@@RobertCraft-re5sf complacency, shes`s a cold cold bitch, colder than her cousin karma career pilots with 10, 20, 30k flight hours still hammer themselves into the ground sometimes lol
I always thought that the muzzle loading, being faster and not needing to eject a case, was a pretty smart idea. After seeing that picture...not so much.
it's how it usually goes with soviet designs. It sounds good on paper, but then when you have to deal with it personally it's like "oh... wow... uh... pls no!"
Problem is actually solved but there is plenty of these older models used and in war you have to just learn, adapt and take some risks - that's life. Little joys and plenty of suffering.
"Choose which fingers you want to lose before loading" reads the warning on the side LOL. You would think that a simple firing pin block or firing pin retraction spring would be included to avoid rounds going off when loading it dirty
@@jastrapper190 Not super appropriate. you want the thing to not swing after all. Plumb, plumb bob are the correct terms (from plumbum, meaning lead in latin)
@@aenorist2431 when you say it “swings freely like a pendulum”. That’s perfectly correct. It’s highlighting the ability to move freely or swing from side to side.
The only positive thing the GP-25 seems to have over the M320 & M203 is that option for a high angle of attack. The ability to use it as a small mortar (like the Japanese knee mortar) while behind cover sounds like a great option to have.
@@thepaint9160 I’ve used both in the military and neither have the ability to do so built into the sights. It’s just 50m to 350m adjustable sights. You could of course use it to fire at a high angle like the GP-25, but you’d just be guessing.
@@omarrp14 Yeah, but both due have the ability to mount a indirect fire sight on the side to avoid the M203 top rail sights. Not sure if these sights are common now though.
I was thinking the muzzle loading seems really fast but when you showed that picture i very quickly reconsidered, i think the western variants do it the right way...
honestly doesn't even seem to have the "it's dirt simple and extremely cheap to manufacture" benefit since it's double action and has caseless ammunition. The only major benefit appears to be the built-in indirect fire sight and the very minor convenience of not having to remove the casing (which admittedly can get pretty sticky in a well fired launcher). With training I think you'd only be able to achieve a slightly higher rate of fire with the GP-25, and frankly the reliability may actually make the rate of fire of non-dud ammunition lower.
I've been looking for a GP 25 information for quite some time. On the Internet there is very little info about GP 25 gl and it's granades. This is first video covering GP 25+ ammo. Congrats on that I would love some more information about this gl and ammo for it. Especially covering the "mortar" fire mode. Also I think gp 25 has mutch more granade types than the standard nato 40mm. Like you have the thermobaric, bouncing(probably for mortar mode), bursting smoke screening, flash bang, large illumination rounds... These kind of granades don't exist for the basic nato 40mm. Maybe some comparison between m203 (if you have these available) and GP 25.
Your demonstrations have such an impressive attention to detail. As always, I’m hoping you stay safe I also greatly appreciate your input regard your own experience with the system, because it includes a lot of information that otherwise wouldn’t be mentioned. For example, on the standalone conversion, I would have never known that the extended pistol grip is flimsy or that that screw would prevent the trigger from being pulled- just great information all around
Didn't know this thing had the possibility of literally putting grenades in people's hands and making them lose fingers. Wouldn't want to be that guy even if the projectile isn't armed. Makes me happy that our troops here in the Philippines still rock the M203 and some of the SF have M320s.
I bet you were the best Grenadier in your platoon especially how you know everything about all weapon systems you must be very detailed in your training there's not many videos out there that I get impressed about a person that knows his weapon systems and how to use them correctly
Woohooo you're back. I get anxious when you go on ops. Great explanation and video. No bullshit just the goods ! Always like how you not only break down how the weapon works but also how its used and then how you personally use some items differently. I'll personally stay a rifleman if this is the grenadier tool :) Cheers mate.
Oh Man the Hand Pic! imagine the Doctor who has to remove it while it is still "armed", just horrible. There must be a Device invented for preventing this.
Really scary part about soviet grenades is the chance of hangfire. Pull the trigger, nothing... for an unknown period of time. Could be a second or two, could be an entire minute. Long enough to go "Wtf? Misfire, lemme unload it-" followed by the kaboom at your feet after you dump it, or worse, in your hand. Really wouldn't be excited about using decades-old soviet muzzle-loading grenades, either.
Was waiting to see a GP25 video, thank you as always for taking the time to really give us good info and your full opinion on everything! I really love hearing the opinions of fighters on their equipment. i could watch you for hours talking about equipment, how to use it and how you like it/dont like it. Please stay safe!
