charging afterwards aswell.
Sad actually, they ran it with a depleted battery. The Model S would have pulled ahead otherwise.
Alberto Klocker The Tesla over-heated aswell 😂🤣😂🤣
@FrontRowe you electric fan boys really are a bunch of wankers
Wait a minute.
The Tesla Model S 100D is not cheap, but you can buy 5 of them or so for one 911 R.
Considering that despite the price difference, the Model S beats the 911 R on all counts except for the 150 mph test with experienced driver, that is quite interesting, isn't it ?
Also, that Tesla has almost 300hp more than the 911
M Heisenberg the roadster 2020’s 1.9s is a conservative time. Zombie 222s aren’t in mass production. They won’t be as available as the roadster 2020 will be.
I actually wish they compared it to an M5 competition. Much more in-line on price and type of car.
Ouch, other car companies are making electric cars now. Gas are running out, people who hate electric cars will drive one or their kids will drive one
Rob Dekker what I find interesting is how people only look at the 0-60 time. There are infinitely more factors to consider when determining which is not only the faster, but better car.
This should have been tested on the motorway. One of the things that has taken me by total surprise is how insanely pleasant it is to overtake on the motorway when you have all of the power available right away.
It's a motorway / highway machine, it just chews up the miles and I'm literally more rested when i arrive at my destination, than when i entered the car. Autopilot works great on the motorway, you just sit there basically.
Harris is a spectacular driver, he has a second sense of feel for any car he sits in that most drivers (even pro's) don't have. He is a true enthusiast who has learned to adopt his wide scope of driving skills to anything he gets his hands on and would give any of the old presenters a run around any day. My most respected car show presenter nowadays. 10/10
stop yapping old man and go to bed
I'm dissapointed no mention of the balance of the car or the roadholding. i know its a heavy car, but the perfect weight distribution and double wishbone suspension (good camber curves) make for a nice drivers car. I think tesla's suspension tuner is a genius.
they need good suspension and 20-22 inch wheels because tesla are very heavy cars
Tuner is lotus.
You can't fight physics. That's like expecting an fat person to beat Usain Bolt just because the fat guy is wearing the world's most high tech track suit and running shoes. Same problem the Veyron had.
First bit is like me explaining how to send a Whatsapp mesaage to my grandma.
Love Chris Harris but honestly, wait for the Tesla Roadster. This isn't really a sports car. It's a 4 door family saloon that munches hypercars. The roaster is Tesla's sports car.
...but we just saw how 911R munched it and how that Tesla is embarrassingly struggled to reach 150mph and now it had to cook the batteries first and how they overcooked shorty after.
I wonder how will tesla super cars will be
dash3dot Buddy the 911 has decades of engineering perfection behind it. Tesla has just began spreading it's wings. There was a time when electric cars even struggled to reach 60 mph. This Tesla car does 60 mph in 2.3 secs. Wait for what more stuff Elon Musk pulls out of his hat. Tesla is already making a lot of loud supercars irrelevant and they havn't even released a proper racing car yet. So I would choose my words carefully while judging a Tesla. They are doing revolutionary stuff.
@@rivostain There is absolutely NOTHING revolutionary in their cars. 100+ years old tech in a modern materials gravy. Wake up.
dash3dot It's better to keep your mouth shut than making a stupid comment and letting the world know of your stupidity. So 100 years back...there were electric cars that could do 0-60 mph in 2.3 secs and with that big range?
The Porsche's gearbox won, not the internal combustion engine.
MuitoDaora it's a manual, not PDK
Abhishek Shinde i think it’s the fact that a Porsche has a gearbox is what MuitoDaora meant. If a tesla had a gearbox, game over. Supposedly the new roadster may have a gearbox, that would be sick
MuitoDaora The R is a manual. Currently combustion engines are better once you get beyond the first 100mph.
MuitoDaora I.C.E is 100% real no fake engineering work, and that Tesla guys are lazy cuz they dont have the balls to build one!
