THEY NERFED ONRYO AGAIN?! ONRYO 3.0 RANT!

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  • Viewer discretion is advised. They changed Onryo, yet again for not the best reasons. Witness the decent into madness.
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  • @ryanlutes9833
    @ryanlutes9833 5 місяців тому +312

    We have found that clever Onryo players were able to use her power. We have fixed this by turning her into a teleporting Pig.

    • @MimikyuDisciple
      @MimikyuDisciple 5 місяців тому +8

      Pig At Least Has A Semi Useful Anti Loop Ability. Onryo Doesn't Even Have That!

    • @DilvishW
      @DilvishW 5 місяців тому +24

      @MimikyuDisciple And a somewhat threatening passive slowdown. Not to mention Pig could also easily tunnel out a trapped survivor without ever hooking them. What I'm really saying is... nerf Pig.

    • @realjimmycasket
      @realjimmycasket 5 місяців тому +5

      That's such a good joke xD

    • @1m073zh
      @1m073zh 5 місяців тому

      ​@@DilvishW🤣🤣🤣

    • @MimikyuDisciple
      @MimikyuDisciple 5 місяців тому +1

      @@realjimmycasketI Mean So Long As The Survivor Doesn't Leave The Loop, It's A Decent 50/50. It's Not As Good As Spirit's 50/50 But It's Can Deal With A Good Portion Of Loops Depending On Circumstance!

  • @pyroronnie2473
    @pyroronnie2473 5 місяців тому +163

    She was actually enjoyable on PTB… how tf could they absolutely butcher her after that successful ptb?!

    • @gentlyvillainous
      @gentlyvillainous 5 місяців тому +31

      It’s BHvR what do you expect?

    • @breyor1
      @breyor1 5 місяців тому +16

      Because like always, people don’t bother using the simple counter play. So she shows have a unhealthy win rate, when it’s unhealthy Because the survivors not the killer

    • @maxdragonslayer
      @maxdragonslayer 5 місяців тому +3

      They couldnt nerf pig any more so they nerfed onryo to make up for it

    • @gentlyvillainous
      @gentlyvillainous 5 місяців тому +7

      @@maxdragonslayer what’s funny is technically pig got nerfed with the stbfl change lol, was one of her best perks

    • @DeputyFish
      @DeputyFish 4 місяці тому

      no high level pig used it.@@gentlyvillainous

  • @grungelives
    @grungelives 5 місяців тому +114

    Slugging and Tunneling is more optimal on her than ever lol idk how they screwed this up. She was so healthy in the PTB. I also hate how they used the term "clever players" when describing good Sadako players lol yea we are guna nerf her because some people are good at playing her.
    What a joke and slap in the face to a near perfect rework smh this sucks

    • @muffinman5958
      @muffinman5958 5 місяців тому +7

      Hard agree, the only thing they had to do was give some kind of liability to tapes or make the tape put up animation not free to do in chase. Either or and it would have been literally perfect...

    • @grungelives
      @grungelives 5 місяців тому +6

      @@muffinman5958facts the only issue was how fast they could interact with TVs but instead they nerfed what made the PTB so good for her and didn't change the tapes. Iv played like 7 games now with her since the update and she feel's laughably bad.

    • @shoul1
      @shoul1 5 місяців тому +3

      That’s Peanits, man. You can see it in every update he writes. It oozes with "killer mean!" "killer bad!" "poor survivor!" in almost every sentence. Isn't it great how they have a blatantly biased spokesperson?

    • @swampylogs
      @swampylogs 5 місяців тому

      the devs are actually very bad at their own game

  • @richt7525
    @richt7525 5 місяців тому +55

    Note for crafty survivors- if you hate a killer just do horribly on purpose in the PTB and watch them get nerfed to oblivion before release.

    • @purpledelrey
      @purpledelrey 5 місяців тому +3

      i think if i do this do blight theyll make him hit from the whole map

    • @DeputyFish
      @DeputyFish 4 місяці тому

      thats literally the point of the ptb. to test things

    • @richt7525
      @richt7525 4 місяці тому

      @@DeputyFish You must be confused about what I said. There's testing things, then there's throwing matches intentionally.

  • @ItlsWhatltls
    @ItlsWhatltls 5 місяців тому +51

    Next: We have found that sneaky Onryo players have found that they can hit players while holding tapes, and therefore we have taken away her basic attack ability

  • @plan8plants418
    @plan8plants418 5 місяців тому +70

    People with half a brain can counter onryo. She is only strong if you ignore her power. Her power is supposed to be strong. She is a basic M1 killer with poor chasing potential.
    The proposed nerf is worrying.

  • @joelmarbo7834
    @joelmarbo7834 5 місяців тому +106

    Michael breathing in frustration in the background.

    • @Axeice
      @Axeice 5 місяців тому +4

      It was my favorite part tho.

    • @Al_The_mediocre
      @Al_The_mediocre 5 місяців тому +1

      He could feel the pain by proxy

  • @rockyroland5808
    @rockyroland5808 5 місяців тому +44

    The TL;DR is that killers knew how to use the Onryo in the PTB and survivors didn't know how to utilize the counterplay provided in same PTB so they nerf the Onryo hard before anyone had time to actually learn a brand new iteration of a killer that has been drastically changed a lot recently.