Ammunition is efficient, not having an external casing, in my opinion. Thank you for your channel and videos. Your videos are very educational. I like that you teach but that you also share tips and tricks from your experience. You make some fun jokes occasionally, which make your videos also enjoyable.
Wow.. is that the shortest rifled barrel ever, or gotta be close. god I love this Ruzzian stuff.. "pick a finger you're willing to loose, and seat it in" wait WHAT?!
I have a buddy named pietro. Ukrainian refugee, He lost his middle finger and has a deformed ring finger from the gp25 reloading it exactly how you were showing. Very interesting to see a video that specifically talks about that 1:10000 chance.
Valgear, have you seen GP-25s adapted to western rifles or RPK-74? There's also GP-30u variant that can be attached to older gen Galil 5.56 variant and FN FAL.
I understand your love for the GP-25. I carried an M4/M203 for six years, including Afghanistan deployments. The extra firepower is always nice. The M320 *needs* to be standalone though because it’s too heavy and cumbersome to be usefully mounted on a rifle.
I never realized there was a mount to allow it to be a standalone launcher. Also, thanks for providing such a detailed overview of this grenade launcher. I'm an amateur game developer and I'm trying to make a realistic VR shooter game over time as I learn. I want to model the functionality of the grenade launcher identical to the real thing. Knowing it has that special "trench sight" thing is neat and well noted.
I wonder how hard it would be to fix the issue with loading. I know revolvers generally have a "safety cock", which prevents the firing pin from resting on the primer before firing, so maybe the safety could be modified to force the hammer back just a tiny bit to decrease the chance of accidental firing.
Yes! Thank u for showing this, this type of launcher always interested me. But I don't understand how the grenade clicks into the barrel, is there some type of spring that clicks in the bottom of the VOG to hold it ?
there is small pin that clicks on the rim of the grenade, during fireing, the force basically overcome the pins spring power, thatnk you for watching man!
More of an accuracy, anyway we for sure have some that shoot more then 400rounds and they still work, also 400rounds is acctualy a bit amount, most people get to shoot 1-5 rounds in training and that's it, before you shoot 400 rounds on battlefield, you would be dead...
Remember everybody, your least important fingers are your index (trigger) fingers. Your middle can do eveything they can, and the ring and pinky are far more important than you realize for stability when using your hands to be more dexteritos.
Such a simple design, the hi-low pressure chamber is built into the barrel rather than in the casing like US 40mm grenades, and bounding HE would be much more useful than HEDP to maximize the effectiveness of the small volume available for payload
The Russian/Soviet GP 25, 30, 34 all use a caseless style of grenade instead of the US style that has a case and is breech loaded. The GPs basically throw the entire grenade out leaving nothing in the tube. Kinda sketchy cuz a burning ember could possibly ignite the propellant if you're rapidly firing them for a suppression effect. Could have a cook off.
Interesting design. Despite the short barrel length it seems to be a useful small arm, considering it has been around for a while (with newer iterations recently)
Apparently, the US doctrine does not imply any trench warfare. You're going to fuck everyone up with your air force and navy and give up if it doesn't work.
A good question... With a loaded launcher(on or off the rifle), how much is the likelihood of a discharge with a fall to the ground, ie the gun fell or was dropped?? I know from other vids and explanations saying not to drop the grenades themselves...as they potentially will detonate... But what about the gun with this type of trigger configuration?
I think for the risk of losing your hand/fingers alone I now believe breech-loading 40mm grenade launchers are superior, that one photo was gnarly.
“Use one or two fingers you’re willing to lose” 😂
Nah just be careful
@@RobertCraft-re5sf complacency, shes`s a cold cold bitch, colder than her cousin karma
career pilots with 10, 20, 30k flight hours still hammer themselves into the ground sometimes lol
if you're not idiot you will be fine
@@fridrekr7510Iconic 😂😂
"We fire the whole grenade, that's 65% more grenade per grenade."
I always thought that the muzzle loading, being faster and not needing to eject a case, was a pretty smart idea. After seeing that picture...not so much.
Appreciate the m203 much more now
I know ! haha
It is, sadly they didn´t put any safety in.
it's how it usually goes with soviet designs. It sounds good on paper, but then when you have to deal with it personally it's like "oh... wow... uh... pls no!"
Love it. Don't design a better system just use your least important finger. Thanks for the interesting video, glad to see you're still with us.
Problem is actually solved but there is plenty of these older models used and in war you have to just learn, adapt and take some risks - that's life. Little joys and plenty of suffering.
"it is better to use one or two fingers you are willing to loose" ah yes soviet engineering
'The pinky push'
When one soldier drops the GP-25 because he blew off some fingers, you pick it up and move forward..... Sorry, Enemy at the Gates was on last night.
