Those triangulated valve covers (as I'm sure you realize) are to make the rear end of a formula Atlantic stiffer as the motor is a stressed member. You could try attaching that valve cover to a cross bar/ the shock towers for stiffness. The good thing is that for less vibration (if you ever drive it on the road), they'd be totally removable. Just an idea :)
no, it was a TRD AE101 Silvertop 20v 4A-GEU Group A engine in the Anime. The film is the one that is supposed to be a Formula Atlantic Silvertop 4A-GE, not the anime.
The anime decided to use that one for realism purposes, the engine in ghe anime carries the characteristics of the 16v n2, i dont think the TRD silvertop could rev past 10 but the 16v N2 definitely could, ik you made this comment donkeys years ago but yeah
@@angelojamil23So which engine matches Takumi's engine the most? Formula Atlantic 4AGE N2 or the TRD AE101 Silvertop 20v 4A-GEU Group A engine as shown in the anime?
@@mr.levintouge154 Check this out: ua-cam.com/video/zj1yh6Gc7_0/v-deo.html Takumi's engine was based on this AE86. It made about 250hp at 11 000rpm but they later reduced the limiter to 9 000rpm for reliability
@@ericsson_motorsports They never reduced the limiter Ryosuke asked Takumi to use 9k rpm against the pro driver in the ek9 to in the next race, use all potential In the final stage it was revving past 12 12250 RPM
I would love to have on of these 4age 20v engines in a 2wd hilux with manual trans. It would be so much fun out in the back roads around my house lol. I think the one I'm thinking of is the 7age and think that ones the black top either way from what I have learned bout these engines is they are simple and they do some work. I just love the simplicity so basic and yet capable
Formula Atlantic engine is based on 4AGE. I was expecting super high cams that dont idle well kind of engine but it idles very well. What is the rev limit on this engine and is it dry sumped as well? And what ECU do you use and what programme do you map with?
This is a 16v 4age. All the Formula Atlantic engines were, and in ultimate NA tune they make more power than the 20v is capable of. The 'Fujiwara' car (can't believe I'm referencing a cartoon) was upgraded to a 20v from some later model fwd racer, likely Super Taiyku series or something.
Tbh in the BEGINING of initial d I got confused because their was no Atlantic for the black or silver top 20v till I realize the Atlantic engine was a 16 value, but the orignal owner of my 86 swapped the head and did a lot with the ecu
Rumors say it is a formula atlantic 20v which I already knew that there were only 16v Formula's from TRD. But apparently on the film it was a stock Silvertop. But then people say "developers said this and that" which is hard to believe anyone at this point. Although I know for sure that the engine in the Initial D Live Action wasn't revving up to 11k since the tachometer was working as it was fake and the sound the engine didn't sound to high. All I'm interested on is the Group A TRD Silvertop
ignore the live action, they used a regular 20v in that ae86 and the engine noise they use was keiichi's 86 which at the time had a 20v in it as well. (which he has now gone to a 7AG)
@ericmies824 i know u asked him, but if ur gonna buy i there almost impossible to find since they no longer make them, n if ur going to build it urself it will run u close to 10k if no more however u can build a regular 4age crossing formula atlantic parts over and it wont look like a formula atlantic motor but the specs will be the same n it will sound the same, is also cheaper alot cheaper. im not a mechanic but have friend thats building a 4age with those specs
Ha no they now make them available to everyone just contact hasselgren And they will sell you one It's 18K for a N/A they also sell a turbo version that makes 500hp But the biggest thing is that they make them street legal
@Ejayone974 they all vary. some make more power at different rpm etc. the one that was 11k just happened to make power up to 11k then it would drop out.
Keiichi Tsuchiya, said in his very own Hachi, when had that engine, with an output of 170-180 bhp, he had to rebuid the engine almost after every track session. The same with the 20v.. That's why he swap for the 7A-GE 20v. now, with aroun 200 bhp...
I suppose the idea was to add bore size to gain some push. I think it's his everyday car, not only a track toy. Also, the car is permanently upgraded by TECART'S people, so you can expect anything to be done in the engine...
