A History of Black Stereotypes Onscreen
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- Get a full month of MUBI FOR FREE: mubi.com/thetake (With the support of Creative Europe - MEDIA Programme of the European Union) | The grotesque racist caricatures that were used to justify slavery and the systemic mistreatment of black people found their way into our earliest blockbuster movies, and they remained popular onscreen for decades. In large part, this is because-while black characters have always been a part of American films-black filmmakers and performers tended to be excluded from their creation. If we look closer, many caricatures like the Mammy, Uncle Tom, Sapphire, Jezebel, and Magical Negro have persevered, in some form, to this day across our modern films and TV. Here’s our Take on the history of black stereotypes on screen and how they still influence our society-more than you might think. If you like this video, subscribe to our channel or support us on Patreon: / thetake
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The Watermelon Woman (1996)
Bamboozled (2000)
A Tough Winter (1930)
The Birth of a Nation (1915)
Song of the South (1946)
The Littlest Rebel (1935)
Dear White People (2017-)
Gone with the Wind (1939)
Show Boat (1936)
Django Unchained (2012)
Driving Miss Daisy (1989)
Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999)
The Real Housewives of Atlanta (2008-)
Sex and the City: The Movie (2008)
Hollywood Shuffle (1987)
Made for Each Other (1939)
Judge Priest (1934)
Imitation of Life (1934)
Beulah (1950-1953)
Mandingo (1975)
Mad Men (2007-2015)
The Help (2011)
High School Musical 2 (2007)
Tall Girl (2019)
The Devil Wears Prada (2006)
12 Years a Slave (2013)
Suits (2011-2019)
Person of Interest (2011-2016)
The Walking Dead (2010-)
Grey's Anatomy (2005-)
Uncle Tom's Cabin (1927)
Uncle Tom's Cabin (1987)
Uncle Tom's Cabin (1903)
Uncle Tom's Cabin (1910)
Follow Your Heart (1936)
The Little Colonel (1935)
Heaven Can Wait (1943)
In the Heat of the Night (1967)
Edge of the City (1957)
A Patch of Blue (1965)
The Green Mile (1999)
The Legend of Bagger Vance (2000)
The Shining (1980)
Bruce Almighty (2003)
The Matrix (1999)
Million Dollar Baby (2004)
Riverdale (2017-)
Little Fires Everywhere (2020)
Gimme a Break! (1981-1987)
Bringing Down the House (2003)
David Harum (1934)
Stand Up and Cheer! (1934)
30 Rock (2006-2013)
Shrek (2001)
Dumbo (1941)
The Jungle Book (1967)
GLOW (2017-)
Precious (2009)
The Amos 'n Andy Show (1951-1953)
Family Guy (1999-)
Empire (2015-)
Glee (2009-2015)
Sanford and Son (1972-1977)
MADtv (1995-2016)
Hannah Montana (2006-2011)
Young & Hungry (2014-2018)
Everybody Hates Chris (2005-2009)
Martin (1992-1997)
Clueless (1995)
Coffy (1973)
Foxy Brown (1974)
Candyman (1992)
King Kong (1933)
Austin Powers in Goldmember (2002)
Taxi Driver (1976)
Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood (1996)
Black-ish (2014-)
I'm Gonna Git You Sucka (1988)
Insecure (2016-)
Get Out (2017)
Atlanta (2016-)
Being Mary Jane (2013-2019)
The Leftovers (2014-2017)
Love & Hip Hop: Miami (2018-)
Moonlight (2016)
Dope (2015)
Yes Sir, Mr. Bones (1951)
Little Black Sambo (1935)
The Daily Show with Trevor Noah (2015-)
Two Too Young (1936)
Forrest Gump (1994)
The Hate U Give (2018)
The Colored Museum (1991)
Cutter (1972)
I remember a white woman accused me of trying to steal the computers at my job and lying about working at my job even though I was clearly working at my desk on my computer in my UNIFORM. Of course I told her I’m an employee there and she proceeded to tell me that I’m being “ aggressive to her “ and threatened to call the police on me. Then she asked to speak to my manager. This is the reality of being black in America.
That checks off every Karen omg
I heard of a Black woman being accused of being aggressive while was giving an evaluation of her white employee's performance.
As a non American, when i reached 7th Grade, it was for the first time that I started learning abt the existence of racism in general, especially ones towards black people in America. I honestly thought all the racism was over because the English Literature that had stories abt racism took place yeaaaars ago. I guess that wasnt the case. Soon i got more exposed of incidences of racism caught on video in America and oh my god there ARE Thousands, maybe millions of them that ive seen since then, up until today.
I am so sorry this is still happening to you and your brothers and sisters. I Pray that your situation allwaaaays becomes gradually better. I honestly can't imagine facing these kinds of things. You are strooong my sister. You deserve BETTER. And I prat that things get better for your people.
@@SagemaGrindset1894 Thank you for learning. Please teach other non black people that as well!
I’m Australian and when I was in America I met a nice black girl in New Orleans on bourbon street. We hit it off, kissed and started walking holding hands, after a few minutes she said “oh look there’s all my friends from college” (I was at uni in Australia as well at the time) and I thought ‘cool we could have a fun night here’ and was genuinely interested in meeting them.
It was a group of about 10 black people, 8 of which were dudes, and as we got closer and they saw I was white the first person to speak angrily asked her “what are you doing with a white boy” and I was pretty shocked. I said hey mate and put my hand out, the dude completely ignored me and I said “oh righto then” and it’s was like they’d done it before, they fanned out and surrounded me and abused me for being white and her for being with me. I was like wtf is this, and said to one of them if you want to punch on let’s have a go, but your mates aren’t allowed to jump in and the girl I was with started freaking out and got angry at them, but quickly gave me her number and said you have to leave for your safety. Never seen anything like it in my life. Never seen white people treat a black person as poorly as this.
That was genuine racism and racism goes both ways. Left me with a bad impression of race relations in the US
this is why i personally don't support tyler perry movies bc a lot of characters are literally like new school ministrely tropes. I'm not saying there aren't southern black americans that are like madea and mr brown bc there are however, they're also an equal amount that don't fall into those stereotypes and even so, real life people that are like madea in particular deserves more nuances and complex representation as suppose to one diminishial caricatures. This is why i love black filmmakers like issa rae, jordan peele, ryan coolger, ava duvenery, berry jenkins, etc
Very true. I find his movies to be nothing but a bunch of black caricatures with the obligatory church scene. Nah, that's a pass for me.
I’m glad people are finally aware of how embarrassing those movies are for POC lol
Ashley Whiteside not POC. Black people
The angry black woman characters in his movies just annoy the hell out of me. I just cant..
Tyler Perry's Madea movies are just weird soap dramas are jarringly combined with "comedy".
Notice the mammies and sapphire tropes are all based on dark skinned black women
Yes! Light skinned black women always get more progressive roles.
Sadly, it's true. You wouldn't see Halle Berry or Beyonce cast in a mammie role. It makes you wonder why Viola Davis and Octavia Spencer agreed to be portrayed in "The Help"?. I would refuse to be cast in such a regressive role!
@@florjean965 Recently, Viola Davis expressed regret over taking that role. At the time, it was a was to "break out" into the film industry, which is extremely difficult for black actors (and general PoC).
@@UnboxingAlyss I am glad she has expressed regret. However, if I were in her shoes I would have refused the role.
That's a good point. Dark skinned women were not seen as beautiful at those times. I'm still trying to figure out what happened to all the dark skinned Black female solo artists and groups during the 90s SWV, Total, Mary J etc. It seems like if you darker than Rhiana then you can't sing anymore. To me it shows how there is not always a steady march towards progress. There is also regression until it's taken on.
One thing that needs to be said is the reason white people aren't really affected by this is because the media has literally shown us every type of white person. We have no problem seeing the white experience as a spectrum, because the media is saturated with it. It really makes you understand the fragility of people who get upset with "forced diversity".
