As an IR rated pilot and looking at the chart's MDA, I knew you were gonna go around the moment you said what the reported cloud base was 😂. It was so cool to see that and this shows I am learning in class and I can't believe it lol. Awesome video as always and looking forward for more. :D
I recently put myself through A320 recurrent after having not flown the aircraft for some time. I've been in the Boeing world for a few years. It all came back but I can say I wished I'd watched your excellent videos beforehand. Very thorough and professional!
Haha, I found your channel just yesterday and watched a bunch of videos and thought "This is great stuff, but I'm gonna ask him to do a video explaining an RNAV app and what the differences is from an ILS app". And here it is!
Another great video! You have a way of making the Airbus "Black Magic" understandable! BTW, I posted a recommendation and link to your vids over on the FSLabs forum. These are too good not to share.
I really love your tutorials. Finally a real world pilot who knows what he is talking about. This is really highly appreciated. Would be great if you could do a tutorial on how to fly the visual approach to runway 08 at LOWI. Including setting up the fixes in the FMGS.
Hi Carlo. Thank you very much! Also thank you for the input. A video on standard visual approaches is a great idea! And Innsbruck is a nice airport to do this. Regards
Would be great to do the combined LOC/DME 26 then Visual 08 approach. But whatever you choose to do, I'm very much looking forward to your next video. Those are really the most insightful tutorials around! Keep up the great work!
Very clear speaking and very professional tutorial. One of the best I saw! Unfortunately I cannot use this model because my iMac27 runs only with X-Plane11 and there is the unfinished (probably forever) FF A320 and JAR A320...
Thank you. That is a shame. Unfortunately the FF320 is still missing a lot of features and the developer is not saying much about the progress. But I still hope that they will implement more systems like the weather radar and more features in the FMs.
Hmmm...I didn't realize the "appr" button needed to be selected for non precision (rnav/gps) approaches. Just shows how little I know about flying! This is a very handy little tutorial......thank you!
A320 Instructor Support 11/3 - NON PRECISION APPROACHES (NPA) The stabilized approach technique is recommended. Reach FAF with CONF FULL and VAPP. The following particulars do apply to NPAs. The overall strategy of NPA completion is to fly it « ILS alike » with the same mental image or representation, and similar procedure. Instead of being referred to an ILS beam, the AP/FD guidance modes and associated monitoring data are referred to the FMS F.PLN consolidated by raw data, with the exception of LOC only approaches, where LOC mode and localizer scale are to be used. This explains why the crew must ensure that the FMS data is correct; FMS accuracy, FPLN data (lateral and vertical), proper leg sequencing. ! Initial Approach - NAV ACCY CROSS CHECK is most essential since it determines: which AP/FD guidance mode may be used, which ND DISPLAY mode may be used and which raw data must be used. If GPS is PRIMARY or NAV CROSS CHECK is POSITIVE. Managed and selected AP/FD modes may be used, as well as ND ROSE NAV / ARC modes. If NAV ACCY CHECK is NEGATIVE. Selected AP/FD modes may only be used, and monitoring is achieved with raw data only. If GPS is PRIMARY at the beginning of initial approach, it will most probably remain primary throughout the approach. However if for any reason GPS PRIMARY is LOST then: • a GPS defined approach cannot be flown as if ILS signal was lost for ILS approach and • a VOR (NDB …) approach may be continued, as if without GPS. The strategy is merely a function of NAV ACCY CHECK. - Set the BIRD ON as flying reference. - Set VAPP as SPD CSTR at FAF, in order to get a meaningful (DECEL) pseudo waypoint. Other drills: - ILS P/B set to OFF in order to get VDEV BRICK on PFD (except for LOC only approaches, where ILS P/B is set ON and the yoyo is used as VDEV), - NAVAIDS - ensure that approach reference navaid is inserted and display associated needles.
Thanks, whenever I watch your videos I am amazed by the ease with which you handle the aircraft. I am still stuck up with MCDU no matter how many videos I watch. I just cant put thing togather. I mean putting in the data.
A good news from FSLabs site : "We're also working on the more advanced "pro-level" versions, but we're not ready to disclose any info on this just yet." Marketing ? Thanks also for this new interesting video.
Hi Jean. I am afraid that the pro-version will be very, very expensive and aimed at big customers like flight-schools etc. If it is affordable I will get the pro-version. Regards
jean Bam the pro version will be targeted towards cockpit builders and will have failures and networkable features. There are other avionics software with these features out now or soon - Jeehell FMGS (free) and Prosim Airbus.
JOHN PILOT il y a 3 minutes @Blackbox711 Many thanks for your answer. It's crystal-clear as ever! Should you have been a teacher ( as I am in high school) you would have been an Amazing one ! please keep on your state-of-the-art and unrivalled tutorials !
As usual, you always make tricky matters easier and clearer with your outstanding explanations ! In real world, in similar weather conditions, could a pilot continue the approach and secure safe and legal landing? Once again, thanks for your expertise!
Hi John. Thank you for your kind words. An approach procedure that ends in a manual landing (i.e. no autoland) requires the pilots to aquire certain visual references latest at the approach procedure minimum. Because from that point onwards the pilots will continue visually to land the aircraft. If that visual reference (runway and surrounding clearly in sight) isn’t attained at the minimum you need to go missed approach.
@@Blackbox711 Many thanks for your answer. It's crystal-clear as ever! Should you have been a teacher ( as I am in high school) you would have been an Amazing one ! please keep on your state-of-the-art and unrivalled tutorials !
Much appreciated for your contribution Blackbox711. My question is when we have to make a temperature corrections like execuating this approach, in what altitudes we have to add those correction values? I mean from MSA to FAF and other altitudes that published at chart or only the FAF and MDA for LNAV? Thank you so much.