😂
@@RemoteCamper 😂😂Amazing. I thought the first original comment was gonna be the funniest thing I read today… but then this… 😂
Better Soviet than Russian, if we've learned anything from the conflict XD
"Choose which fingers you want to lose before loading" reads the warning on the side LOL. You would think that a simple firing pin block or firing pin retraction spring would be included to avoid rounds going off when loading it dirty
In English we call a free-swinging weighted line that uses gravity to measure angles a "plumb bob."
A pendulum might be another appropriate English word. It swings like a pendulum…
@@jastrapper190 Not super appropriate. you want the thing to not swing after all.
Plumb, plumb bob are the correct terms (from plumbum, meaning lead in latin)
@@aenorist2431 If it didn’t swing… it would be broken. What do you mean you don’t want it to “swing”? If it didn’t swing it wouldn’t be functional.
@@aenorist2431 when you say it “swings freely like a pendulum”. That’s perfectly correct. It’s highlighting the ability to move freely or swing from side to side.
Or, just to add to the confusion, a Plumb Line
Iirc Plumb is vertical, the Plumb Bob is the lead weight, and the Plumb Line is the string
I did not know about the potential finger loss feature
comrade, is intentional.
is made like this so you take good care of it
*and hope everything goes fine*
Dirty or stuck firing pin? You'll be the first to know.
"You have grenade stuck in your hand..."
In Russia we call that a Hand Grenade.
In soviet of russia, YOU ARE HAND GRENADE
The only positive thing the GP-25 seems to have over the M320 & M203 is that option for a high angle of attack.
The ability to use it as a small mortar (like the Japanese knee mortar) while behind cover sounds like a great option to have.
The M203A2 has the ability to act as a small mortar as well and I believe the M320 has the same ability.
@@thepaint9160 I’ve used both in the military and neither have the ability to do so built into the sights. It’s just 50m to 350m adjustable sights.
You could of course use it to fire at a high angle like the GP-25, but you’d just be guessing.
@@omarrp14 Yeah, but both due have the ability to mount a indirect fire sight on the side to avoid the M203 top rail sights. Not sure if these sights are common now though.
if you ignore that it is more compact, easier to attach to the rifle, simpler to load, no casing, etc. etc.
to the aftermarket design table!
I prefer grenade launchers that don't require me to shove my fingers into the muzzle with a live grenade...
Not sure about this one... Our grenades had to travel 25m before arming. M-203 😊
@@dougs4944 are a good few rounds for the M203 with varying arming distances
@@dougs4944 it's intentional.
it arms after a certain distance so that the shooter doesn't blow himself up
Still makes one hell of a punch at less than 25m though
@@dougs4944 9:50 ???
I was thinking the muzzle loading seems really fast but when you showed that picture i very quickly reconsidered, i think the western variants do it the right way...
honestly doesn't even seem to have the "it's dirt simple and extremely cheap to manufacture" benefit since it's double action and has caseless ammunition. The only major benefit appears to be the built-in indirect fire sight and the very minor convenience of not having to remove the casing (which admittedly can get pretty sticky in a well fired launcher). With training I think you'd only be able to achieve a slightly higher rate of fire with the GP-25, and frankly the reliability may actually make the rate of fire of non-dud ammunition lower.
Happy to see you back man
Great review! It made me appreciate m203 and m320 even more!
I've been looking for a GP 25 information for quite some time. On the Internet there is very little info about GP 25 gl and it's granades. This is first video covering GP 25+ ammo. Congrats on that
I would love some more information about this gl and ammo for it. Especially covering the "mortar" fire mode. Also I think gp 25 has mutch more granade types than the standard nato 40mm. Like you have the thermobaric, bouncing(probably for mortar mode), bursting smoke screening, flash bang, large illumination rounds... These kind of granades don't exist for the basic nato 40mm.
Maybe some comparison between m203 (if you have these available) and GP 25.
Your demonstrations have such an impressive attention to detail. As always, I’m hoping you stay safe
I also greatly appreciate your input regard your own experience with the system, because it includes a lot of information that otherwise wouldn’t be mentioned. For example, on the standalone conversion, I would have never known that the extended pistol grip is flimsy or that that screw would prevent the trigger from being pulled- just great information all around
I think the short grip was by design since allows clearance for the rifle's magazine during insertion and removal
Didn't know this thing had the possibility of literally putting grenades in people's hands and making them lose fingers. Wouldn't want to be that guy even if the projectile isn't armed.
Makes me happy that our troops here in the Philippines still rock the M203 and some of the SF have M320s.