    • @AlmosFeeder
      @AlmosFeeder 5 місяців тому +2

      THE TL;DR IS THAT ALMO2001 / ETHAN LARSON WATCHED ONEPUMP'S ONRYO PTB WINSTREAK. THIS IS FACT!

    • @The_B_Button
      @The_B_Button 5 місяців тому

      ​@@AlmosFeederYour account is literally some unhinged DBD lunatic shit and you want us to believe you?

    • @Default_Claudette_Morrel
      @Default_Claudette_Morrel 5 місяців тому +2

      What’s funny is he made a video while in the PtB, first thing he did was exploit her. He saw who he needed to get down nd tunnel to lock in and eff it from there on out, just watch the video 😂. How tf you make a video about how crazy and OP she is nd this is how to exploit it then cry when it’s changed 😂😂😂😂

    • @DeputyFish
      @DeputyFish 4 місяці тому

      yep. these brainlits dont think about anything. just clicks@@Default_Claudette_Morrel

  • @Daventry85
    @Daventry85 5 місяців тому +47

    BHVR: In the current events of survivors having frustrating times with killer powers we have decided to make pig traps fall off after 20 seconds so they don't have to be frustrated with interacting with boxes.

    • @korjezilla
      @korjezilla 5 місяців тому +6

      Padded Jaws is now base kit
      Since players were unable to use eyes to see the traps

    • @Default_Claudette_Morrel
      @Default_Claudette_Morrel 5 місяців тому

      That needs to be looked at next 💀. There’s been games where I get a head trap, I do nothing but run form box to box and can barely make it to the last one. And that’s if I’m not healed at all once unhooked and if the pod doesn’t happen to chase me or catch me at any of the boxes.

  • @angelrosas3724
    @angelrosas3724 5 місяців тому +82

    They should buff her dramatically to compensate for this nerf.

    • @smokcraft2672
      @smokcraft2672 5 місяців тому +1

      I hope it's capp

    • @whisperwoods2203
      @whisperwoods2203 5 місяців тому

      @@smokcraft2672 the only strong thing she has is her condemn.... and now thats shit

  • @ScaryGhostHalloween
    @ScaryGhostHalloween 5 місяців тому +48

    Dont fuck with us Onryo mains, we will literally have our killer nerfed because of survivor incompetentce.

    • @DiablitoKawaii
      @DiablitoKawaii 5 місяців тому +7

      Yeah honestly The average survivor is shit xD

    • @Default_Claudette_Morrel
      @Default_Claudette_Morrel 5 місяців тому +1

      It’s onryo mains that exploited her that’s why she got nerfed.

    • @DiablitoKawaii
      @DiablitoKawaii 5 місяців тому +7

      @@Default_Claudette_Morrel Great so now fucking Nurse players are exploiting their killer for ussing their Blink power instead of chasing you like a regular killer hahahaha

    • @Default_Claudette_Morrel
      @Default_Claudette_Morrel 5 місяців тому

      @@DiablitoKawaii I mean if you say so 🖖🏼

    • @DiablitoKawaii
      @DiablitoKawaii 5 місяців тому

      *Nurse noises * bleeerw @@Default_Claudette_Morrel

  • @McAulay99
    @McAulay99 5 місяців тому +73

    Sadako is the new Freddy, nerfed into the ground and left to gather dust on the shelf.

    • @orionpk
      @orionpk 5 місяців тому

      freddy is quite good in my opinion

    • @hunterjo118
      @hunterjo118 5 місяців тому +6

      @@orionpkI think he’s referring to release Freddy. That version was already quite bad but then they nerfed him after the game got review bombs from noobs who didn’t know how shitty he really was.

    • @McAulay99
      @McAulay99 5 місяців тому +1

      ​​@@hunterjo118 Both of them are bad but Freddy in his current state is also boring.

    • @sevendaystocry2546
      @sevendaystocry2546 5 місяців тому

      you are delusional then@@orionpk

    • @whisperwoods2203
      @whisperwoods2203 5 місяців тому

      @@McAulay99 now both sadako and freddy are S tier in the boring killer tier list

  • @MattJohnson-gi7lu
    @MattJohnson-gi7lu 5 місяців тому +27

    Onryò getting the pig treatment

  • @sub-zero5283
    @sub-zero5283 5 місяців тому +14

    OnePumpWillie: This is a good and healthy ptb for Sadako
    BHVR: OK *Nerf **-pig-** Sadako to the ground*

  • @AppleJackSix
    @AppleJackSix 5 місяців тому +11

    BHVR: “Clever!”
    Translation: We literally are worse at designing killers than our players are and hate them for it.

  • @xskyzel
    @xskyzel 5 місяців тому +21

    Just the usual DBD devs sh*t we're all used to

  • @KRONOS115
    @KRONOS115 5 місяців тому +36

    she needed a buff from the ptb not a nerf out of spite im tunnelling with nurse until Sadako gets justice

    • @xxtheghostxx6665
      @xxtheghostxx6665 5 місяців тому +1

      Sigma

    • @devxro
      @devxro 5 місяців тому +3

      she didn't need a buff, she was perfectly fine in the ptb.