Quacktics are Go forgive me if I’m wrong, but I think that’s only because tesla decided they didn’t need to include a gearbox with the car
On dear, the Tesla can beat every hypercar only to 120. I guess they'd better go back to the drawing board then. /sarcasm
Not trying to be a smartass, but the 911 R is a sportscar.
@@ajw1045 exactly - beyond the launch from ~0-40 mph, the Tesla can barely hang with a 400 horsepower car. This car can't hang with the big boys.
It's not meant to be a hypercar. Also: when you're out driving these machines, were can you go beyond 120 mph / 190 kph? That's going to be either Autobahn or circuit (and Tesla's HATE the track lol).
911r isnt even a super car it's a great car but no super car any arial atom could blow away the tesla and i wouldnt even call that a hyper car
@@xSwaghettiYolonesEx Have you? Numpty
As much as i love American cars this is the best specimen of American automobile technology yet
I'm happy with that lol
If you'd have to have one single car, it really is unbeatable. Nothing is as practical, comfortable and fast at the same time.
The veyron is
Lineage2Ertheia yes but that car is 1.5 million dollars
@@Lineage2ErtheiaPvP the Veyron's not as practical as an Model S.
Audi RS4/6 but yes i agree
if you have a car that runs out of battery faster than it charges, unless you want to take the bus the tesla cannot be your only car.
check out 3:27 -- they did the drag race when the Tesla's battery was at frickin 8% and it still blew the doors off that Porsche. Your bias is showing, guys.
and it's not like they ran the battery down driving it aggressive -- a quarter mile blast at full throttle only uses about 2% of the battery.
They did overheat it though. Let's face it, in the model S that mode is a gimmick, not practical. I'll be interested to see how they combat the issue of battery temp in the new roadster.
do you mean warm the batteries? that only gets you a tenth of a second. it's still 2.5 seconds 0-60 from any random stoplight with no warning. it will still, without warming the battery, blow away every other car on the road.
Dan Reynolds no I was talking about the runs overheating the batteries and the car going into limp mode until they cool back down. I’m sure Tesla is addressing it in the roadster, just curious how many heat exchangers it will need
where do they say it went into limp mode?
am i the only one who thinks chris was trying to be as negative as possible in the nicest way? come on it is a family car with no cost of maintenance and one that be recharged and used almost infinitely, it is smarter than any other car, has more space than any car and weighs as much as a 7 series. Also people from EU and USA might not know this but the cost of maintenance of a german or italian luxury car in other countries is tremendous. And tesla completely eliminates those costs.
"no cost of maintenance" isn't true, when you take a car for a service they don't only look at the engine. This car will chew through brakes and tyres with all that weight, the suspension will also have a hard time. I also wonder how long the battery pack will actually last. Recharged and reused almost infinitely in reality just isn't going to happen.
These lithium batteries have a 15 shelf life.
regenerative braking
Barry Gizzard , look into what regenerative braking is. It's the same thing that helps bring down the maintenance costs on the Tesla Semi.
Ok, maybe it wont chew through the brakes :)
And 2 years later, he loves he model 3 performance
So much so that he bought one after that review.
you can tell he's trying not to like but he can't help it
Yea totally 12:12
He prefers the 911. Who wants to drive a laptop on wheels? Nerds.
@Ron Samba The Tesla isn't any "greener" than the Porsche. Just because it doesn't drink gasoline when driving doesn't mean it's more green.
There's FAR more pollution in making an electric car over an ICE car.
And *most* of the power for charging an electric car comes from polluting power stations.
For now in 2019, and maybe a few years onward, the ICE is greener.
Not forever though.
@@sortaanonymouslaex9564 Everything you just said was completely wrong
@@ktfjulien SortaAnonymous Alex
is right. Batteries are so expensive because it takes massive lot of cheap dirty energy to produce from mine to finished product.
My wife drives a Model S 75D and it is more than quick enough for average person. We just had the free upgrade installed that dropped the 0-60 times from 5.2 to 4.2 sec and it feels incredibly quick. I can't imagine 2.3 seconds.