Thanks a lot for the video (and all the others)! @ 00:54, shouldn't the precision be reduced to 0.3nm for the GPS approach (compared to 1nm in the terminal area)?
Going through my reccurent sim, I just got an explanation: forcing it on the MCDU will trigger an alarm on the PFD if the accuracy decreases. Otherwise, the value will change on the PROG page without other notice.
Good tutorial video , please make video about approach different selected and fully managed A/P both Non precision Approach and Precision approach, good job thanks
Hello Malcolm. Thank you very much. The FSLabs A320 is extremely well modelled. I flew the A320 in real life and am amazed at the level of detail in the system behaviour, the ECAM checklist and the manual flight handling of this sim. I know it is expensive, but if you are the sort of flightsim enthusiast that wants more than just fly around, then this sim is worth every penny. And no, I don't get sponsored by FSLabs :-)
Another great video, thank you. Have you had any problems with the A320X? I have this zig zag when on approach, directly I arm APP the aircraft starts this crazy zig zag! I have updated the Mag Dec with the tools from Herv Sors, but nothing seems to work. I wondered if you had experienced this behavior? I understand from FSL that the aircraft would do this in real life if the ILS was wrongly aligned. I must admit I'm stumped.
Neither was I :-) I set the ceiling at 500 ft, however I guess I set the visibility a little bid to low. I would always prefer to fly the RNAV GPS in managed mode. Guess I am lazy regarding managing the descent rate on my own. Regards
Blackbox711 great job in your managed mode! One of my past instructors teach me pretty well to use FPA during non precision approach. (I did plenty of them on Greek islands) It is funny but could be tricky 😬
Thanks for this great video, Blackbox711. One question, if you had kept going with the approach, at which point would the AP have disengaged? I know it's not allowed to autoland when doing an RNAV approach, but from a purely technical point of view, wouldn't the plane be perfectly capable of doing it? If not, why not?
Hi. If programmed and certified the AP would be abled to fly the RNAV and do an autoland. However you would also need a position updating unit at the runway to get the accuracy to an acceptable level. In the end we are talking about a GPS based approach
Hey, what about raim prediction, do you have any way of checking raim I.e. Sufficient predicted gps satellite availability in flight? The Garmin G1000 offers this feature and requires you to check the gps availability for the ETA at destination prior to starting a gps approach... Excellent video btw, nice surprise towards the end :D
Hi. Well, this is pushing the envelope a little too far for fsx/p3d. Of course in real life this is a must do, however in the fsx/p3d you always have an sufficient amount of satellites available. Regards
Blackbox711 oh yeah of course, in the sim I don't give a shit if I have satellites or not :D I was just wondering if in the real thing there is such a thing implemented, and how easy it is to access, or weather you have to just rely on rain prediction notams during preplanning. But I guess there must be like a page in the fms somewhere to check that right?
Please clarify your comment at around 7min 15 secs where you state that on the VLS check VLS on PFD is 2 knots higher than as displayed on the FMS so you will add 2 knots to the approach speed. I cannot see the VLS displayed on the PFD As another point I have been having difficulty with Non precision approach in getting the aircraft to descend and follow the brick. I am hoping that your video will help me to achieve this. Thanks. Mike
Hi. I have another video where I explain exactly why there can be a difference between the MCDU VLS and the VLS displayed in the PFD. Have a look here: ua-cam.com/video/U0_g4trYMuw/v-deo.html
Thank-you Blackbox711.I have watched the video you mention already. I was interested in your comment that when using with TRK/FPA armed, that on the FS Labs A320X you need to pull the FPA button and insert the correct decent angle. The way you said this and being a real airbus pilot yourself made me wonder if this is not quite how it is in the real aircraft. Of interest is that I learnt how to do non precision approaches in the Aerosoft airbus A320/321/£18/319. I never had a problem with getting the aircraft to follow the brick in the Aerosoft simulation. I was taught in the aerosoft simulation to arm TRK/FPA. If I left it in HDG/V/S would the FSLabs follow the brick. I have tried putting the the altitude down to the minimums after passing the FAF but it does not descend following the brick. I would be grateful for your advice which is much appreciated. By the way I am studying Mike Ray's A320 book to ensure I understand VLS. Mike
+Michael Houghton .. Like in the FSLabs and real life, you need to pull on the TRK/FPA to engage the mode and habe the aircraft descend. The Autopilot will not start the descent automatically with this mode. The only automatic descent is possible with the APCH mode button. Regards
TE: JAN 2001 Page 54 UDY0102 - If SELECTED Approach • Overfly FAF, properly identified, and • select TRK = Final APPR CRS, • select FPA = Final APPR path (actually start the final descent 0.3 NM before FAF). - Use ATHR and Managed speed. - If GPS PRIMARY, monitor VDEV/XTK/F.PLN on ND. For VOR, ADF approaches, monitor Raw data. - Set Go Around altitude ONCE the A/C altitude is below that altitude. Reaching MDA - If visual and properly established, continue & land with AP OFF and both FDs OFF.
Thanks for the video! Also, I have a question. In some RNAV procedures, the FPA/TRK button is also pressed along with the APPR button. But in this video, only APPR button was engaged. So is the FPA/TRK button necessary at all in the first place?
Hi. That is an interesting observation. I can't speak officially for any airline and their procedures, but in my opinion when using the APPR button on the FCU and therefore vertical guidance for the approach then I would use the FD crossbars and not the FPV. Regards
Hi and thanks for your videos.Very informative indeed. I use only XP and i have the FF A320. I tried to perform the RNAV 08 approach to LOWI following your instructions but always i ended to be very high and GO. Do you know if this is because of the FF A320 or maybe i do something wrong? Thanks
Hello Nick. Yes, at the moment the FF320 seems not to have a correct drag model with flaps and gear down. Also the descent profile is steeper at 3.6 degrees.
