How new age spirituality turned me into an egotistical narcissist
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I share my story of how embracing new age spirituality led me down a dangerous path of egotism and narcissism. I explain how the law of attraction and teachings from guru Esther Hicks impacted my relationships, business, and overall worldview. This is a cautionary tale about the dangers of seeking success and validation through spirituality, and the importance of staying grounded in reality and values. Thank you to one of my subscribers for inspiring me to share this vulnerable and difficult experience.
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Awakening from the "awakening" ))
Yep :-)
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Yes 💯 it literally is the awakening from the awakening.
Me too! A book called Bullshitto came into my reality when I started questioning everyone and everything asking for the truth. Then a Tony Sayers showed up.
what's next is what i was thinking, from where you have that new level of awareness and like the whistle blowers say have more discernment and sovereignty. see some people come away from new age and 'from new age to christian' testimony videos but i don't think that's the right idea lol as it's limiting and fear based ideas in religion so i'm not so sure there, but like with tony sayers he has lot's of clients that are very badly wounded from the new age experiences and i oftern wonder what they'll do next as they are in this recovery phrase.
Just got out of a relationship with someone like this. It was almost as if she took no responsibility or accountability for her actions. Anyone who could not measure up to her "vibration" was soon discarded.
Sounds like you’re better off now
Dodged a bullet mate! Self confessed “spiritual” people usually the most judgemental of all.
I was in a relationship with one of "those" for 5 years. She was so fake and full of shit and hid behind every new age stereotype you can possibly imagine. Good for you for getting away from it.
That is very narcissistic behaviour by her- you saw the red flags and got out, which is absolutely the right thing to do.
@@belzy02belindah28 whenever someone says they don't judge, they're actually the most judgmental
I just had a really eye opening conversation with a friend the other day. I'm into spirituality, while she's not, but she's very open minded and cares a lot about humanity and works with people. And i realized how much new age spirituality made me selfish, and how true spirituality isnt about you. Its about coming back to what is, and creating peace for everyone, not just yourself🙏
You're courageous and humble to come out openly and admit to your mistakes in your relationship.
Thanks!
mistakes were pre written that's how we learn
Same I had to reign it in. Now I just keep it simple, exercise meditate and just try be a decent functional person.
Wow, in a time of extreme narcissism and New Ageism you are so brave.
Law of Attraction is all about victim-blaming.
It’s not a good thing
😢😢😢yeah and don't let me get started on past life regression bs too... everything becomes your fault..also you are reincarnated as a punishment to pay off your karma from past lives.
your life is preconceived everyone life is a stage show
Yes, it is, me and my lack mentality, lol. Much Love
It’s not even a law, has nothing to do with science, it’s a made-up cult term
I’m a former Scientologist. Been watching videos like this and when people describe what New Age spirituality is - it sounds a lot like Scientology! Being “at cause” over people and situations and the “physical universe” - even making time “as-is” (stop - so you can get somewhere on time). “Pulling in” bad things or sickness that happen to you (karma). At the higher levels becoming God-like. So glad I got out!
I went through a similar thing “my partner” who got me deep into this showed no empathy when i had a bad day. Made me apologize to her for ruining her mood and “vibrations”. My whole perspective shifted and I immediately saw that this was all fake and extremely egotistical. I had fallen into the egoistic side too and apologized for any of my wrong doings to those around me. Since then i blocked her and all of this bs. And now i welcome bad days. At the end of the day we live in a bipolar world. Light or dark, up or down, left or right, hot or cold, good or bad, true or false, yes or no. And i welcome saying no, and processing the negative emotions. If you only touch one side you, how will you appreciate the other? How will you grow? This is the only real way. We cannot only have one side of the spectrum. They are there for a reason. Wish you all well 🙏🏼
That is true wisdom- actaully, it's close to Buddism, from what I understand of it- it's about acceptance, once you accept what IS you can move past it to where you'd like to be, but not before.
@@alexmousley7213 thank you, i believe it is too, I’ve been trying to comprehend Buddhist teachings for a long time now and everyday I see how true they are. They are tough lessons once you experience it but they are the most relevant nonetheles.
