@@that1guy82 yeah, or they might be able to get away w/ the exhaust outlet being under water if they put some up & down U-shaped bends or a check valve in the pipe so the engine doesn't get flooded every time the motor dies
You should use an LPG carburettor to control and regulate the airflow from the tanks. That way you'll have stable pressure the can react to throttle position in conjunction with the normal petrol carbie
@@timjohnun4297 There's a sealant the Jeep guys use to make their distributor caps water proof for crossing rivers. Waterproofing electrical could be the next step.
To make it more efficient, you can add a pressure regulator so that the pressure is kept constant without air being wasted. Also, maybe some kind of exhaust gas recirculation to use any unburnt air/fuel, such as in your video of running Ladas on exhaust gasses
Roadkill did it with multiple large compressed air tanks and it made a good amount of power and yes like the other guy said it's called CAS, Compressed Air Supercharging
I tried something similar to my 56 Ford I6 engine. I hooked a heater blower motor up to the single barrel carburetor. Had a switch inside. The engine would not run with the blower on. Try to start it with the bower on and it would not start. Start without the bower, fine; turn blower on, engine dies. A carburetor needs atmospheric pressure to regulate the gas flow. Gas was being blown under pressure through the metering jets. Tried hitting the switch at speed and full throttle and it did not die. Conclusion is it needed to be fuel injected and carburetorated..
Will a Lada run on oxygen and acetylene as a mixture? Make a crude carburetor with oxygen coming into the air cleaner snorkel and the acetylene coming to a port under the throttle plate. Send the gases through a common torch handle. Find a way to roll the torch control valves with the throttle. Then send the gases to their separate ports. It may not give enough mixture control but, maybe Vlad can come up with a more effective means of getting a wider range of control over the torch handle.
yes. no. acetylene is hella explosive. also explosively degrades above 14psi. one atmosphere. without oxygen. mixed with oxy, weee. kaboom. its not a nice _conflagration_ or slow burn, its a fast, explosive detonation as it ALL goes up. poor lada will end up as a pile of dust... a bit like the clear crankcase did! without the oxygen it will work.. sort of. acetylene also has a huge variation in flammable air/fuel ratios.
I think it would be nice to have a compressor attached to the engine so you can rebuild pressure in tanks as its running and maybe you can use smaller tank also.
I don't think the laws of physics will let you get more than you put in. It would require even more energy to run the compressor. I won't lie, the thought entered my head as well.
@mike-drums-maine What he described is basically just a positive displacement supercharger with more steps and less performance. Fuel consumption would increase, but it could certainly be done.
@@johnfox3845 so... jake brake on a truck. engine becomes the compressor. regen braking, cant see that increasing fuel consumption. air in tanks. cooled down after compression. screw 8kg, which is basically 8:1 CR. aim for scuba pressures. ~200kg. pump it straight into the combustion chamber just before ignition. cold air. reducing detonation at those pressures. no pumping loss in engine having to re-compress air that just a second ago was already compressed much higher than its about to be compressed to... really cold air. so cold it may have to be passed through a heat exchange in the exhaust system to get it hot enough... expanding compressed air cools down, it has to absorb heat from somewhere or it doesnt expand... of course, not for constant running, just a squirt when required.
@@didnotwantthis ik! but i wish to see how longer can engine run with some pressure back in tanks. Should make it last some extra time. Another thing is to send back the excess of pressure back to tanks and use it again instead of using a relief valve. I dont know if this is even possible but this is garage54 they can try anything.
You should get a diesel tow behind compressor that puts out like 375 cfm @ 100 psi. Then maybe that would be enough air to act like a blower for continuous forced induction and make a ton of boost.
There was a company working on this. Its called CAS(compressed air supercharging) they used scuba tanks and application specific tank valve with a regulator to control the pressure.
1). Blow through carb 2).Lots more fuel 3).Rip all that off put a NOS fogger kit lol. Nah you need windows or flaps in the top can that can be pulled open by the vacuum of the carb when running on no air, then when it's pressurized it slams the flaps shut and into the carb it goes. Some European cars have similar things on the radiator fan shrouds. At speed they're forced open by wind/air pushing through the shroud. When stopped, they shut and the fan does all the work. I don't know just a thought! Y'all do some crazy stuff I really enjoy watching you guys!