    • @KRONOS115
      @KRONOS115 5 місяців тому +2

      @@devxro her chase is still bad and survivors could insert tapes in 1 second

    • @devxro
      @devxro 5 місяців тому

      yeah but she could lock in condemn stacks and could tp a bunch and spread condemn quickly. she was evenly balanced in the ptb lol.@@KRONOS115

    • @Default_Claudette_Morrel
      @Default_Claudette_Morrel 5 місяців тому

      Everyone who says that only says it to make a false threat, no one is scared of a mediocre nurse player. That’s why Boone complains about nurse, 1% cannolay jer and the others just think they can scare ppl 😂.

  • @IKnowWhatYouDid3
    @IKnowWhatYouDid3 5 місяців тому +14

    I was waiting for the king of Oreo to comment on these changes

  • @Isaac7even
    @Isaac7even 5 місяців тому +13

    Back to slugging it is

  • @steelrice3974
    @steelrice3974 5 місяців тому +8

    Bhvr wen't through so many itterations of Sadako, they finally found a version that was healthy and was fun to play as. They then decide to add all the down sides of the previous itteration plus nerf the condemm lock-on.

  • @TheKotzwurst
    @TheKotzwurst 5 місяців тому +5

    "why are we rewarding the players who dont know how to play the game by nerfing the killer" literally whats been going on for forever and why Im done playing killer at all

    • @crumbsidevault8777
      @crumbsidevault8777 5 місяців тому

      same. I just smurf and do challenges,I gave up on taking that 💩 seriously

    • @Default_Claudette_Morrel
      @Default_Claudette_Morrel 5 місяців тому +1

      What literally is funny is that OnePumpWillie has made a video about how exploitative this is, teleport over and over and guard the tv not turned off, don’t hook and chase but if you see someone trying to get rid of a tape, teleport to the tv they’re going to. He even came on Otzdatva’s video and boasted about it. He went into a tournament and beat professionals with the strategy. So how do you boast about how exploitative it is, how the general public and even a good team on coms can’t beat it yet cry when you’re part of the reason for the exploit and nerf??? 💀😆💀😆😆

    • @DeputyFish
      @DeputyFish 4 місяці тому

      yep its the same as the skull merchant players. they dont think of anything past MY CHAFRACTER NERFVFED ME SAD@@Default_Claudette_Morrel
      i cant jerk off while playing my characer anymore

  • @graphitedrizzle
    @graphitedrizzle 5 місяців тому +19

    I might be misreading the patch notes today, but it sounds like the condemnation cooldown is actually even worse. If you teleport, you start the 10 second cooldown, and if you teleport again before it's over, you not only don't spread condemnation, you actually reset the cooldown anyways.

    • @purpledelrey
      @purpledelrey 5 місяців тому

      hahahahahaha BEHAVIOR

    • @graphitedrizzle
      @graphitedrizzle 5 місяців тому +3

      Nevermind, the patch notes indicate this, but it's not how it works thankfully.

    • @devxro
      @devxro 5 місяців тому

      it's still laughably bad, though. it means you realistically can't teleport for 10 seconds if you want to spread condemn, otherwise you're wasting TV cooldowns.@@graphitedrizzle

  • @Frosty_Lawn
    @Frosty_Lawn 5 місяців тому +7

    Real stupid shit all around. The fact they even think locking in 4 stacks on second means anything as well. Painful to watch how bad they screwed it up

    • @iggyeo6458
      @iggyeo6458 5 місяців тому +3

      yea, locked in at 4 stacks on second hook is meaningless.

    • @taragnor
      @taragnor 5 місяців тому

      Yeah, as a survivor I could care less about my condemn after I'm at 2 hooks. lol, how sad.

  • @JasonTerminator2
    @JasonTerminator2 5 місяців тому +10

    They want slugging back

  • @calebprice7896
    @calebprice7896 5 місяців тому +6

    Behaviors balance team is a bunch of officer doofy’s

  • @Richard-zw9sl
    @Richard-zw9sl 5 місяців тому +16

    guess im just not gonna play the game anymore then

    • @theoldfartnugget6251
      @theoldfartnugget6251 5 місяців тому

      Poo poo ass devs

    • @JaneBigBootyRomero
      @JaneBigBootyRomero 5 місяців тому +1

      if your going to quit the game all because of a nerf then you must live a sad life my friend haha

    • @Richard-zw9sl
      @Richard-zw9sl 5 місяців тому +14

      @@JaneBigBootyRomero nah got other games I prefer playing than chasing up dev updates on a killer that wasn’t strong enough to begin with

    • @Richard-zw9sl
      @Richard-zw9sl 5 місяців тому +8

      @@JaneBigBootyRomero big words of somebody talking about sad life’s when you got an anime profile picture 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @JaneBigBootyRomero
      @JaneBigBootyRomero 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Richard-zw9sl damn. Homie is that insecure to insult me over my pfp lol

  • @ChaosTheStrange
    @ChaosTheStrange 5 місяців тому +9

    They butchered her so hard I have no idea why they did. And her Iri Videotape is???? What????????? It is SO BAD now I'm baffled and convinced someone must've been taking class A illegal drugs to pass it.

    • @dimasfahmi510
      @dimasfahmi510 5 місяців тому

      They turned an iri addon into a joke addon, i wanna know what they were smokin.