@@Dll5749I have to say that I'm no expert in Buddism, but I think I get the gist, I'm also atheist, but there is always some wisdom in some religions worthy of consideration. You may also enjoy the philosophy of the Stoics- who realised that it is how we think about hardship, rather than the hardship itself that makes it bearable or not. They reminded themselves constantly how lucky they were to be alive.
The New Age is focused 100% on increasing the power of the human EGO. Then it has the hubris to claim that it is spiritually transcendent to other spiritual disciplines that are thousands of years old. But all it does is pump up your ego. Traditional religion at its best (at least Catholicism as in the examples of the Saints) teaches you a sense of humility (true transcendence of the ego) and opening up to the "Will of God" which always knows more about what is best for you than the ego. Ironically, the traditional religions teach you ONENESS with God, even though the New Age is constantly babbling about this while empowering your ego that is always separate from God.
It's because new age spirituality is a literal product of a psychological operation carried out by the CIA known as MKultra, it's literally just gobbledy-gook that that comes from the fried mfs who got experimented on by the feds, of course their new found spirituality is going to be a crock.
exactly. Ester Hicks is so cringy, how can so many not see it. She is like a cult leader and her method is to worship your ego.
The new age has NOTHING to do with increasing your ego, it's most about removing it. You obviously know nothing about it. Look into non duality and christ consciousness. You also know nothing about religion, religion tells you youre separate from God.
@@TwoWheels_OO WRONG! A huge part of the New Age is to activate the Law of Attraction to bring all your ego's wishes to you with minimal effort on your part. The whole point is to affirm and visualize and chant your way to the toys and material items you seek. And I have met lots of New Agers who proudly BOAST about how they have removed their ego. Think about it. The New Age is all about satisfying the ego with emotion, belief and visualizations. I knew Jane Roberts personally, so don't tell me I don't know the New Age. She kept visualizing health while her body rotted away in a hospital for a full year before she died a terrible death, while her channeled entity Seth kept prattling away in trance about how she was soon to be well. And sweetheart, 3D is the land of duality. You cannot escape it. Every time you decide whether to do anything versus doing anything else, you are back in duality. Your ego and its sense of separation from me wrote your message with the insult that I know nothing about the New Age! LOL
Sometimes 'positivity' is just I want to get my way.
Yep
My aunt who once had a lot of empathy has also transformed into a narcissist after buying a house.
😂😂😂 that is absolutely horrible, did she start a new age cult or yoga studio in that house?😂
@@selenem3384 no but she started tormenting her daughter to marry someone rich
@@selenem3384maybe it was a materialistic attitude
I lasted a year with this stuff; going completely against my natural skepticisism.
I asked too many questions.
Everytime it doesn't work, it is somehow your fault.
It's quite literally like being in an abusive relationship, with the goal-post moving, gaslighting, emotional suppression, etc.
It's completely unfalsifiable.
I spent a year trying to do so.
The people who believe it, have no sympathy or regard for your efforts; they will happily throw you under the bus to maintain their world-view.
Thank you for this. I had to leave behind these 'new age' people and groups of people. To me it is a training ground for narcissism. Some of these groups were even cult like and tried to get me back. They had plans for me. They were wanting to manifest me to be as they wanted me to be even to the point of match making. I have always been an optimistic thinker but real spirituality is as you describe in your video. I did not realize what new age was really about until I found people trying to take my will away from to please their own agendas. Humility and real community are far more satisfying.v
I had to saay goodbye to my yoga teacher / "friend" because I could not compete with her other LOVE AND LIGHT NEW AGE PSYCHIC FRIENDS who enabled her in her toxic behaviour. She always made you feel that those vibing soooo high on "positive vibes" are the better and stronger people...real life talk always gets you looked down upon.
Thanks for your humility and vulnerability in sharing your story. I’ve experienced something similar and frequently witness this in the “spiritual” space.
Having been an infinitely worse person in similar yet different ways to you I recognise the people who stood up to me as people who really cared.
nice one, in a previous life i was something like a spiritual grifter on facebook. in truth, i feel that if you tie your spiritual self to a consistent social media avatar it stops you from experiencing personal growth. thanks for video.