Toyota (TRD), hasselgren, and loynings. If I am correct, TRD first built all the engines, but it was more cost efficient to contract the engines out. That is where hasselgren and loynings comes in (all TRD specs of course).
nope a 3tc , those old school dual over head cam toyota engines are pricey to build i mean theyre nice but ull prolly spend around 10 grand to make decent power, i know and ive seen countless times how duarable and nearly bullet proof a 3tc is , mi jente los boricuas build them theyre pushrod engines but shure as hell make a helluva lot of power for what theyre are in a sense you can say a built 3tc is the bang for your buck, fully built 3tcs can go upwrds of 750hp keep in mind its a pshrod eng
It's a 1.6l 4AGE 16v Hasselgren Formula Atlantic Race Engine with 12:1 compression that makes 240bhp@8500rpm and 136ft-lb@7600rpm. Redlines close to 10000rpm
The formula atlantic engine's spec was 12.8:1
The standard 4A-GE ranged from 9.4:1 to 11:1
When he turned the engine on "Around The World" started playing in my head
Information!
Those triangulated valve covers (as I'm sure you realize) are to make the rear end of a formula Atlantic stiffer as the motor is a stressed member. You could try attaching that valve cover to a cross bar/ the shock towers for stiffness. The good thing is that for less vibration (if you ever drive it on the road), they'd be totally removable. Just an idea :)
Where do you even go about obtaining such a thing? This is no ordinary engine...hmm
I believe you would have to contact Hasselgren, the people who make them. They cost somewhere around the $20k mark, if I remember correctly.
@@bavarianbanshee honestly dude? That initial D reference flew straight over your head
@@slowdriver6868 In fairness, me from 3 years ago was a massive dumbass. That said, I apologize for missing such a blatantly obvious reference.
@@slowdriver6868 not everyone is a weeb you know...
@@slowdriver6868 I own a 4age and have never seen Intial D, dont plan on it either lmao
Bunta hooked you up?
It's not the sorta thing ya just up'n buy from the store
@@ryosuke.takahashi you deserve a medal lmao. (I’m pcfxer)
Wasn't the engine in the anime a silvertop version tho?
@Hanako Yoo Yes, but the specs mentioned in the anime are more realistic to the 4age 16v atlantic race engine
😂😂😂
no, it was a TRD AE101 Silvertop 20v 4A-GEU Group A engine in the Anime. The film is the one that is supposed to be a Formula Atlantic Silvertop 4A-GE, not the anime.
The anime decided to use that one for realism purposes, the engine in ghe anime carries the characteristics of the 16v n2, i dont think the TRD silvertop could rev past 10 but the 16v N2 definitely could, ik you made this comment donkeys years ago but yeah
@@angelojamil23So which engine matches Takumi's engine the most? Formula Atlantic 4AGE N2 or the TRD AE101 Silvertop 20v 4A-GEU Group A engine as shown in the anime?
@@mr.levintouge154 Check this out: ua-cam.com/video/zj1yh6Gc7_0/v-deo.html
Takumi's engine was based on this AE86. It made about 250hp at 11 000rpm but they later reduced the limiter to 9 000rpm for reliability
@@ericsson_motorsports They never reduced the limiter
Ryosuke asked Takumi to use 9k rpm against the pro driver in the ek9 to in the next race, use all potential
In the final stage it was revving past 12
12250 RPM
@@leandromagnus5985 I'm not talking about Initial D, they reduced it in real life
The fuel pump sound like a military siren lol
9 years and it still makes my mouth water
WHAT IS THIS BEAUTIFUL MUSIC!!!
I would love to have on of these 4age 20v engines in a 2wd hilux with manual trans. It would be so much fun out in the back roads around my house lol. I think the one I'm thinking of is the 7age and think that ones the black top either way from what I have learned bout these engines is they are simple and they do some work. I just love the simplicity so basic and yet capable
well this isnt a 16V and a 7AGE is a homemade engine that u make with any 4AG head and a 7afe block
im late, but garage 4age made that, they shoved a 4age 16v turbo in a hilux
3SGE is a little cheaper and more attainable. Good luck!
youtube recommends this ti me almost a decade later! well good job at least I get more 4A-GE content
4age atlantic pretty rare engine to be obtain.
A kp61 here in philippines that had these engine but with weber carb and double linkage.
first vid i seen in a while with not dislikes very good:)
How can you dislike such a video
Those motor mounts are tight!!! The way they ought to be!