  • @DoctorCrescentMoon
    @DoctorCrescentMoon 5 місяців тому +13

    Sadako died so Billy could live

    • @anemite2
      @anemite2 5 місяців тому +1

      Which is an awful trade since sadako cost money, and people who paid for her don't expect to have such a lame character

    • @DoctorCrescentMoon
      @DoctorCrescentMoon 5 місяців тому

      Good news tho, it's been confirmed she is getting buffed @@anemite2

    • @anemite2
      @anemite2 5 місяців тому

      @@DoctorCrescentMoon yeah, I just saw the future update, is nice but still make taking tapes not a threat, plus condemning seems like only a end game mechanic with 2 hook survivors

  • @keltonschleyer6367
    @keltonschleyer6367 5 місяців тому +6

    11:50 There was, in fact, more to say 😂
    Edit: 23:00 There, indeed, was more to the rant 😂😂

  • @PatriciaTavaras
    @PatriciaTavaras 5 місяців тому +39

    *** NO DRUGS HAS BEEN CONSUMED DURING THE RECORDING OF THIS VIDEO***

    • @IKnowWhatYouDid3
      @IKnowWhatYouDid3 5 місяців тому

      The only drug consumed was a powerful toxic drug known as "BHVR incompetence"

    • @litledevel15
      @litledevel15 2 місяці тому

      All content creators are on drugs.

  • @chadjohnson2035
    @chadjohnson2035 5 місяців тому +5

    So should I go to back slugging with onryo

  • @DarkStormageddon
    @DarkStormageddon 5 місяців тому +7

    5 minutes in and I already wanna give you a hug, tell you to breathe and let you know that it's gonna be okay 😂

  • @Some_Idiot_Online
    @Some_Idiot_Online 5 місяців тому +6

    its like this did this on purpose to fuck with this man lmao

  • @realjimmycasket
    @realjimmycasket 5 місяців тому +3

    I didn't know you can turn the TV back off after you remove the tape, just goes to show you were right about the whole "new info, people don't know".

  • @Sharpshooter-zr9bf
    @Sharpshooter-zr9bf 5 місяців тому +3

    This seriously is so frustrating beyond belief. I was really hoping that they would keep Onryo the same from the ptb and then make additional buffs for her. Like more buffs for when she’s demanifested. Firstly to get rid of her lullaby, or to at least decrease the lullaby radius by a lot. Then I would give her longer undetectable after projecting and when demanifesting. She would be much more fluid and fun to play and still be fair for both sides. I just am so disappointed with behavior right now 😢

  • @foursdoa
    @foursdoa 5 місяців тому +7

    the new willie experience

  • @DefinetlynotaRat
    @DefinetlynotaRat 5 місяців тому +6

    LITERALLY WHAT ARE THEY DOING 😭

    • @pegeta
      @pegeta 5 місяців тому

      throwing darts on a board

  • @sevendaystocry2546
    @sevendaystocry2546 5 місяців тому

    I look forward to your up coming Sadiko 4.0 rant.

  • @orioninvesting4299
    @orioninvesting4299 5 місяців тому +4

    onepumpwillie, I uninstalled this game after i heard you. I uninstalled the game in the quiz there were no positions saying suvivor is overpowered but several items said killer overpowered.

  • @beastalchemist0825
    @beastalchemist0825 5 місяців тому +3

    I mean is anyone really surprised? This happens every patch update. It releases, it buffs killers and survivors. After ptb they say ah you know th killer buffs were too strong so we're needing them even worse than before the patch. Oh but survivor buffs that's completely healthy and balanced and fair. This game is simply about bashing killers heads into walls until they hook every survivor twice a game than go afk. I'm honestly surprised they didn't nerf grim embrace since that's a healthy slow down perk. I was waiting for the oh wow, grim is actually doing well do we're going to decrease the gen block time from 16 seconds to 8 to promote gen completion time since they definitely need it

    • @Default_Claudette_Morrel
      @Default_Claudette_Morrel 5 місяців тому

      They buffed billy and this is payment, they haven’t buffed anything survivor but been took MFT and survivor haven’t received a pay out for that!

    • @Duothimir
      @Duothimir 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Default_Claudette_MorrelDamn, guess there aren't any other exhaustion perks you can use. Made For This was the only good thing survivors had, literally begging for scraps. We need to raise awareness for this sad state of affairs.

    • @Default_Claudette_Morrel
      @Default_Claudette_Morrel 4 місяці тому

      @@Duothimir mhmmm. You get it. Rhey buffed all K’s but nerfed survivors. Ever wonder why you never see OnePumpWilkie play survivor? Cause he knows he can be destroyed by K’s of the same level

  • @ArchDethKreation
    @ArchDethKreation 5 місяців тому

    Im not sure if you go into it in this vid, but now that shes been nerfed into the ground how do you play as her? Shes just a glorified m1 teleporter now. Would you mind making a vid telling us how you play as this version? If you go into it later I'll see it so just ignore me lol

  • @Ben_of_Milam_Music
    @Ben_of_Milam_Music 5 місяців тому +4

    bro Willie I've been watching you for years and idk if I've ever seen you mad before. but I get it bro, I felt the same when they gutted Slinger

  • @arielalmada1606
    @arielalmada1606 3 місяці тому

    But this at the end wasnt applied in the game right?