When she was shopping for a new car I pushed her towards the A6 and the S90 because they just seemed more luxurious and I thought that was what was most important to her. She chose the Tesla because she likes tech and she liked the simple design of the interior. She hated all of the buttons in the Audi's. I don't really like the giant screen because I can't find the item I need to touch without looking for more than a few seconds. Most things require two separate touches to select the item and then to perform the function. She drives it more so she is use to the way it works. Her favorite feature is getting home and plugging in without ever having to go to a gas station again. (And she works in the oil industry).
It drives just fine for a large sedan. It's not a sports car but is plenty fun to drive. The Autopilot is pretty good now and is getting better with each over the air update. (It's still just a glorified cruise control but at some point it could be so much more.)
I think Chris was a little harsh there at the end. I've never experienced any uneasiness in regards to wavy roads but maybe just a bit for passengers during hard surprise accelerations.
Yeah, I don't see why anyone pays the huge premium for the Tesla performance models when the 'non-performance' models still beat many (most?) sports cars 0-60. You're still paying at least £70,000 but given what you actually get for that, it seems like a decent investment for the upper-middle classes. Whereas paying almost double that price for the top-of-the-range seems like the kind of thing only a millionaire should do.
Last time I was this early, Clarkson was driving the Roadster.
There is a white one of these lives around the corner from me and I have to say everytime I see it I am captivated by how it oozes charisma. And I am a petrol head but if cost was no issue would choose one over most cars especially after this review 👍
So much for objective journalism
yea i mean if a 4-door sedan can only beat a 2-door super(expensive)car from 0-120mph, that's no good. especially given that the UK which is TopGear's home has a max speed limit of 70mph, so all those lamborghini's and porsche's will just keep overtaking you at 120mph. /sarcasm
What's the DougScore ???
i know there will be a doug score comment in here mate lol
Guy Incognito so what's the Doug score is how your supposed to do it.
Skyler Blizard Well, since I started it I am allowed to alter it however I please! 😉👍
I got an advert from the grand tour on this 😂
Coureur i got a pervert:(
I don't know why you find this surprising and/or funny. You do know how advertisement works, right?
Feb. 2020
Tesla Roadster vs ...pretty much anything else,
“Well, that’s that.” 😂😂😭😂😭😭😂😂😭
The roadster might just be the most overhyped white good the world has ever seen
I think people really forget that the Tesla was designed specifically to leverage the massive RPM range of the motor. By not having gears a LOT of otherwise needed hardware can be left out (that means it isn't there to wear out and cost time and money down the line). The reason it slows down at the higher speeds is because the motor is leaving it's power band, the reason it's so fast off the line is because it's starting in a high gear ratio and taking advantage of that electric torque.
So when Chris says the ICE comes good at speeds over 120mph, he really means the transmission.
Dat Avantime!
No scripted break down?
Scott Jackson lol i get it
Hahha
No, if you want those you have to follow the dinosaurs to Grand Tour (better hurry though since Amazon is cancelling it).
+PanzerKami They ... they aren't. But regardless, how insecure do you have to be to feel the need to hate a programme which used to dislike a brand you like 10 years ago?
That never happened. Tesla lost in court you dick
You cant be this bias in the modern era of the internet. People know what your doing. Tesla is the future, and their's nothing top gear can do about it.
It is so easy to say somebody is biased just because someone think different way. Nobody really look and think "why he have that opinion?". Chris Harris is a race driver and I understand why he thinks like that. He is impressed about acceleration, but other way its really limited dynamical and even technology is step above, platform is already old.
Maybe not Tesla specifically, but alternative fuel cars for sure.
If a company uses youtube influencer advertising, then its Tesla. I suspect Chris also of being a bit "influenced" by Tesla, as he not a second mentioned the poor range when driving fast.
Chris, “I slightly ignore the whole Tesla thing because it scares me” @25 sec. Chris needs his mommy...
weizenobst müsli, Hey all cars are like that. Bugatti gets 40 miles per tank, 22 gallons going 250 mph. That’s because the wind resistance is squared the faster you go. Try holding your arm straight outside the window at 120mph, you can’t.
I'm a huge Porsche fan, but I want Chris to do this comparison again with the Tesla Roadster when it is released.
Still waiting huh?