Formula Atlantic engine is based on 4AGE. I was expecting super high cams that dont idle well kind of engine but it idles very well. What is the rev limit on this engine and is it dry sumped as well? And what ECU do you use and what programme do you map with?
very nice work fuelpump!!!
Even the fuel pump sounds monstrous LMAO
The Holy Grail of engines.
Bunta: “Lo quiero, lo guardare para cuando lo necesite”
Una hermosa sinfonía como gira ese motor, hoy 2021 adonde se puede ver contenido de un 4age atlantic
What a beast!
Sounds so good
Bunta has no 22b. Bunta has an STI Type R with the 22b front bumper.
Bunta's Impreza 22B well you did buy the engine
This is a 16v 4age. All the Formula Atlantic engines were, and in ultimate NA tune they make more power than the 20v is capable of. The 'Fujiwara' car (can't believe I'm referencing a cartoon) was upgraded to a 20v from some later model fwd racer, likely Super Taiyku series or something.
Tbh in the BEGINING of initial d I got confused because their was no Atlantic for the black or silver top 20v till I realize the Atlantic engine was a 16 value, but the orignal owner of my 86 swapped the head and did a lot with the ecu
I think im in love, you are one lucky man.
It's like having gold
Beautiful!
Rumors say it is a formula atlantic 20v which I already knew that there were only 16v Formula's from TRD. But apparently on the film it was a stock Silvertop. But then people say "developers said this and that" which is hard to believe anyone at this point. Although I know for sure that the engine in the Initial D Live Action wasn't revving up to 11k since the tachometer was working as it was fake and the sound the engine didn't sound to high. All I'm interested on is the Group A TRD Silvertop
ignore the live action, they used a regular 20v in that ae86 and the engine noise they use was keiichi's 86 which at the time had a 20v in it as well. (which he has now gone to a 7AG)
fuckin hell someone tell me where i can get that carbon airbox
they seem to be ubiquitous in south america but I haven't seen any in Australia, seems to be more k motors here than tc's
@ericmies824 i know u asked him, but if ur gonna buy i there almost impossible to find since they no longer make them, n if ur going to build it urself it will run u close to 10k if no more however u can build a regular 4age crossing formula atlantic parts over and it wont look like a formula atlantic motor but the specs will be the same n it will sound the same, is also cheaper alot cheaper. im not a mechanic but have friend thats building a 4age with those specs
i just fucking came everywhere
Ha no they now make them available to everyone just contact hasselgren And they will sell you one It's 18K for a N/A they also sell a turbo version that makes 500hp But the biggest thing is that they make them street legal
That hot air intake
theyre actually more of a north american engine , theyre known for theyre torqyness since they have a bigger stroke compared to a 2tc
music to my ears
Зверь машина!
"don't stop the music tonight"
@Ejayone974 they all vary. some make more power at different rpm etc. the one that was 11k just happened to make power up to 11k then it would drop out.
There is one for sale here in Ireland..15 grand..
Formula Atlantic FTW!!
WOW!
すげー！
4AGの音じゃない
so 240hp from 1.6? how often would it need to be rebuilt?
+PHJag probably similar to a motorcycle.
DC BigTurbo o read somewhere they have to be driven hard and rebuilt every race or so but I don't know how much merit there is to that rumour.
Keiichi Tsuchiya, said in his very own Hachi, when had that engine, with an output of 170-180 bhp, he had to rebuid the engine almost after every track session. The same with the 20v.. That's why he swap for the 7A-GE 20v. now, with aroun 200 bhp...
+David Grau
but one downside to that 7AG is it only revs to 7,500.
also the 7AG is a 1.8 16V
I suppose the idea was to add bore size to gain some push. I think it's his everyday car, not only a track toy. Also, the car is permanently upgraded by TECART'S people, so you can expect anything to be done in the engine...
Like music to my ears!!!! Love the CF intake, who makes it or custom piece?
Might be the Noby Booth Carbon Intake box, but not sure
best 4age !!
this is the same kind of motor that got transplanted to takumi's 86 after he blew the 1st one in initial D
BTW...beautiful engine bay.
who built that engine? its fantastic
Toyota (TRD), hasselgren, and loynings. If I am correct, TRD first built all the engines, but it was more cost efficient to contract the engines out. That is where hasselgren and loynings comes in (all TRD specs of course).
