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May I suggest reacting to TO HELL AND BACK THE AUDIE MURPHY STORY. Audie was the most decorated American soldier of WW2 after the war he became a Hollywood actor making loads of westerns but he also got the part of himself in TO HELL AND BACK. So it's actually Audie Murphy playing Audie Murphy and that's why it's my favourite war movie 👍
Critics panned this movie when it came out, criticizing for its “cheap and cheesy” dialogue. The real Hal Moore came forward and publicly apologized that his men lacked creativity and originality during their final moments. That got the critics to shut up.
And the truth is that Henry Herrick said exactly those words.... I'm glad I could die for my country. And Carl Palmer one day before his 40th birthday who prophesized his death at X_Ray to Galen Bungham....tell my wife I love her. Hal Moore's response was perfect. War is delightful to those who have no experience of it
@@adamr6794 True. Only people who would consider war exciting are people not experienced it. Only one's who seek to use war to advance their benefit are people who do not risk themselves and send others to die for their ambition.
I am a 74 year old Vietnam vet and Army retiree. This film always hits me hard. I ask you to please see a film that Gibson directed (but did not star in), Hacksaw Ridge. It is the story of Desmond Doss, a pacifist who served with distinction as a medical corpsman during World War II. Like this film, it is a true story of incredible heroism and is every bit as outstanding as this film.
My Uncle and father-in-law were Vietnam vets... thank you for your service. You deserve better than how our country treated veterans during that time. You are truly the heroes!
"It is the story of Desmond Doss" No, its the ridiculous retelling of Desmond Doss full of typical Mel Gibson garbage. The exact garbage that Doss feared would be put into any movie made about him which is why he refused to cooperate with any director while he was alive. He somehow managed to exaggerate all of the events that happened around Doss, while also underplaying and excluding many of his very real feats. Its a fucking insulting movie if you have done even a bit of reading into the actual battle or the man himself. Portraying Doss as a hated greenhorn at that point in the war is beyond fucking stupid, he was already a veteran of several battles and well respected by the men he served with by that point. And that is only the tip of the iceberg for the stupidity of that movie.
@Nyx_2142 wouldn't say it's an "insulting" movie. Yes by the time of the Maeda (Hacksaw Ridge) in 1945, Doss had already seen action in Guam and Phillipines during 1944, which he was awarded for. But he did go through suspicion, rejection and criticism for his beliefs at the beginning of his military career. So for me, I feel that Mel Gibson is blending two important aspects of Doss's life story into one film, with a little creative lisence in terms chronology. The biggest exaggeration of the film though is the size of the cliff - the Maeda was certainly not as high as the movie attempts to portray it, but again I feel like it was Gibson's way of emphasising Dos's efforts and the scale of the task his unit had to undertake. Hacksaw Ridge is by no means a perfect war movie, and has taken creative licence towards some of the factual aspects, but it's by no means an "insulting" movie.
After the war General Moore worked on cleaning up the drug abuse problem and racial strife that were prevalent at the time in the 7th Division. His plan established Officer's Leadership Schools for company-grade officers and an NCO Leadership School for staff sergeants and below as well as issuing an "Equal Opportunity Policy". He backed up the policy with the promise to punish those leaders who discriminated based on race, ethnicity or creed. As a part of the reformation of division morale, he established several different athletic programs, including football, basketball, and boxing.
The 7th was his Regiment. The Airborne Division above him was the 101st, of Band of Brothers fame. They fly in helicopters to this day, while the 82nd Airborne continues to deploy via parachutes.
@@Ryan_Christopher If I'm not mistaken, 1-7CAV fell under 1st Cav (Airmobile), not the 101ABN (AAST). the 101ABN cav unit was Troop D, 3d Sqdn, 5th Cav
@@Ryan_Christopher After the war, he transferred to the 7th ID, with which he had previously served. Notice that he wears a 7th ID patch on his right shoulder throughout the movie. At the beginning of the movie he has 11th Abn on his left shoulder, then during training they all are wearing 2nd ID. During Vietnam, both 101st Abn _AND_ 1st Air Cav were Air Assault.
As a 39 yr old OIF injured/Medically retired 82nd/XVIII Airborne Army Ranger. I appreciate you covering this. I doubt the channel would ever do ‘Band of Brothers’ but it’s amazing and you should watch it on your own time. 🫡
I was lucky enough to be an extra in this film! My Buddy was in the California national guard, and I was active duty army at the time. He told me about the shoot, and I joined the unit that played 1-7 Cav in Fort Hunter-Liggett. Two years later, I participated in the invasion of Iraq. Full circle, 25 years and a bunch of deployments in the army later, I’m a military technical advisor in Hollywood and I’ve worked on some amazing films. This film was truly a special project to work on. Especially since I’ve done so much training at Fort Hunter-Liggett since then. I’m glad you viewed this film. They do a much better job showing the home front and the contrast with the battlefield than most other films.
