How to get best performance from Fat Shark / Walksnail
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00:00:00 - This goggle has got some problems...
00:00:41 - Unlock the goggles
Download the unlock files at: 0dc76d7c-011d-4e9d-92d6-cbf16...
Extract the two text files from the zip file. Put them on your SD card. Power up your goggles. That's it.
00:02:19 - Always "reset all" after firmware update
00:02:57 - Use the right channel number
00:03:25 - Don't use channel 8!
00:04:35 - Which channels don't have interference?
00:05:30 - Can't back out of menus?
00:06:34 - Don't use 1000 mW or 1200 mW today
00:07:24 - Use High Framerate for lowest latency
00:07:50 - Don't use High Resolution 1080p today
00:08:21 - Stick to 25 Mbps bitrate, especially if flying with friends
00:09:04 - Use 200 mW if flying with friends
00:09:36 - Standby Mode means you're not at full power!
00:10:53 - How to know if it's safe to take off: latency stability
00:13:57 - Latency is not accurate
00:14:31 - Optimal antenna setup
00:17:18 - Goggles interfere whenever powered up
00:19:22 - Why these goggles are good for some and bad for others???
Mads Tech's video: • Fat Shark Dominator Av...
Full price beta testing!
Like DJI V1. Remember the issues that UmmaGawd posted on his channel? Stuttering, complete loss of video, missing frames between goggle and air unit dvr? And that system was full price as well. It's V1 of Walksnail/Fatshark, they should have known better, but i guess they are working on it.
@@_seriousrob_ Yes, that was more than 2 years ago. Users should not have to put up with this shit.
@@ichi1082 Exactly....They are "free riding" the people who paid for the system, when it should be the other way around.
Nothing more great than a full release on a hype train having issues. But we see that with all products except for actual good companies who don't rush a product. Even worse present like it's 100% good to go at full price. They should have been open with us before release and not let the hype Carry them to this point.
You find the words 😂
Really seems like this system was pushed out way sooner than it should have been just to beat DJI’s upcoming release to market.
Exactly what has happend they lost the race to new equipment coming out and DJI has a working solid HD proven over 2.5-3 years..
@Seii-FPV Exactly! What's with all of the haters! TROLLS...that's what the urchins are! They either can't afford it or whatever the reason is??? Oh, and don't forget, the DJI FPV System is ROCK SOLID reliable, with almost no one ever having a single issue with the Caddx Vista or the goggles! To me, who's been in FPV for 7 years, it's THE MOST RELIABLE product I've ever purchased or heard issues about.
@@KOrnhOliO1 dude I’m no troll just speaking from experience. Sorry if you take offense.. I use DJI for all my work stuff only because my experience with it over 2.5 years has been solid.. I fly analog Freestyle and racing all day, my analog video is so solid I wouldn’t imagine trading up just for all the extra issues. And as far as I see the getting rid of DJI Hd would be a trade down for the current issues , it has its place and will work great when they fix hiccups. just don’t rush products to beat a competitor to release a product to the market. I’m a Fatshark fan over DJI but I enjoy and trust my v1 and v2 goggles..
@Seii-FPV exactly! So you choose to pick me out and not the main comment, go and test some more gear let me know how it goes for you.. my DJI is working solid 3 years and my Analog solid for over 9 years.. so what’s this new beta product you think is the new hype train I’m hating on... read the freaking comments and realize what we said! Dont RUSH a product to the shelves out of fear of loosing a customer to another product.. if you know you got the goods then refine it and release it without the kinks when the time is right... I own 3 pairs of fatsharks and 2pairs of DJI lol I laugh because 4 years ago I said all the crap you said about how I’ll never give DJI my money again they ain’t for fpv blah blah blah, I gave in almost 3 years ago and honestly don’t regret it for work my dude... peace have a blessed week and may all your gear fly amazing bro..
perfect timing! WS Vtx is here and now i can update and build my quad. Thanks!