Lmao roadster isn’t coming any time soon. The top spec spacex package of the roadster is rumoured to do 0-100 in 1.1 seconds though 😳
@@minder01 LoL. Not on time of course. :D
@@nikolaaa5988 Nope. Not known for being punctual in manufacturing. lol
@@foggyblues13 Tesla roadster 0-60mph: 5 years and counting.
The bias is unbelievable. Top gear still can't believe Tesla still lives :D
Well it's a review everything is biased on the person reviewing it.
just shows your bias
Kracus Omniax if you're loving creature and you think you're biased.
Chris, I love your videos but you are ignorant of the properties of an electric car in this segment. I would have hoped you did a little more research. It doesn't look like you ever activated launch mode which is what enables an extra 100 Nm+ of torque in the low end and the whole reason for preconditioning the battery. It's designed for single runs at a time - hence the narrow temperature operating point. If you had left the pre-heating off, you could have done multiple normal runs back to back without such strict temperature control. Also, in your 0-150mph run the cluster shows 68 miles of range. With the pack that low on charge, power is severely limited above 60mph. If you repeated that run at full charge the 911R would lose by an aircraft carrier length.
wow. our future transportation looks so complicated.
I agree with u 100 percent. Top Gear has no idea about electric car in general. Let alone on how to maximize Tesla performance.
Wan, it's "complicated" if you want every bit of power out of it. Same with most hypercars etc. They all have launch modes etc., some even have double keys for max speed.
So she can only win when he tummy is full? Fascinating.
And the tesla will continuously get murderd by the Porsche at any high speed acceleration..We dont even need a noble Porsche..it could even be rape by a Nissan lol...its just for a few seconds thanks to some stupid bunch of battery pack that are supposed to run some laptops..nobodys gonna call that shit a car lol..its just a battery pack tied on to 4 wheels lol..it should drag race with a vacuum cleaner or an iphone charger
The crew got motion sickness because they were probably not looking out the windows. When range is no longer and issue there will be not reason not to drive an EV.
fun? sound? weight? I'll gladly drive an EV to work, but please let me have my Miata for the weekends :)
@@chuckyfox9284 teslas are more fun for me, the g forces are insane
"Traffic light Grand Prix." Love it.
Point of contention: if the Porsche is gaining when you hit 150, then you weren't the "first to 150".
If you hit 150 before the Porsche, it doesn't matter if it's gaining, you reached there first.
But both are awesome cars in their segment.
Rui Romao you can't have hit a a certain top speed before another car if the other car is gaining on you. How would it be gaining if you were going faster?
But the tesla didn't hit 150 first. When the tesla hit 150, the porche was already going faster than 150, hence it was gaining on the tesla. If the race was for distance, the tesla would have won, but the race was to a certain speed, which the porche hit first
Came here to say this
Also the Tesla was low and the battery charge , the car is much slower with less than 50% of charge.
I have a model S and have driven it for 60K miles all over Europe. I also have a BMW 850 and Mercedes E300., which have been sitting on the drive for 18 months. I don't care if he doesn't like it or if top gear resist or slam it as I know the truth. In fact I want Top Gear to hate it so I can have the smugness all to myself.
I have a Chevy Bolt EV and I'm insufferably smug.
It is a personal opinion. I would not drive a Tesla because I don't get the feeling of driving a car.
@@allenho2778You have not driven one so how do you know what it feels like?
5:18 Looks like the 9.11 is falling apart out back. The Model S needs to be fully charged to show its full speed and obviously they failed with that here "68mi range bottom left" 3:27 , they are literally trying to kill the P100D's battery, how ridiculous. Even like that it destroys the 9.11.
911 isn't a date for Porsche ;)
Many cars flex and have play like that. From mustangs to lambos to Agera RS's. I hate them but look at the 1st generation of GTRs lol hoods flying off left and right.
High HP drag cars can twist their frames due to the force.
Dr D what kind of car becomes less powerful as it runs out of juice? Be it petrol or electricity any car that loses power is retarded
@@TristanSilverwood Think of it as a built in battery saving mode.