I was an extra on that too! Only did the "Garry Owen" scene where they ran down the hill to the choppers. Was supposed to be in the "lost platoon", but some unit from Ft. Lewis was down doing training, so they got to do that. You were active down there.... Camp Bob?
When Joe is doing the narration at the beginning about the Ia Drang Valley and he says the North Vietnamese soldiers that "died by our hands", he is being literal. He really did put down his camera and grabbed a rifle to defend the wounded soldiers in the medical area when the NVA overran the position. Joe and Hal Moore were life-long friends after the battle.
They also went back to the site of battle after the war and met face to face with the enemy commander. True warriors that fought for their country without hating the opposition
He and his wife, Julia, were instrumental in putting together a proper and official notification system for military casualties. Especially his wife, for obvious reasons. Others have elaborated on what Hal Moore himself did for his troops. Fort Moore, Home of the Infantry, has a name that it can wear with pride.
A couple years ago, I met with one of the survivors of the "Lost Platoon". Sgt. Savage wasn't the highest-ranking NCO left, he took command because he was the closest to the radio. The gentleman talked about how the Load Bearing Equipment was set up with dual canteens on their back sides. This meant that when they tried to get a drink later in the night, all their canteens were empty due to being hit by bullets. If a soldier raised above the ground by more than 10-12 inches, they were hit by rounds. The survivors of the Lost Platoon were placed on the line as reinforcements. Colonel Moore thought he was placing them in a quiet section of the line, but of course it was the section the enemy attacked right away. It was a constant chess game of move and react. Per the survivor, the only reason they made it through was Colonel Moore, Snake and the helicopters flying in and out, the officers and NCOS, their training, along with artillery and air to ground attacks by planes and helicopters.
If I remember correctly Snakeshit and his guys were crash landing back at base left right and center. Crandall himself had something like 14 crash landings in this engagement
Hal and Julie Moore were so influential to the development of the Army's family support structure that they renamed Fort Benning in Georgia in their honor. Fort Moore is the home of the infantry for the U.S. Army
Hal Moore was pure infantry as well, graduated near the bottom of his West Point class but managed to get an infantry posting and threw himself into it. Whatever people think about renaming stuff, that is one I think we can all get behind.
This movie is so thought provoking. My dad is a Vietnam vet, but he never talked about anything from the war when I was growing up. Even when we watched other war movies, he never flinched. He had this almost haunted look to his eyes sometimes, but he never flinched. However, while watching this one, he broke down and cried like a baby. Afterwards, he said that fighting in the war was much worse than portrayed, but that it was closer to realism than any of the other movies had come so far. I can't even imagine silently carrying all that trauma around for decades without complaint for the sake of his wife and kids. My old man is one of the toughest men I've ever known! I have nothing but respect for the men of our military.
The same can be said of the military of every single nation in the entirety of history. War is horrendous no matter which side you're on. Everyone suffers ... except the fat cat politicians and leaders who get rich off it.
FYI, the real cornel Moore was actually heavily involved in the production to get the best accurate depiction of the war from his part so mell Gibson could be as accurate as possible playing him
@@adambydand1214 I'm referring to how they said his name in an interview talking about the movie and how heavily he was involved in making it accurate as possible
I ADORE the shot of Mel Gibson marching off the first time. We've seen him as a father figure; he puts that helmet on and he's a Soldier. Excellent visual storytelling. Also, they toned down how bad Jimmy Nakayama was burnt; in an interview Galloway explained that when he picked him up, he could feel his ankle bones crumbling.
The scene with the cab driver is the one that hurts the most everytime i watch this movie. Wearing the army jacket you can assume he is a veteran too. He knows what he has. That poor guy
The person in the cover of Life magazine and on the cover of this book became a VP of Cantor Fitzgerald in NYC. He lost his life at the World Trade Center on 9/11 after telling all his employees to leave, and then he went around the rest of the offices to tell them to leave. He was still in the building when it collapsed.
Army Lt. Jimmy Nakayama did not survive his injuries. He died two days later from his wounds, never being able to see his newly born child in this world.
@@matthewperry9183 Not really it wasn't uncommon at the beginning of Vietnam. For the higher brass. For instance the Pilot of the F100 that pulled off on the Attack run that took out the PVT was LtCol Harold Comstock a 2xFighter Ace from WWII who also fought in Vietnam.
Guys, my father participated in this battle. He came in the second wave of choppers. He ended up doing a tour and a half due to clerical errors. Came home with a purple heart and several other medals, including a commendation for the most jumps in his unit. And i couldn't get him to watch this movie.
But he already did..Bless him.🫡🇺🇸 My Dad only said he was in the Airborne. It was only 40 years later, a vet looked at his old photo as said "damn, that's a Master Parachutist Badge"..