Well said. I never understood the "forced diversity" strawmen. How can diversity be forced when the world itself is so diverse? It's just an accurate reflection of reality which marks over so many different experiences. It's holding a mirror up to the world, but apparently some people are so bothered by that they don't think it's the reality
@@keerywindle1932 I always think that people who throw around the word "Force diversity" just mean racist tokenism by movie producers.
Just look at Disney on how they sidelined minority characters in STAR WARS.
Look how they treated Fin's character. And Rose Tico.
@@kpencil859 I totally agree. The thing is when people use the argument of "forced diversity" it's only sparsely in the tokenism sense. There are indeed a lot of clueless bumbling corporate schmucks who think they understand different experiences and that of different ethnicities/sexualities etc who only include it as a perfunctory "see? We care about all of you!" I see the argument used more when there is a non white/ female protagonist in media, and while valid criticism can be drawn (ie the narrative flaws of the star wars sequel trilogy) for some reason the reflex defense is "this is just a load of forced diversity."
K Pencil Yeah it’s weird because, between my group of friends, we use the term “forced diversity” when a production shoves in a character solely for brownie points and does nothing with them. They don’t get story arcs (at least not meaningful ones) and they just leave everything else for the cishet white people to do. A couple weeks ago, I searched up the term online and I was surprised that there seems to be 2 definitions thrown around, although most people I know accept the definition I explained. The two stated were either:
A) white people being annoyed they aren’t the centre of attention
B) Studios pandering to the “minorities”
The second one annoys me a lot, because it assumes we LIKE being portrayed the way we are (I am Asian). Either way, neither of them focus on the real problem being HOW the community is portrayed, not simply the community existing
“Every type of white person” is such an insightful way to put it. I’m Latina. I don’t speak Spanish, I don’t have an accent, I’m not a spicy seductress from the wrong side of the tracks. I go to a private university and major in a STEM field. I’m in a sorority. I’ve had people (of all backgrounds )tell me I’m “not really Latina.” I don’t understand how people feel entitled to take away a part of someone’s identity based off of what fits into your idea of who a Latina should be. It’s similar to gender roles, like saying a “real man” wouldn’t get caught doing the laundry or taking up embroidery.
Sigh. We all have a lot of work to do.
I'm so glad you're analyzing these difficult subjects... pretending these things portrayals never existed DOES NOT help at all.. pretending this time never existed is insulting to what people were going through and how we're probably still being influenced by this very recent history... never avoid a reality because it makes people(you) uncomfortable, it just make take time to analyze and understand. Edit: it may take time to analyze, see patterns, and understand.
Likewise, the Take ALWAYS nail the subject of their videos expertly well! 😻 During the turbulent times of the Black Lives Matter Movement, it's important to document how minorities are often pigeonholed into broad, cartoonish stereotypes. It's been happening since Uncle Remus and "Song of the South" in the 1940's. 😢🖤
Disney has refused to release _Song of the South_ on DVD - not even with a disclaimer that they deeply regret the portrayals. WB has released a lot of old cartoons that portray negative stereotypes with a disclaimer saying that they do not endorse those stereotypes but to fail to include them would be to pretend that such portrayals never occurred.
@@wolf1066 ) Disney has also released certain shorts containing stereotypes with disclaimers.
WB hasn't released any of the "Censored 11"
I DO NOT ensdorse releasing them to the PUBLIC because bigots would use them in harmful ways.
@@steamboatwill3.367 Cheers. I wasn't aware of that. Not sure which ones are the "Censored 11", some of the ones WB has released are really cringe-worthy with their portrayals of various races and gender roles - would hate to think what the "Censored 11" must be like.
Exactly, we need education, not censhorship; we need awareness, not denial!!!
That scene of the black girl asking what it would be like to have her friends ask her about her problems was so hard.
Old Hollywood really liked making Confederate sympathetic films.
I hope they reference the Southern Belle in a future video and the often ethnic or minority overbearing mother.
Hollywood Shuffle is the bomb.
I couldn't agree with you more! 👍 In almost EVERY story, the typically white protagonist has their reliable black pal to encourage them, and to pick them up if they're feeling down. But very rarely do we get to delve into THEIR stories, dreams and hopes outside of their best friend, which is sad, really! 😢💔
That specific scene was so bullshit I felt the stank through my screen. Her character was absolutely wasted in that movie.
Yeah like I get that Hispanic mothers sometimes parent a certain way but lele pons should not have convinced you that that was how you should write a Hispanic mother
@@proserpinabringerofdeath5935 Your thoughts on Jenny Lorenzo's Latina mother?
Jessica Victoria Carrillo If I may - I have always viewed Jenny Lorenzo and the Pero Like videos as a, by the culture, for the culture, kind of thing. I am from Miami where the LatinX population IS the culture, and then I moved to the Midwest. I was completely isolated from my culture and discovered those videos trying to search for people that could relate to me in some way. They were my salvation. I lived in an area where I was stereotyped as the “Angry Latina Woman” and I never felt like their videos were perpetuating that. It would have been different, in my opinion, if a person of another cultural background made the same type of videos.
TL;DR: I feel like Jenny’s characters are not degrading - they are a love letter to the culture. They are satirical without being dehumanizing.
Jenny Lorenzo is also from Miami, FYI.
Thoughts?
Wow. This was really important. I think another thing to remember is that these limited representations of Black characters are damaging to Black kids growing up watching them for a sense of who they should be in the world. As a Black kid in a middle class suburb, I was the "Black best friend/mammy" caricature for my (white & asian) friend group in a lot of ways. It took me a long time to get out of those limiting, toxic friendships and realize that I don't need to be useful to people to be deserving of love, and that I was the protagonist of my own story.
But even now, as an adult, it's hard to figure out how to be a fuller version of myself in the workplace. I fall back into these roles because its more comfortable for white people to perceive me in that way. I'm an introvert but if I'm not smiling or laughing at people's jokes, I start getting people pulling me aside to ask if I'm mad at them. It's exhausting.
How the heck did you become a fictional charicture in your real life friendships. Like what? Are you sure it isn't just because you are shy or you are scared to tell people what you want out of a friendship because the reason why this is called a stereotype is because it is a stereotype. Or is the media influencing you to act this way?
@@lisah8438 ? I'm a little confused by your comment. I was just reflecting on my experience of growing up as a Black child and not seeing diverse representations of Black characters on TV. Growing up without seeing Black women being portrayed as complex main protagonists, desirable love interests, or as people without massively tragic backstories that needed white saviors, really limited how I imagined my life could turn out. I was the "Black best friend" to my friends-- it wasn't just that I thought that I was only worthy of love if I was helping them or useful to them, it was that that was how they treated me too. I didn't like the friendship dynamics, but I also didn't know I should expect anything different because again, that's all that I was exposed to. Media representations of Black people are important because for me, if I saw more Black women being allowed to be their full complex, lovely selves on screen, I could've imagined that I deserved better from my friendships & relationships. It limited what I imagined was possible for myself. And yeah, I'm sure that these stereotypes and caricatures played a role in shaping how I acted and thought I needed to act in society.
I had a mix of friends of different races but I feel like they were only friends with me to to make them look good and make them feel better about themselves.
“I don’t need to be useful to be deserving of love, and that I’m the protagonist of my own story.” Damn I really felt that - I’m a gay black man who grew up in a mostly White/Asian neighborhood and definitely went through exactly what you mentioned. There’s a pressure to dim yourself and not reach your true potential because the very notion of outshining White people is treated with a lot of skepticism or even retaliation in American society
Girl preach. Proud of you for working through it! ❤️
Gen Z is affected by social media more than any other generation. We grew up with it, and when we see these stereotypes, we internalize it.
@Will Williams not necessarily, gen z is the most willing to point out and try to fix injustices. We learn from the mistakes from our past generations and try and make up for it. However, we do sometimes make mistakes.
@@shreksspawn2359 generation z will be downfall of usa as world hegemon. cultural degradation - like in rome.