An ideologically framework designed around the individual, isn’t just myopic in principle, it’s egocentric in virtue. Hearing your story makes me smile, because it’s like hearing someone tell you about how they broke out of prison.
yes, as far as i'm concerned, the law of attraction failed when i was trying to figure out how i attracted war in my country - and all other crap i had no control over. total BS. as for esther, i tried to listen to her several times and was enraged each time - can't quite remember why but it was something about how she was treating people in the audience who dared to ask a question. i found her disgusting.
the law of attraction - as used in new age - breeds little egotistical narcissists - who, in all their 'spirituality' care about nothing else but how to personally benefit - in materialistic way, which, btw, is definition of satanism.
one think to note for all new-agers out there - 'new age' is luciferian .... religion? no more and no less. do your research. start with lucis trust.
as for the actual 'law of attraction', it is one of the hermetic principles apparently - nothing to do with new age. the best interpretation of the LoA i've come across so far is that of Mark Passio, former satanist.
also, sorry you had to go through this experience, but at least you came out of it in a healthier state of mind
"The Real LAW OF ATTRACTION" The part no one wants to talk about
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Thanks for watching and commenting. Yep - I have a similar reaction now to Esther Hicks' videos, but early on I loved them.
Great video man, really appreciate your honesty and vulnerability!
Brava 🎉 I think it’s important to separate vibration, the law of attraction and the science behind belief. But any energy used towards the small “self” only, will amplify the ego mind and not the spiritual BIG S self, as they say in psychology.
Thanks 4 being so honest. You will awake people out of the new age/law of attraction
Thanks!
I never would have expected that anybody of this selfhelp scene would do this video
It’s a very small percentage. Watched a few and they were definitely spot on.
@@ambersummer2685😂😂very few people in the new age cult get tired of their own BS to evolve from that state of mind
Vibration height as nothing to do with moral qualities. Refreshing video thank you for sharing 😊
😂😂 I have been in the new age cult for 5 years, after finishing my yoga teacher training I was totally cured from the BS ... I was mad at the whole bloody new age movement and more lies. There are more lies in the new age movement than in the church,both institutions or cults are toxic af. You have to be totally into spiritual psychosis and dissociation if you want to survive in any of those cults and make it part of a lifelong community. Thank f.. I woke up from both!!! I am disgusted by both sides of the coin now!!! Jesus and Buddha can kiss my a..r...s..e!!!
I would disagree that the law of attraction turned you into a narcissist or narcissistic.
The law of attraction just probably enhanced your own narcissistic traits that were already there that you haven't worked through in therapy or in your own personal growth.
Brave of you to say!
Genuine friendships, literature, self deprecating humor, laughing, forest walks, listening to friends, philosophy and history and psychology… literally everything good in life > New Age spirituality!!!
In my opinion, at least. I live in LA and I’ve been to many festivals, I know the crowd and the belief systems! They sure do hold all the secrets to life 😂. Actually some of them are very genuine and kind and others are much more egotistical, the opposite of losing your ego which is supposed to be part of the woo-woo curriculum
They kind of co-opted meditation, yoga, deep breathing, etc but none of those things need to have any greater cosmic whatever to be amazing in and of themselves!
All glory goes to god, we are not god, we are connected to him if we seek him truly and then only we can come to him with humility and ask him what is his will, our will is wrong we seek money we seek fame we seek things that arent from god, new age teaches us to become god, while jesus teaches us to listen and follow god, to love one another to humble ourself to give rather than receive all the things you mention your awakening seems like its coming from the holy spirit trying to reach to you and letting you know how much he wants a deeper connection with you…. I dont understand everything i dont have the capacity to understand god fully, but i know that his will is what i need in my life, his holiness and his grace 🙏 thanks for the share of your experience ❤️
I am God. We are Gods and Goddesses. Submission to abrahamic god sucks, abrahamic religions suck. Only weak men and women submit to (abrahamic) god. Submission sucks. Im never submitting to semitic god yhwh/jesus/allah. I myself am to be glorified, worshipped and exalted NOT some abrahamic god, I am God I worship myself. Hail Paganism, Astrology, Witchcraft and New Age and Hail Pagan and New Age Gods and Goddesses.
Wow this is beautiful THANK YOU
John 3 16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.
John 14 6
Jesus said; I am the Way, the Truth and the Life: no one goes to the Father than through Me.
