First Impressions - TTARTISAN 28mm f/5.6 Lens - Leica M6 and M10-P
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- Опубліковано 30 лис 2021
- My first impressions of the brand new TTARTISAN 28mm f/5.6 for Leica M-Mount cameras. Tested on the Leica M6 with Kodak Tri-X film and Leica M10-P
DropBox Link to Sample Photos : www.dropbox.com/sh/be1oirjuih...
To Pre-Order the TTARTISAN 28mm f/5.6 : photorumors.com/store/ - Наука та технологія
Would love to see a video placing this lens head to head with the Leica Summaron-M version......
I made a mistake in the video the Leica Summaron has a 34mm front thread not 37mm which the TTARTISAN has 😵💫
I look forward to seeing a comparison of the two lenses - image quality/character, that is.
Images look great for such a small inexpensive lens, always liked the Summaron version so maybe a quick comparison in your final review would be nice. Either way great video Darryl!
it's such a cute yet elegant looking lens! also, the sample photos are gorgeous, it really looks outstanding for the price
Hi Wilson, for the price its a really good deal.
Wow its WAY cheaper than I thought it would be, the quality looks very nice. I don’t see any issue with reproducing these older lenses.
I hope TTARTISAN makes a black version that will sell like hot cakes
@@DarrylCarey I bet that if (when) they do, they will up the price by 30% (at least)! 😁
@@DarrylCarey They did in brass! I have just pulled the trigger.
@@erichung9043 Nice, let me know how you go when you text the lens
Really cool that modern lenses are being made in the same style as the old Leica screw mount lenses. I might have to pick this one up.
Thanks for sharing. This was a genuinely useful and professional look at what this lens can do. I just might get one for myself. Jan.
Thank you for this video. A very nice overview. I would definitely like to see a comparison between the Leica 28 Summaron and this new TT Artisan 28/5.6. My only Leica 28mm M lens is a 28mm f/6.3 Hektor, definitely an oldy but in excellent condition. I jumped on the preorder bandwagon for the TT 28/5.6 thinking of it as a possible upgrade from the 28 Hektor. I do have a very nice vintage Leica 35mm f/3.5 Summaron (LTM) so the TT 28 will make a nice companion in that they look near identical from a distance.
Again, thanks for an excellent video.
Don
Thank you for this introduction and “First impression”. I’m sold. $300 vs $3000 USD. I’m a Leica fan boy but money says TTArtisans. And that they’ve made identical to Leica - okay… I’ve put my preorder in. Very excited to add this jewel to my kit. Thank you again for a great video. Chaps
Hi Chaps, let me know what you think of the lens when you get it
I have been looking forward to this review. I am happy to hear you have been one of the first ones to get your hands on this lens. If I could complain about anything it would be very uncommon filter thread. Finding 37mm yellow filter might be a challenge
Filter size has never been a problem as I used step-rings as I have some old colour filters in 52mm ...plus I have a few 43/46mm filters... step-up rings are super cheap. The VND I used the Canon R5 video was a 46mm with a 37-46mm step-up ring
Nice video. Just got mine last night. Heading out now!
Great to see your review….. waiting for mine… ordered mine last week
Hi Simon, have you recevied the lens yet?
@@DarrylCarey Hi Darryl…. Just received, was delivered on Christmas 🎄 Day…. Haven’t used it yet, but initial feeling of weight and solidly made. Surprised by the quality. Maybe the focus isn’t as smooth as Leica or Light Lens Lab…..but for $290 I’m really impressed
Does it need to be calibrated like the others? Is it rangefinder coupled? Still waiting on my copy :)
Hey Ben, hope you're well. Yes its rangefinder coupled and no did not need to calibrate the lens, which is nice. It's shocking how much the lens feels like the Leica Summaron 🤯
@@DarrylCarey awesome, appreciate the info. Love the videos. 🙌🏼
@@benjhaisch Thanks Ben, just wish I did not look so tired in the video. Really enjoyed your last video on building a Canon system, are you using a Pro Mist filter to shoot your videos, Tiffen are sending me a couple to test. Any plans to shoot a wedding on an XPAN😉video????