@@gabrielaristoi7451 Who do you think raised us?
@@shreksspawn2359 I am a proud parent of a Gen Z baby and I am not worried about him in the near future. However, society as a whole fucking sucks and it's not due to Gen Z population but more or less it sucks due to the older generation (Baby Boomers, especially!). For exmple many of society's ills are caused by the wealth population who give zero fucks about everyone and want to maintain the status quo.
Social media also turns people hyper-reactionary and I would caution spending much time on it - the platforms are literally programmed to get you outraged and “engaged” with your timeline
As a cinophile, I have fully enjoy The Take's ability to contextualize various troupes found within the movie industry's tumultuous history.
Words can not express how angry I feel towards the negative depiction of Black people, that unfortunately affects the lives of Blacks gloabally.
Media is a large agent of Socialization and fuel an individuals perception of the world around and society at large. Compounded by negative stereotypes that are meant to denigrate an entire demographic people, leaves many to associate these stereotypes to be truthful.
These type of videos are important because it allows for those who aren't part of the Black community to understand the dire implications of negative stereotypes that have been plaguing the Black for hundreds of years.
Lastly, I want to remain optimistic that eventually all people of color will be give greater platforms to tell our own stories that reflect our communities in a positive way!
Bet they wont include the gay black character stereotype
Chasing Amy, How I met your mother, always sunny in philadelphia, BookSmart, to all the boys I loved before etc the only black character in predominantly white cast is almost always gay
That is a good one. He is non threatening and supports the whites
Sweet home Alabama, the family stone
That might be a bigger talk about gay portrayal in movies
@@yo-sefakimbey7009 Agreed. That video would be lengthy and in-depth as well. Gay and lesbian stereotypes in media were (and are) very harmful.
Also in Gilmore Girls
Black friend stereotype descendant of the Mammy character 😮 I will never be the same
Makes sense. I refuse to be an overburdened friend to any of my friends because of this. Broke up with a White friend of mine last year. After 3 years, I realized it was a emotional hole for me. I realize she only kept me around to uplift herself. She never once provided the same emotional support to me. She sucked the life out of me.
@@kimallnaturelle maybe it's not because you are black and she is white but rather because she is a shitty friend 🙄 everyone can recall a person in their life who likes to use them and doesn't give anything back
@@florance333 how tone deaf do you have to be? How are you gonna tell a black woman her experience with others? Please shut up
@@user-us7py1cy2k How is her comment being tone deaf? That's just another perspective. Is a person a shitty friend more likely because they're a shitty person or because they're white? Are all white people shitty friends? It's ridiculous that people are not allowed to express a different point of view now as long as the original comment belongs to a black person. Everyone is allowed to have an opinion. It's not like she was being disrespectful.
@@goosebump91 you really don't have any comprehension skills
"Green Book" proves that the more things change, the more they stay the same.
The contrast of the endings between Green Book and Blackkklansmen shows the huge difference of perspective between white and black filmmakers when it comes to showing racism.
Green Book's ending was very 'Oh good, racism is cured because this white guy learned tolerence and basic decency.' Blackkklansmen showed that racism is nowhere near a thing of the past.
@@gleewhoseline198 it's been a while since I watched The Green Book so I may be wrong here but I don't think the conclusion said "racism is cured" at all? how did it say that?
I'm still disappointed that of all the movies that year, Green Book managed to win Best Picture. It is as pandering as it is cliché, and it seems like it's main purpose was to reassure those white people that recognized a few to many quotes from the villains of Get Out from themselves.
@@gleewhoseline198 no one fucking said racism is cured, it's a movie about two people learning to respect each other's differences, that doesn't apply to the entire historical context of their story
@@DerMoerpler Green Book could be shown in film classes to illustrate the white gaze.
So is Tyler Perry not guilty of perpetuating black stereotypes?? No mention of him in this.....
Yeah, many black people don't support his movies. Initially they were popular because black people enjoyed seeing themselves in leading roles. Until we realized that not all representation is good
its complicated? is the impression i get....
Black people dont even like him or his movies. Its stereotypical and degrading.
It wouldn't be included in this video because this video is about how black stereotypes are and have been projected to white audiences. Tyler Perry movies are targeted towards black audiences, not the wider society. Tyler Perry movies might be discussed in a video of how stereotypes are used within a community, or how minority creators use stereotypes within their own works.
@@goodrose4734 how did he make a billion dollars then? I'm not saying his work is great, but he made his money off black people supporting him so let's not pretend that every black person hates his movies. He has also given a lot of black people jobs when their careers had a dip. You don't have to like him but we not gone pretend like he isn't popular in the black community.
The ONLY thing I'm worried about with the whole backlash against movies like Gone With the Wind and other films with outdated stereotypes is: we shouldn't let the legacies of these actors be erased because of it.
Hattie McDaniel, Butterfly McQueen, etc., were some of the sweetest and most talented people. I loved them in Gone With the Wind despite the fact that they played "happy slaves", because their performances had such humanity. But they weren't treated like they deserved to be, suffering all kinds of abuse. We shouldn't forget them or have any backlash against them now for surviving in a system that was set against them.
Thankfully they have done other films (also fun fact Butterfly changed her name from Thelma after being in the Butterfly ballet during a performance of A Midsummer's Night Dream)
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 The good news is too that they had their allies. Hattie McDaniel was good friends with Clark Gable and James Cagney, and Butterfly McQueen had a frequent costar and friend in Joan Crawford.
These movies are Not outdated they portay a different time , what are you talking about
@@bendover2684 The stereotypes are outdated. That's the point. There isn't any problem with having a film set during the time of slavery. The issue is that in the script there are stereotypes used against Black people and institutions like the KKK are romanticized, which by default hurts black people.
@@picklesthewise so IT wasnt Like this Back then? IT tells a Story about the perception the Main characters have and the people in their surrroundings, so its correct. Are you really that stupid to apply your own subjective world View of today to a movie Made 90 years ago, telling a Story about a specific Set of people even longer ago?
You must be kidding
I didn't realize the possible connection between jar jar binks and the jungle book to the black people...
King Louis was voiced by popular jazz artist Louis Prima. He was Sicilian, not black.
Same. That's a bit stretch 😬
I just thought the characterization of jar jar binks is kind of an insult to all the gungans 😂
@@lindenpeters2601 ) originaly Louis Armstrong was to voice King Louie, luckily they realized how offensive that would be.
Watto seems a pretty antisemitic stereotype too, don't you think?
"you the white people invented it and you gotta find out why" i love that last clip
I love James Baldwin!!! ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
I'm a writer who wants to become a storyteller and film maker...
@fo exipni Same here.
And still to this day they hadn't find out why.
@fo exipni I agree, racism has caused a lot of trouble trough the years and we need to fix it together.
“The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses.”
― Malcolm X
This quote became more relevant as the internet/social media has prevailed
Here we go! I always watch these with a heavy heart! I get so angry at the unfairness of it all!
Makes me feel sick. I never knew what the specific stereotypes in media were called, theyre still going on In films and TV now. Really great video
Yes, it's so unfair that they get saddled with such broad, unfair stereotypes, when they could be SO much more than that! 😔💖
Seriously. Generations will never know anything other than unjustness
@@trinaq does stereotypes exist in real life or just in movies?
I remember watching Hannah Montana as a kid and feeling weird about Roxy. Somehow as a child, I could see that she wasn’t a fully fleshed out character, she was just angry all the time, that’s it. Now looking back, I realize how gross that is, particularly because she was only one of two recurring black characters I can think of, the other one being Miley’s school bully. Yikes.
MnMsandOreos Great observation
Also even more disturbing as years later when Miley musically rebranded in 2013 she was rightfully accused of appropriation of black culture. And for her gross exploitation of black womens bodies as she was routinely surrounded by twerking scantily clad black women - AKA pushing the Jezebel stereotype of black females to help sell her new supposedly edgy image
@@Garcelle1987 And then when asked why she gave up hip hop to go back to country, she said that hip hop is just too sexist. As though country music isn't ever sexist!! That was some thinly veiled racist bull
@@MnMsandOreos Yes!! Exactly!