Gaming Hoot can you turn off this “battery saving mode” if not it’s retarded, if you can turn it off fair enough
That drag race where Chris reeled the Tesla in essentially proves that Chris is one HELL of a driver
9:08 ... but which steering setting did you have it on?
12:24 ... but which suspension setting did you have it on?
none of that is going to change anything...
the suspension setting doesn't change much but the steering setting surprisingly changes the feel dramatically
No, it doesn't, there is no feedback at all at any setting.
@@farhanbillah5423 how the fuck would u know u don't own one. U don't know anyone that does.
The sound of the porsche 😍
felix Laprise I have a porch
P O R S C H E
P O R S C H E
S O U N D
The sound of pork
Chris was almost airborne at 150mph. The guy was like literally paddle shifting with the traditional stick gear in the 911 R, beating Tesla at the last. The guy is a legend!
I mean the Tesla is always at the first gear (or none), Chris was changing gears many times like speed multiplier to beat Tesla at the end.
Why does it look more conventional? Rule number one of selling a product: If you’re selling something new (innovation/sci-fi) you have to make it familiar, if you’re selling something familiar you have to make it new
i just get the feeling he doesnt want to like it. could be wrong.
atheosxgaming It's not a drivers car, 1 trick drag monster.
I kinda get that feeling too, much as I love Chris. And technically, sports cars are the one trick ponies, the Tesla can match them on the drag strip and still function as an everyday car, that's two tricks at least.
I don’t the show but all I can say is that review is not objective at all. The Tesla is the best sedan, hands down
For 130 grand, it's also in a weird segment of the market. And they depreciate like rocks.
They just need to improve the interior on it
Here's a thought. Since we are comparing two cars with two completely different market segments and two different design goals, let's now take the two cars and give them to a family of 4 with the instructions to get the kids to school, do the grocery shopping, get the kids to cheerleading, soccer, band, etc. practices, and do it every day for a month.After all...fair is fair.
Dan Detweiler To be fair to the review, the internet isn't exactly on fire with the cargo capacity specs.
Hype over Tesla is based in performance first and foremost. That's what they prefaced in this video and that's what they reviewed.
clutchthepearls That might be the hype of some but people are buying them as utility family sedans. That is their market segment. Super car aficionados aren't the one's forking out the money for Model S for the most part.
so youre honestly gonna argue that a 180k$ car is an everyday family car? Lol ok
Dan Detweiler And yet, the talk is all about the performance. Again, that talk is what they prefaced in this review and what they reviewed.
But again, I say that the "talk" isn't what is buying the cars, nor is it the target market for the car. Apples to apples...
3:27 There's an exclamation on the dash stating you don't have full power unless you're over 50% charge and you still beat the Porsche to 150mph
Chris Harris has brought my respect back to top gear. I love the three, but I now have two great car shows to watch now. Two is always better than one👏🏻
it should be Tesla Model S P100D VS Porsche Panamera
Ord!nary Guy no....... vs 911 turbo s
I think the whole point of the drag race was something as digital as possible (Tesla) vs something as analog as possible (manual 911).
I don't think the Panamera comes with a stick shift.
Ord!nary Guy
Agree 100%.
@sub93h i see your point but I think they should have pined it against another car that seats 5 people like the tesla. 911 r only seats 2 and its pretty much a race car for the road which isnt what the tesla is. The model S is trying to be the best sedan. im sure they could have found a gas-powered manual 4 door with similar specs to Panamera so both cars would have similar pros and cons in everything except the motor and the way it creates and delivers power. A true Gasoline vs Electricity test you know? i guess that wasnt what they were going for here
Ord!nary Guy no what about Tesla Roadster vs Porsche Panemera
Misleading knock to the Model S performance in this review. The Model S had a low state of charge, and was limiting power output to almost 50% (only ~250kw) from them repeatedly thrashing it down the dragway. Look at the energy meter on the dashboard at 3:34. If you go over to Dragtimes UA-cam channel, they have a video that shows the performance drop off related to state of charge for the Model S. If the Model S had anything close to a full charge, and hadn't been overheated, it would crush the 911R even to 155 MPH... Otherwise it was a good review.