You should do a new video like this now that its all tuned!
black top is also 20v, with VVT..
where did you steal the N2 from?
i was told by TRD that only members of TRD could acquire this engine and is not for on road purposes?
Never know may have been salvaged from another car may have bought it
where do yo find this engine, or the parts for it , is this a 20v engine? post more videos please .
I believe you can probably obtain the engine or get parts if you contact Hasselgren. It is a 16v engine. I think the engine costs 20k or more
THE ACTUAL ENGINE USED IN AE-86 TRUENO OWNED BY BUNTA FUJIWARA IN INITIAL D SECOND STAGE!!!!
TransmuterAlchemist super late comment but nah m8 this is 16v trd engine
@Karolis Kazlauskas they Animate the engine to be a 20v silvertop, but the specs they mention in the anime describe the 16v engine
@nzae86 lol Sick motor. One day i'll build a corolla from the ground up. the only way to build a corolla/
damn!! 4AGE with streoid..
Why does the top cover look like Bruce Banner went Hulk on it?
Wait can this engine be driven on normal roads?
Probably, but it's not recommended. It's an engine built purley for racing
Initial D music intensifies
Did you get it from Hasselgren? Looks like it from the valve cover...
@xstr33tr4cerx ,1st gen? you mean its a bigport or a.k.a redtop? if possible more videos. peace out .
This is the famous 11 000 rpm engine??
nope a 3tc , those old school dual over head cam toyota engines are pricey to build i mean theyre nice but ull prolly spend around 10 grand to make decent power, i know and ive seen countless times how duarable and nearly bullet proof a 3tc is , mi jente los boricuas build them theyre pushrod engines but shure as hell make a helluva lot of power for what theyre are in a sense you can say a built 3tc is the bang for your buck, fully built 3tcs can go upwrds of 750hp keep in mind its a pshrod eng
wow
so is the "blacktop" the 20v? im kinda new to these toyo engines
Parts list?
Is it me or the valve cover looks bent in the middle, sort of concave?
Oh..My...God......
wait, wait, wait. do you mean two arms and two legs? or two arms and two sets of legs? meaning two arms and four legs?!?!
repower it with a subaru ej 20 and enjoy the boker power
What kind of compression do these motors run? i'm sorta a pushrod v8 guy so thats why i'm asking.
This specific one or do they come factory built with 12.8:1 ?
ah ok thanks so redtops 16v, silvertops 20v, whats blacktop?
Sound like honda cbr 1000
Just imagine a turbo on that thing
Would ruin the sound
@@RayanM50B25 yes but on that engine check out the 4a-ge hilux
yamaha made?
A 3GTE?
4 cylinders of pure, normally aspirated fury >:D
where can we buy this motor ?
I think you can buy it through contacting Hasselgren
How did you get thattttt? wtfffff?
No ITB?
what the n2 stands for?
prime starter?
That's not the only downside, not by far. LOL
Anyone know the specs of that thing
It's a 1.6l 4AGE 16v Hasselgren Formula Atlantic Race Engine with 12:1 compression that makes 240bhp@8500rpm and 136ft-lb@7600rpm. Redlines close to 10000rpm
hay man stop haten on initial d
want
Can i get the details about this setup anyone? Thx i know its 4age itb etc but the head is tripping me out thx.
Are those street legal ? because if their not I think that all lambos shouldn’t be street legal
If you agree leave a response
i think i just came.....................
if they turboed this, i think it would have 2000hp
must of cost an arm and a leg
What the fuck. Whered you get that?
@nzae86 and a third leg
how high does it rev?
If in this video the engine was real formula atlantic then you can rev it up around 15 thousend rpm maybe 20. I dont know the specs so i only guess.
Sam ß thats impossible dude
No it isn't ...
The engineers can do it :) (and some fanatic's )
Sam ß did some research and found out that its 200 hp at 10k rpm, 15k is way to much dude
Okay you win . But i dont change my opinion .
0:15 0.0
@nzae86 And ur soul ;)
too much money for 240hp id rather build a 3tc
12.8:1
are you an islander or somthing
you misspelled "boxer". instead, you spelled "boker" which is Indonesian slang for "taking a shit".
Ian ha
boker is morning in hebrew
Bok is shit in turkish lol