I like that Vlad was very risky on this one for the purpose of an experiment we all wanted to see, if that thing does a backfire that "receiver" tank would fly sky high.
With bigger injectors I wonder what sort of quarter mile time you could deliver? When the compressed air is released it is also very cold (great for combustion) which is better than turbo or supercharger which gets the air hot so it has to go into an intercooler, this air will be much colder than that. I have often wondered if a drag car would be more efficient if it carried cold compressed air....
Some shop made a compressed air boosted car (I think it was a drag car?) I just remember seeing a video of the tank in the trunk and I believe it was on a dyno. They may have even opened a dump valve in one video to show how much air pressure was in there. It held enough air for like a 1/4 mile power boost.... It's been ages since I saw it, but it was on UA-cam.
I have a new one for you. Cleetus ran a bone stock LS the other day on a mix of ethanol/Nitromethane, +60% HP/TQ It was WILD, NO BOOST, NA. HP went from like 280 wheel HP to 490+ Run a LADA on mix of ethanol/Nitro, they put in like 49 degrees of timing.
Replace the valve springs with air cylinders, and set those air tank regulators to 35 bar or atm. Now, you will have a formula one Lada engine! Use brake line to carry the air to the air springs. Should be able to rev very high......if the connecting rods hold up.
Во-первых, ты молодец! Вот мое предложение, берите прямой выхлоп от Жигулей, прямо из выпускного коллектора. Добавьте большой винтовочный глушитель на конец выхлопной трубы. Вы можете найти схему винтовочного глушителя в разрезе и сделать его таким, используя перегородки и прочее. Еще раз спасибо!
Another great project. I have a sugestion for you guys you might like to try. Back in the late 60s I was an apprentice mechanic and I used to visit the men next door who was a carpenter and a very smart guy, Anyway he had this idea to make cars safer, this was before airbags and crumple zones. He said car makers need to make cars safer in the event of an accident. His idea was to fit the front and back bumpers on springs so that if you had a accident to springs would absorb the inpact and shock of the accident an so preventing damage to the body of the car and also keeping the people in the car safer. I think this would be a perfect project for Garage 54. Mount the front and rear bumper on coil springs and do some crash tests and see what happens. I hope you do it, thank you so much for your channel.
I really like these 4x4 station wagons. They are my guilty pleasure to watch roving around on russian youtube videos. I think these things are Lada's right? There is just something so neat about something built so simple and sturdy.
to do that "corect" you need to set it up as a carbed turbo. so enclose the carb and have a fuel pump + regulator that can feed over the pressure. ten high octane fuel and go up in bar until it say bang ;)
Hey that was one great experiment! You guy’s impress me every time with your insane concoctions!👌😂👍you guy’s should try to make a James Bond type submersible car!
This setup is very close to the air powered dragster that Don Garlits made back in the '60s I believe. Make the crank and cam a one to one, probably shorten the duration a bit, feed a hundred psi to the intake and HOLD ON. The NHRA banned it very quickly!
When adjusting the air, the valves on the cylinders should have been fully open and the pressure regulators used to control air into the engine. This would have resulted in the regulators automatically adjusting for the air requirements of the engine resulting in much better and more reliable performance.
It needs efi and a boost referenced fuel pressure regulator. Then hook.the thrittle to the tank regulator to supply boost under full throttle. Its been done on toymakerz on a drag car.
All you need is an intake and a big check valve in the accumulator for the engine to run naturally aspirated, and you have yourself a short-term forced-induction power boost when you open the tanks.
I wonder what they could if they worked to shed as much weight as possible. Using carbon fiber or fiberglass tanks. Install a solar powered air compressor. So as the car sits, the compressor could recharge the cylinders. Also have something that runs only when you press the accelerator. So when you’re not accelerating. There’s no air being used.