I believe when she ventured into that particular country era she said some dismissive shit about Hip Hop
It didn't go down well. Lol
These videos are so important. Please never stop analysing these deep seeded issues in on-screen entertainment
Yeah, because we need to hear it a billion times a day, right? You don't get weary of it? After awhile, I think we can discuss things OTHER than identity.
Dark Truth we do, you absolute muppet
Dark Truth Aw looks like Becky/Chad is mad that we’re speaking up about our issues!
Dark Truth I’m sure people of colour would love to be able to just turn racism off for the day to stop hearing about it but sadly that’s not how the world works. If you’re so privileged you need to tell other people to shut up about damaging, traumatising stereotypes that can lead to dangerous circumstances of violence, you need to sit down and let the people who actually care and want to do something about it to do their thing. NO ONE is stopping you from ignoring outcries of pain and suffering. But it’s on your conscience. Have a nice day. I will not reply again.
20:54 “a credit to my race”
That sentiment always makes me physically ill
I read somewhere that the Gone with the Wind producer wrote the speech for her.
gleewhoseline198 seriously?
This channel only gets better and better. Such important content.
Well I guess you don't have to think about it anymore. Lucky you.
@@formulah113 what are you trying to say
This channel is trying to be performative woke just like many others right now. They only talk about the hardship of black people now because it's trendy.
@@Jasmine-mw5ku They talk about what exists. Interesting how you’re fine with the tropes and stereotype videos focusing on white people but not the ones about Black people. Your racism is apparent.
hey can you guys do a video on the portrayals of Asian, Hispanic, and indigenous characters, stereotypes, and how portrayals have changed over time?
edit: can you guys include Arabs and Russians (idk if the comments replying to this will be read so I decided to edit this original comment); can you guys possibly talk about how beauty standards (or at least western ones) have recently being appropriating features of non-white people, for example, the fox-eye make-up trend and over tanning (not regular tanning but tanning so much that someone doesn't even look like their original self)
watch pierrexo
Don't forget to include Arabs and Russians as well
@@rashonmyeed I had it explained to me in the comments of another video that Russian stereotypes and appropriation of Russian culture is completely okay... since they're white :/
Stereotypes that are harmful to Jews would be very helpful as well.
And Asian meaning all kinds of Asians! From South Asians, to East Asians, to Southeast/Pacific Asians please!
Ugh sometimes I love being black but then I get reminded of these old movies where we aren’t considered human and then all of that progress goes right out the window.
The worst part is that all of these movies are less than 100 years old.
You should always love being black not just sometimes and remember that then and even still today, the problem was not and is not with black people but with white people.
You deserve to love being black, you're human and deserve to have dignity.
@@Marie-qm9cf Exactly
I love being white.
Whoever did the research/script on this one, deserves a raise (or at least a recognition). This is some serious educational thing going on here.
Some people may think this villainizes white people as a whole. Some people are tired of being told black people have it so bad. It makes them feel shame. They feel uncomfortable.Some people don’t want change. Some people want to remain racist because there is less shame when you surround yourself with the shameful. Some people in trying to relate inadvertently remember who they are in private. Hate is a religion.
Hate and religion do cross over quite a bit.
Well said brother
It seems to be ok to stereotype all white people as racists
"Some" is not all. That's the problem with hate. The "Some" always see them selves as the "All". It makes them feel less shame and responsiblity for their hateful thoughts and behavior.
@@melanietarlton9080 No one in their right mind is going to claim literally all white people are racist. Grow up.
Omg. Everyone needs to see this. Seriously, it means so much that your company is doing this much needed work. Hope it inspires others to do the same. Nobody is exempt from the battle to end systemic racism.
The elite is laughing at you. Yeah fix non-existent problems created by the elite so you can stay at the bottom.
Those stereotypes are especially effective on people abroad who can't interact with black people and not familiar with history of racism. I grew up in Ukraine and I have seen a fare share of people who see black people only as criminals, servants, drug addicts, or exclusively living below poverty line. And often when black people get a decent representation in the movie you'll hear them whining that it's "propaganda of tolerance". So yeah, these negative stereotypes are damaging not only inside the US but also internationally.
Yes, it is.
The stereotype was mean to belittle or demonize a certain group, so the society will reject them
“Propaganda of tolerance?” What does that even mean? How does that even work? In what way is “decent representation” “propaganda of tolerance?”
I know it's not everyone in Ukraine who thinks this, but your comment explains a memory from my childhood. I was looking at a teen magazine in middle school with the new Ukrainian girl in my class and I pointed to a black actor (I think it was Corbin Bleu) and I said he was cute. She said, "Ew...monkeys..." and flipped the page past him. I had no idea what to say or do and I remember sitting there silently in shock.
@@katamarigirl93 That's quite blunt from her, usually they say something not as obviously racist like that. But yeah, I've seen people like this too.
@@elsharkone7 I can only hope she has learned more since then :/ She was 12 and didn't know better
I like that you guys also include shows from the present as well.
It's easy to spot the egregious examples of racist stereotypes from several decades ago, but it's much more difficult to spot how these now toned down stereotypes continue to be used today. Also, how it might make some people uncomfortable to call out shows/films that they watch and love today, compared to an 70 year old movie they've never heard or cared about, when both display similar negative stereotypes.
This ones going to be hard to watch but here I go again. Just glad they’re getting so many videos out about our struggle
i kept pausing it. it was really hard to watch
But look how old all of this is, the narrator even admitted how alot of these tropes have been changed out unless the movie is historically based or funny like the welfare lady which is funny asf, movies have asian and white stereotypes too, latino ones too because its all entertainment. She didnt talk about black panther, star wars, or marvel which has many household characters characters with deep backstories and lore who happen to be african american. Lore that has little to nothing about their skin color but content of their character
I genuinely started to cry because some people don’t see us any other way.
@@droopy6372 I agree they make it seem more distant into the past than it actually is by not giving any newer examples.
Only cause it’s trending
What gets me is that when anti-black people are confronted with this, they accuse you of being angry. First of all, why can't I be angry? Why can't I be angry that all these things have affected my life in negative ways? It makes me feel bad and so I have a right to be angry. Second of all, why should my anger deter you from listening to what I have to say? Because I'm angry, what is being said is not valid all of a sudden? My feelings are not valid? Invalidating other people's feelings has become so common place that its sad.
I am from India...... when I was a child I didn't knew about the indigenous American people. I watched a few cartoons in which they were shown with skirts and a headband and having a red skin colour. I literally thought there were red coloured people having Prehistoric or jungle lifestyle living in the advanced America. It was not until I read about them in my school history books that I came to know about them. I felt stupid. But as I aged I realised it was Hollywood's fault to perpetuate these kind of stereotypes. People of other countries who don't know these communities totally buy these stereotypes. This shows how dangerously Hollywood's perception of different communities effect their image around the world. Well i still know many people who think indigenous people are red and not civilised 🤦♀️
I think it's crazy that the Mammy character evolved from and overweight Black woman to a 6'7 280 lb black man.
( For those of you who don't know, I'm talking about Madea.)
Thanks for the amazingly insightful video!
It's never easy to face difficult topics like this. It feels unpleasant. But face our bias is the best way to grow out of it.
two of my favourite channels! Love your work
What about all the degrading stereotypes of WHITES routinely coming out of the CONTEMPORARY MAINSTREAM mass media ( Hollywood, television, and so forth )? .. . like "dumb blonde", suburbanite, frat boy, and "hillbilly", which all these militant leftist "politically correct" SJW "liberal" types never seem to get so indignant about and raise such a clamor over?
@@pheonix5597 don't try.
USA folks are represented way better than anyone in Hollywood.