Thanks a lot for answering. I thought that i did something wrong. I had to GO twice and finally i did a visual approach to land. Hope FF will fix this soon.
Hi sir, im sorry im not a Fan of Fslabs, but can i apply this tutorial in Aerosoft series? I love your videos, so im hoping that you can answer my question. Thank you! :)
wie immer großartiges Video! hab schon eine Menge gelernt von dir, freu mich auf jedes weitere Video, und vor allem weißt du ja wirklich um was es geht :) hätte mal ne blöde Frage, da ich doch noch nicht so fit im fliegen bin: wann fliegt man einen RNAV Appr. und wann einen ILS? wenn nur eines von beiden vorhanden ist, eh klar, bzw. wenn der Flieger für eine Variante nicht die Ausstattung hat (wie meist bei kleineren Props) aber am A320, kann ich mir das quasi nach Lust und Laune aussuchen, hat es was mit dem Wetter zu tun oder sonst was? wobei das vermutlich nur für den Sim spannend sein wird, im echten Leben fliegt man ja dann sowieso nach den Vektoren vom ATC.
alles klar Danke :) hab die Tage generell noch gegoogelt, was zu beachten ist, bzw. durch meine Verwirrung von MDA/DH bin ich auch wieder auf das Thema gestoßen. der RNAV Appr. wird meist an größeren Airports mit mehr Verkehr verwendet, wann man ILS braucht ist eh selbstverständlich :) kannst du mir vielleicht noch erklären, wie das mit MDA/DH ist? MDA ist ja relativ hoch, wobei ich da noch keinen Go-Arround einleiten muss, DH gibts da eig nicht, sondern nur bei Precision Approach? und da muss ich sofort abbrechen. und beim non-precision gibts dafür einen missed appr. point, den finde ich vermutlich auf den charts? ist das so korrekt?
Hallo luke. Vielen Dank. Also, die DH (Decision Height) gibt es nur beim ILS (CAT 1,2 oder 3) und gibt eine Höhe über dem Boden an. Die MDA (Minimum Decision Altitude) ist eine Mindesthöhe basierend auf Höhenmesser QNH. Die MDH (Minimum Decision Height) wird eher selten beim Non-Precision Anflug benutzt und basiert auf Höhe über dem Boden, also Höhenmesser QFE (z.B. in Russland). Wenn man an der Entscheidungshöhe ankommt und hat nicht die notwendige Sicht zur Landebahn bzw. Anfluglichter startet man eigentlich durch. Man kann aber legal in der Mindesthöhe weiterfliegen und dann beim Missed-Approach-Point durchstarten. Der Missed-Approach (laterale Navigation) fängt am Missed-Approach-Point an. Das ist aber der Punkt an dem man spätestens durchstarten muss. Hoffe das war verständlich erklärt? Viele Grüße
In the case where the approach is flown with vertical and horizontal guidance the VNAV minima is used. This approach then is by definition a precision approach to a decision Altitude
Hi thanks for this excelent lesson , today I made a flight KBZN-KJAC landing on Rwy 01 RNAV , I didn't land there for visibility reasons then I made a go around and fly to my alternative KSLC, I used Simbrief.com, Would you show us how is the correct way to divert to alternative , I have a lot of problems trying to put a new route to my alternative, path of descend, etc. thanks and thumbs up!!!!
Hi Yuri. that is actually a really good input! I will put that on my list and should have it online by Thursday next week. It is not that complicated but you need to know where to input the new destination. Regards
Hi. Thanks for the vid. One Question. If you are being vectored by ATC - obviously in heading mode - would you "arm" managed mode (LNAV) when cleared to intercept the final approach? and wait for it to take over from manual heading? I hope this makes sense. Basically how do you transition from being vectored to a managed RNAV app? Thanks!
hätte noch eine Frage, wie hast du die Holding Pattern reinbekommen? in RNAV APPR ist die ja standard, ich habe die nie drin, und weiß auch nicht, wie ich die rein bekomme...
Hi. No, you don’t need L/DEV to fly an RNP approach. There may be some RNP AR authorization requirement with regards to L/DEV. But a standard RNP approach does not require it.
Hallo IIari. Ja, das kann man so unterschreiben. Ich bin immer wieder erstaunt wie realistisch der FSLabs A320 sich verhält. Ich habe heute zum Spaß einen Hydraulikausfall eingespielt. Das ECAM hat alles richtig angezeigt und die Folgefehler wurden einwandfrei simuliert. Echt beeindruckend. VG
Hi. Das Landing Distance Procedure ist nur ein Verfahren, um bei einem Abnormal die zu erwartende Landedistanz zu ermitteln. Dazu benötigt man entweder spezielle Charts oder ein Computerprogramm. Momentan kenne ich aber keine Möglichkeit an diese Charts bzw. Software zu kommen. VG
muss ich bei einem Rnav RNP zulu oder yankee approach irgendwas anders einstellen? bei mir will der einfach nicht automatisch sinken obwohl ich das alles beachtet habe.
Hi. Hast du die eingestellte Höhe im Autopilot nach unten oder oben nachgedreht? Also, wenn du momentan 4000 ft mit Autopilot fliegst, musst du die eingestellte Höhe entweder auf die MDA Höhe einstellen oder eine größere Höhe eindrehen. Dann sollte der Autopilot den Sinkflug einleiten.
Also ...wenn ich den waypoint intercepte wo ich sinken soll und ich kurz vorher schon zb die missed approach alitude eingestellt hab(wenn die höher ist) , bin ich auf der sicheren seite oder wie.
