Kiive Audio has emerged in the past two years to be at the absolute TOP of realistically useful and damn fine sounding technology. I have been REALLY surprised. ..their new one, what’s it called, FUSE? Absolutely insane. Not a “knock you on your ass” device, but so INCREDIBLY good sounding and USEFUL. The same goes for this piece here. …just when you thought you’d seen it all… nope! And their XTComp/Xtressor, well… I don’t use that very often, I only use it when I’m recording or mixing audio. 😆😆
That just might be one of the best drum comps I’ve ever heard, incredible! I haven’t heard of this so thank you very kindly. I’m definitely getting this,now!
I have the original unit (bought new in 1977) and the Complexx does not work quite the same way. The interaction between the Stereo input level and individual channel level is most odd. These compressors need to first be set up so with the input gain and limiter in so that the peak limiter is just triggering to set the gain level and all the thresholds through the unit correctly, the limiter can then be switched off if not needed. I'm sure you know this as you have one, but others might find this a useful clue. Not doing this might account for the level oddity with the expander/gate? Complexx doesn't quite sound like my Compex hardware, but it's quick to get a good result, and the added controls are very useful and sadly lacking in the hardware. I don't know why the developers had to rearrange the controls on the panel, makes no sense to me when compared with the original. All that said, I will buy it, it has features that the Boz/Bendeth Mk 2 version I also have lacks and is a useful tool in my toolbox when I don't want the US 1176 sound but something crunchier and more organic...
Which one is better in your OPINION the Kiive Xtressor or this compressor? I might add the Xtressor is probably my favourite comp. The 2nd one would be Shadow Hills Mastering Comp Red version (bx) from plugin alliance 👌🏼
Yes, it has the classic "Compex" hard-knee sound. In this version I don't have to look at David Bendeth's name, either! More "color" options on this too.
I wonder if it will be included with Plugin Alliance's Mega Bundle. A couple of other Kiive plugins have been made available on there. I really like their Xtressor (a Distressor emulation). BTW, I've heard people say the name of this company about five different ways.
It says on their site " It allows compression and expansion simultaneously " . So what is meant by that? Doesn't this in a nutshell almost equal "lots of compression" ? I feel like I hear more and more claims that for me land in the "of semantic value mostly" drawer. To your question , I have so many good compressors by now that a developer has to present something new to the table in order to justify the price. I mean 99 intro is not exactly cheap and I don't hear something that I cant already achieve-duplicate with more than one of my compressors so for now its a pass for me
Hey! Totally understand the confusion there! A big use for the expander in this case is that it allows you to cut back on a lot of undesirables before compressing/limiting! One great use for it is a snare or kick drum where you would benefit from cutting back on the bleed before slamming it hard enough to get the snap you want! :)
@@kiiveaudio In the scenario you describe I would simply use a good gate plugin to cut the bleed before I compress which would essentially result In around the same thing. I am not talking bad about your plugin please don't take it the wrong way. It's just that I have so many of "the best plugins" that I have become a bit spoiled+overcooked. I am not saying that it is a bad plugin. I was simply replying to the question of the OP. Hope you understand. Cheers!
@@whitenoisestudio I hear ya. Well as I said. For now , No, but in the future who knows. I sometimes buy audio tools when I get home drunk. Even ones I don't need. Oh! and of course thank you for your constant output! Cheers man
I hope plugins will not release through plugin alliance. Because sound is changed. Plugin alliance likes bright and too vivid sound. But it make me feel like plastic..
Pff, you know. At first they were:”it’s like key-eve”, was even stated in press releases. but now they say it should be like “hive”. So basically pronounce it however you feel ;-)
Will you get this KIIVE plugin ?
I already have both the original item and the David Bendeth Boz plugins... so maybe!
@@jrgroberts how does the Boz Digital compare to the hardware?
@@stupidusername38 better!
So many options nowadays, but it worth trying.
WOW! Thank God that midi instruments don't really need all that stuff.
Kiive Audio has emerged in the past two years to be at the absolute TOP of realistically useful and damn fine sounding technology. I have been REALLY surprised. ..their new one, what’s it called, FUSE? Absolutely insane. Not a “knock you on your ass” device, but so INCREDIBLY good sounding and USEFUL. The same goes for this piece here. …just when you thought you’d seen it all… nope!
And their XTComp/Xtressor, well… I don’t use that very often, I only use it when I’m recording or mixing audio. 😆😆
That just might be one of the best drum comps I’ve ever heard, incredible! I haven’t heard of this so thank you very kindly. I’m definitely getting this,now!
I agree. Sounds so good.
Awesome plugin
It really is!
Really nice review, having what felt like exactly the right duration. Thanks.
They make some fabulous emulations, they really do. Will compare this to the Bendeth Boz one
yeah Kiive is one of the great ones in the plugin field these days.