Of course this would work vlad, what you think they make nitrous oxide cans for? Now how effective can an ac compressor be to pressurize an Air tank upto about 300psi, and run about 20psi into intake, gotta account for intake flow rates at given load rpms too
A diaphragm or a air bladder might be easier to manage than blow off ls and other accessories in addition to not wasting any of the supplied air an elastic accumulator if you will
I don't know where the error is, but towards the end of the video the English voiceover was saying that the engine was running lean producing black smoke when in fact it is a rich mixture that produces black smoke
How about having a Kickdown Switch operated Stored Air Injection Boost? Inject at 1 bar above atmospheric, with a 100mm diameter Reed Valve upstream to Contain backflow during boost, and Automatically Open pass-through during Normal Aspiration.
I'd like to see an engine run with a different firing order. Instead of 1-3-2-4 it would be interesting to see 1-4 2-3 Firing 2 cylinders at once, 1-4 because you can cut and reweld the camshaft to sync cyl 1 and 4, so 1-4 mirror each other. Repeat for 2-3 It would be very shaky but mildly interesting. Might need a larger flywheel, or it'll break the crank.
😂 The first tank cracked me up.... A 2L engine idling at 600rpm would have that empty real quick.... Need about 120L at 300bar and add a bigger fuel pump and rising rate fuel pressure regulator/carby built for boost 👌 then you will have the power and range to take that submarine for a swim.
This is pretty dope but I always wondered if you couldn’t feed a compressed air tank with a turbo. Like, imagine that for average drive you could charge your air tank with the BOV and then dump the compressed air to alleviate the turbo lag.
@@AxelP33 correct. Ford had a rear bumper tank made from titanium that gets supplied with boost pressure during no/part throttle. When you use full throttle, the butterfly valve releases tank pressure into intake manifold. It technically wasn't cheating. But what Toyota did in wrc was a whole different ball game
I’ve been wanting to do this on my own. Because I figured it’s like nitrous where it can help boost compression by forcing compressed air into the engine
This is like a DRY nitrous system. The car should run way longer then 10mins, in India they use 15kg - 20kg propane tanks feed into the intake with electric pressure valve. Last way longer then 10mins for sure
Immagine a compressor, continously using the compressed air system to basically feed high pressure air into the manifold and pretty much replacing the need for a turbo.
There's an idea in fueling the exhaust gases to a turbo (to get a reduction) and to then compress air and then feed the exhaust gases to the engine to re-burn. Something along those lines..
All right I enjoy always your videos like to push the envelopes this is great ultimately if you can get that car running on air like this for 10 minutes basically you can do roughly 10 minutes I would be a good distance if you're running at 60 km so you could basically do a good 6 km in about 10 minutes i I think you can do more than theirs as well I definitely think you can push it more you're running 60 horsepower motor I think you could run. Motor on 8 hp even less than this maybe adjusting some gears seem able to get a little bit more speed basically lure the RPM ultimately love the video keep on pushing the boundaries I wish you all the best of your organization you guys are amazing
should re do this using 100% o2 instead of compressed air as those cylinders only hold 10.3 cubic meters of air at 20,000 KPa each where if you supplement apnopheric air with 100% o2 might get different resaults
this simply is not forced induction. this is removing the abundance of air and creating your own ambient air pressure. if you want this to work, you put a turbo on the system, EFI, and you store the leftover air from the blowoff valve into the air tank and use it like NO2 Ford did this in rally sport, and it was considered cheating.
In America there's less people who are willing to tri this but there is a system u can buy that does the tanks but for a v8 like drag system for big power no parasite loss of power
Immagine a compressor, continously using the compressed air system to basically feed high pressure air into the manifold and pretty much replacing the need for a turbo.
Yes closed air system and a closed fuel system I would say you all could make that thing run and drive completely under water buy water proofing the firing system.
Ok 48 seconds in..1.2 -1.6 litres displacement 4 cylinders 720 degrees per full firing each cylinder idle 600rpm. 300 times 1.2 -1.6 per min 360 to 480 litres a min at idle. I forgot how much air is stored, which was in kilos..pressure..? 50 litres at 8 kilos, just 1.2 xr atmospheric - will run for between 7.5 and 10 seconds.
Iv seen a drag car with forced pressurized air for boost. It's insane how much air just 1 pass the car takes it has 4 or 6 huge high pressure tanks. Search for it on youtube.