John 10 10
The thief (satan, devil) only comes to steal, kill and destroy.
He disguises himself as an angel of light. He is behind all this New Age movement/teaching.
Remember he got kicked out of Heaven because he wanted to be above God. Pride, narcissistic, selfish, a deceiver. He is the Father of lies. In the new age they teach that you can become your own god. That is a Lie.
There is only one God. Jesus Christ of Nazareth. He is the Savior, The King of all Kings, the Prince of Peace, The I am who I am, The Holy One.
The devil KNOWS that Jesus Christ is The Savior of the world BUT he doesn't want you to believe so he is distracting us in any possible ways. He is the master of deception.
Jesus Christ doesn't want anyone to perish. Turn to Him while you can. He is waiting for you.
I personally can't wait for His return. He is coming back so soon.
Love from Jesus Christ and I.
Shalom.
Amen. Praise God for saving me out of the gnostic pagan new-age pit.
Garbage. Jesus died for 2 days. Religion is nothing but fear and control
Garbage. Jesus died for 2 days, where is the sacrifice? Religion is about fear and control. Look into christ consciousness and what jesus was truly teaching. Go by the gospel of jesus not the gospel of Paul which is the scam.
If you ever encounter someone claiming they are "spiritual" yet at the same time they are giving you material advice about how to gain wealth yet not how to become rich = to have friends and family that respect and love you , be sure you are encountering a fraud . no matter of their shape or form .
The irony is that too much spirituality has become too worldly, and I think that's the core of the problem. Where are those seeking to use the "law of attraction" as a basis to attract and foster more compassion, giving, etc. in the world? No.... it's all about MONEY MONEY MONEY, the exact thing Jesus and other classical spiritual teachers preached and even agitated against.
Also, I generally think "guru" relationships are no different than church pastor relationships. It's still you having someone else be your tyrant, even if an "elective" tyrant.
indeed
Thanks for sharing. I think there is a lot of truth in these practices,but it's up to the individual how to use the tools and making own discernment.
That's right
So you manifested exactly what you wanted, with an added bonus of experiencing more joy, intimacy, and the success you dreamed of. You just let go of the tension of wanting it so bad and that allowed it to manifest, in a beautiful way. I love that. 😊
So you're still endorsing the law of attraction after he just told you the law of attraction is what was ruining him? He let his ineffective new ageism go and actually created with his hands, deeds, words and thoughts what he desired. This is not law of attraction or psychological manifestation, it's just common sense behavior. You want some apples plant an apple seed and water it. Don't mediate and try to match the vibrational signature of an apple in your minds eye and expect to have apples soon. This way truly "manifests" what you desire and the other new age "manifesting" route is just masturbation and erecting the self as some sort of deity that controls the flow of fate and objects and others. The world does not not acquiesce to your thought process and desire. Thats delusion. Only your inner world adheres to your thoughts and fall to far into the mire of your thoughts and mental breakdown will ensue. It's an ineffective way of thinking.
The law of attraction always works like Gravity. Just these new age Ego narcissists focus on Ego, money and high vibration, while completely ignoring the fact, that it does not attract what you want, but who you are. That IS inckuding all surpressed emotions, that you are supposedly not to feel anymore. Ironically that creates resistance and to manifest successfully you actually have to acknowledge the bad emotions as well, let go of control and trust.
I like how you explain it for someone who doesn't know what you are talking about.
You would be such a good teacher :)
I just smile, this is so great to listen to. Thank you!
Most people out there making money off of spirituality are people who never did this shift but ultimately became narcissists
Its just the same as self righteous religious people. The ego can contaminate everything. You have to balance the self.
It’s all a psy op
I let it fuck my life up for 10 yrs
When it comes down to it. the occult, new age, and everything else like that always blow the ego way out of proportion. Religion tends to focus on self-deprivation. It's common for people to polarize from one to the other.
😂😂😂have you been to church, did you really look at the cult of organized religion? There are just as many narcissists in churches than in new age "spiritual" cults. I think any religion or movement that makes you believe you are better than others is a recipe for indulging the ego too much and making excuses for it.
@@selenem3384 Not really focused on "church" per se, just religious teachings that all say to abandon ego and needs of self.