  • @mustyrious
    @mustyrious 5 місяців тому +4

    My problem with dbd is the community and the devs never in my life have a seen a game company so lost o what they want to do. Do you want a casual or a competitive game, and in no healthy way they can balance the game to help both sides killers and survivors.

  • @V3n0m99
    @V3n0m99 5 місяців тому +2

    Very good summary. Factual, on point, expalaining gameplay for both sides. Its quite unfortunate what they did and whats worse is how they came to their conclusions. PTB was and never will be a good indicator for making ballance changes for killers. Perks and addons sure. You can play killer or survivor, use the new perks and determine quite quick how good they are. With killers, both sides have to take part in that. And there is the core of the crysis. Game that is heavilly affected by the caliber of survivors you go against, no MMR included makes it a shitshow. The survivors dont play good at all in PTB, some might but in a team game, you are as hood as your weakest link. I'd be very curious to see the 1st set of changes hit live version. Then you could see if theres need for more, but no, what BHVR does is make killer unviable against even the shittiest players who dont have a clue what to do and say: "oh it must be the killer being OP!" - hit the nail on its head with that Trapper analogy. One thing I would disagree with you though is your perspective on casuals and the argument that they need time to adapt. On one hand it is true, they would have to if BHVR didnt ballance the game for them but for the better players. Instead of actually learning a counterplay, they will just ask for unnecessary changes that most of the time ruin the fun of the killer(Spirit) or acuall viability(loads of killer nerfs). Most ironic will be the result of those nerfs. Somehow they dont seem to get that if you weaken the killer, then that killer is not gonna be playing the same way, will they? As you said with Onryo, why would I hook a survivor? No real incentive, just waste of time rather than reward. Its mind boogling, but what can you do. I really enjoy your Onryo games. Great video and that double fisting comparison was spot on and im gonna laugh at that each time I see our nerfed girl in a future game.

  • @JHardy19
    @JHardy19 5 місяців тому +1

    37:20 - 37:25 (...) complain that Onryo is too strong, and get her nerfed, that's what! Why would the Devs expect me to get better at the game? 🤔

  • @thedavidshreds
    @thedavidshreds 5 місяців тому +1

    Alternate video title: “man who exploits bugged killer for severalhundred match+ kill streaks rages when she’s nerfed”

  • @Thaznar
    @Thaznar 5 місяців тому +6

    I feel your pain brother. I love playing Sadako but with all these changes there is no reason to.

  • @GoldenDeer_
    @GoldenDeer_ 5 місяців тому +1

    Idk why they changed the locked in condemn. There was a value to hooking now there is basically none

  • @bengalbrown2834
    @bengalbrown2834 5 місяців тому +1

    I’m scared to death anytime they mention adjusting someone I use… like fr their logic is baffling to me…

  • @gowonenthusiast
    @gowonenthusiast 5 місяців тому +2

    bhvr not scared enough of us 10 onryo mains I believe

  • @Xdovahosts
    @Xdovahosts 5 місяців тому +2

    We just went through this with trickyboi, they will make everything better in the end... hopefully lol

  • @LPU_LiliPoP
    @LPU_LiliPoP 5 місяців тому +6

    Sorry I haven't been in the streams for a bit.... Also, WTF?!

  • @kadestewart6360
    @kadestewart6360 5 місяців тому +2

    I don’t know if you remember me or not but I was one of your first subscribers when you first started playing fortnite

  • @tomkimsour
    @tomkimsour 4 місяці тому

    I just started learning onryo and I'm figuring I'm starting on a really bad patch

  • @stevemudkip4701
    @stevemudkip4701 5 місяців тому +2

    This is the price we're paying for the Billy buffs 😭

  • @SheaSyz
    @SheaSyz 5 місяців тому +1

    i think the big problem for this onryo update is
    taking tape doesnt had downside at all
    should've like before which is gain condem every tick
    or if got hit by killer while taking tape getting condem
    because now taking tape doesnt gave any downside
    you can bring it and store it later
    that was sooo big nerf , tape is useless now

  • @Dark0thicc
    @Dark0thicc 5 місяців тому

    Idk if its its true but apparently i heard a streamer named Farmer John saying bhvr might possibly revert it unless this was the change i hope they do she was perfect in ptb very balanced sometimes i don't understand bhvrs descions

  • @lockdown7498
    @lockdown7498 5 місяців тому +2

    I main onryo and it’s hard to win in her current stage where you can break tapes by hitting them because like you said survivors aren’t stupid they take body block hits and they know how to counter it. I have a couple hundred hours on the game, meanwhile I’m getting put in games with only prestige 100s with 20k hours. And I get into games with hackers that try to hold me hostage by nocliping somewhere or something, but behavior looks at all that and thinks, “onryo is already really stressful to play and she’s bad let’s make her worse, oh yeah the nurse and many other killers are way better, let’s still nerf the onryo and the pig” I hate to say it but I think I want to stop playing the game because it’s not fun for me to constantly sweat my balls off when I just want to chill sometimes, they need to add a quick match and ranked play or something, but no they’ll probably just nerf the pig some more. I’m a horror fan and I do not play this game for a living, so I definitely am going to struggle, but the crazy thing that behavior doesn’t seem to understand is that the majority of the players that play that game every day have thousands apon thousands of hours, how are new players supposed to have a good time? Practice, and a lot of practice, but not everyone has the time to sit on the game all day. My friend played his second killer match ever yesterday and got 2 prestige 100s! And he lost his first game before that, Is mmr even a thing?? I think this game is way more competitive than behavior realize. What this world needs is a new horror game that has all these killers but it’s not based on hooks and generators and perks