Now if there were a small air compressor attached to the engine, it could add a little back into the system to keep it going just a bit longer, kind of how they have regen braking on electric cars, puts a little back in for a bit more range... :P
@@mikeleschber33 No, I mean like, a compressor, that thing that sits atop a compressed air tank to pump air in at high pressure, and plumbed in via means that it goes right into the air tanks for them to be lightly topped up, thus assistingin keeping the thing going for more than 10 minutes...
Put a 5h horse power horizintal shaft honda in a lada and then use compressed air to run it. I would be interested in seeing how many miles you could drive it with tje same amount of compressed air you used on this build.
Wonder what using O2 would do - denser and dangerous... But if I understood what they did here, that was just compressed air (atmosphere) - not Oxygen bottles.
But does this configuration need fuel? compressed air has energy stored that can do work. The amount of energy stored in compressed air is equal to the volume times the pressure (cubic meter times Force per square meter is equal to Force times meters, Nm, or Joule.) So the energy in those tanks is 2 * 0.04 (40 liters, or 0.1 cubic meter) * 1e7Pa (100 Bar, or 1e7Pa =N/m^2 )=0.8 million joules
it would be interesting to see the car running fully submerged with this technique
Exhaust would need modification to stay above the water, but cool to see a sub lada
@@that1guy82 yeah, or they might be able to get away w/ the exhaust outlet being under water if they put some up & down U-shaped bends or a check valve in the pipe so the engine doesn't get flooded every time the motor dies
Ignition would die immediately, would need to seal up an old school diesel engine to do that
He said he’s gonna buy himself a wetsuit!!
Why did he keep showing the gauge that never moved?
You should use an LPG carburettor to control and regulate the airflow from the tanks. That way you'll have stable pressure the can react to throttle position in conjunction with the normal petrol carbie
That's exactly what I was thinking, my brother is an alternative fuel conversion professional, besides being a mechanical scientist 😂
Would a form of rising rate regulator help? Or perhaps a couple of different ones..?, one for the fuel one for the pressure vessel or air intake
This Lada could run under water! Incredible!
I think you are right
Until it runs out of pressure
@@rootbeer666 Regardless, they took a Niva and half made it into 007s Lotus Esprit/Submarine from The Spy Who Loved Me.
Until the second the ignition gets wet
@@timjohnun4297 There's a sealant the Jeep guys use to make their distributor caps water proof for crossing rivers. Waterproofing electrical could be the next step.
To make it more efficient, you can add a pressure regulator so that the pressure is kept constant without air being wasted. Also, maybe some kind of exhaust gas recirculation to use any unburnt air/fuel, such as in your video of running Ladas on exhaust gasses
Would be cool to see a naturally aspirated engine with a port to use compressed air as boost without a turbo or supercharger
You should Google “compressed air supercharging.”
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Roadkill did it with multiple large compressed air tanks and it made a good amount of power and yes like the other guy said it's called CAS, Compressed Air Supercharging
I tried something similar to my 56 Ford I6 engine. I hooked a heater blower motor up to the single barrel carburetor. Had a switch inside. The engine would not run with the blower on. Try to start it with the bower on and it would not start. Start without the bower, fine; turn blower on, engine dies. A carburetor needs atmospheric pressure to regulate the gas flow. Gas was being blown under pressure through the metering jets. Tried hitting the switch at speed and full throttle and it did not die.
Conclusion is it needed to be fuel injected and carburetorated..
Hello from Oklahoma, USA. We’ve been watching y’all for several years.
Will a Lada run on oxygen and acetylene as a mixture?
Make a crude carburetor with oxygen coming into the air cleaner snorkel and the acetylene coming to a port under the throttle plate.
Send the gases through a common torch handle. Find a way to roll the torch control valves with the throttle. Then send the gases to their separate ports. It may not give enough mixture control but, maybe Vlad can come up with a more effective means of getting a wider range of control over the torch handle.
yes.
no.
acetylene is hella explosive.
also explosively degrades above 14psi. one atmosphere. without oxygen.
mixed with oxy, weee. kaboom. its not a nice _conflagration_ or slow burn, its a fast, explosive detonation as it ALL goes up.
poor lada will end up as a pile of dust... a bit like the clear crankcase did!
without the oxygen it will work.. sort of. acetylene also has a huge variation in flammable air/fuel ratios.
@@paradiselost9946 Such technicalities will not stop Vlad and his crew from such an experiment!