Ich habe mal eine Frage, die jetzt nicht direkt das Thema des Videos betrifft. Am Anfang des Videos sieht man im F-PLN hinter dem Wegpunkt DM552 so ein kleines Dreieck. Meine Wissens bedeutet dies, dass man den Wegpunkt überfliegen muss, und das FMS nicht abkürzen darf. Was passiert nun aber (hier in diesem Addon oder auch im realen Airbus), wenn der Flieger aus irgendwelchen Gründen (z.b Wind etc) diesen Wegpunkt nicht genau getroffen hat? Beim aerosoft Airbus war das teilweise ziemlich ärgerlich, weil das Flugzeug dann meist sofort in eine harte Kurve ging und zu dem Wegpunkt zurückfliegen wollte....
Hallo Burkhard. Stimmt, das Dreieck bedeutet "Overfly" Waypoint. Im realen Airbus habe ich es nie gesehen, dass der Flieger diesen Wegpunkt nicht getroffen hat. Sollten deutliche Kurskorrekturen nötig sein wird der Airbus jedoch bis ans 30* Banklimit gehen. Das ist sein erlaubter Spielraum. Sollte aber eigentlich durch vernünftige Programmierung der Abflugroute nicht vorkommen. VG
I found this very helpful but i notice the ils button is on, is this a requirement for RNAV approach and if not, where does one insert the frequency for the localiser? Ive got to grips with an ils approach but RNAV still has me beat. I'm using the latest Navigraph cycle witn JeeHell FMGS & P3D v4. I must have had 20 attempts at Innsbruck RNAV approach and still can't pull it off. Any pointers greatly appreciated.
@@Blackbox711 True for now, but they obviously released a bit soon and then intent to fix it over time. ILS is somewhat broken at the moment and autoland do not work at all. Still in a year, when its all fixed wow :D
I enjoy the VFR flying in MSFS. The first functional Airliner will be the PMDG 737 which apparently releases Q3/Q4 2021. Still some time to go unfortunately.
As an IR rated pilot and looking at the chart's MDA, I knew you were gonna go around the moment you said what the reported cloud base was 😂. It was so cool to see that and this shows I am learning in class and I can't believe it lol. Awesome video as always and looking forward for more. :D
Thank you John. Wishing you always happy Landings!
I am a new Airbus Pilot and loving art of work you are doing. Thank you so much for the effort to make us understand better. Greetings from Turkey
Thank you. I wish you always happy landings and greetings to Turkey 👍🏼
I recently put myself through A320 recurrent after having not flown the aircraft for some time. I've been in the Boeing world for a few years. It all came back but I can say I wished I'd watched your excellent videos beforehand. Very thorough and professional!
Hi David. Thank you much for the great feedback. All the best to you on the A320.
Haha, I found your channel just yesterday and watched a bunch of videos and thought "This is great stuff, but I'm gonna ask him to do a video explaining an RNAV app and what the differences is from an ILS app". And here it is!
Hello Christopher. Well, good timing I guess ;-) Happy landings
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I'm here preparing to return to flying after maternity leave. thank you for your content
Excellent. Great time to get back to flight simming. Happy Landings 🛬
Another great video! You have a way of making the Airbus "Black Magic" understandable! BTW, I posted a recommendation and link to your vids over on the FSLabs forum. These are too good not to share.
Hello Parker. Thank you for your kind words and the recommendation! Stay tuned for more :-) Regards
Excellent RNAV and Go Around tutorial! Thank you!
Hallo vom Iran.
Ich danke Ihnen fűr Ihre super training .Ich bin Airbus 340 Copilot und das war sehr gut für mich zu lernen die RNAV APP.
Freut mich sehr zu hören. Happy Landings
I really love your tutorials. Finally a real world pilot who knows what he is talking about. This is really highly appreciated. Would be great if you could do a tutorial on how to fly the visual approach to runway 08 at LOWI. Including setting up the fixes in the FMGS.
Hi Carlo. Thank you very much! Also thank you for the input. A video on standard visual approaches is a great idea! And Innsbruck is a nice airport to do this. Regards
Would be great to do the combined LOC/DME 26 then Visual 08 approach. But whatever you choose to do, I'm very much looking forward to your next video. Those are really the most insightful tutorials around! Keep up the great work!
Very clear speaking and very professional tutorial. One of the best I saw! Unfortunately I cannot use this model because my iMac27 runs only with X-Plane11 and there is the unfinished (probably forever) FF A320 and JAR A320...
Thank you. That is a shame. Unfortunately the FF320 is still missing a lot of features and the developer is not saying much about the progress. But I still hope that they will implement more systems like the weather radar and more features in the FMs.
Thank you. Love your video's, keep em coming lol
Incredibly helpful! Thank you!
Thank you so much
Hmmm...I didn't realize the "appr" button needed to be selected for non precision (rnav/gps) approaches. Just shows how little I know about flying! This is a very handy little tutorial......thank you!
Hi Lazy. Well, the Airbus can be tricky to fly. But once you know all the little secrets it can be quite a lot of fun.
Great video. Perfekt.
A320 Instructor Support
11/3 - NON PRECISION APPROACHES (NPA)
The stabilized approach technique is recommended. Reach FAF with CONF FULL and VAPP.
The following particulars do apply to NPAs.
The overall strategy of NPA completion is to fly it « ILS alike » with the same mental image or representation, and similar procedure. Instead of being referred to an ILS beam, the AP/FD guidance modes and associated monitoring data are referred to the FMS F.PLN consolidated by raw data, with the exception of LOC only approaches, where LOC mode and localizer scale are to be used. This explains why the crew must ensure that the FMS data is correct; FMS accuracy, FPLN data (lateral and vertical), proper leg sequencing.