  • @SadakoApologist
    @SadakoApologist 5 місяців тому +1

    Genuinely feels like they saw one potato tweet about losing super early because they refused to interact with the power and panicked, so they just slapped some nerfs onto her. She's legit just Onryo 1.0 but even weaker because now survivors ACTUALLY use tapes because it makes TV's come back slower.
    They did the exact same thing with Tricksters rework. People said ONE thing needed to be changed but they gutted his knives when he got to live in addition to that one thing. The fact that Sadako came to live nerfed and Blight was technically buffed is absurd.

  • @SoulFire9001
    @SoulFire9001 5 місяців тому +1

    BHVR: Wants to address slugging, tunneling, and camping. Also BHVR: Nerfs killer stuff that makes them do it more 😮‍💨

    • @Default_Claudette_Morrel
      @Default_Claudette_Morrel 5 місяців тому

      Actually OnePumpWillie was number one slug abuser on Onryo 😂😂😂😂. He literally has a video saying to slug and don’t bother with hooks and to teleport over and over. He was a guest on Otzdarva’s video and he was boasting about how exploitative it is, teleport over and over and just guard the one tv that isn’t turned off. That make no sense. You go on to boast about how crazy things and that no one can win against her, then cry after nerf? wtf 😂

  • @medli_7424
    @medli_7424 5 місяців тому +1

    Don't worry too much they'll change it in the Onyro 4.0 update

  • @defaulty_orlin9048
    @defaulty_orlin9048 5 місяців тому

    I just came back to this chanel after 3 years I remember we use to play boxfights in fortnite or when you shaved your head live. 😁😁

  • @rafaelgalindo4794
    @rafaelgalindo4794 5 місяців тому

    I just noticed my Myers is P49, same as your Myers is now too.

  • @Shigure2023_
    @Shigure2023_ 5 місяців тому +1

    U said it man. They were looking at the top 1% onryo players like u and judging off of that. Meanwhile me, even now with the current Onryo, I get cooked because guess what, survivors who know how to the play the game and grab videos tapes and turn off tvs. These nerfs are crazy

  • @itsjoxius
    @itsjoxius 5 місяців тому +1

    What's funny to me, is that their argument is saying tunneling isn't optimal to begin with. If the onryo wants to be scummy and tunnel. they would've done it to begin with, with or without rework. Nerfing her this way just give her less options than to tunnel. Which is what you were trying to avoid to begin with, and slugging. Ah yes "I now have no incentive to hook again, and now will be like old onryo and just slug again" LMAO.

  • @vINSIDI0USv
    @vINSIDI0USv 5 місяців тому

    I don't understand part of this change. I run ebony mori so by second hook, they're dead no matter what. So this condemn cap lock, is pointless for me. What are they doing????

  • @michaelurmo7984
    @michaelurmo7984 5 місяців тому +2

    Yay Behaviour nerfing another killer for no reason!!!

  • @DJPyro7600o
    @DJPyro7600o 5 місяців тому +2

    All hale tomas the tank engine!!!!!!
    But there was ever a question if this game is survivor sided here it is. Its like nerfing single larry if no one used EMPs

  • @akazatextingstories
    @akazatextingstories 5 місяців тому

    I liked original Sadako when she had her no cooldown on Teleport, but I only liked it because of old Iri tape because it was basically a kind of insurance for your TV’s, taking that Add-On away makes infinite teleport as useless as a fish on a bike, Pre PTB Sadako worked because you had to use the TV’s strategically, if your in chase, or giving condemned
    But I feel like one thing that needs to stay is limited range on condemn because it puts information in her kit, so you know that someone’s nearby, which helps initiate chase
    But seriously BHVR, stop shitting on a character that you just fixed

  • @MrVIrginiaLUV
    @MrVIrginiaLUV 5 місяців тому +4

    This is why solo queue needs to die and they need to focus on making everyone a swf. Killers dont need nerfs like these without solo queue players. Give Survivors mics, so they communicate. None of this would have to happen if solo queue wasn't a thing.
    People will not hear me out about getting rid of, or just not focusing on solo queue. This is the thorn in our backs, but no one will hear me out. 😂

    • @gentlyvillainous
      @gentlyvillainous 5 місяців тому +2

      I hard agree, give survivors proximity chat and a new item like walkie talkies.

    • @MrVIrginiaLUV
      @MrVIrginiaLUV 5 місяців тому +1

      @@gentlyvillainous I wish I could get more people behind this, but they dont entertain the idea.

  • @mustyrious
    @mustyrious 5 місяців тому +1

    I wasn’t too happy with the last update just because survivors can hold tapes all game and predrop, not to mention some tvs are right beside each other, she just a m1 killer at that point. I can’t even explain how oppressed sadako is

  • @lovesurfbunny
    @lovesurfbunny 5 місяців тому

    They can't stop us Onryo mains. I also love Myers, I agree with you, you are the best! Thumbs up.