I have the original unit (bought new in 1977) and the Complexx does not work quite the same way. The interaction between the Stereo input level and individual channel level is most odd. These compressors need to first be set up so with the input gain and limiter in so that the peak limiter is just triggering to set the gain level and all the thresholds through the unit correctly, the limiter can then be switched off if not needed. I'm sure you know this as you have one, but others might find this a useful clue. Not doing this might account for the level oddity with the expander/gate? Complexx doesn't quite sound like my Compex hardware, but it's quick to get a good result, and the added controls are very useful and sadly lacking in the hardware. I don't know why the developers had to rearrange the controls on the panel, makes no sense to me when compared with the original. All that said, I will buy it, it has features that the Boz/Bendeth Mk 2 version I also have lacks and is a useful tool in my toolbox when I don't want the US 1176 sound but something crunchier and more organic...
That gain stage technique for analog styled compressor limiter plugins might just be my new must do. Thanks 🙏🏾
Thanks man.. Always good content from you!
I appreciate that!
Which one is better in your OPINION the Kiive Xtressor or this compressor? I might add the Xtressor is probably my favourite comp. The 2nd one would be Shadow Hills Mastering Comp Red version (bx) from plugin alliance 👌🏼
Yes, it has the classic "Compex" hard-knee sound. In this version I don't have to look at David Bendeth's name, either!
More "color" options on this too.
Sound nice...have to compare it to the BOZ
I wonder if it will be included with Plugin Alliance's Mega Bundle. A couple of other Kiive plugins have been made available on there. I really like their Xtressor (a Distressor emulation).
BTW, I've heard people say the name of this company about five different ways.
Re: pronunciation, I heard it rhymes with "hive" like a beehive. That was from an interview with the guy who founded it. Take that as you will
That same guy told me at the the beginning of their journey it was pronounced as kay-eve. So yeah.
@@whitenoisestudio no its pronounced like KIV, its Hebrew like tel aviv.
Hi Rome! We have no plans of porting our future plugins to Plugin Alliance!
@@kiiveaudio cool, even cheaper
I did get an email for early access...but will I really get it...hmmm doubt it
Yeah that mail came ar a few hours ago.
Wonder how it sounds compared to the Boz digital labs Version called +10db.. I have been using that one and I love it
I think only other company to model this compressor is Boz Digital
Indeed, going to compare them :). The price is a bit steep though 99 USD....
Also- Tim Petherick with his “Complex” Nebula Library. Sounds mighty GOOOD. Has the hardware “thing”
@@martijnvandongen and sknote did before another one and I tried but I couldn't use it
It says on their site " It allows compression and expansion simultaneously " . So what is meant by that? Doesn't this
in a nutshell almost equal "lots of compression" ?
I feel like I hear more and more claims that for me land in the "of semantic value mostly" drawer.
To your question , I have so many good compressors by now that a developer has to present something new to the table in order to justify
the price. I mean 99 intro is not exactly cheap and I don't hear something that I cant already achieve-duplicate with more than one of my compressors
so for now its a pass for me
Depends how you dial it in right. It quite easy to increase transietn while also compressing the tail more with this setup.
Hey! Totally understand the confusion there! A big use for the expander in this case is that it allows you to cut back on a lot of undesirables before compressing/limiting! One great use for it is a snare or kick drum where you would benefit from cutting back on the bleed before slamming it hard enough to get the snap you want! :)
@@kiiveaudio In the scenario you describe I would simply use a good gate plugin to cut the bleed before I compress which would essentially result In around the same thing. I am not talking bad about your plugin please don't take it the wrong way. It's just that I have so many of "the best plugins" that I have become a bit spoiled+overcooked. I am not saying that it is a bad plugin. I was simply replying to the question of the OP. Hope you understand.
Cheers!
@@whitenoisestudio I hear ya.
Well as I said. For now , No, but in the future who knows. I sometimes buy audio tools when I get home drunk. Even ones I don't need.
Oh! and of course thank you for your constant output!
Cheers man
Nice review. Is the limiter of the brick wall type?
I’ve got the Nebula Compex plugin live sampled from the same hardware unit you have
This Plugin is pretty close to be digital
Hopefully this will come to Plugin alliance
At this time, we have no plans of taking any of our new releases over to PA.
@@kiiveaudio copy that! Best of luck with the release guys. Demo sounded Great 👍
why didn't they release it under Plugin Alliance. :(
I’m glad it didnt
I hope plugins will not release through plugin alliance. Because sound is changed. Plugin alliance likes bright and too vivid sound. But it make me feel like plastic..
@@whitenoisestudio Plugin Alliance SUCKS at updating their plugins... glad this will not be released with them
@@whitenoisestudiohow so?
That’s how Kiive is pronounced?! lol 😅
Pff, you know. At first they were:”it’s like key-eve”, was even stated in press releases. but now they say it should be like “hive”. So basically pronounce it however you feel ;-)
boz did it first
ADR did it first.
🤔@@whitenoisestudio
^^
Could you help me with mix im stuck with for 3 years? Please....i need closure..i can't find your email
Pleasd use it as a studio home example, im trying to make a rock pop song alone, but thats so hard.
My mail is in the about section m8.