! Initial Approach
- NAV ACCY CROSS CHECK is most essential since it determines: which AP/FD guidance mode may be used, which ND DISPLAY mode may be used and which raw data must be used.
If GPS is PRIMARY or NAV CROSS CHECK is POSITIVE. Managed and selected AP/FD modes may be used, as well as ND ROSE NAV / ARC modes.
If NAV ACCY CHECK is NEGATIVE. Selected AP/FD modes may only be used, and monitoring is achieved with raw data only.
If GPS is PRIMARY at the beginning of initial approach, it will most probably remain primary throughout the approach. However if for any reason GPS PRIMARY is LOST then:
• a GPS defined approach cannot be flown as if ILS signal was lost for ILS approach and • a VOR (NDB …) approach may be continued, as if without GPS. The strategy is merely a function of NAV ACCY CHECK.
- Set the BIRD ON as flying reference. - Set VAPP as SPD CSTR at FAF, in order to get a meaningful (DECEL) pseudo waypoint.
Other drills:
- ILS P/B set to OFF in order to get VDEV BRICK on PFD (except for LOC only approaches, where ILS P/B is set ON and the yoyo is used as VDEV), - NAVAIDS - ensure that approach reference navaid is inserted and display associated needles.
Great set of videos! Thank you so much for sharing! I'm addicted to this A320, can't stop flying it :). Superb add-on.
Hi Mauricio. Thank you very much! I am totally addicted to the FSLabs A320. Brings back some very nice memories of the real airplane! Regards
Where can I get this add on?
Very good video! I had to stop halfway through because it makes me feel like I’m at work, LOL (I’m a major airline pilot)
LOL, then the video has enough infos in it 👍🏼
Great video. Such a wonderful aircraft when in the hands of a very capable operator such as yourself!!
+kneecaps2000 ... Thank you very much for the kind words 👍🏼
Thanks, whenever I watch your videos I am amazed by the ease with which you handle the aircraft. I am still stuck up with MCDU no matter how many videos I watch. I just cant put thing togather. I mean putting in the data.
Just follow the same procedure that I am using. Maybe watch one of my full-flight videos very carefully. Regards
A good news from FSLabs site : "We're also working on the more advanced "pro-level" versions, but we're not ready to disclose any info on this just yet." Marketing ? Thanks also for this new interesting video.
Hi Jean. I am afraid that the pro-version will be very, very expensive and aimed at big customers like flight-schools etc. If it is affordable I will get the pro-version. Regards
jean Bam the pro version will be targeted towards cockpit builders and will have failures and networkable features. There are other avionics software with these features out now or soon - Jeehell FMGS (free) and Prosim Airbus.
OK Thanks !
JOHN PILOT
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@Blackbox711 Many thanks for your answer. It's crystal-clear as ever!
Should you have been a teacher ( as I am in high school) you would have been an Amazing one ! please keep on your state-of-the-art and unrivalled tutorials !
As usual, you always make tricky matters easier and clearer with your outstanding explanations !
In real world, in similar weather conditions, could a pilot continue the approach and secure safe and legal landing?
Once again, thanks for your expertise!
Hi John. Thank you for your kind words. An approach procedure that ends in a manual landing (i.e. no autoland) requires the pilots to aquire certain visual references latest at the approach procedure minimum. Because from that point onwards the pilots will continue visually to land the aircraft. If that visual reference (runway and surrounding clearly in sight) isn’t attained at the minimum you need to go missed approach.
@@Blackbox711 Many thanks for your answer. It's crystal-clear as ever!
Should you have been a teacher ( as I am in high school) you would have been an Amazing one ! please keep on your state-of-the-art and unrivalled tutorials !
Thanks man, very instructive and well explained!
Thanks again!
Blackbox711 , great video as always. No big deal but, I see the blue arming arrow is missing on the FAF, but again, great add on!
Hi Gregory. Well observed! For some reason the blue descent arrow doesn't show up for me. Maybe a bug in the simulator. Regards
Thanks a lot for all the information
Thank you for watching 👍🏼
Very interesting. In case you still get too much fog to land, should you ask ATC for an alternate airport ? Jean-michel.
If the weather conditions are so bad that you can’t perform the approach then yes, you would need to divert to your alternate airport.
@@Blackbox711 thank you. Logical but not so easy to do in practice certainly.
Awesome video, so informative.
Much appreciated for your contribution Blackbox711. My question is when we have to make a temperature corrections like execuating this approach, in what altitudes we have to add those correction values? I mean from MSA to FAF and other altitudes that published at chart or only the FAF and MDA for LNAV? Thank you so much.
awesome as always
Thank you Pete!
Hello BBX, 😉 found it. Thank you very much. Waiting for a new great tuto.
Wow! Great videos! You are a
pro!
Another great tutorial!,but...i have a question...Is it possible to use FINAL APPROACH mode if only LNAV minima published on the approach chart?
Congratulations for your videos. They are very instructive.
May I ask what sky and clouds add ons do you use?
Hi Javier. I use Rex essentials. Regards
Thanks a lot for the video (and all the others)! @ 00:54, shouldn't the precision be reduced to 0.3nm for the GPS approach (compared to 1nm in the terminal area)?
+Spock 540 .. correct. The FMS should do it automatically, but to make sure irl you would enter 0.3
Best to check the APP chart also as some approaches require a higher precision E.G NZQN=0.1nm
0.3 is a bit more common than 0.1 (that you may find most likely in New Zealand).
Going through my reccurent sim, I just got an explanation: forcing it on the MCDU will trigger an alarm on the PFD if the accuracy decreases. Otherwise, the value will change on the PROG page without other notice.