Nicholas Samuels You just pointed out the biggest problem with electric dishwasher...
+iHeart GT86 {KatyCat} he just pointed out that they are cheating. It is well-known fact that Tesla does not run at 100% when the battery is low. It is called batery saving mode. It happened not the first time and top gears one of the main sponsors are Shell
Nicholas Samuels let’s ban top gear. They’re not that smart of evaluators anyway. Totally biased. Screw them!
That could’ve just been any clip or take they filmed during their time with the car. The takes and scenes arent necessarily in the order that they were filmed.
I think it’s just the editing. I don’t think the model s would be able to hold off the 911r till 130mph with just 250kw...
2:17 ohhh!! love that noise from 911 and then how Tesla carries on in silences
Bunch of Tesla fanboys in the comments. Chris is the GOAT.
*You say 0 to 150 mph is important in these days? Is it?*
*I'm sure it is not and here is why:* Where in the world are you allowed to drive that fast? in Germany and nowhere else. what really matters in real life is 40 to 70 mph.
0-60 is and people do like to go to track days
Intelligent Bot u dont decide what is important
Tigerkitty
Yes, i don't decide what is relevant. But based on some facts i can tell you what is relevant for the reality and what is not.
The Tesla goes 40-70 while the petrol car is still trying to find the right gear.
And my Chevy Bolt is the quickest-responding car on the road....unless i'm going for a gap alongside a Tesla. Stomp an electric cars and it is INSTANTLY going MUCH faster. There is NO LAG AT ALL. It's LAUGHABLY quicker than anything that has to inhale and then compress air with explosions.
Ha remember when top gear tried to kill tesla
Andrew Mitchell that’s because shell (a PETROL COMPANY) is top gear’s main sponsor
The roadsters they were given were fully charged
moby gamer exactly
Andrew Mitchell now that shell isn’t sponsoring them, They love electric cars in the Grand Tour
moby gamer oh, cool. Thanks for the insight. Now I understand why they seem to like the car.
The Tesla is quick but that R sounds incredible 🤤
@@2meters2 You can never truly recreate a combustion engine's sound.
And those seats in the R. Gorgeous.
No, no it would not.
0:39 Holy $h!t, it's a Renault Avantime in the background !
My dad owns a Avantime!
Why don't you post the price of BOTH cars? Leaving this important detail out is HIGHLY DECEPTIVE!!!
No it's not. The price of the Porsche is so high because it is a highly limited special edition for car collectors.
The R isn't even built for straight lines, it's built for the track (the model S would obviously lose there). It's not like he picked the best petrol car for this, just one that is very traditional with good reputation (aka manual transmission and Porsche).
The Porsche has wildly increased in value while the Tesla S has wildly decreased in value. Anything else you want to know?
@@Atombender So has the Ford Model T. Not many of them left on the streets though. Anything else you want to know?
@@schlafanzyk Yes. What's your point?
its like you didnt watch the video. Tesla, 130.000£. its fucking expensive for an electric vehicle. 911R is a special edition, and not the fastest Porche but expensive. Compare the Tesla to a AMG 63s and it will get trashed in a 1/2 mile.
Making those races with so low battery is not fair..
Maxime CAMELOT why? A petrol car is just at fast on a quarter tank.
Eipotttatsch lol I hope you realize that this «Tesla» has no petroleum reservoir 😂
Yeah you gotta be at 30% + to have a more optimal performance.
Just like cars that need to be fuelled before the race
that's retarded, why would lower percentage equal worse performance, that is the tell tale sign of a bad car
PQTH I don’t think you know how electric vehicles work
For an EV company that started about 17yrs ago. Not too shabby considering the competition with petrol car manufacturers. Also the fact that petrol engines have been the main focus in cars for over 100 yrs. Not to say there wasn't an EV 100 yrs ago, but... "we" discarded the idea for certain reasons, as well as some of the more modern technologies really didn't exist at that time. I am looking forward to EV's in the future. Not having to stop in the morning or evening for petrol! Just get home and plug it in! I like that concept. I do realize there are down falls to EV's at the current time. But 100yrs from now, just think how more efficient it could be! Lets keep EV progress and evolution alive!