1 or 2 fingers that you are willing to loose :))) i spit on my monitor from laughing :))
Good to see you're doing well! Thanks for that video. I was waiting for the GP insight like a little child for christmas.
“Decide which fingers you are willing to lose to fully seat the grenade” no clue why that made me laugh so hard lmao
Only russians can design a weapon with a loading procedure like this...
im glad you posted this
What about it?
@@gus808 Don’t be an idiot, why would you have your other hand on the trigger to begin with?
@@gus808 i mean fingers are meant to be wasted, that’s why we have 10. we were designed to lose fingers to gp 25.
@@gus808 It needs 4 separate mags, picatinny, and an ACOG on an ACOG right, tactitard?
how many rounds can you safely fire between cleaning sessions?
About 20 rpunds
I bet you were the best Grenadier in your platoon especially how you know everything about all weapon systems you must be very detailed in your training there's not many videos out there that I get impressed about a person that knows his weapon systems and how to use them correctly
Thank you sir! Been hoping for a video on this launcher for a while.
Found your channel a week or so ago and just wanted to say you are an awesome communicator and teacher, stay safe man!
Good to have you back safe and sound! Thank you for the new review!
Take care and stay safe!
Always great to see you Bratan!
I have to say, it was one of the most awaited video from you, it’s a rare video and your videos are great information
Woohooo you're back. I get anxious when you go on ops. Great explanation and video. No bullshit just the goods ! Always like how you not only break down how the weapon works but also how its used and then how you personally use some items differently. I'll personally stay a rifleman if this is the grenadier tool :)
Cheers mate.
hey Valgear, glad to see your video pop on my feed, hope you are doing good.
Oh Man the Hand Pic! imagine the Doctor who has to remove it while it is still "armed", just horrible. There must be a Device invented for preventing this.
simply use piece of plastic metal or wood
Lol, I am now imagining a 3d printed loading aid. Would probably be useful and disposable.
Really scary part about soviet grenades is the chance of hangfire. Pull the trigger, nothing... for an unknown period of time. Could be a second or two, could be an entire minute. Long enough to go "Wtf? Misfire, lemme unload it-" followed by the kaboom at your feet after you dump it, or worse, in your hand. Really wouldn't be excited about using decades-old soviet muzzle-loading grenades, either.
Was waiting to see a GP25 video, thank you as always for taking the time to really give us good info and your full opinion on everything! I really love hearing the opinions of fighters on their equipment. i could watch you for hours talking about equipment, how to use it and how you like it/dont like it. Please stay safe!
Love the videos. No training or inert units here!! Only real units and live ammo.
Thanky you again for the interesting informations!
Stay safe out there!
Ammunition is efficient, not having an external casing, in my opinion. Thank you for your channel and videos.
Your videos are very educational. I like that you teach but that you also share tips and tricks from your experience. You make some fun jokes occasionally, which make your videos also enjoyable.
I knew something about GP-25 but didn't know how to unload it. Thank you for showing how it works!
Wow.. is that the shortest rifled barrel ever, or gotta be close.
god I love this Ruzzian stuff.. "pick a finger you're willing to loose, and seat it in" wait WHAT?!
Bless. Started to wonder how you had fared lately.
I’m amazed at how simple it is when it was disassembled
I have a buddy named pietro. Ukrainian refugee, He lost his middle finger and has a deformed ring finger from the gp25 reloading it exactly how you were showing. Very interesting to see a video that specifically talks about that 1:10000 chance.
Best regards to him!
Nato:
Lets make weapons safe.
Eastern block:
Use fingers you dont care about.
"a fun story" 😆
Ah, Valgear back at it again making the best content
That’s a great overview of the GP 25. Nice system to work with. Looks good on the AKM too. 😊
Valgear, have you seen GP-25s adapted to western rifles or RPK-74? There's also GP-30u variant that can be attached to older gen Galil 5.56 variant and FN FAL.
Glad you’re safe!
I understand your love for the GP-25. I carried an M4/M203 for six years, including Afghanistan deployments. The extra firepower is always nice. The M320 *needs* to be standalone though because it’s too heavy and cumbersome to be usefully mounted on a rifle.
Awesome video keep up the great work its neat to see indepth videos like this!
Soldiers like this are the ones you follow in combat and train to be like
I never realized there was a mount to allow it to be a standalone launcher.
Also, thanks for providing such a detailed overview of this grenade launcher. I'm an amateur game developer and I'm trying to make a realistic VR shooter game over time as I learn. I want to model the functionality of the grenade launcher identical to the real thing. Knowing it has that special "trench sight" thing is neat and well noted.