On the contrary European are heavily stereotypes.
Russian, German, Italian have it worse.
@@wrestlinganime4life288 wdym USA folks?
Literally you just showed your almost racist mindset, Bc you say USA folk which in your mind means white people. Sorry to burst your bubble buddy but USA folk are black, white, Hispanic, Chinese, Japanese, etc etc Bc Being American is not bound by birth totally but it’s a belief and a idea that you live. Americans are born on this land and live as a patriot with love for their nation and freedoms.
And actually no, Americans get it pretty bad oh wait sorry, I mean WHITE people of USA. We literally have every trope in the world from nerdy virgins and dumb cheerleaders to psychopath serial murderers and the stupid people that get killed by them. I wouldn’t say anybody has it worse than the other per say in 2021 but nowadays since China has rules for movies being allowed and Hollywood is greedy they follow the rules and that means a lot of love for China and lots of hatred for America and it’s people and government (which I hate the gov too)
@@wrestlinganime4life288 oh I see what ur saying I’m stupid lol I’m sorry Anime4Life I got TRIGGERED. Heheh but you’re right now I know what ur saying
“Ayeeee itsa Spicey meatballlllll.”
Actually King Louie himself was actually based off of his performer Louis Prima and his band.
Prima was known for being extremely wild and having a love for jazz and women which they incorporate into the character
He's one of my favorites! His band had the greatest energy and Walt Disney loved them; he wanted to incorporate them into one of his films as characters with a song.
FYI, this same film the Jungle Book tried to get THE BEATLES to play a group of vultures in one scene for the same idea, but couldn't get them to sign on. So they minimized the song and got four soundalike voice actors to play the parts.
@@picklesthewise Oh yeah, and in regards to Louie they actually had to redo the song because the original version was too "Wild" and needed to be toned down
It was a great video, but that part was sadly ignorant. Louie Prima was Sicilian, and hilarious. People should listen to his collection from the Capitol years. It's just great, great music.
As far as I know, Walt Disney deliberately wanted a WHITE actor to voice King Louie to not give the impression that a black person was equalled to a monkey. It's sad that people still interpret King Louie as black.
@@Tinkerbe11 Yup even back then they knew better especially after the Peter Pan Indians made waves
Can you do a video for Latinx/Hispanic tropes?
YES. I'm tired of the "spicy latina" trope
Latinos.
Domepeace_ltd productions you seem upset, it’s not blacks jobs to fight for all minorities. Even tho that’s what being done
Latinos
We’re called Latinos. Get your “woke” language outta here
The mad black woman stereotype I always feel like it influences actual young black women to act like that and think it's ok to be sassy and snappy. Latinas also get that type of stereotype laid on thick, unless you're a
lighter skinned with a perfect body and fit into the definition of "beautiful". Just look at Michelle Rodriguez. She always gets to play the tough/tomboy/hardass woman. Little girls look at that and think oh that's how I should act if I don't look like Jennifer Lopez or Eva Longoria.
Maybe Michelle Rodriguez has purposely chosen roles that allow her to be more than a love interest. It's clear that she prefers to be in action films, and there is nothing wrong with her being a representation of that. I think I understand what you're trying to say, but it is misguided
@@yo-sefakimbey7009 she's actually stated she's tired of being type casted. She says there's so much more complexity that she can express but the opportunities aren't there for her. She does enjoy the roles she's had, but she did say that when they look at her they think "tough girl". I don't see how what I'm saying is "misguided" when it's true that big movie star Latinas are scarce.
But no matter how a black woman may be expressing herself, even if it is imperfect, we aren't going to break the cycle until we, as a culture, learn to see black people's anger as a human emotion rather than as a character trait.
@@MsSwitchblade13 I'm so glad that I grew up on animation than those crappie live action stuff. Animation was always ahead of the game
"CP" Once when I was on a NYC subway train, there was one black woman sitting on one of the subway chairs to the furthest corner of the subway car, and another black woman sitting on the chair opposite her (facing her). Then suddenly the first black woman starts shouting at the other woman accusing her of "looking" at her. The first black woman was intimidating and aggressive. She said to the other black woman, "You chose the wrong day to aggravate me" (words to that effect).
The other black woman remained silent apparently scared .
"No stereotypes" only sounds good on paper.
Shane must've taken notes from these movies blackface is sooo cool wow!
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Dynasty The Gemini it’s darker than Shane’s makeup
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They are still doing this to this very day movies that have Black people in them are usually pushing some kind of negative stereotype and or featuring a palm colored savior.
I am form Russia, black people are rare here and Russians don’t really understand the history of racism, but I can’t help crying watching this.
I just don’t get how those who don’t know black history and are from white countries can think racism against black people is not real.
These movies are a living record.
If you're from Russia maybe you should take a look at the politics against the LGBTQ+ community of the russian government. I assure you it will give you and anyone with a little humanity a nearer-to-home reason to cry
Gonzalo Plot
Thank you, I am well aware of it. Human rights discussion is not a thing in Russia, because the culture is still heavily based on patriarchy and the idea that “what is decided by the leader is the best for all”.
Our culture is both beautiful and full of thought and toxic with zero understanding of personal boundaries. Like it’s OK for a colleague to give you advice about your looks for small talk.
What I meant is I see lots of Russian makeup artists doing blackface makeup and when people address it they say they didn’t want to offend anybody so it’s not offensive. People just don’t understand racism when it’s far away.
@@katyadade1041 то же самое, очень раздражает тупость и узколобость здешних людей, как будто сложно просто загуглить и почитать, а лучше послушать интервью с темнокожими людьми
Do you know how blacks are treated in russia??
Can't believe you missed the house-keeper in the Tom and Jerry cartoons. "Thomas! If you is mousecatcher, I'm Lana Turner"
Obviously the reference due to Turner being contracted and T&J made by MGM at the time, but Lena Horne was there at the time too.
That was one of the first Black people I remember in a cartoon
Growing up I always asumed she was the home owner, she was seen sleeping in the main bedroom, she ofthen refered to it as 'her house' & there wasnt ever any white people or anyone else for that matter (like say a husband) living in it
Old cartons were some of the worst offenders.
@@manthony225 more stereotypes than you can shake a stick at!
How about Asian stereotypes?
There Asians in Hollywood? Not played by a white person?? (I’m joking but also not really)
Why don't you make such a video?
@@demh7823 Who asked?
Exactly
Sorry this is about blacks find yur video
Does anyone else have that problem where they try explaining racial issues but then when things like George Floyd's death happen, all their friends want you to explain everything?
@I A
No. I don't have a problem with these kinds of videos. They're necessary and needed.
Ive seen a trend where the black persons friends all come to that person for education instead of trying to do so themselves. Others have good intentions, but it could be draining and exhausting to the person whos role to educate is thrust upon them. If they want education and they dont know where to find it, they should maybe look for guidance on resources. Links to books, articles or videos and learn it themselves. Instead of having their black friend explain every single nuance of the black lives matter movement. Cause more than educating people, they also have to worry about the whole situation, like how will it play out for them in real life, the emotional toll from the 400 years of oppression and everything se going on in the world. Atleast, thats what Ive read the black people say.
In any case, we should all take our part in guiding other people to the right resources cause a lot of black people have already written, debated, made a movie, talked about it! Like James Baldwin, Martin Luther King Jr., Malcom X (they have differing methods but its good to learn all the diff. Ones) and film makers like Spike Lee.
I know youre on the good side of thinhs, but this is to those who dont understand it yet.
Yeah its hard to explain them that blm is bullshit when they all are virtue signalling
Has it ever occurred to you that you might the type of person who always has a thought of racial issues that your friends evidently end up hearing. Gee, I wonder why they would think you had an opinion? Probably because you always do?
@@bendover2684
You're WAY out of line.
There is a social psychological examination of this name "Helpers, Enforcers, and Go Betweens". It's companion reading for videos like this. It shows how socialization and culture reflect and reinforce each other to make these roles seem natural.