Good tips JB for those unfortunate people.👍Personally, I hope none of my flying buddies buys this system and stomps all over my sweet sweet DJI video feed.🤣
No but seriously, we kind of have a routine where everyone picks a channel and some of the DJI guys fly, then the analogue guys fly, then some more dji guys have a fly, then finally the last of the dji guys get their first pack in and we are back to the one or two analogue guys again. Everyone is happy. 😊
Then along comes Fatshark/Caddx, with the cloned, janky, stomp all over everyone, walking interference system to ruin the party. Honestly they don't seem like they really want to be a part of this awesome FPV community we have going on if they think for a second this is cool.
I have this system installed in 3 quads and one wing. The three quads are working well with the settings you have described. I also have turned of vtx recording and crossfire telemetry because other sources have said that these may be issues. My wing has had terrible range issues and bad stuttering. My wing does not have a flight controller and you point out that without a flight controller the walksnail system will stay in standby mode. I am so excited now to try flying my wing with standby mode turned off. Thanks for another great video full of useful information!
How did it turn out?
Thank you for posting this video. People Need this, at least at this time in firmware and hardware options. :)
I’m legacy III , and I learned something today…
Is this like a low key reaction video to Botgrinder's review of the new Fat Shark and Walksnail system. Cause it certainly looks that way.
Great video buddy but again this is why true FPV is hard to get into.. dude even the Goggles are this big learning curve. I turn on my dji fpv and it all binds and just works.... That's what fpv needs to go . It's the test 2022 it should just work IMO. BUT THEN WHAT WOULD YOU DO ON THE TUBES? LOL🤙🤙👍👍
MIKEY
Analog for life haha, cheap and reliable
RC cars, airplanes and helios are quick and easy to setup but for whatever reason quads can be a complete nightmare. Two out of three of mine where fried new out of the box.
That analog tip about race band 8 is awesome I've always wondered about that.
That's a whole lot of can'ts/don'ts for a new piece of hardware that's so expensive. So insanely limited
Agreed 👍
Indeed it is. I'm thankful to have been in the hobby for more than 10 min to recognize all the warning signs and red flags that were showing from the get-go. A big one is the fact that Fatshark isn't really Fatshark any more.
@@austntexan it's been said by a few people that fat shark isn't really in existence anymore.
@@babyeater350 They aren't. They're owned by Red Cat Holdings, same group that owns Rotor Riot. I don't think Greg French has any stake at all in the company any more. It was a good time to get out and he was fortunate to find a buyer, considering they're competing with DJI by using stolen tech from DJI. I'm guessing the plan is to eventually sell to the DoD, probably using DIYers as their unassuming beta testers. They have contracts at multiple levels with the DoD and NASA.
Love the shirt!
So.. the conclusion is.... buy a 1080p very expensive goggles but set it to 720p to have a flyable video. Does that sound logical to anybody?
I personally have had good luck with the system, I have had a couple of latency spikes. But like there was a school in between me and the quad. I will try it on 700 mW. Instead of 1200 mW. And see if I get better results. As always thanks for the great content!
Try channel 7 also.
Thanks for the channel 3 tip 👌
The good thing about my analog hd v2s are, they are working. For all those years. No need for updates, reliable, and I dont mind having a lower resolution and dont wanna buy anything DJI or related. No problems about vtx compatability. I can sense if I an going to lose video soon. Antennas, I have spares and everything else. After I fly I rewatch my gopro video and that's it. We'll I am 43 years old but this hd systems are not yet juicy enough for me to invest. I dont even know if I buy one right now I could find vtx for them 2 years later. I dunno. I am quite happy with what I have. Unless someone makes a digital and analog all in one google, I ll stay analog.
what about the hd zero goggles that will release end of this year? you can use them for hdzero and have an external analog receiver that clips to the goggles
@@sirmissalot8065 hdz for me I ain't going back to analogue
Correct. People jump on the bandwagon and then complain. Same as it ever was.
@@elxero2189 Well that's also true, I did not think I needed an hd system still think its not viral so as long as its working there is no right or wrong choice.
@@justfly7730 nah it's not at all vital to switch to hd at all that's for certain. The problem for me was once I flew my system for about 3 weeks straight I did try dying analogue again and I ... I just couldn't man.. sorry hahaha nope nope noppity-nope noppers for me
I’ve moved from
Fatshark to sky04X and been pleased with it. I wish fatshark did some innovation on digital not this system . That menu is so clearly a DJI goggles system presented in a different way but functions look so buggy.