@@BlackPill-pu4vi and i hope they do!
I think it would be nice to have a compressor attached to the engine so you can rebuild pressure in tanks as its running and maybe you can use smaller tank also.
I think you've just designed a less efficient supercharger.
I don't think the laws of physics will let you get more than you put in. It would require even more energy to run the compressor. I won't lie, the thought entered my head as well.
@mike-drums-maine
What he described is basically just a positive displacement supercharger with more steps and less performance. Fuel consumption would increase, but it could certainly be done.
@@johnfox3845
so... jake brake on a truck. engine becomes the compressor. regen braking, cant see that increasing fuel consumption.
air in tanks. cooled down after compression.
screw 8kg, which is basically 8:1 CR.
aim for scuba pressures. ~200kg.
pump it straight into the combustion chamber just before ignition. cold air. reducing detonation at those pressures. no pumping loss in engine having to re-compress air that just a second ago was already compressed much higher than its about to be compressed to...
really cold air. so cold it may have to be passed through a heat exchange in the exhaust system to get it hot enough... expanding compressed air cools down, it has to absorb heat from somewhere or it doesnt expand...
of course, not for constant running, just a squirt when required.
@@didnotwantthis ik! but i wish to see how longer can engine run with some pressure back in tanks. Should make it last some extra time. Another thing is to send back the excess of pressure back to tanks and use it again instead of using a relief valve. I dont know if this is even possible but this is garage54 they can try anything.
You should get a diesel tow behind compressor that puts out like 375 cfm @ 100 psi. Then maybe that would be enough air to act like a blower for continuous forced induction and make a ton of boost.
these guys do all the cool stuff you want to do (but don't have the time). 👍
Or the balls to try. They do some seriously sketchy stuff lol.
Or the space or equipment...
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There was a company working on this. Its called CAS(compressed air supercharging) they used scuba tanks and application specific tank valve with a regulator to control the pressure.
This is incredible! Ive always wondered if this could work, or more specifically how well it could work or not! 😎
1). Blow through carb
2).Lots more fuel
3).Rip all that off put a NOS fogger kit lol. Nah you need windows or flaps in the top can that can be pulled open by the vacuum of the carb when running on no air, then when it's pressurized it slams the flaps shut and into the carb it goes. Some European cars have similar things on the radiator fan shrouds. At speed they're forced open by wind/air pushing through the shroud. When stopped, they shut and the fan does all the work. I don't know just a thought! Y'all do some crazy stuff I really enjoy watching you guys!
I like that Vlad was very risky on this one for the purpose of an experiment we all wanted to see, if that thing does a backfire that "receiver" tank would fly sky high.
It would literally blow him apart. You don't fuck with pressure vessels.
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AvE reference noted lol
With bigger injectors I wonder what sort of quarter mile time you could deliver? When the compressed air is released it is also very cold (great for combustion) which is better than turbo or supercharger which gets the air hot so it has to go into an intercooler, this air will be much colder than that. I have often wondered if a drag car would be more efficient if it carried cold compressed air....
Yeah same here! I'd love to see these guys take this concept further!
Some shop made a compressed air boosted car (I think it was a drag car?) I just remember seeing a video of the tank in the trunk and I believe it was on a dyno. They may have even opened a dump valve in one video to show how much air pressure was in there.
It held enough air for like a 1/4 mile power boost.... It's been ages since I saw it, but it was on UA-cam.
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@@volvo09 That's amazing, it makes perfect sense, racers spend massive amounts building boost, and then trying to cool it after...
@@Dat_Sun You could premix it in with the compressed air
I have a new one for you. Cleetus ran a bone stock LS the other day on a mix of ethanol/Nitromethane, +60% HP/TQ It was WILD, NO BOOST, NA. HP went from like 280 wheel HP to 490+ Run a LADA on mix of ethanol/Nitro, they put in like 49 degrees of timing.
De E.U. should learn from this on how to repurpose stuff (lada's.).
What a cool unique idea, Garage 54 rocks.
You need a boost referenced carburettor.