You missed the point.
@@formulah113 where?
Thank you Take. These are hard to watch but neccessary to me.
Thank you, indeed. I always appreciate seeing another liberal video demonizing all us white people.
Jd Jm You don’t have to come for the OP. I would also advise that you watch the video again, as it appears you missed the point entirely. God Bless.
@@jdm3072 poor little snowflake. if the shoe fits wear it
@@jdm3072 Sorry that your white fragility was attacked by my comment and this video that was created, that talks about a large array of topics and social issues via the medium of media. I am actually happy that you took the time to watch the video so maybe you can learn something and toughen up that sorry white fragility that you have.
Jd Jm if speaking up about black people’s issues is “demonizing” white people to you.......I’ll admit, I’m impressed that you have missed every point thrown at you
How about you talk about how many black men have been portraying black woman stereotypes for a while now I'm sure you remember the 90s sitcoms like Martin Lawrence playing "Shanaynay" and a few others like good burger.
Yes! Masculinizing black women and mocking us using stereotype and it is always dark skin women
* Dark skinned women
Martin's done it a few times- Big Mommas House.
Wayans brothers turned it on its head with White Chicks!
@@Chris-rg6nm but its a racist stereotype of black women...specifically dark skinned black women. in black cinema specifically...did u not watch the video?
Black women speak out all the time against black women dressing up as a stereotypical version of a black woman.
can you do a trope for Native american stereotypes in film?
Fr(I'm black) and the only time I've seen Native Americans in American film is Dances With Wolves. And that movie had the "white savior complex".🙄😤
Ive only seen the actress who plays Tiger Lily in 2002 peter pan but then they cast a white woman to play her in the new one.
@@squidwardtentacles7144 What about Last of the Mohicans?
@@kittykittybangbang9367 Last of the Mohicans is a classic example of white saviourism. It wasn’t even about the Mohicans but about a white man adopted into the Mohicans. The actual last Mohican died trying to save a white girl and barely had any words to say. I was rooting for him the whole way through.
"Reel Injun" is a great documentary about Native stereotypes in Hollywood
Keep going, The Take. You got it.
Go go go go what's next smart Asian trope, Go go go go what's next exotic Latina trope, Go go go go what's next Gay best friend 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@@ayeilak5 I'd love to see a video of the Latin Lover trope.
You're right! Keep sticking it to those white people! Who needs'em, right?
@@ayeilak5 it's already out
@@nemo2179 I wrote that a year ago when it wasn't out lol
Black History needs to be taught in every school 🏫
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The Take has been on point the last few videos. 👏🏾👏🏾
Ofcourse, The Take makes a video on Black stereotypes. Nbpoc : WHAT ABOUT ME?
Y'all don't know to request videos about yourselves and your oppression on any other video?
That's exactly what I came to say! Everyone (NBPOC) wants to chime in for their credit when it's black stories being told.
Seriously!! Always wanting black peoples struggles to be their own while not fighting for us
Well, I mean, they should still be told regardless I say.
I swear, like they see struggle and being a victim as a competition now.
right! It’s so annoying.
King Louis is referencing Louis Prima. The guy who's doing the voice of King Louie, his name is Louis Prima, he was an Italian. And that's how he actually spoke because he was from New York New Jersey area.
I'm Argentinian, so most of the classics that are named here I never watched, but I have watched some more contemporary one and I have to say that I've never been able to analyze this.
Of course that doesn't mean they are not real, and maybe me living in another country has something to do with it, but now I can see everything in a new light and it's really disturbing.
I also remember watching old cartoons when I was a kid and seeing black face too. How disturbing. I hope I can learn more and be able to watch things more in depth from now on.
Come to America and go to a black family barbeque. You will be blown away after watching the Hollywood portrayal.
Te entiendo totalmente, yo aún no había entendido porqué sacaron la imagen en esa mezcla de panqueques, pero este video me lo dejó mucho más claro. Va a ser súper chocante para mí ver ciertas películas ahora que entiendo el contexto, sobretodo las viejas.
Como argentino te puedo asegurar que nosotros tampoco estamos exceptuados de esta problemática, en nuestro país se intentó borrar y excluir de forma sistemática la historia y presencia de la población negra y afrodescendiente. Prácticas culturales como el corcho quemado en actos escolares (conocido en el mundo anglosajón como "Blackface", usado para representar a la población negra y mulata), así como también cientos de otros items culturales (expresiones, palabras, costumbres) dan cuenta de la influencia afro en nuestra cultura, a pesar de los intentos directos por querer sepultarla (el hecho de que la expresión "nunca hubo negros en la Argentina" forme parte del sentido común colectivo aún hoy, dice mucho al respecto). Es un tema que sigue siendo tabú y que ya sería momento de revisar y de re-pensar, sobre todo en la forma en la que el conocimiento académico de nuestra historia lo ha invisibilizado.
@@juanacosta47 Hola Juan, yo soy una Argentina viviendo en EEUU (estoy hecha media Yankee, ya hace 17 anos que vivo acá, te pido disculpa en avanzo por los errores ortográficos). A mi siempre me ha fascinado la historia (o mejor dicho, la falta de historia) de la población negra/mulata/afro-descendiente en Argentina. Cuando le pregunto a mi padre, que es "educado" y estudio en Rosario, siempre me dice la misma expresión que comentaste, de que "nunca hubo negros en Argentina" y que "Argentina hizo ilegal la esclavitud, por eso no hay nadie oscuro". Pero para mi, estas "respuestas" siempre me parecieron mas como escusas de una generación (mis padres son Gen X) que no esta interesada en explorar la realidad compleja e incomoda de las relaciones raciales contemporáneas en Arg. Tendras por casualidad algunas recomendaciones literarias o academicas que podrias sugerir sobre estos temas? Me encantaria educarme mas sobre la historia de Arg, y no se por donde empezar.
@@juanacosta47 totalmente! Mientras veo más videos de este estilo (sobre el cine y sobre eventos reales) más me doy cuenta de lo racista que somos.
Nunca dije, o al menos no fue mí intención, decir que acá no hubo racismo. De hecho lo hay constantemente, solo que no a personas de color.
A mí también me pintaron de chiquita la cara con corcho (blackface como dijiste vos) y hoy se me cae la cara de vergüenza por la normalización no solo de esa práctica sino del estereotipo de "negra que vende pastelitos calientes".
Yo también estoy interesada en saber más! Pásanos algunos libros o websites que tengas!
The angry/sassy black woman stereotype is so annoying,
Everything i do is taking like i was being disrespectful or that I'm "the embodiment of the stereotype"
So many of these black stereotypes aren’t really analyzed/called out, so I’m glad this channel is talking about this! A lot of these tropes/stereotypes have been normalized in our media, and it’s something that I’ve personally had to education myself about, as a black woman. I’m glad this is getting attention, especially for audiences that aren’t aware
The Jungle Book’s King Louie character was not entirely based on Louis Armstrong (although he was initially considered for the role). It was eventually modeled after Louis Prima, an Italian-American from New Orleans. The final 1967 animated character was also voiced by Prima, a renowned jazz musician and bandleader.
This not only affect society as a whole but black people as well especially dark skinned women. Sometimes perpetrated by black film makers. For example Martin. While his wife was this demure and agreeable light skin woman, her bestfriend was the aggressive, angry always the butt of the joke dark skin woman. It shapes how we perceive eachother and how we think we should act.
So... Holy crap, it looks difficult to portray literally any black character without falling into some sort of stereotype.
I guess the best approach would to be... Write a 3-dimensional character and not a 2-dimensional stereotype?
Unfortunately, it's next to impossible to write a character that doesn't fall into at least one stereotype. Stereotypes may be misleading and harmful, but they don't just come out of nowhere, they're always based on something. What really matters is the intent behind the portrayal of the character. Even if you make a compelling, 3 dimensional character people will inevitably stereotype them one way or another.