For $600-$700 it should just work
I want it to work so bad. But I'm not paying full price for something with a lot alot of bugs
I love the title/thumb nail..."It's you". That will get people going lol!
EDIT: You changed the title? 😢
I was about to post "that video about how crap the system is" but think to your video I know that I need to unlock channels and change some setting hahaah.. Thank you. I will test again tonight
Good video! I’m not happy about this whole problem with dji, should smooth out soon I hope, keep up the good work JB👊😎
smittyboi
@@fastpenguin stop following me
@@smiththemyth lol
@@fastpenguin no lol you are mean and poor hahahahhahahahhaha
@@smiththemyth Can I? 😬
Great coverage, as always. Can you tell me where you got the shirt?
Excellent video, Joshua! Thanks a lot! 😃
But yeah, they should finish the firmware already!
About your results vs Ian's, he flew only over grass and this system seems to really have issues when there are too many details... Like with grass. You know?
Either way, you should easily test it in your property if you want. I can always be wrong. 😊
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
“…they should finish the firmware already”
Software is never complete. There’s always new bugs to fix, roadmap/backlog features to implement and optimizations to be made
@@ThirdEyeFPV true, like with software that runs on different platforms. but these goggles use all the same hardware. not to say that it should have absolutely no bugs. but it is completely clear that the software on these goggles was some kind of pre alpha stage. no serious company releases like that. and still nobody can be sure that these will solve the blurryness anytime soon. there is no guarantee that this will ever be solved, sooo.. intelligent people stay away, until it works right. I think FS has basically no experience with firmware updates, look at their older goggles. but anyway, I think that the firmware is probably made by walksnail anyway.
@@hallio111 It’s clear the point JB’s video that is that there are certain processes you need to go through to have an optimal experience with this hardware and software - in its current state. And none of this is documented from FS or Walksnail which makes it difficult for even an experienced pilot to pick these up and have a good experience. I’m not defending this product - just highlighting that the market for FPV goggles is small and that great user experiences in software take time, quality developers and lots of usability and QA testing. Even the likes of TBS have struggled with this recently with the mess they’ve made of Agent X.
They didn’t get to that part of reverse engineering DJI code yet.
Remember how Caddx said they had the ability to implement canvas mode but DJI didn’t? Wonder how that came about.
That's the thing about stolen tech - you can only take it so far
DJI remains undefeated
Thanks!
Cool T-Shirt 👍
I'm waiting on future Bardwell to pop in and insult past Bardwell
Thank you for all you do Joshua. My BluRay of “Flowstate” just arrived in Canada this morning, gonna watch it later, when I have a minute.
Also curious to see what screen and optic engine the goggle 2 uses, and also how heavy the 1S Avatar VTX will be! And of course we will see reports of the new HDZero goggle this month at the race event, where anyone can try them out! This will be very cool!
What a time to be alive!
Thank you 🙏
DJI 2 screen and optic engine same as walksnail goggle
@@wiwi7553 okay, thank you.
Most goggles are very similar.
The 51 degree FOV made me think the display is a mm bigger. I guess not.
Makes sense, there is limited micro OLED panels and optic engines.
Thank you.
@@lemonsquareFPV But dji2 have wear sensor. It turns off the screen when you take it off
@@wiwi7553 very cool, good way to prevent OLED image retention. DJI always put so much thought into their products.
Thanks for the info!
Is the FOV really 51 degrees?
@@lemonsquareFPV maybe > 51 degree
Thanks a lot for the great video. (2$ well spent ob your Patreon ;))
This sums up a few good points that I will also make sure to try next flight… even small things like resetting the goggles, not sure I did that last time. One thing that I also heard from a few with 23.23.4 is turning off the VTX recording.
Great video, lots og important info. Thanks. I am not getting any of these HD goggles. They all have issues, and that sucks, and I can wait. I can fly analog, which hasen't been a problem for me ever. So no way I will waste 400$ for a year or two, to then buy the next best thing. Good luck with that. I am so tired of buying prototypes. Just finish the damn product before releasing it!
Walksnail/fatshark does not have the resources, engineers and 10+ years of vtx XP that DJI has. They will lag behind
I agree
XP!!! Made me LoL so hard! Thank you!