Neither Jesus or Buddha were known narcissists if the literature is to be believed. However, there are many known modern cult leaders who had very self-centered goals. More of a generalized statement.
Honestly though, I am only interested in finding true self, and pure truth in general. I feel like one must pick of the fragments of truth from the debris of this chaotic mess of a world we have created.
Been there done that! All
you get when things don’t work out is more “I’m a piece of shit” self blame, because I attracted this into my life according to LOA so it’s all my fault 😮
Totally
I'm beyond grateful to find this video... I am part of a spiritual community, but I'm also the one(And only as best I can tell) person who sees through the charade of this LOA way of thinking... And I continue to rub up against a very close friend who is neck deep in that way of viewing the world... It's somewhat disappointing.. but at the same time, I trust that everything unfolds exactly as it should, so thank you for this video it's comforting
Thanks for sharing, Jarred
Thank you for sharing your constructive thoughts. It is enough to look at the history of modern spirituality and how it rose the awareness of young people in the sixties until it threatened Western capitalism, which does not allow any competition, to know that this capitalism swallowed up spirituality and made it a breeding ground for narcissists who serve its agenda. The origin of spirituality and the traditional schools that dealt with it is, entirely, another thing.
Pertinent content indeed mate - it seems to me so much of the modern western spiritual movements / communities are being called out as yes : self absorbed , self interested ,narcissistic, fraudulent and deeply hypocritical - I spent a year on a yoga ashram and have to say with hindsight that perhaps some of the practices were fanning the flames of narcissism ?
look up roosh v
Spiritual bypassing so you can avoid your wounding and shadow self. I find these people are so disembodied and fake.
Thanks for sharing. I never understood any of this, what I learnt from my family is to be and not become, till date don't know why is this curiosity to know😑
Personally i think there's certain ppl who created this LOA movement, and when that aged real quick, they created the Qanon pleaedians and reptilians lore, all to rope in religious outliers into a certain system they need to keep running. For most 'normal' ppl, they feed them their political take on mainstream religion; for those outliers who arent into that, they craft different versions of new age lore.
What a refreshing video. If we focus on the destination we might miss the joy and connections we made in getting there. Balance is challenging. BTW, I can't listen to Abraham Hicks. I just can't for some reason. Cultish. Love this video. Keep moving forward ✨️
Much appreciated!
Same!! I got out of it recently. I really resonate with everything you say :) I would love to get to know you:)
i feel like it is doing this to me somewhat
The law of attraction works as it does. However, there is a lot of misunderstanding when it comes to LoA.
I think it's important to be positive and visualize in many cases, just not as a universal rule
Would like to interview you and share our Journey. Thanks for this video and your courage. Wish you the best.
Thank you for sharing this.
Don’t blame the teachings for your misuse of it
Many people are taking these suggestion from spiritual influencers to be litteratur and not making a discernment if weather it can help them or not, so some of the practices can produce a by product such as spiritual by passing
Yep it's true
Just signed up for your 30 day course after viewing your masterclass. So looking forward to it
I wonder after experiencing all of this, which I can relate to, what would happen when you read the bible now... I believe this book will blow you away.....
I was religious until I read the story of Lot's daughters.
Interesting story, and I respect your journey but you seem to be using the term ‘narcissist’ as an erroneous gesture, to what you became as a temporary personality. Your personality that you were describing, is not the personality of a narcissist, according to the DSM, who coined the term narcissism. Narcissism is an incurable personality disorder whereas the person exhibits no ability for empathy, or understanding of anything relating to self-awareness. Esther hicks or any New Age teaching could never make someone into a narcissist. Narcissism is created by a lifelong survival tactic, mostly in the face of trauma or lack of love and empathy or learned response from early childhood. You making this video is proof itself that you are not a narcissist, unless you are purposely using it to manipulate with, and could care less about anyone’s spiritual development. This doesn’t seem to be the case in my opinion. You seem to have been humbled and truly want to help others. This is not the case in true narcissistic personality disorder, you can never awaken from that disorder. Maybe you are using the term loosely here, but to anyone who truly is a survivor of narcissistic abuse it could be insulting. This comment is not to bash you, I find your story inspiring, the title is just a little misleading. With love ✨🙏🏻✨
Thanks for the feedback. I'm definitely using narcissist as a descriptive term, not in terms of self-diagnosis.