@@DarrylCarey haha yeah my last video had a little too heavy of a diffusion filter ;)
If I could get my hands on an XPan, I’d be all about it. I’m even considering just shooting one in XPan crop on the GFX as a second for a friend or something.
First non Leica lens on my Leica m3 and m6 but wow….. amazing.. please make a comparison video!
Hey Eric, it feels really well made and fun to shoot with. If you do n to mind me asking, what lenses are you using on your M3 and M6?
@@DarrylCarey Hey Darryl, on my m6 35mm cron v4 is permanently attached and on my M3, 50mm summitar (6blade) and 50mm lux asph are being used a lot. I think this 28 would definitely go on my m3 with a finder.
Thank you for the review! I was really hesitant about buying a Chinese brand but tour video helped a lot :)
Hi, thank you for this review! Is it really necessary to calibrate on an M body? On a film body I suppose it is quite difficult.. thank you in advance
Just use me as a "Please do a comparison between the Leica version and this one" button.
Yes please do a comparison with the Leica equivalent.
Excellent video and review!
I am not a Leica owner or user …..! Can’t afford a Leica and this excellent Summaron ‘minimalist’ lens - as I’m a pensioner! 😂
However, having seen your review of the Summaron lens, I have ordered the Leica’s ‘rip-off’; TT Artisan 28mm f3.5 M-Mount lens but for use on Sony A6000 (10 year old!) via Metabones Leica M - E Mount adapter, but with equivalent focal length of 42mm. Looking forward to using this combination as EDC (Every Day Carry) camera for general ‘street photography’ and landscapes et al near my home location.
By the way …. just discovered your video channel, and excellent photography!
Thanks for your kind words 😀 TTArtisan are really making nice affordable lens. 28mm is my favourite focal length
👍 Cheers Darryl, hope yer keeping safe up there in the North Island.
Hey Yorkie, still the same in Auckland but should get better soon. How is life in the South Island
@@DarrylCarey All good thanks considering everything that's going on at the moment.
Hello Darryl. Great review, TTArtisan just sent me one for reviewing, I will get it in a few days, Thank you for your opinion. Regards
I would like to see a comparison, as I have one on pre-order (shipping in March now, I,ve read) and would like to know what to expect.
Interesting lens! :)
Have a nice and a hopefully less restrictive part of your world!
Things are slowly getting back to normal here in NZ. Hope things are good for you and your family
@@DarrylCareyWe are doing well thanks, my sister will at any day now become a parent!
@@SinaFarhat That's awesome news, you are going to be super busy
Thanks for the review. Great results in my opinion. Would love to see a comparison between this and the Summaron. Wanted to get the 28mm summaron-m when it was first released but never did pull the trigger as I already own the 35mm summaron. This more affordable alternative is very appealing.
Hi Po, I’m very surprised how good this lens is, plus it looks and feels good too. Will do my best to get a video done soon
@@DarrylCarey pulled the trigger and ordered it. Can’t wait to get my hands on it and test it out.
One thing I noticed right away is the short focus throw which is more similar to a normal lens. The summaron focus is so long and awkward and goes all the way to the top of the lens your fingers block the viewfinder.
+1 for the direct comparison.
Gotta love the Film flair, means analogue rendering of the Lens, as expected. Clinical sharpness without character lenses are only for pixel peepers, not photographers with soul.
Is it 6-bit coded to apply the appropriate Leica lens corrections in your M10-P or did you manually set it? Wondering how much is being corrected in-camera. Would we like to see a comparison video? Hell yes!
Hi JK, the lens does not have 6-bit coding. I just sent the profile for the 28mm f/5.6 in camera
Preordered can’t wait!
Nice, let me know when you get the lens and shoot with it, what you think 😉
@@DarrylCarey definitely!
When I first heard of the Leica lens I was hopeful that it would be substantially cheaper than the other M lenses, but it was actually more expensive than the Summarits. That's fine, but although it's an interesting size/spec there are so many more interesting lenses in every system at that price range that I could never justify it.
This looks good, and I also think it's important to support quality newcomers, and especially to support trade with China during a time that there is a propaganda in overdrive from the usual suspects to attack them.