DJI final boss level XP! :D
People always hating on the lvl 99 DJI bot that hosts the boss runs... 😂
I don't get why people are so eager to dance on Fatshark's grave though. DJI are a horrible company with their invasive activation and the ever present feeling that they're spying on you. We need to encourage digital FPVs systems that aren't DJI.
Dji ain’t horrible. That’s you opinion.@@wattage2007
The goggles may be the initiator for the L3 connection. See the OSI model, that is generic enough to apply to a lot more than the internet.
I got this from RR:? As for the goggles you have two options, you can use omni which gives you video feed 360 degress around you, or you can switch to Patch antennas for long range, but they only work at a 120 Degree angle from the way you are facing, so anything outside of that will lose signal quickly.
Thanks for pointing out the "Standby Mode!" I have this installed on two quads and one was getting terrible range. This made me realize that one is staying in standby. How can I fix this? The UART is on and I have my OSD set up and working. Also have 'arm' set to AUX 1 high. Am I missing something here or should I just try a different UART?
i cant really imagine why someone would jump to this system after the whole sharkbyte disaster ^^
Hdzero is not a disaster document urself!
@@Fpvfixit Agreed - because Carl saved the system after Fat Shark threw it away. Which they will undoubtedly also do with this new system if the DJI Goggles 2 and O3 Air Unit sell well - leaving all of their customers unsupported and in the lurch again.
Fatshark basically hyped you and then flipped you all off with shark byte and carl cared enough to save it because he knows what fatshark did was take back a promise after dji show up and pretty much wrecked our hopes for something good. And we the supporters of Carl, felt that.
@@Fpvfixit It's penetration sure is!
@@KOrnhOliO1 Its range is rather good though. 12km yesterday only having to return because battery was getting low and ELRS was starting to struggle.
Yes, I was waiting on this to come out and see if I should buy DJI or Fat Shark. Defiantly going with the DJI goggles now. This is a couple years away from being as good as DJI.
This will never be as good as DJI
DJI engineering is just beautiful, and really good work. they have ambitions. can't beat that. and it is not only money, or budget.
That shirt was me when I had a 3d printer that I ever even got to use. lmao
I've seen multiple reports of people having issues when using the VTX DVR to record. This may have been mentioned but I missed it.
Hopefully WalkSnail releases another update soon so some of the advice in the video isn't needed any longer. It would be nice to have something resembling a finished product by the time DJI releases v3. What we've seen from them so far isn't going to cut it, and if DJI doesn't drop the ball I suspect WalkSnail may have a rough go of it, and that would be a shame since having two competing and viable systems would be great for pilots.
I haven’t noticed any problems flying with dvr recording. I’d be interested to know what they experienced
@@LetsFlyRC I believe the speculation is that the VTX DVR uses resources that could otherwise be used for the video compression, so in some situations it can lead to poor performance. It's a solution I've seen recommended to people having issues, and if I remember correctly MadsTech mentioned this in a live stream recently when he was talking about the settings he used during testing. I don't believe he was definitively saying that is the case, but he wanted to rule it out as a reason as to why he may be having problems he experienced. Apologies to Ian if I misremembered who is was that made those comments.
Your good dude bardwell 🤜
Hate to say it but youtubers are amazing advertisers for companies, honest or not. Most companies don't care if you spent your own money or they gave for free with free range. I'll always believe the chances of products can be rigged for better quality or performance because well, marketing.
But I have noticed in this hobby over the years, there is def variety in products. What I mean is some things aren't always shipped with same fw for example but the most obvious to me is not all products are holding the same smd components now a days.
That's the trick. Get your channel associated with How-To vids to build cred in the community then push product for fun and profit. It's funny watching all of this go down. There's zero chance I'd ever trust a holding company and DJI to do right by consumers. If suckers don't get massively burned by all of this, I will be shocked (but not chagrined). I'd love to go digital but it's too volatile right now.
@@austntexan I'm hearing ya, but I love my V2s 15 months on as much as the day I got them. I have a fleet of 5" quads now and some spare vistas and og cameras on the shelf so no volatility at all in my foreseeable future.
Keep your eyes out for discounted V2s coming up perhaps? But the best 120fps micro cameras with cheap replaceable lenses are unfortunately going extinct it seems.