Some boost reservoir was done in WRC, so I'd love to see tuning by adjusting the pressure regulator.
yeah ford made a titanium tank as part of the rear bumper
You need to use a diving regulator so supply demand as the engine wants it the regulator gives it an it’ll work. 😊
Replace the valve springs with air cylinders, and set those air tank regulators to 35 bar or atm. Now, you will have a formula one Lada engine! Use brake line to carry the air to the air springs. Should be able to rev very high......if the connecting rods hold up.
Was going to say he might need a waste gate to bleed excess pressure to keep it stable. :)
Во-первых, ты молодец! Вот мое предложение, берите прямой выхлоп от Жигулей, прямо из выпускного коллектора. Добавьте большой винтовочный глушитель на конец выхлопной трубы. Вы можете найти схему винтовочного глушителя в разрезе и сделать его таким, используя перегородки и прочее. Еще раз спасибо!
I got a good laugh watching that red pom-pom bounce up and down in the back of that vehicle.!!
Great channel, love the experiments.
You guys should totally try to use this set up to create boost like a turbo does, use air instead of a turbo, I bet it would work
It definitely works it's already been done. ua-cam.com/video/qObzWnWlCfM/v-deo.html
Hello from America. I really love the ingenuity and hard work you guys do! Thanks for all of the interesting videos and keep up the good work.
Another great project. I have a sugestion for you guys you might like to try. Back in the late 60s I was an apprentice mechanic and I used to visit the men next door who was a carpenter and a very smart guy, Anyway he had this idea to make cars safer, this was before airbags and crumple zones. He said car makers need to make cars safer in the event of an accident. His idea was to fit the front and back bumpers on springs so that if you had a accident to springs would absorb the inpact and shock of the accident an so preventing damage to the body of the car and also keeping the people in the car safer. I think this would be a perfect project for Garage 54. Mount the front and rear bumper on coil springs and do some crash tests and see what happens. I hope you do it, thank you so much for your channel.
They did something like this a while back.
The video is called bumpers with springs
@@andyc8454 Thank you I have just watched it, just great fun. Sadly my carpenter is not around to see this
I really like these 4x4 station wagons. They are my guilty pleasure to watch roving around on russian youtube videos. I think these things are Lada's right?
There is just something so neat about something built so simple and sturdy.
It's a Lada Niva
Nivas are very rugged reliae little things, great lil off roaders
Always something new and interesting on this channel.
i tought it would be using compressed for boost...
that'd be a good idea for a video
to do that "corect" you need to set it up as a carbed turbo. so enclose the carb and have a fuel pump + regulator that can feed over the pressure. ten high octane fuel and go up in bar until it say bang ;)
You should build a Lada grader, for the local raod.
Hey that was one great experiment! You guy’s impress me every time with your insane concoctions!👌😂👍you guy’s should try to make a James Bond type submersible car!
Yes. Their version of titan sub.
This setup is very close to the air powered dragster that Don Garlits made back in the '60s I believe.
Make the crank and cam a one to one, probably shorten the duration a bit, feed a hundred psi to the intake and HOLD ON.
The NHRA banned it very quickly!
When adjusting the air, the valves on the cylinders should have been fully open and the pressure regulators used to control air into the engine. This would have resulted in the regulators automatically adjusting for the air requirements of the engine resulting in much better and more reliable performance.
Holding 2.75psi 0.2kg/cm at the buffer tank would have been interesting.
Running on pure O2 would get complicated. but possible.
I wonder how insane the idea is to feed the engine power to electrolyze water to make the oxygen ("Air") to feed the engine, and then produce a burn.
UA-cam needs to add an search option for comments so you can search keywords to find certain comments
It needs efi and a boost referenced fuel pressure regulator. Then hook.the thrittle to the tank regulator to supply boost under full throttle. Its been done on toymakerz on a drag car.
Shoot compressed air at carburetor venturi only, adjust burst length based on throttle
All you need is an intake and a big check valve in the accumulator for the engine to run naturally aspirated, and you have yourself a short-term forced-induction power boost when you open the tanks.
I wonder what they could if they worked to shed as much weight as possible. Using carbon fiber or fiberglass tanks. Install a solar powered air compressor. So as the car sits, the compressor could recharge the cylinders. Also have something that runs only when you press the accelerator. So when you’re not accelerating. There’s no air being used.