  • @FantasticalFantasyFacts
    @FantasticalFantasyFacts 5 місяців тому +1

    At 19:58 send that diagram to BHVR they cant argue with this proof.

  • @jedibrooks7235
    @jedibrooks7235 5 місяців тому

    Freddy, slinger and now onryo

  • @IADin
    @IADin 5 місяців тому +1

    Surprised tombstone piece myers isn’t nerfed yet 😂

  • @mettsusharpclaw
    @mettsusharpclaw 5 місяців тому +1

    Sadako the new Pig, No longer will it be nerf Pig, but Nerf Sadako. Sad days BVHR. (Also the comment they made about tunneling as Sadako, that whole the just encourages tunneling and slugging, killing that lock on mechanic was the worst thing they did, just as bad as overheat for Billy).

  • @Mytea1
    @Mytea1 5 місяців тому

    FINALLY! thank you! finally someobdy understanding my concern with their fuck up on their onryo changes! it felt like i'm the only person complaining about these changes! 👍

  • @LowkeyHD
    @LowkeyHD 5 місяців тому

    Found out even with a tape if u turn off a tv you get 1 stack of condem

  • @BlackZexal
    @BlackZexal 5 місяців тому

    #JusticeForOnryo

  • @radianthero9961
    @radianthero9961 5 місяців тому

    I cant anymore.... I just cant

  • @shadowfazenewt
    @shadowfazenewt 5 місяців тому +3

    Father this isn’t you 😭

  • @tktxlegend4540
    @tktxlegend4540 5 місяців тому

    Based on the PTB build I was looking forward to putting some time into Onryo to learn her but with these changes, I have no interest in playing her now. I'll just stick to Alien, Artist, Deathslinger, Pinhead and Demo
    BHVR took a really interesting rework out to the back of the barn and blew its brains out with a Mossberg 500.

  • @jojoreferences7766
    @jojoreferences7766 5 місяців тому +3

    Why does bhvr hate stealth killers :( ?

    • @richt7525
      @richt7525 5 місяців тому +1

      They don't, really, and sadako is a shitty stealth killer thanks to the friggin lullaby that shouldn't exist and the brain dead visual heartbeat.
      What they hate, though, is any killer with a built in quick death system, other than myers fsr. Bhvr already struggles at making logical decisions from the other side of their spreadsheets of out-of-context data- this is exacerbated by condemned and it's pretty clear that they don't factor in survivor activity when balancing around kill/mori rates.
      Just wanna restate the above opinion- Sadako doesn't need a lullaby. She's weaker than wraith and HE doesn't have one. It's obvious things like this that drive me crazy while ppl argue over stuff like cool downs.

    • @blazeknight4120
      @blazeknight4120 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@richt7525Wraith doesn't have a lullaby, but he has an audio growling cue that is similar to a lullaby, just doesn't show up on visual terror radius.

    • @UncreativeHandle48
      @UncreativeHandle48 5 місяців тому

      For real, they make the killers have no terror radius but give them loud ass noises that alert survivors anyway

    • @richt7525
      @richt7525 5 місяців тому +1

      @@blazeknight4120 my problem isn't with the audio cue, which is SO faint with onryo that I still argue with ppl who think she doesn't have one. It's that it activates the visual heartbeat, which absolutely destroys any non perk stealth in her kit.
      There's no reason why she should have either to begin with. She isn't ranged, and her lethality is nil. It boggles the mind.

  • @kocomoja7018
    @kocomoja7018 5 місяців тому

    " I think we did a really good job so far "

  • @withoutonly672
    @withoutonly672 5 місяців тому

    26:30 Apparently, True is packing 9.

  • @yohan4027
    @yohan4027 5 місяців тому

    They mightve taken these words to heart if he didn't look like a literal mad hatter 🤣

  • @masternick1399
    @masternick1399 5 місяців тому

    I think sadako falls into the same mindset/ideology as skull merchant: if the killer is bad and causing issues in the community on release, they will stay that way no matter how many changes they do

  • @blazeknight4120
    @blazeknight4120 5 місяців тому +1

    Biggest thing i learned here is that Willie thinks I'm smart.

  • @peck5810
    @peck5810 5 місяців тому +1

    They butchered Sadako so much it can't even be classified as a joke. Hell, her Iri Video Tape literally makes it so you CANNOT SPREAD CONDEMNED. BHVR has just turned her into an M1 chase Killer with terrible chase potential. To make matters worse, they did this because players were supposedly tunneling, yet they make it so doing something like using the Ring Drawing add-on, ENCOURAGES you to tunnel anyone carrying a tape around. It's so stupid, and everything they wanted to fix, they just made WORSE. I might as well main The Twins instead of playing Sadako until they fix her.
    Just because a gang of Survivors are too stupid or too lazy to pick up a tape to save themselves, doesn't mean Sadako herself had to be nerfed into the ground for it. If YOU'RE ignoring your Condemned meter, and I chase you and kill you for it, is it REALLY my fault that you let yourself die like that?

  • @Barthzor
    @Barthzor 5 місяців тому

    kind of sad, ive avoided any spoilers for the ptb rework and then they did this. still okay against newer players though but am scared for the rest

  • @tanderson1480
    @tanderson1480 5 місяців тому +1

    The new iri video tape is also garbage 😂

  • @BraveCarnage
    @BraveCarnage 5 місяців тому +2

    Can someone actually explain me what the fuck the wanted to say with “teleporting to the wrong tvs” ? I actually don’t get it.