@@KwaddawK Agreed. DJI owns the DIY HD space, there really isn't a question in my mind. If I were to go HD, I'd probably go DJI because of the range and out of the box experience. The V3s will be interesting. I'm waiting to see if the new RX will work with the Visas and related. If yes, I might just pick up some of the new ones. I'm on 1.3/433 for the most part. Works fine for what I do. I actually think HDZero will have a chance and honestly, they're the company that is most like the old Fatshark. Walksnail is not going to make it though, imo. It should be obvious that their product is, at a minimum, reverse engineered DJI hardware.
@@austntexan Yup. 😂
Rethink the title
Its just a title on a UA-cam video.
At that price the system is a pain in the derrière to be polite!
it still looks like a cashgrab- release. it looks like they expect DJI to steal their sales, and like they released it unfinished, because they had no choice. it amazes me how you can manufacture the PCB and stuff without a working firmware, if it is not a copy of the DJI system, which it probably is, not 1to1 but still. I hope for the early buyers they copied it in every detail and understood how to do that. because if not, by the progress of their programming, they would probably never be able to fix major issues in firmware.
Indeed
Good info! So a patch on the TX ant1 gives more range. But what if you fly behind yourself or outside the patch range. Will your image freeze of drops black. What happens then?
My guess is a patch on ant1 is only usable if flying long range in front of you.
Hello. Awesome videos. Just got into FPV and I’m using walksnail/Fatshark dominator. I purchased cheaper Omni antennas and when I went a little far(still in line of sight) the screen would start flashing red border. So if thought maybe the cheap antennas were it. Purchased rotoriot patch/omni antennas went to fly today and still get the red flashing border. Not sure what that means. My rssi signal is 90 so I don’t think it’s that. I’m lost. Kinda scared to fly any further.
Just bought a set on Banggood on offer from the HK warehouse for £308 posted. Sweet.
Your T shirt is extremely relevant to this video. Your hardware experience depends on your firmware settings on these goggles and your 3D printer. ⚙
I buy glasses for $600 since they have 1080p 60 and 50Mbps mode, but I have to leave it all out to get any results. I need to read 100500 articles to know how to set them up, because what I have now does not work. It is necessary to make a million compromises in order for the glasses to somehow show, but it's not the manufacturer's fault, but the one who uses them, because he does not know these "features". Dear JB, don't you think that the finished product should work right out of the box as it should. Everyone shouts in unison that this is already the DJI level, but as this video clip shows, this system is still far from DJI.
It's like in the video game industry, buy now at full price, and in a couple of years we'll make a game, maybe
"Dear JB, don't you think that the finished product should work right out of the box as it should."
The video opens with me saying, "This goggle has some problems. And you spend $600 on a product, you have every right to get a working, mostly problem free system. And that's not where it's at today."
So I think I answered your question in the very first seconds of the video.
Why do I think of Botgrinder as I watched this?
cuz this video was made for him
The only one out of all these so called "influencers" who DARED to keep it 100% real!
Hey Joshua it may sound like a newbie question but on the standby mode situation, is there anyway you could do a short video on how to set that up? I really don’t think anybody has.
OOOOOOOooohhhhhhhh.....the title. LOL This is gonna go well. The comments in this video are gonna go off. I think it's a good video though.
Yeah I noticed the title change and I'm just gonna say today's not a good day at all. But a product like this since day one had heated beef behind it by many so we all know and accept the risk and consequences of any video release of topics like this
@@odyss160 oph....you're right. He changed the name. Not a great look. But, everyone makes mistakes. The launch of this product has been botched. I have nothing against RR/Fatshark. BUT, it seems like a lot of people do. I kind of believe that if RR/Fatshark was not a part of this product launch you'd see a majority of people go "Fuck yeah Caddx! Way to reverse engineer DJI!" No one is willing to give this product the same sort of patience that people are giving HDZero (is it warranted idk). People wanted more competitors to DJI and when another option pops up. They seems to jump at the opportunity to shit on it.
LOL. For the people who read this comment after Bardwell's change, the title for this video was previously: "Fat Shark/Walksnail So Bad? IT'S YOUR FAULT".