I thought the soviet muzzle grenade were so much more clever and efficient than the western design before watching this...haha. stay safe man
And here you can see fragmentation Rings doing their job😂😂😂❤
I wonder how hard it would be to fix the issue with loading. I know revolvers generally have a "safety cock", which prevents the firing pin from resting on the primer before firing, so maybe the safety could be modified to force the hammer back just a tiny bit to decrease the chance of accidental firing.
The only Talking Balaclava that really matters is back!
I did not knew it was so prone to that type of firing accidents and it is pretty damn scary. Better to use breach loading and call it quits.
Feel like the title of this video should be "no child, we have M320 at home"
Omfg yes! Been waiting for GP-25 content! My fav grenade launcher
Dobrze cię widzieć, chłopie.
You are amazing, thank you for the awesome video!
Wow much respect id need a wooden hook for that final push though ! 😊
Yes! Thank u for showing this, this type of launcher always interested me. But I don't understand how the grenade clicks into the barrel, is there some type of spring that clicks in the bottom of the VOG to hold it ?
there is small pin that clicks on the rim of the grenade, during fireing, the force basically overcome the pins spring power, thatnk you for watching man!
Love your videos - stay safe out there!
Keep up the awesome work man!
Thank you 💪
Another great video! John in Texas
is barrel life in terms of accuracy or risk of catastrophic explosion?
More of an accuracy, anyway we for sure have some that shoot more then 400rounds and they still work, also 400rounds is acctualy a bit amount, most people get to shoot 1-5 rounds in training and that's it, before you shoot 400 rounds on battlefield, you would be dead...
What an interesting simple little machine. Thanks for sharing
Thanks, this'll really be useful.
Glad you are OK. 👍
"Nyet, launcher is fine. Just use expendable fingers"
Best gp25 video I ever saw
@10:00 that is difficult to unsee. that is nightmare stuff
I did not know of the misfire when loading the VOG into the tube. Very scary, be safe.
Very interessting. Thanks and greetings from Germany.
God Bless Brother Keep fighting the good fight
nice insignia on the panzer there lol
Azov Patriots.
Guys these nazis must be totally different than the other nazis, the U.S government told me so
Love your videos brother! Much ❤ from 🇨🇦
Carrying grenade in a launcher for prolonged time, causes seizures. I mean carrying for days and days. Always service your gp and keep it clean.
That photo is gnarly
Glad you back thanks for great video
Remember everybody, your least important fingers are your index (trigger) fingers. Your middle can do eveything they can, and the ring and pinky are far more important than you realize for stability when using your hands to be more dexteritos.
Great fun fact!
Such a simple design, the hi-low pressure chamber is built into the barrel rather than in the casing like US 40mm grenades, and bounding HE would be much more useful than HEDP to maximize the effectiveness of the small volume available for payload
Thats the best tutorial on this ive seen
The Russian/Soviet GP 25, 30, 34 all use a caseless style of grenade instead of the US style that has a case and is breech loaded. The GPs basically throw the entire grenade out leaving nothing in the tube.
Kinda sketchy cuz a burning ember could possibly ignite the propellant if you're rapidly firing them for a suppression effect. Could have a cook off.
We live in a time line where the Ukrainians have created their own garand thumb and it’s fantastic. Making gun culture main stream👌
... Great in-depth, concise presentation on the gp25 grenade launcher!. Your own weapon that could take your fingers off 😬🥴 not good though!.
Interesting design. Despite the short barrel length it seems to be a useful small arm, considering it has been around for a while (with newer iterations recently)
Good instructions, I ambex British Army and understood everything you demonstrated
You are making great videos, and I can see you are a "True man of culture": Nice selection of watches :D
Use the fingers you are ok to lose. So lovely :)
Ah, the GP-25 Kostyor! I remember you well, Tovarich! Many a Monolith got blowed right up thanks to you.
I love how you often have live ammo in the chamber. Perhaps not the case in this but I’m going to imagine it so.
The aiming mechanism for inside trenches is genius we need to design one for the U.S M203.
Apparently, the US doctrine does not imply any trench warfare. You're going to fuck everyone up with your air force and navy and give up if it doesn't work.
Very relaxing to watch make me sleepy 😅
Ty for making these videos stay safe mate
how many rounds does it take before the gp-25 gets too dirty to be safe? Great content as always.
A good question...
With a loaded launcher(on or off the rifle), how much is the likelihood of a discharge with a fall to the ground, ie the gun fell or was dropped??
I know from other vids and explanations saying not to drop the grenades themselves...as they potentially will detonate...
But what about the gun with this type of trigger configuration?
Very, Very nice ! Thanks dude.
When a soldier has doubts about the safety of a weapon he will avoid using it.