How about a villain
This video deserves way more views. Even Hollywood needs to see this
Grow up. They don't care in Hollywood
Has anybody seen bamboozled? That movie is slightly horrifying.
Django unchained was explicitly anti black stereotypes on screen and not a lot of people understood what they were watching
Joe Joey The weird thing is how many black dudes loved Leonardo DiCaprio’s character 😏
You should do a history of Muslim/Arab Stereotypes Onsceen eventually.
Yeah. It will remind me of all that "race studies" nonsense liberal college professors tried to shove down my throat in college. Ah, memories.
oh my god. for real. One movie that pissed me off with just the title was "Not Without My Daughter".
Layal Zaidan there’s tons of films that demonize Muslims and Arabs, in fact it’s easier to list films or TV shows that portray them in a positive light because they are so few, like that show Ramy.
@@jdm3072 *gasp* Oh no, an educator tried teaching a white person about other races, how dare they challenge us poor white people academically, don't they know their job is to reinforce what we already know and keep race out of our white neighborhoods?
I am relieved to see the coding of the cartoons I watched as a kid unveiled as racist within my lifetime
Can people stop commenting “can we get a” under black videos. Like I get it, I’m not saying they shouldn’t make videos on those topics but it’s so annoying when people only ever want to mention POC whenever the topic is about black people. News flash: black people are not your scape goats to start the discussion about your representation. If you want to leave a comment urging them to make more content aimed at another minority, leave it under a video that isn’t talking about Black people. It’s like whenever the conversation is about black people everybody wants to shift the focus to their own struggles. I don’t go underneath videos about Asian oppression or Latino oppression and be like can I get a video on black people🥴. It’s always “pick me, pick me” whenever the conversation is about black people.
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I agree but for a different reason. Why are people so weak they let a stereotype power over them?
So I'm here after a white man decided to say I'm spinning the race card when I was calling out racist bs in the Marvel fandom. The scary part is I actually started to think that he was right until I refound this video.
The marvel and Star Wars fandom are pure trash.
I think the truth of these tropes is seen in the reaction when a black person DOES portray a non-stereotypical role (ie. complex leads, not being just a support to white characters). Unfortunately, as a white woman, I hear groans from some other white people about "political correctness", as if this sort of treatment of black characters onscreen wasn't shamefully overdue. Just the presence of black people onscreen in positive, leading roles makes many white people uncomfortable because it's so unusual. That in and of itself verfies how pervasive these stereotypes are.
King Louie had nothing to do with Louie Armstrong. The character was voiced by jazz band leader Louie Prima, a Sicilian.
He was based off of Louie Prima but the character in the movie could have definitely been a reflection of the African American experience in America.
@@MrLogic88 That's what you're reading onto what is there. Interpretation is almost always more telling about the interpreter than it is about the source material.
in this regard the soung in the south can receive an entire video just to discuss it
I watched a video like this, but it's in Portuguese. I haven't even got to know about the movie's existence before that video.
@@HAngeli I know how to speak Portuguese, I'm Brazilian, I think maybe I've seen this video!
The Hollywood Confidential podcast did several episodes covering nearly every aspect of Song of the South. It was extremely interesting.
You Must Remember This podcast did a 7 part series on Song of the South. I highly recommend it! Very enlightening.
Oh, you mean the story where a boy is taken to live at his auntie/grandma's house for safety, because his daddy received threats for writing about abolition? (Not kidding, that is the actual premise for Song of the South).
If I've ever treated anyone differently due to the colour of their skin or stereotyped them in any way, (which let's face it I probably have, even if on a subconscious level), I am so, so sorry. 💔
Don't make us laugh. I hope you watched this FULL video. I hope you see all the evil your decendants are capable of doing.
You cursed people are destroy everyone, including themselves, and need to be stopped
In 1989 I worked in a video store in NYC and had a white woman call and ask for a Shirley Temple movie to be delivered. The requested movie wasn’t available and she’d already rented all the other Temple movies in stock. Then she asked if we had any more “darkie movies”. She said she liked to show her daughters movies that “showed Black people acting like darkies”. She was using these racist Hollywood images as tools to make her daughters racists. The damage these movies have done has not gone away and many of them are still readily available because they’re considered to be “classics”.
Really glad you included the ending showing that even though these early black actors portrayed negative stereotypes, they're still a huge credit to their race and really paved the way. We shouldn't forget that
In defense of JarJar, he is a senator and war-hero, although his caricature mannerisms are still pretty disturbing.
I think Key and Peele's skits have done an incredible job in deconstructing these ideas and stereotypes, not to mention Jordan's film work.
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You might want to take a look at Mae West's films from what my parents had said from what some program they watch Mae West's films which did have African-Americans in them were not potrayed as any of the above and nor were they just servants. They're her character's friend they actually were I think my parents said actually "People"..
@Malice Martin In traditional horror movie fashion, he was killed off for being black.
While stereotypes are bad, mockery is still 100% justified, so long as it doesn't cross the line into racial slurs. No group of people are above being made fun of, and calling free speech "oppressive" is the opposite of reality. A system where we're NOT free to mock is an oppressive one.
keep seething homie
I think princess Tiana is a good example of how to create a black character that doesn't fit any of these stereotypes
André soneca but it doesn’t fix the turn your POC characters into animals trope
And yet they still had her as a frog...
She is literally a frog for most of the movie. Also she fitted the "strong black woman" trope.
@@itzumiv I disagree with that. She did not fit into the strong black woman trope. Princess Tiana was a black woman who owned her own business in the 1930s. Give her some damn credit. So what she was turned into a frog. Do y'all have to be critical of everything and take something away from black kids.
Lisa H She fits the strong independent black woman stereotype who can do everything on her own and didn’t need a man and yes it’s a problem that the first black princess was a FROG for most of the movie.
There were so many film moments referenced here that I recognised seeing growing up (especially Disney films likes Dumbo and the Jungle Book) that I remember having a vauge feeling that something wasn't right with it, but not knowing what that was. As I've gotten older and learned more, each time that feeling has gotten worse and worse and I've been able to identify that it's racist, but not had the understanding or the knowledge of why or what exactly makes it racist. This has really helped give me a greater awareness of what the stereotypes that make those scenes racist are, where they come from, and why it's damaging, so I can better notice and identify them in the future. Thank you, this is why educating yourself is so important and I hope I can do better to continue to learn and to recognise the perpetuation of these stereotypes
This is a weird short story that happened.
So, I was bored and hopped onto Roblox to play some games with friends, but they were busy and some of them were offline. So I played a game I usually loved to play. So I was fighting a boss and then some random dude ran into the boss room and started calling people gay and whatnot (blah blah blah ) the part that really ticked me off was when I was about to leave the server, he typed in the chat "Black kids have no fathers!" I'm actually black in real life. And millions of black people have fathers. I could easily tell this guy was taking stereotypes from online. He was most like being a troll but took it to far, or just a kid seeking attention. I still rememeber his username. I'm not really willing to tell you though. I'd kinda feel bad for him if I mentioned username out to hundreds of people.
It's taken me up until now to see these subtle hints of racism in the way black people are portrayed and media. This video as well as the others in this channel that talk about back people in media have really opened my eyes yet I find it frightening how these stereotypes have becone so normalised by media that we barely notice them anymore.
I feel like The Take is growing more political in its content and I'm kind of loving it thank you for highlighting how what we see on screen can influence what we believe in our day to day lives.
King Louie is NOT based on Louie Armstrong but on Louie Prima, who voices him. And was white. His mannerisms are directly taken from his voice actor's behavior. I don't know why this has permeated the public consciousness but it's a bad take and shows up over and over and over again...
He was based off of Louie Prima but the character in the movie could have definitely been a reflection of the African American experience in America.