@@DanZfpv I can't speak for everyone but if caddex/walksnail and fatshark was actually open to the public and didn't skirt around our questions and concerns 9n the product when we ask unlike Carl whose always had the community as well as our feedback in mind,... we all wouldn't have had to go digging for our truth to all this. Which made some of us outraged to begin with. Then because of youtuber hype and early release they netted everyone who bought them at full price and gave us a rushed product with alot of issues and missing features. There's is no excuse for this at this price point period. Yeah I want caddex to do fantastic with this but I'm personally tired of rushed products to beat the competitor. It's absolute bull. Slow your roll and deliver a promise.
@@TheDiegoAranda after or before it was "it's you" after the first bit about walksnail. Before all that it was actually pleasant if I remember corectly
Brilliant video this , thanks 🙏🏻
The vtx signal been bidirectional would it mean not receiving the acknowledgment could be used like a fail switch triggering a stabilizing state or even return to home option?
So if I fly just around me (freestyling), not making long range... Should I have TX antenna Patch or rather omni on the top of my goggles??
What can you do about it? Buying the right system....dji in my case...works flawlessly in picture quality and range...
weird when I did the update I put both files on the sd card and when I booted up the goggles it showed all 8 channels, and then seconds later it changed back to 3... the 1200mw mode still remains but the channels do not exist.
goggles 2 and the new dji air unit is coming to save us dont worry
Yep. Save us with $250-$300 per quad. I'll pass, hard pass.
@@AndyDreadFPV yeah but IF the old air units work with the goggles2, then this will be amazing. and if the new cam is 10bit 4k60 onboard, even more. I am still confused because the v2 goggles will work with the new air unit, at least I think so, and if that is true, shouldn't the goggles2 work with the old air unit too? if so, I will def. save up for the goggles2.
🔥🔥🔥
any hope that we can get away from having to do a reset all after the firmware updates? It is a small pain to have to rebind all aircraft to the goggles. Today for me not a big deal as I only have one or two. But more than that then it becomes a huge maintenance task.
Pretty common issue with firmware in many devices… would be cool if you could “reset all, except binds” that would be awesome!
Walksnail… if you are listening, see if you could implement this in your system!
This would annoy me, as well. One of the biggest pain in the asses of owning the DJI fpv drone and having Vistas and air units was having to rebind either or, after using the other. I hope they figured that out, since it looks like they're going to use the same system for the 03 air unit as they did for the DJI fpv. I barely flew the thing, mostly because I didn't want to rebind eight AU and Vistas after each use, and having dedicated goggles is too Rich for my blood.
Wow information overload what ever happened to plug and play. I’ll be sticking with trusty old analog for the time being.
Thats my case, BW. My goggles is soo dump. I am so stressfull and would like to get a dji. but I am a little scare about the FPS, thats a huge difference. Do You think, 120p to 60p is a consider difference to get a dji to make a freestyle? (easy freestyle😅)
That's a heck of a lot of settings you need to watch in order to make this work. Way more complicated than it should be. Feels very much like a beta product...
Agreed
Way too many issues for $600. I feel bad for those who purchased this beta system
Will unlocking the channel and run at higher speeds in general won't burn up my VTX in my whoop will it? I'm running 1s walksnail lite VTX and I don't know if it will damage the equipment due to too much frequency power?
Wow, reminds me of paying Tesla for a chance to some day have self driving.
I really like Fs/Ws goggle form factor.
After I saw dji goggle 2's design, I am all in DJI FPV video system.
I heard DJI goggle 1 V2 compatible with DJI Avata drone, obviously new DJI goggle 2 will works with existing air unit/caddx vista vtx, hopefully.
Does WalkSnail Avatar VTX go into stand by mode when your remote control and goggles are turned off, I am having issues with it getting really hot when trying to download video from it when there only thing that is powered on is the flight controller and VTX by the battery. Any solution other than a fan? I was hoping that stand by mode was enough?
Hahahaha I laughed so much at that plug
I don't understand why the patch antenna on the transmitting google port is the best solution.... That is good if you fly always in front of you isn't it? if you fly behind yourself the patch is not going to reach the VTX and will loose the link?
I just ordered a set of Dominators from Rotor Riot. And now I’m already regretting that decision.