I love how you say minimum
Staviation it’s not him saying minimum
great tutorial sir! just wandering if this procedure can be use in the FF320 in xplane
The Pilot Waypoint feature works in the FF320. However the Fix Info page doesn’t.
Blackbox711 but can FF320 follow the VDEV with APPR on?
Good tutorial video , please make video about approach different selected and fully managed A/P both Non precision Approach and Precision approach, good job thanks
+Andhika Satrya Geodi .. Please have a look at the section 'FSLabs A320 Basics'. There you will find videos to all of those requests. Regards
Hi, great video. How can you make the pfd nd and fmgs bigger when clicking on it i have the same game but it wont work Thank you!
Normally when you hover the mouse pointer over the edge of the popped out display you should be able to change the size of those windows
Thanks for all this :)
You're very welcome! Thank you for watching. Happy landings
Great video, do i need to press approach for pmdg as well?
+Rahul Isaac ... thank you 👍🏻. No, on the Boeings you just select LNAV/VNAV
Oh thanks, glad i was doing the rnav approach right for ngx!
Really great video. I don't think the Aerosoft Airbus handles RNAV in the same way. Is the Flifgtsim Labs model more accurate?
Hello Malcolm. Thank you very much. The FSLabs A320 is extremely well modelled. I flew the A320 in real life and am amazed at the level of detail in the system behaviour, the ECAM checklist and the manual flight handling of this sim. I know it is expensive, but if you are the sort of flightsim enthusiast that wants more than just fly around, then this sim is worth every penny. And no, I don't get sponsored by FSLabs :-)
Another great video, thank you. Have you had any problems with the A320X? I have this zig zag when on approach, directly I arm APP the aircraft starts this crazy zig zag! I have updated the Mag Dec with the tools from Herv Sors, but nothing seems to work. I wondered if you had experienced this behavior? I understand from FSL that the aircraft would do this in real life if the ILS was wrongly aligned. I must admit I'm stumped.
Hi Mike. No, strangely enough I had absolutely no problems up to now. Even the FPS is very good. Guess I am lucky? Regards
Wow! wasn't expecting that go around. In an RNAV GPS APP, would you descent in selected or managed mode ?
Neither was I :-) I set the ceiling at 500 ft, however I guess I set the visibility a little bid to low. I would always prefer to fly the RNAV GPS in managed mode. Guess I am lazy regarding managing the descent rate on my own. Regards
Blackbox711 great job in your managed mode! One of my past instructors teach me pretty well to use FPA during non precision approach. (I did plenty of them on Greek islands)
It is funny but could be tricky 😬
is there any frequency you have to tune or is it just automatic?
You just have to select the appropriate approach in the MCDU
Thanks for this great video, Blackbox711. One question, if you had kept going with the approach, at which point would the AP have disengaged? I know it's not allowed to autoland when doing an RNAV approach, but from a purely technical point of view, wouldn't the plane be perfectly capable of doing it? If not, why not?
Hi. If programmed and certified the AP would be abled to fly the RNAV and do an autoland. However you would also need a position updating unit at the runway to get the accuracy to an acceptable level. In the end we are talking about a GPS based approach
Ah okay that makes sense, thanks!
Hey, what about raim prediction, do you have any way of checking raim I.e. Sufficient predicted gps satellite availability in flight? The Garmin G1000 offers this feature and requires you to check the gps availability for the ETA at destination prior to starting a gps approach...
Excellent video btw, nice surprise towards the end :D
Hi. Well, this is pushing the envelope a little too far for fsx/p3d. Of course in real life this is a must do, however in the fsx/p3d you always have an sufficient amount of satellites available. Regards
Blackbox711 oh yeah of course, in the sim I don't give a shit if I have satellites or not :D I was just wondering if in the real thing there is such a thing implemented, and how easy it is to access, or weather you have to just rely on rain prediction notams during preplanning. But I guess there must be like a page in the fms somewhere to check that right?
Thank you
Thank you for watching
What about referring to the QRH checklist?
Sorry, not sure what you mean?
Please clarify your comment at around 7min 15 secs where you state that on the VLS check VLS on PFD is 2 knots higher than as displayed on the FMS so you will add 2 knots to the approach speed.
I cannot see the VLS displayed on the PFD
As another point I have been having difficulty with Non precision approach in getting the aircraft to descend and follow the brick. I am hoping that your video will help me to achieve this.
Thanks.
Mike
Hi. I have another video where I explain exactly why there can be a difference between the MCDU VLS and the VLS displayed in the PFD. Have a look here:
ua-cam.com/video/U0_g4trYMuw/v-deo.html
I cannot believe that you cannot see the VLS in the PFD. It is the top of the orange rectangular are in the lower part of the Speed scale on the PFD.
In order to enable a descend you need to select a lower altitude on the FCU (autopilot panel).
Thank-you Blackbox711.I have watched the video you mention already. I was interested in your comment that when using with TRK/FPA armed, that on the FS Labs A320X you need to pull the FPA button and insert the correct decent angle. The way you said this and being a real airbus pilot yourself made me wonder if this is not quite how it is in the real aircraft. Of interest is that I learnt how to do non precision approaches in the Aerosoft airbus A320/321/£18/319. I never had a problem with getting the aircraft to follow the brick in the Aerosoft simulation. I was taught in the aerosoft simulation to arm TRK/FPA. If I left it in HDG/V/S would the FSLabs follow the brick. I have tried putting the the altitude down to the minimums after passing the FAF but it does not descend following the brick. I would be grateful for your advice which is much appreciated.
By the way I am studying Mike Ray's A320 book to ensure I understand VLS.
Mike
+Michael Houghton .. Like in the FSLabs and real life, you need to pull on the TRK/FPA to engage the mode and habe the aircraft descend. The Autopilot will not start the descent automatically with this mode. The only automatic descent is possible with the APCH mode button. Regards
Hello! Do you have to do a RAIM Check before the approach?