Of course this would work vlad, what you think they make nitrous oxide cans for? Now how effective can an ac compressor be to pressurize an Air tank upto about 300psi, and run about 20psi into intake, gotta account for intake flow rates at given load rpms too
A diaphragm or a air bladder might be easier to manage than blow off ls and other accessories in addition to not wasting any of the supplied air an elastic accumulator if you will
I don't know where the error is, but towards the end of the video the English voiceover was saying that the engine was running lean producing black smoke when in fact it is a rich mixture that produces black smoke
This method has been used in Australia for a while now!
this could be a concept car its an idea that could work if there were no atmosphere, even under water. clever thinking on your part kudos guys.
Please do this with an industrial compressor, like Cosworth did for testing engines under boost back then
How about having a Kickdown Switch operated Stored Air Injection Boost?
Inject at 1 bar above atmospheric, with a 100mm diameter Reed Valve upstream to Contain backflow during boost, and Automatically Open pass-through during Normal Aspiration.
You would need an air pedal of sorts like the throttle the more you push the gas the more compressed air is released.
This is like those old diesel subs coming up for gulps of air! Very cool
I'd like to see an engine run with a different firing order.
Instead of 1-3-2-4 it would be interesting to see 1-4 2-3
Firing 2 cylinders at once, 1-4 because you can cut and reweld the camshaft to sync cyl 1 and 4, so 1-4 mirror each other.
Repeat for 2-3
It would be very shaky but mildly interesting. Might need a larger flywheel, or it'll break the crank.
so, like a larger 2 cylinder?
😂 The first tank cracked me up.... A 2L engine idling at 600rpm would have that empty real quick.... Need about 120L at 300bar and add a bigger fuel pump and rising rate fuel pressure regulator/carby built for boost 👌 then you will have the power and range to take that submarine for a swim.
This is pretty dope but I always wondered if you couldn’t feed a compressed air tank with a turbo. Like, imagine that for average drive you could charge your air tank with the BOV and then dump the compressed air to alleviate the turbo lag.
Ford did this in wrc, excess air would be sent to a tank in the back bumper.
Ford did it in rally with an hidden tank some decade ago i beleive
@@AxelP33 correct. Ford had a rear bumper tank made from titanium that gets supplied with boost pressure during no/part throttle. When you use full throttle, the butterfly valve releases tank pressure into intake manifold. It technically wasn't cheating. But what Toyota did in wrc was a whole different ball game
Solid!
Top KEK!
Peace be with you.
I’ve been wanting to do this on my own. Because I figured it’s like nitrous where it can help boost compression by forcing compressed air into the engine
You guys test the best ideas, keep up the good work!
Tie the throttle blade to the regulator so they are in sync.
Then the more throttle the more air.
Would have added a boost gage witch is also able to tell vacuum
This is like a DRY nitrous system. The car should run way longer then 10mins, in India they use 15kg - 20kg propane tanks feed into the intake with electric pressure valve. Last way longer then 10mins for sure
Use compressed air in place of a turbo or supercharger that would make for interesting performance difference between using compressed air and none.
Immagine a compressor, continously using the compressed air system to basically feed high pressure air into the manifold and pretty much replacing the need for a turbo.
These guys look like a cartoon Motormouse and Autocat, or Dastardly and Muttley in their Flying Machines, with their crazy inventions....
Great tests guys
There's an idea in fueling the exhaust gases to a turbo (to get a reduction) and to then compress air and then feed the exhaust gases to the engine to re-burn. Something along those lines..
A boost referenced fuel pressure regulator will help,
Yeah a large regulator alongside this might help with starting and idle.
This guy is nuts...and I love it.