I was on the fence about this system for a long time. Waiting to see if it pulled through. In a moment of YOLO I ordered them. Having to basically set all settings to the minimums in order to achieve acceptable performance is not satisfactory.
Wonder if it’s not too late to cancel my order.
Why not cancel and just wait a bit longer? To either give FS/WS more time to fix this half-baked system, or to see what the DJI Goggles 2/O3 Air Unit have to offer.
return that man, new hardware just around the corner, why would you buy now?
PFTTTT
@@TheDiegoAranda That's the smartest decision. It's the worst time to buy goggles of any time in FPV history, RIGHT NOW! DJI V3 and HDZero goggles coming with Porqa coming somewhere in the long future! lol Damn they're SLOOOOOOW! And way. WAY to expensive!
If they haven't shipped - CANCEL THOSE MOFO's! Bad time to buy - too much new gear on the horizon.... :)
My idea on putting patch antenna on the transmit connector is this: The data going back to the drone is just slow informational data, not video, and as such has FAR less bandwidth requirement. It doesn't need a high gain antenna. That data link, even on an omni, should outlast the video link. I say "should"... but in practice?
Great video! Do not find your patch antennas thow. Can u get me a link? They are TrueRC X-Air, but don't find them as single Antenna with RP-SMA connector and LHCP, Thanks a lot
They are sma and I have adapters.
After September... All these crawlsnail stuff will be on second hand market, half priced 🤣
They are currently disabling dvr recording cause fpga has not enought power and when you are recording, it cause big lags in transmission, buffering runaway, and then crash.... What a pity
Which foam is that looks comfy
Hey @Joshua Bardwell. My Walksnail goggle whould not bind with the VTX nano system. What could i do?
the reason its so buggy is they rushed it to market to beat DJI because they knew if DJI got their system out first this would be a non starter. I feel for anyone who buys this.
it came out first and it's still a non starter
It's buggy b/c it's stolen tech. The entire system was essentially reverse engineered from DJI hardware. Not many people are talking about this yet, but it's coming. That's the only reason people are still being civil on this channel(they are unaware).
@@austntexan literally everyone has been talking about it from before day one.
So nowadays you pay to fix things. I miss the old days.
Byte frost shark byte second fiddle to dji. Same pattern again I feel. Unless they get into updates and fast worrying thing is there already at50 mbps.
@JoshuaBardwell I think your video title is messed up. Maybe you meant to i dunno.
Old skool analogue pilot here…. This is bullshit. Firmware update, unlock…… just a fucking chore. Boresnail.
is it still true not to use 1080p and stick with 720? also what about the bitrate. just got walksnail so trying to figure out the best settings, also i fly by myself
Analog for at least 12 months for me. FPV changes too quick! I'll wait till they get it right like the hdo2s I still love mine and I'm ok with anologe till they get it right!
Yeah I enjoy the analog image hey, just a feel to it I like. Dunno why but hey each to their own.
DJI has “got it right” long ago.
@@SilverFox80521 sort of, for professional flying for sure!!! But not for every use case just as analog is not good for evey use case.
I've seen military FPV stuff that makes DJI look pretty avg.
Can you use stock Dji goggles antenna on the fatshark dominator avatar hd goggles?
Are there instructions anywhere for how to swap the transmit antenna to be front-facing?
China. What a pain in. How many goggles does everybody have? I have 3 and have yet to program a flight controller or set up a qx7 or the $40 flysky.
Oh boy is that a clickbaity title. I really can imagine the gears in your head turning, thinking "oh yeah I'll just tell people it's THEIR fault that this shitty video system doesn't work, that is surely going to give me a lot of nice, civil comments - lot's and lots of interaction to boost my content in le YT algo". Thanks for the free content though, helpful as always.
This video's purpose is to remove the egg from his face. I'm amazed that more people aren't calling him out on this crap.
If anyone was waiting the Bardwell drone Analog kits are back in stock. Picked up two of them yesterday.
It's me... 😉
Good informative video Josh. 📹 Coming from a Network Infrastructure Engineer. Go Wifi 6 lol
So it’s only usable if you use settings that are illegal pretty much anywhere in the world? I know that no one uses 25mw, but having to ramp up to 1200mw to get the best out of it doesn’t sound a good idea.