RAIM check has to be done during briefing i.e. prior departure.
TE: JAN 2001 Page 54 UDY0102
- If SELECTED Approach • Overfly FAF, properly identified, and • select TRK = Final APPR CRS, • select FPA = Final APPR path (actually start the final descent 0.3 NM before FAF).
- Use ATHR and Managed speed. - If GPS PRIMARY, monitor VDEV/XTK/F.PLN on ND. For VOR, ADF approaches, monitor Raw data. - Set Go Around altitude ONCE the A/C altitude is below that altitude.
Reaching MDA
- If visual and properly established, continue & land with AP OFF and both FDs OFF.
Yep. But you are quoting a NPA without FINAL APP guidance. Don’t you use that mode?
Thanks for the video! Also, I have a question. In some RNAV procedures, the FPA/TRK button is also pressed along with the APPR button. But in this video, only APPR button was engaged. So is the FPA/TRK button necessary at all in the first place?
Hi. That is an interesting observation. I can't speak officially for any airline and their procedures, but in my opinion when using the APPR button on the FCU and therefore vertical guidance for the approach then I would use the FD crossbars and not the FPV. Regards
Hi and thanks for your videos.Very informative indeed. I use only XP and i have the FF A320. I tried to perform the RNAV 08 approach to LOWI following your instructions but always i ended to be very high and GO. Do you know if this is because of the FF A320 or maybe i do something wrong?
Thanks
Hello Nick. Yes, at the moment the FF320 seems not to have a correct drag model with flaps and gear down. Also the descent profile is steeper at 3.6 degrees.
Thanks a lot for answering. I thought that i did something wrong. I had to GO twice and finally i did a visual approach to land. Hope FF will fix this soon.
I hope so too
@@Blackbox711 oof, literally watching this video as im doing this approach 😢
Hi sir, im sorry im not a Fan of Fslabs, but can i apply this tutorial in Aerosoft series? I love your videos, so im hoping that you can answer my question. Thank you! :)
Hi. Unfortunately I don’t use the Aerosoft A320. And so I don’t know how well that addon simulates the -
A320 systems
@@Blackbox711 Ahmmm, it ok nevermind haha.. Do you have tutorial for FSLABS Vor approach?
wie immer großartiges Video! hab schon eine Menge gelernt von dir, freu mich auf jedes weitere Video, und vor allem weißt du ja wirklich um was es geht :)
hätte mal ne blöde Frage, da ich doch noch nicht so fit im fliegen bin: wann fliegt man einen RNAV Appr. und wann einen ILS? wenn nur eines von beiden vorhanden ist, eh klar, bzw. wenn der Flieger für eine Variante nicht die Ausstattung hat (wie meist bei kleineren Props) aber am A320, kann ich mir das quasi nach Lust und Laune aussuchen, hat es was mit dem Wetter zu tun oder sonst was? wobei das vermutlich nur für den Sim spannend sein wird, im echten Leben fliegt man ja dann sowieso nach den Vektoren vom ATC.
alles klar Danke :) hab die Tage generell noch gegoogelt, was zu beachten ist, bzw. durch meine Verwirrung von MDA/DH bin ich auch wieder auf das Thema gestoßen. der RNAV Appr. wird meist an größeren Airports mit mehr Verkehr verwendet, wann man ILS braucht ist eh selbstverständlich :) kannst du mir vielleicht noch erklären, wie das mit MDA/DH ist? MDA ist ja relativ hoch, wobei ich da noch keinen Go-Arround einleiten muss, DH gibts da eig nicht, sondern nur bei Precision Approach? und da muss ich sofort abbrechen. und beim non-precision gibts dafür einen missed appr. point, den finde ich vermutlich auf den charts? ist das so korrekt?
Hallo luke. Vielen Dank. Also, die DH (Decision Height) gibt es nur beim ILS (CAT 1,2 oder 3) und gibt eine Höhe über dem Boden an. Die MDA (Minimum Decision Altitude) ist eine Mindesthöhe basierend auf Höhenmesser QNH. Die MDH (Minimum Decision Height) wird eher selten beim Non-Precision Anflug benutzt und basiert auf Höhe über dem Boden, also Höhenmesser QFE (z.B. in Russland). Wenn man an der Entscheidungshöhe ankommt und hat nicht die notwendige Sicht zur Landebahn bzw. Anfluglichter startet man eigentlich durch. Man kann aber legal in der Mindesthöhe weiterfliegen und dann beim Missed-Approach-Point durchstarten. Der Missed-Approach (laterale Navigation) fängt am Missed-Approach-Point an. Das ist aber der Punkt an dem man spätestens durchstarten muss. Hoffe das war verständlich erklärt? Viele Grüße
Why you don't engage trk/fpa with Rnav ?
You could. I prefer the crossbars on the PFD however.
that was an another very nice Video. :) Thank you.
it would be also very nice, if you could make also the ATC communication :)
Hi. Thank you. I would love to add some real atc. However I would need somebody to tell me what addons are good. Regards
Um, you can download a VATSIM client or IVAO. That's real time ATC with real people handling CLEARENCE, GND, TOWER, APPR, CONTROL
Hello There, how are doing? So, just to make sure about it, RNAV is not considered a precision approach , right ?
Hi. Not at the moment, no. But I think in a couple of years it will get approved for precision approaches and even autoland.
@@Blackbox711 thank you ...