    • @breyor1
      @breyor1 5 місяців тому

      They don’t consider it, so it’s wrong

  • @fabionais966
    @fabionais966 5 місяців тому +1

    We need to nerf Onryo, her kill rate is too high! Now give unlimited rush to Blight and 7 blinks to Nurse

  • @cipher9323
    @cipher9323 5 місяців тому

    I don't even play Onryo, but I know this man speaks the truth 😂

  • @johndaly1283
    @johndaly1283 5 місяців тому +7

    I'm just gonna say this, as a newer player to the game, bhvr does a really and I mean REALLY piss poor job educating the players (survivors) on what the killers abilites do and such. Not to mention they are constantly changing things. How as we expected to know what to do half the time unless you are a killer main already? Like there are ZERO tool tips in game, even at the menu screen there isn't much info readily available.

    • @tbirdflocka898
      @tbirdflocka898 5 місяців тому +2

      Simple answer is they don't even play their own game. For christ sake one of the tips in the loading screen is that you can throw a pallet down when not near a killer to distract them. They literally think giving the killer your resources is a tip LOL

    • @SadakoApologist
      @SadakoApologist 5 місяців тому

      In regards to Sadako this doesn't apply though. Usually yes, but in the PTB they made changes to ensure that survivors have ALL the information they can to know what they should be doing. They made tape interactions a whole second faster, survivors now see the aura of TV's as soon as they're in range, you can see static effects in the air when you're near one so maps like Midwitch and Gideon aren't as bad, and even took away the downsides of intially grabbing a tape. The information is all there, survivors just need time to learn but behavior didn't give the character a chance. They just rushed out nerfs because the casual playerbase screamed that she was the same when any decent player praised them for the changes.

    • @taragnor
      @taragnor 5 місяців тому

      @@SadakoApologistNah not really. The thing is that yes you can see the TVs, but you don't know what they do. In fact, if you're used to original Sadako, you've been conditioned to probably avoid tapes 90% of the time. Couple that with Sadako being a rare killer that people have probably played few matches against, and few will know the counterplay. The devs really need to do a better job of conveying to survivors how her counterplay works. Yeah, it's obvious if you read the patch notes, but most don't. The real difference with Sadako is that unlike someone like Pinhead, everyone has to know Sadako counterplay. Onryo isn't OP and a fun killer, but survivors need some better prompting to get them to grab tapes. Aura reading on the TVs is definitely a good first step. I feel like it could benefit from some kind of enhanced visual effects as condemn gets mid-level and above to give further clues to survivors that something bad is happening that they need to address.

    • @SadakoApologist
      @SadakoApologist 5 місяців тому

      @@taragnor Ever since Sadako's first rework tapes have been the biggest form of counterplay she has. If you go to a TV at the start of the match while facing Sadako 2.0 and grab a tape as soon as the TV's are on you are completely safe from projection spam, and then you're literally just playing against a normal killer with no chase power. Yes, I understand that survivors need time to learn counterplay, but that rework happened back in August and she 100% got played more as a result. It's 2024 and survivors still aren't picking up tapes against Sadako. At some point behavior has to stop coddling the new/bad players because it's demolishing the killer. Her kit has been drastically simplified compared to Sadako 2.0. The entire counter is to pick up a tape. That hasn't changed since August. Sadako 3.0 was pretty good and any player that understood how the killer functions acknowledged that this rework is a nerf but she's HEALTHIER. If you're getting condemned against this rendition of Sadako it is entirely your fault because she has nothing to punish you for grabbing a tape. Catering to new/lazy players that either don't know or care to interact with her power is going to run her into the ground. Skully has a complicated power, why isn't she being dumbed down? What about stealth killers like Wraith, Ghostie, they definitely confuse new players, should they be nerfed too? The logic doesn't make sense.

    • @taragnor
      @taragnor 5 місяців тому +1

      @@SadakoApologist Yeah, I know that the best counterplay is going over and immediately getting a tape, but that's because I play Sadako. The counterplay isn't hard, it's actually quite good. It just needs to be taught better. Honestly if you didn't read the patch notes or own the killer, it's pretty hard to figure out how Sadako works.

  • @DJPyro7600o
    @DJPyro7600o 5 місяців тому

    Pre parch:
    Billy (hard to enjoy)
    Blight (STRONG AD ONS)
    Sadako (free condemed, oppresive to the uniformed)
    Post:
    Billy feels 1000% better
    Blight feels like skill is returned in results.
    Sadako why are you being robbed of your power?
    Why are killers woth baked in counters and side quests (tapes, pinheads box, ect) being nerfed.
    Killers like this should be like hexes should be: OP AS HECK! if you dont use the COUNTER BAKED INTO THE KIT!

  • @Cooked_As
    @Cooked_As 5 місяців тому +1

    BRING BACK OG IRI TAPE 💔

  • @assembled1855
    @assembled1855 5 місяців тому

    She will get a buff in the hotfix update just like Trickster

  • @genex113
    @genex113 5 місяців тому

    *whispering* gearhead