Where did you get the faceplate foam for your Dominators from?
Newbeedrone DJI foam.
@Joshua Bardwell the newbeedrone dji foam is so good 🏆
This is how you call out Botgrinder with out actually calling out Botgrinder :) Thanks Joshua for doing what you do.
I may not always agree with Botgrinders style of content, but he was right. The system isn't usable in a large number of configurations.
In product engineering if you need an entire instructional video of specific conditions you need for a product to function correctly, it's not a sellable product.
That said, this video is a great piece of information to help people use their system until software patches come out.
@@csg2000 that's literally all of FPV. Except you usually need a whole series of 4+ videos or very long instruction guides
@@MeshJedi that may have been true 2-3 years ago, but all of the new stuff is pretty damn easy to use and doesn't have large sections of functions that don't work as intended.
I plug an air unit in, activate it, and it works on every setting combination you could think of.
I built a 65mm whoop last night with an AIO board, vtx came pre-configured. I selected my channel and hey look it works perfectly.
If you have been in the hobby for a few years and still need this much information to make a system work, it doesn't.
@@csg2000 a new guy building his first drone is still looking at a minimum 4 episode series on drone building and programming BF and reading several large guides. Unless he buys RTF no solder drone and never changes anything.
What foam you using on those avatars J?
Newbeedrone DJI foam
What type os micro sd is supported, my goggle cant detect u3 A1 micro sd, using ext fat32 format, can anyone help please.
hold up. how do you solve the "Standby mode" not going away when arming? I have the OSD overlay.. but distance and penetration is poor. I think i got it wired correctly. How do I check?
If you have OSD overlay, then you know MSP connection is working, and the system must know you are arming. You can try turning off temp protection / standby mode, but you shouldn't have to :-/
@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks for your reply. I will turn it off next time and see if penetration is better.. but yeah, it's not something i would want to have to do manually. :(
Do you know what it transmits at if its in standby? I get like 200 meters before I lose frames. True RC stubbys on all ports.
@@JoshuaBardwell That was it btw. Turned off 'standby mode' manually today and had double the reach with just 250mW and I wasn't even at the limit (still 25mbs). Walksnail/FatShark need to work on this. I think people are showing bad results because communication and support is poor.
I don't view all those videos so maybe you already answered it, did you also test how an nd filter on the FPV cam could help using the Bitrate better? I guess this could give nice results until 50mode is better...
@Trung Phan if you fly low to ground and have a lot of fast moving sharp details (gras, rocks) the codec needs a lot of bitrate to store this much information. as pilots we dont need all of this information to be sharp, it's ok if it is motion blurred. so we might even think it looks smoother and sharp enough, but the codec now has more bitrate left for other (more important parts of the image). it's an often overlooked feature since many pilots only use ND filters on their gopros...
@Trung Phan correct. and while on the example of JPEG: if you have a lot of detail in a pic - you will notice it's really large, while if you just take a picture of the evening sky with nice colors but few details - it's relativly small (even tho it has the same pixel dimensions)...
So these goggles are like BMWs, they work but they are quirky and a PIA.
"Work"
@@TheDiegoAranda I mean, technically they "work".
Never saw a 6 speed BMW where only 2 gears work..."dont use the top gears, they need new firmware"
@@Fly_High_FPV I was a BMW technician and a lot of issues (not all) were fixed with module reflashing and updates.
I am looking for an hd digital video transmitter for my gopro camera which can directly support gopro's HDMI for my fpv project. Is there an option out there which can do this? All the fpv hd transmitter seems to come with its own camera.
There isn't an FPV video transmitter that takes HDMI in. There are some wireless video transmitters, but not FPV ones.
@@JoshuaBardwell Which are the wireless transmitters?
You are putting alot of work in making this system work. Why did you not show all theses settings you made in your last reviews?
Some of this content, I have covered in previous videos, but you might not have seen it because you didn't watch the video.
Some of the features I discuss here, like 1200 mW and 50 Mbps and 1080p mode, did not exist in the past. So I didn't cover them. Because they didn't exist.
Some of the content in this video is the result of weeks of real-world experience using the system with other pilots who are also using the system. It wasn't possible to have that experience on launch day, because I didn't have the system.