Thanks again
Thanks Fellow Citizen, its a great compact lens for Leica M-Mount cameras. It was my go-to lens (Leica Summaron) for walking around Taiwan when I was not working. Set to f/8 and 2m perfect for street photography
In Chinese communities, some are complaining about lacking the matte black paint on the rear group or coil. Do you encounter any flare or lower contrast in some extreme situations?
Good question, hope it will be answered.
Hi Wei Jin, will check that out when I get a chance
I’m very interest about this Lens. If you could make a video with comparaison between the summaron and this lens, it Will be very interesting
Tiny! I am shopping lenses for my Leica M adapter module for my Ricoh GXR.
Not my prime usage camera - I use mft cameras mostly.
Haven't had a summaron lens before, however it doesn't seems too good for me just by looking at the mtf chart, the edge image quality is just really bad even the max aperture is 5.6... even not as good as some other point and shoot camera's 28mm lens such as minolta tc1... and the price is quite high though. So for me TT artisans' copy version is probably a better choice for its reasonable price, just my personal opinion 🤔
Wonder if there will be a BP version
I hope so, the silver model does standout a bit on a black camera.
Well, it's not a exact copy, Darryl. 1st things first, the optical Lens design is being different, from a Leica Summaron-M 28mm F5.6 Mark I (1955) and Mark II (2016 Design for digital M-Bodies) Version. Both lenses look also somehow differently, if you watch the pictures of each lens closely enough. But similar. And into typical TTArtisan style, now very affordable.version.
How do they obviously make an exact copy from Leica's? Do they pay anything to Leica for patent or get a permission? I'm very curious.
That's a good point, I wonder if Leica has patents on the lens design. I know most lens companies have a patents on the lens elements and how they are arranged.
@@DarrylCarey it's not an 'exact' copy - different number of lens elements and it's slightly different in size and weight.
Hi Darryl, can you please let me know if photo _14A0152.jpg was done on film? If yes please let me know brand. Thanks
All the black and white photos are film and the film I shot was Tri-X. Hope this helps 😀
@@DarrylCarey Thank you so much. I apologize for the late response. I'm on the road right now.
@@marek_nz Nice to hear back from you, hope things are going well in your part of the world
Please compare 🙏🏻
I would love to see what it looks like on the black body
I post a few photos on my community page
Summaron is 34mm thread
Yes you are right, just checked my Summaron 😞.. I had a 37mm B+W ND on it and forgot I was using an step-up ring
Looks good but the bottom line is that it isn’t a Leica Summaron
I am baffled by you not getting the lens hood, it should be included! I doubt it is sold separately. Its a beautiful lens hood for sure. As for the numbers and lettering on the lens, I don't think its laser etched but engraved and filled with paint like leica lenses are.
I too am hoping for it really being engraved rather than laser etched. Bummer about the missing hood, I can’t tell from the TTArtisan pictures whether it is made out of plastic or metal… The Summaron hood is a little gem all by itself.
Ordered mine from Pergear and they say (and show) - "Lens Hood Included: The included lens hood is machined from solid brass to further recall the historical character of the lens."
@@FFVoyager congratulations! From brass? ! Well that is top notch indeed. All this $300, that’s a bargain. Pre orders have gone into February now! I hope this will be something that will have TTartisan make more of the classic lineup!
@@ronitsingh85 well, I'll see when it turns up! 😀
@@FFVoyager nice, I should have asked before but how do you know it’s made from brass-if you don’t mind me asking. Thanks! Cause if the lens hood is made from brass than every bit of lens would be made from brass!
Question: is it stupid to buy this lens? I have already the Elmarit 28 mm (superb lens). But i love this focale.
I have a Leica 28mm Summicron and also the 28mm Summaron and use both of them. I have to say I really enjoy using the 28mm f/5.6 more then the 28mm f2 ... very compact and adds a different look to the photos.
@@DarrylCarey thanks for your response Darryl. I like your videos.