People not realising top gear "review" the driving experience of a car and not the fact that a car can haul your kid to a soccer practice make me laugh
Chris, you should have taken the Tesla to the track and show the world how it performs through the curves at its limit.
It certainly would be interesting to see how poorly it performs and how quickly it overeats. Top Gear couldn't or wouldn't do it again after the controversial Tesla roadster video.
But then Chris would have every Tesla fanboy at his door with pitchforks. And I like Chris.
people never mention its the safest car in the world...
according to whom?
drivemag.com/news/how-safe-are-tesla-cars-5-facts-and-myths-explained
Actually its the model 3. xD Model S is 2nd and Model X is 3rd.
Inigo Freed
Probably because it’s not.
They're being very careful not to make it look good
I wonder though, with that extra weight, how often do you need to replace the tires?
Looks like this video was sponsored by petrol companies
Keith Coutinho, Chris knows who greases his wheels...
@Plazmatron it's happened before on top gear...
Why would PETROL companies endorse ELECTRIC cars??
Maybe petrol companies would have been happy to hear that a racing driver like Chris was reviewing the Tesla, but you are out of line to accuse this review of dishonesty. Chris was obviously deeply impressed by the Tesla, said it 'smashed' the competition, and was completely honest that it isn't the sort of car that he would own. The review was very high praise, deservedly so. To put it bluntly, if you feel this review is negative about the P100D, you have completely misunderstood.
He doesn't want to like it, but in the end he doesn't have much bad to say. I see that as a stamp of approval. I would take the Porsche, but if you offered me the Tesla or a M5, I'd go Tesla.
If Tesla survives, they are going to do some batshit crazy stuff in the next 10 to 20 years. Our world is about to change. Remember the industrial revolution? The tech revolution is just getting going.
I agree, I, like Chris, don't want to like the Tesla, even the new Roadster. I definitely have a lot of admiration and respect for what Elon and Tesla have been able to achieve especially in the short amount of time they've been making cars. All that said, it will be a cold day in hell before I take a Tesla Model S even this top of the range 100D over something like a Alfa Romeo Guilia Quadrifoglio that has so much lively character, almost the exact opposite of this Model S. Or the 911 R featured in this test or a Ferrari 488 GTO over the new Roadster. Sure the Roadster will wipe the floor with even a LaFerrari or Bugatti Chiron but the experience will be drama free in the worst way possible and humans love drama especially when going that fast.
Tesla did not make any revolution. They just made an electric muscle car. Oversized engine, everything else made out of the cheapest materials possible. No quality control in the factory, dreadful reliability, no real world testing before production. Over a 100k car still has no leather seats but some cheap plastic imitation. That's because electric drivetrain is ridiculously expensive, batteries are still very inefficient way to store energy.
sic22l wow most of wat you just wrote is false . maybe you should do some reading.
Which part? The fact that the drivetrain is 50% of the car's total weight? Or that there's no piece of leather in a $100k vehicle? Or that Tesla hit rock bottom in reliability reports?
Also you get more power from the Tesla at 100% charge. This was about 25% charge
A bit uneducated of them to test it at such low charge. I kinda get it that they'd want to make it look as bad as possible, as usual...
Esa Edvik They even let it cool down because it can be fast only once. Sure, they were soooooo critical.
Esa Edvik
No, they probably just went at it like any other car.
And most other cars aren't that bothered whether the tank is full, half full or 1/3 full.
“I don’t know why it just really doesn’t light my fuse...” Its not a GT3RS, man. It’s a 4 door family car. If you want your fuse lit, drive the Roadster. If that doesn’t light your fuse, you don’t have one.
You totally missed his point. An Alfa Giulia is also a 4 door family car and yet it would light his fuse in the same way a 911 does.
Chris’ fuse gets lit by a 2CV, one trick ponies are not instantly exciting and interesting
how can you not love the inside of the car? it looks so futuristic.
because yes the tech is good but the rest of it is ill fitting tat... ive sat in one and the plastic is about the same quality as the plastic holder in a selection box