In the case where the approach is flown with vertical and horizontal guidance the VNAV minima is used. This approach then is by definition a precision approach to a decision Altitude
Hi thanks for this excelent lesson , today I made a flight KBZN-KJAC landing on Rwy 01 RNAV , I didn't land there for visibility reasons then I made a go around and fly to my alternative KSLC, I used Simbrief.com, Would you show us how is the correct way to divert to alternative , I have a lot of problems trying to put a new route to my alternative, path of descend, etc. thanks and thumbs up!!!!
Hi Yuri. that is actually a really good input! I will put that on my list and should have it online by Thursday next week. It is not that complicated but you need to know where to input the new destination. Regards
Hi Yuri. Thank you, excellent input! I will make the video by Thursday next week. Stay tuned!
Hi. Thanks for the vid. One Question. If you are being vectored by ATC - obviously in heading mode - would you "arm" managed mode (LNAV) when cleared to intercept the final approach? and wait for it to take over from manual heading? I hope this makes sense. Basically how do you transition from being vectored to a managed RNAV app?
Thanks!
Yes thats what you do
Why did the ap trip off during GA
he took over flight manually for a few moments to pitch up the nose and increase thrust
Wie kann man eine Warteschleife einprogrammieren?
hätte noch eine Frage, wie hast du die Holding Pattern reinbekommen? in RNAV APPR ist die ja standard, ich habe die nie drin, und weiß auch nicht, wie ich die rein bekomme...
Hallo Lukas. Schau dir am besten mein Video "LVO Fully Automatic Approach" an. Dort am Anfang erkläre ich wie man ein Holding eingibt. Gruss
I thought you turn the FD off before landing
The either go off automatically or revert to V/S | HDG depending on the software standard
The issue with FSLABS, is that it does not have the L/DEV indication. Which makes this a very unreal RNP approach. You must have both V/DEV and L/DEV.
Hi. No, you don’t need L/DEV to fly an RNP approach. There may be some RNP AR authorization requirement with regards to L/DEV. But a standard RNP approach does not require it.
how to implement secondary flight plan?
+Fariz Faiz ... it is not implemented yet
Missing EDDM 😢
Wie gefält dir die A320-X im allgemeinen? Das realistischte moderne Verkehrsflugzeug fuers FSX?
Hallo IIari. Ja, das kann man so unterschreiben. Ich bin immer wieder erstaunt wie realistisch der FSLabs A320 sich verhält. Ich habe heute zum Spaß einen Hydraulikausfall eingespielt. Das ECAM hat alles richtig angezeigt und die Folgefehler wurden einwandfrei simuliert. Echt beeindruckend. VG
Könntest du einen Video machen um den Landing Distance Procedure zu erklären?
Hi. Das Landing Distance Procedure ist nur ein Verfahren, um bei einem Abnormal die zu erwartende Landedistanz zu ermitteln. Dazu benötigt man entweder spezielle Charts oder ein Computerprogramm. Momentan kenne ich aber keine Möglichkeit an diese Charts bzw. Software zu kommen. VG
muss ich bei einem Rnav RNP zulu oder yankee approach irgendwas anders einstellen? bei mir will der einfach nicht automatisch sinken obwohl ich das alles beachtet habe.
Hi. Hast du die eingestellte Höhe im Autopilot nach unten oder oben nachgedreht? Also, wenn du momentan 4000 ft mit Autopilot fliegst, musst du die eingestellte Höhe entweder auf die MDA Höhe einstellen oder eine größere Höhe eindrehen. Dann sollte der Autopilot den Sinkflug einleiten.
Also ...wenn ich den waypoint intercepte wo ich sinken soll und ich kurz vorher schon zb die missed approach alitude eingestellt hab(wenn die höher ist) , bin ich auf der sicheren seite oder wie.
Ich habe mal eine Frage, die jetzt nicht direkt das Thema des Videos betrifft. Am Anfang des Videos sieht man im F-PLN hinter dem Wegpunkt DM552 so ein kleines Dreieck. Meine Wissens bedeutet dies, dass man den Wegpunkt überfliegen muss, und das FMS nicht abkürzen darf.
Was passiert nun aber (hier in diesem Addon oder auch im realen Airbus), wenn der Flieger aus irgendwelchen Gründen (z.b Wind etc) diesen Wegpunkt nicht genau getroffen hat?
Beim aerosoft Airbus war das teilweise ziemlich ärgerlich, weil das Flugzeug dann meist sofort in eine harte Kurve ging und zu dem Wegpunkt zurückfliegen wollte....
Hallo Burkhard. Stimmt, das Dreieck bedeutet "Overfly" Waypoint. Im realen Airbus habe ich es nie gesehen, dass der Flieger diesen Wegpunkt nicht getroffen hat. Sollten deutliche Kurskorrekturen nötig sein wird der Airbus jedoch bis ans 30* Banklimit gehen. Das ist sein erlaubter Spielraum. Sollte aber eigentlich durch vernünftige Programmierung der Abflugroute nicht vorkommen. VG
I found this very helpful but i notice the ils button is on, is this a requirement for RNAV approach and if not, where does one insert the frequency for the localiser? Ive got to grips with an ils approach but RNAV still has me beat. I'm using the latest Navigraph cycle witn JeeHell FMGS & P3D v4. I must have had 20 attempts at Innsbruck RNAV approach and still can't pull it off. Any pointers greatly appreciated.
haha you read about those cringy turks that went below rnav minima in nepal
The sound and graphics suck compares to fs2020 :)
Well the only thing working in MSFS is the small prop aircraft.
@@Blackbox711 True for now, but they obviously released a bit soon and then intent to fix it over time.
ILS is somewhat broken at the moment and autoland do not work at all. Still in a year, when its all fixed wow :D
I enjoy the VFR flying in MSFS. The first functional Airliner will be the PMDG 737 which apparently releases Q3/Q4 2021. Still some time to go unfortunately.
@@Blackbox711 I am more into Airbus myself.