I think I will order one. For a test, the price is more interesting than the summaron 😉
@@fredericpousset7567 Yes it’s a lot more affordable than the Summiron 😉plus it’s a really nice lens to use. Let me know what you think of the lens when you get it
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Do you need to calibrate it ??
Hi S, did not need to calibrate the lens. Worked perfect out of the box ...
@@DarrylCarey perfect 😁👍🏼
How much rf blockage with hood
Sadly I do not know as they never sent me the hood
my friend got this lens last week and I probaly should wait till the year end :(
What does your friend think of the lens?
@@DarrylCarey definitely a different lens compare to the original one, some QC problems reported from the group, but fixed after sending them back, overall a fun lens to use at this price:)
That is some heavy vignette unfortunately… I hoped it would produce a more modern look. If it comes out in black one day, I might get it just for the aesthetics of the lens on the camera. It does look amazing.
Hey Alex, yes sadly it does vignette like the Leica Summaron. I do not know the vignette on the film photos, I think it stands out more on the M10-P photos
@@DarrylCarey They will consider it. Wrote some time before to TTArtisan official, and also Cloe of TTartisan.
I did end up ordering one after all hahah - it should be here in a week or two.
It would be interesting to see a head to head against the Leica Summaron.
Does it feel cheap on the Leica? Is it obvious that it is a knock off?
I have to say it feels the same as the Summaron which was a nice surprise
Such a copy should be compared with the original.
Please do comparison. It would provide more useful informative. Thank you
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Hi Salman
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WOW... that's fast 😜
Don’t care-bought one!
Awesome 🥳
I believe they went too far however who cares as well I believe the patent for the summaron leica ended so they can replicate.
if you want the leica get it I’m assuming both will still have different characters and in that regards no clear winner;
the lens could be a bargain and a great performer for what it is will i buy it honestly no, will i use it to take photos if i given the chance absolutely so for someone who wants a summaron but can’t justify the price which is actually logical specially priced higher than Elmarit buy this one you will get more than what you paid for it and maybe save your money for a well rounded 28 later from voigt or leica.
The TTArtisan lens is not a direct copy.
@@FFVoyager it is a copy physically maybe slight changes but that’s a leica design after all so it is copy and no issue with that, rendering is just modern again they are completely different lenses I believe.
I have lots of Chinese equipment because I really don't have options. There isn't anything intrinsically wrong with Chinese manufacturers although I'll say that I really don't believe their quality control is a high priority in some areas. Having said that, I'll say that I DO have options when it comes to M mount lenses. A Chinese lens will NEVER be attached to my Leica or Voigtlander Bessa cameras. Voightlander and Zeiss are just too good if you can't affort Leica lenses (which I can't afford.) You get what you pay for.
Hi Steve, I think its nice option for people who do not have the budget for a Leica or even a Zeiss lens, plus its nice to try the TTARTISAN 28mm f/5.6 to see if the 28mm and 5.6 aperture work, then you can always buy the Summaron ... I have lost track of the timesI have loaned my Summaron to people who are interested in the lens.
Pity you ☹️
finally the chinese figured out how to replicate a 70yr old lens design...
It's a 100% copy of the summaron, only difference is the filter size, the Leica has 34mm. A shame that it is allowed to bring a copied lens like this on the market. Picked up my Summaron yesterday, I'm happy.........no Chinese wannabe on my camera's.
The optics vary, though. The Summaron consists out of 6 lens elements arranged strictly symmetrically around the aperture in 4 groups. The TTArtisan one is constructed of seven elements in four groups, including two high-refractive index elements and a single low-dispersion element.
I could care less if it’s a Leica lens or not, however, I flat out refuse to purchase products made in China. Support countries that treat all of their citizens well, pay fair wages to workers, and protect the environment.
@@WayneKnight_Rider If only any of the “superpowers” would live up to your standards, the world would be a much, much better place. Even Leica produces the Summaron in Portugal - wonder why.
Why would you buy cheap lenses for Leica cameras? Get a cheaper camera and better lenses
No thank you. I'll stick with my Leica Elmar 28mm f2.8. Sharp. No vignetting. faster. Easier to operate. And almost as small. If I want crappier, dirtier images, I will shoot one of my film SLRs.