Beautifully articulate and enlightened comment!
I think that he probably meant 'egotist' instead of 'narcissist'. Still, that said, the video also makes for a good critique of the extreme permissiveness in the New Age spirituality movement, where distinctions between right and wrong don't exist.
Narcissists can be treated, if there is a will to heal. Psychopaths can’t. Not all narcissists evolve that far. I worked in forensic behavioral health for decades.
@@rickymoody3239 safer for people who deal with narcissists to believe they don't change and get away from them. Many lose for believing they can compared to psychopaths
I’m so glad Allah saved me from new age . It ruined my life . I lost myself completely and I’m now recovering mentally from all.
Dear we Muslims should be least impressed with new age movement which is against our religion .
@@tajamulislam3879 yes I know. But unfortunately I fell victim to to it. Nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes.
Thank you!
It has also spilled over into private life that partners work on their partners with NLP, for example, and that is an absolute no-go. I have enlightened all the men and women I know and discussed the diagnoses and symptoms that speak for and against and most of the conventional medicine has already failed. I did not Against Spiritual Work and Energy Work. I'm also a private fan of it, but strangers have to be informed and approved and documented, and I'm strict about that. I want That people are doing well in the long term and that they want that first and foremost, and then I'm there too.
What? You have no likes on your comment so i must not be the only one who doesnt understand what you are saying.
@@laurielowery9011 Thanks for saying it. This scrambled up English reads like a bad automatic translation.
Very nice video!!
Thanks so much!
In my opinion, that's a crime. I have written to several companies not to hold these seminars and have received approval. Because there are also people who are ill What they don't know about, they jump off the balcony and I also said in hospitals that I don't do what I've learned when making a diagnosis. I didn't care if the clinic then k resigns
What?
someone finding you attractive doesn't allways =sex a relationship your soul has already decided upon
with other souls in spirit what you are going to both experience down here on earth with each other and you have done this with many souls if its not in your divine plan your not getting that women simple as if you have choose them in sprit to have sex with or have a relationship with then sure it will happen
😂😂 the collective spirit Abraham Knuclehead they do channel😂😂😂
hahaha, this is a++
problem starts when thoughts/emotions get categorized as "good vs bad"
incredibly subtle and insidious, but vultures nonetheless
At least you’re aware! I’m always mindblown at how much those preaching “love & light” are the most narcissistic people on Earth. They’re “all one” yet hate the normies lol 😂 what a joke
What are your thoughts on Neville Goddard?
Love your channel and content. Keep it coming!
Haven't heard of him to be honest
@A lexis I'm sorry to hear that. It's dangerous what Neville teaches that basically everything good or bad that happens to us is a result of our imagination.
No true spirituality turns anyone into anything. It's just what you do with it. If you are so needy that you go to extremes with any body of knowledge, that's where you are at, and you are the cause of any unwanted result, i.e., "the end justifies the means" thinking.
Sounds like the narrator exploited it and now he blames "it" for the result. Geez.
free masterclass? i can afford that. wait now you're selling a course on personal power
I find the most mocking comments come from new age 'healers'.
Tough to wake up and realize that "Me", that whole self-centered, self-referential habit of thinking, is a total fake and a huge waste of life.
I can’t stand her
this vibration thing just means ur aroused and yes it's nice when other people are, u connect and have a nice time :-{)
Lol
I can't stand Abraham Hicks
I have been attracting things for the last 30 years, it works great for me, so maybe you are just doing it wrong, or with the wrong kind of mindset, you have to do it without the ego in mind, and without selfish intentions.
You completely missed the whole mark of spirituality and took one small aspect of it. You were never spiritual, you were only using the LOA. With spirituality there is no "me", lol 😂
I agree with you, I had missed the point and need to take the "self" out of it.
Manna from a man.
This would have been a great documentary if you left religion out of it. The fact that it has a Christian slant doesn’t speak to people of other faiths. Religion and dogma is all man made. How can any intelligent person actually believe the Bible verbatim. It’s filled with outdated nonesense and also wisdom open to interpretation.
Where did he mention christianity???