All right I enjoy always your videos like to push the envelopes this is great ultimately if you can get that car running on air like this for 10 minutes basically you can do roughly 10 minutes I would be a good distance if you're running at 60 km so you could basically do a good 6 km in about 10 minutes i I think you can do more than theirs as well I definitely think you can push it more you're running 60 horsepower motor I think you could run. Motor on 8 hp even less than this maybe adjusting some gears seem able to get a little bit more speed basically lure the RPM ultimately love the video keep on pushing the boundaries I wish you all the best of your organization you guys are amazing
should re do this using 100% o2 instead of compressed air as those cylinders only hold 10.3 cubic meters of air at 20,000 KPa each where if you supplement apnopheric air with 100% o2 might get different resaults
They just keep on making videos that answer my lifelong questions lol
A couple of dozen seconds sounds like a possible drag racing class 😅
There is already a boosted a Camaro that uses this tech they run a blend of gases and nitrous if you look on youtube you can find it
All the workers in the other buildings near Garage 54,:" Can't wait to see Vlad drive by in ," whatever", today! "
this simply is not forced induction.
this is removing the abundance of air and creating your own ambient air pressure.
if you want this to work, you put a turbo on the system, EFI, and you store the leftover air from the blowoff valve into the air tank and use it like NO2
Ford did this in rally sport, and it was considered cheating.
Should have tied the throttle to the floor and used the regulator as the throttle xD
I am grateful for the ability to act to put that crazy idea into practice (laughs.
Try a joe cell using a water methanol system adding boost juice to the mix or mystery oil or hydro diesel
In America there's less people who are willing to tri this but there is a system u can buy that does the tanks but for a v8 like drag system for big power no parasite loss of power
“This thing rips” 😂😂😂
this guy is always doing the things i think of
i wanted to see how faster they could make a lada using forced induction this way. throw 20-30psi at an engine,
Would be interested how this would behave on a diesel, with no throttle. Just like a turbo?
Immagine a compressor, continously using the compressed air system to basically feed high pressure air into the manifold and pretty much replacing the need for a turbo.
Yes closed air system and a closed fuel system I would say you all could make that thing run and drive completely under water buy water proofing the firing system.
Thaz was an idea i jad as an kidd. Have a air engine with a big pressurised tank in rear !!👍
Great Content cool I was gonna try that to a diesel
Ok 48 seconds in..1.2 -1.6 litres displacement 4 cylinders 720 degrees per full firing each cylinder idle 600rpm. 300 times 1.2 -1.6 per min 360 to 480 litres a min at idle. I forgot how much air is stored, which was in kilos..pressure..? 50 litres at 8 kilos, just 1.2 xr atmospheric - will run for between 7.5 and 10 seconds.
That was an awesome video. Thanks for sharing.
How about using a 0 governor like is used on a propane fed engine. It would let the pressure in according to the suction of engine
Iv seen a drag car with forced pressurized air for boost. It's insane how much air just 1 pass the car takes it has 4 or 6 huge high pressure tanks. Search for it on youtube.
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Now if there were a small air compressor attached to the engine, it could add a little back into the system to keep it going just a bit longer, kind of how they have regen braking on electric cars, puts a little back in for a bit more range... :P
something like a ......blower?
@@mikeleschber33 No, I mean like, a compressor, that thing that sits atop a compressed air tank to pump air in at high pressure, and plumbed in via means that it goes right into the air tanks for them to be lightly topped up, thus assistingin keeping the thing going for more than 10 minutes...
Bond. Iacov Bond. Who needs a snorkel when you pack your own air?
It'll be good for a ten minute jaunt on the moon? - Lunakhod 2!!
Or, it might just about be good for two lengths of an Olympic size swimming pool?
Put a 5h horse power horizintal shaft honda in a lada and then use compressed air to run it. I would be interested in seeing how many miles you could drive it with tje same amount of compressed air you used on this build.
My dad did this in the 70s with an AMC Javelin, blew it up when he used pure oxygen haha
Wonder what using O2 would do - denser and dangerous... But if I understood what they did here, that was just compressed air (atmosphere) - not Oxygen bottles.
I would like to see you put an air compressor from the shop to run the car now hahaha
You need a Pitot tube for fuel pressure reference
ww2 diesel powered submarines used to run on compressed air while submerged,
I think pure oxygen or nitrous oxide would be really cool to try with this contraption. Anyway, nice video 👍👍
But does this configuration need fuel? compressed air has energy stored that can do work. The amount of energy stored in compressed air is equal to the volume times the pressure (cubic meter times Force per square meter is equal to Force times meters, Nm, or Joule.) So the energy in those tanks is 2 * 0.04 (40 liters, or 0.1 cubic meter) * 1e7Pa (100 Bar, or 1e7Pa =N/m^2 )=0.8 million joules