Probably because Louis Armstrong was their original choice to voice the character. King Louie wasn't even going to be in The Jungle Book made by Disney originally, as there's no analogous character in the novel. Originally in the script there was a larger Monkey without a tail that was MAYBE going to be the monkey king, but in the book they have no such leadership. And during the conception phase, yes, Louis Armstrong WAS considered for the role of King Louie, however, Disney, probably rightly, considered the controversy that would arise from such a casting to be... let's just say not worth the hassle. After which, they cast a white jazz musician, one Louis Prima, in the roll instead, with his antics and mannerisms inspiring the animators to incorporate those same mannerisms into King Louie's animations.
@@MetaSynForYourSoul ) exactly.
MetaSynForYourSoul Considering how little behind-the-scenes documentation remains for Disney's older movies I would love to see your source on that information, I mean this sincerely, I want to see it. Disney wasn't all that fussed about controversy in the mid 20th century. Also, even if what you say is true (not denying it outright but I am skeptical), it doesn't make the video correct. Also, American audiences at the time would have recognized Louis Prima's mannerisms and actions and so would not have associated these with Black Americans the way so many modern audiences do. Intent vs impact. People not knowing Louis Prima NOW does not make Disney's choice racist THEN.... note I am not defending all of Disney, they most definitely made mistakes. But in the case of the Jungle Book it annoys me that so many repeat the assertion in the video above as if it were pure fact.
@@vennsync8480 I'll do my best to give you decades old sources. If I can find or recall any, but before I do that I want to clear something up, I am NOT accusing Disney of racism in this case. I am saying that in 1965 Disney had an image to uphold and fairly early in the process they decided the couldn't cast a black man, prominent jazz musician though he may be, in the roll of an orangutan. Louis Prima was the choice from then on.
But to be absolutely clear I don't think racism occurred, in fact just the opposite. I think Disney bent over backwards so as not to appear racist.
this was beautifully done. i learned about most of these many years ago when i took a film history class taught my a black professor and he made sure to give us a real deep dive and long look at the history of black people in film/the media and it was so eye opening. i was only 20 then but 10 years later it rly stuck with me. so did the film Hollywood Shuffle which i saw at that time and felt super relevant even 25 years later after it was created. its only in the last 6 or less years that black creators have FINALLY started to be given their due (not enough ofc) and we get to see the work of people like Issa Rae, Lena Waithe, Donald Glover, Justin Simien, Shonda Rhimes, Ava Duvernay, Boots Riley, Jordan Peele, Dees Rees and Barry Jenkins just to name a few. Our tv and film landscape is the better for it. I hope alot of people see this video and learn about these harmful stereotypes and how pervasive they continue to be even Now. at least now there's more representation out there to choose from.
Another example of how different forms of racism can fly over one’s head unless one is paying enough attention. What’s worse is that the effects of this kind of stereotyping aren’t limited to the US or the western world alone, but American pop culture really influences the whole world at large, portraying black people as one dimensional characters who always act and feel in a certain way.
Thank you for the very informative video, everybody should pay attention to what ideas they’re unconsciously consuming.
Although this was hard to watch, I appreciate the much needed analysis and insight. Great work.
These old clips literally have my jaw on the floor, they’re horrible.
Can we please get a video about Asian racism?
A recent fox eye makeup has become popular in which girls LITERALLY pull their eyes out
I saw that... It’s total BS. It’s kinda stupid how white girls will make fun of minorities’ bodies for how they look, but then try to copy them once they want to be more attractive.
Can y’all not do this under a video for us?
Literally? You mean figuratively right? The word "literally" exists so you can speak figuratively.
@@yung1717 Where else they gonna do it?
@@xiphactinusaudax1045 Figuratively means metaphorically, and literally describes something that actually happened. No dude. They actually pull their temples towards the hair
Been waiting for you guys to take this topic on!
They showed clips of Martin and I loved that show growing up. (early 90s baby)
The darker skinned actress that they showed when talking about the sapphire, his wife’s best friend - is Tichina Arnold. Also from Everybody Hates Chris. I remember even being afraid of her character in Martin because of how strongly it was portrayed. (She reminded me of my aunt) I’ve thought about Martin since, because I recognize how his wife is played by the light-skinned, mixed Tisha Campbell and the implications there. But it wasn’t until I saw the clip of Tichina and remembering how she was depicted that I’m further understanding what had been broadcasted to me.
I hope one day you do an episode about lgbt+ stereotypes, such as the transvestite killer (showed in Hitchcock movies), the Flamboyant gay, the "innuendo gay men", the working class Lesbian feminist that hates men. I hope you do this one day, and I love the channel
Omg they did a video ❤️❤️❤️
Stop spreading misinformation! King Louie was based on and voiced by well-known Sicilian-American jazz trumpeter Louie Prima. He was popular in the decades before the movie, as well. And here I thought it was racist to assume someone's race based on how they speak...
Thank you all. Again. This channel nails it! Your observations are fantastic. Wow.
007: A View to a Kill was terrible in how it made Grace Jones’s character, May Day, a combination of animalistic, sapphire, servant, and jezebel. They made her animalistic by giving her unnatural strength-she was able to control a panicked horse by grabbing its reigns when no one else could control it. The people around her gasped at her inexplicable strength while 007 said “she must take her vitamins”. Another instance of unnatural strength was when she lifts a man above her head without any apparent effort. They also made her incredibly aggressive and physically agile. It was as if she was meant to come across as more animal than human. May Day was constantly portrayed as furious; thus, making her a sapphire. They saddled her character with the servant stereotype by making her character in love with Zorin (the villain) and being his loyal bodyguard. Then (spoiler alert) they solidified her role as a servant when she sacrificed herself to save James Bond. And of course it being a Bond movie she naturally had to have sex with 007 while also pining for Christopher Walken’s character (Zorin); thus, being the jezebel as well. Grace Jones is a talented performer who deserved more than this role. As far as I know, Jones was the first Black Bond Girl and when they finally create a Black Bond girl character they ascribed so many of these harmful stereotypes to her.
This was difficult, yet necessary to watch. Thank you, The Take.
This is a very useful breakdown. I want to include black characters in my writing but I want to write them respectfully. Some characters I've written in the past have slipped into stereotype territory, even though I wasn't consciously aware of racist stereotypes. I'm becoming more aware that the media I've consumed might have negatively influenced my writing on a subconscious level since I don't see many black people in real life. I'm also realizing that some archetypes that are fine for white characters are horribly offensive when applied to black characters. While I don't want to walk on eggshells, I realize there's a lot of historical context in media that I'm not aware of. I'll run all my black characters by sensitivity readers in the future.
As a non-american growing up watching American Media, I always assumed that black men talk like gangsters and black women talk ghetto and ratchet.
but now that I'm grown I am trying to educate myself on these stereotypes.
In this case the "stereotype" is real and factual behavior.
Maybe in your world buddy
@@thesuburbanblackkidpodcast4839 ...in my world because I'm surrounded by "them" and wherever "they" are 'cause that's the way "their" animalistic little mind works. Guess "they" are the missing link between apes and humans.
UGA ! UGA !
@@andycandal5934 ??? 🤨
A Patch of Blue was a story about civil rights and two underdogs. Selena was told by her family and strangers that she couldn't be independent because of her blindness. Gordan (Sidney Poitier) related to her fight for personal freedom.
I also disagree with them about A Patch Of Blue.
These videos have so much good analysis in them, but continue to include some really poor examples. King Louie is based the Sicilian musician who played him, and sings 'I Want To Be Like You', to an Indian. Bagger Vance was written as a white man, and is specifically the mysterious mentor trope, not the magical negro trope. Morpheus is the exact opposite of submissive, and serves his belief the Oracle (who would have been a good example of the Mammy trope), not Neo.
This is fantastic!
It needs to hit 1mil! I’ll be sharing !
It is sickening how hard they tried to portray the 'black servant' role as _heart warming_ and good. Its praising black people for succumbing to their ingrained Stockholm syndrome. I f*cking hate it!
I think I have learnt more from watching videos by The Take than I have for 14 years of school + 3 years of college. :)