My uncle is a Vietnam veteran. Was under Moore and in that conflict. He didn't speak much about it other than Lt. Gen Moore a great leader and trained us well.
One of the most powerful movies ever. The ending floors me. Mel looking over the horizon seeing hundreds of other hell holes they'd fight for like they just did. Must been awfully sobering and scary.
You have to see the 2 movies directed by Clint Eastwood about the battle of Iwo Jima: Flag Of Our Fathers and Letters From Iwo Jima, movies that Clint filmed one after the other, both came out in 2006, Flag Of Our Fathers narrates the US side of the conflict and Letters From Iwo Jima shows the Japanese side, that last movie I think is the best of the two, and was nominated for awards.
Alot of moments and scenes are tear jerkers, but that one line when Gibson said, "I dont know if I'll forgive myself....that my men died, and I didn't." Still hits hard
So the guy who was on the radio talking to the aircraft is a specialist who's essentially a combination Forward Observer and Air Traffic Controller. Its one of the most demanding positions in the military, as you're required to both provide targeting information, making sure all the bombs are hitting the appropriate targets, AND directing and coordinating the aircraft so that they don't run into each other or anything like that. I was a Forward Observer when I was in the military and received some EXTREMELY light cross training on the subject, and its absolutely insane the amount of mental effort required to juggle all those moving pieces. Hes coordinating the planes, making sure they're not running into artillery, providing bombing target information, while under extremely heavy fire, as well as being fully aware that his performance could be directly responsible for the outcome of the entire battle. Absolutely legendary men, and an absolutely legendary performance in this particular battle.
1:15:39 one of the many reasons this war was so bloody is that American would take a hill or region from the NVA then “clean it up” then they would literally leave the hill/region they just captured to go fight for another and the NVA would just go back after the Americans left and refortify it and rinse and repeat. Theres horror stories of soldiers saying the fought to take a hill and months later would have to do it again. Was just a meat grinder.
French Indo China was part of the French colonial empire that sought independence after WW II. The French were soundly defeated in 1954 at the battle of Dien Bien Phu (presumably depicted in the opening scenes of the movie). Communism was expanding rapidly throughout the world after WW II and the US sought to stop its progress. Known as the "domino effect" the US feared the takeover of countries one by one in Asia. After the defeat in 1954 France pulled out of the region. President Eisenhower, concerned about Viet Nam's takeover, sent a small core of military advisors to assist in the fight for dominance. This began the US involvement in the country which did not end until 1974 and 58,000 fatal casualties.
The opening scene with the French Mobile Group 100 happened at the Mang Yang Pass between Pleiku and An Khe and not at Dien Bien Phu. The French lost around 2000 men and all were buried at the top of the pass with all the graves facing France. I've been there.
Intrestingly: Ho Chi Minh first sought U.S. help to gain Vietnamese independence against France. U.S. didn't want to oppose France and DeGaulle, so they rejected. Soviet Union was willing to give weapons and training as long Ho Chi Minh would accept communism... Rest is history...
@@thejamppa More precisely, the US wanted the French to join NATO so didn't oppose DeGaulle's insistence on reclaiming its former colonies, though they didn't publicly agree or approve of that. That left Ho Chi Min, who fought with the Americans against the Japanese, only one place to go for help.
Trumpets, how you send messages before radios. The emblem on Col. Moore's helmet are leaves, oak leaves. The aircraft were evolving at a high rate. The prop driven plane was the forerunner of the A10 Warthog as far as protecting ground troops. This was on TV every night. We waited for the news to see what happened that day. You are correct, information was now being delivered like never before.
When this movie came a co-worker who was in Nam when this movie was set said it was the most accurate war movie to what actually happened over there at that time.
In Ken Burns documentary on the war, an elderly Joe Galloway is seen on camera describing PFC Nakayama’s burns and how is skin literally sloughed off his bones after the friendly fire napalm strike. It really happened. Absolutely haunting stuff.
So many young men came back messed up...my son's father was a Vietnam veteran, and he had flashbacks up to the day he died in 1985. It was on that day he finally found peace.
@@adamr6794 we weren't married, so I can't call him my husband, but he is still my son's father. Too old to use the term "baby daddy" authentically, lol.
The reason there is so much focus on Snake and Too Tall is that both pilots volunteered to go in over and over again, even after X-Ray was closed and other crews were grounded. Both of them knew the dangers and yet went anyways. Without their contributions, the 7th would have probably ran out of supplies, men wouldn’t have received fast treatment, and the entire operation would have ended far differently. For their actions both pilots were awarded the Medal of Honor. I’ve seen an interview with the real reporter, Joseph Galloway, and the scene where the young soldier, Pfc. Jimmy Nakayama, actually happened in the way depicted…. Down to the meat being pulled from the bones when he attempted to assist. In the interview with Joseph, you can see that 1,000 yard stare as tears came down. He talked about all of the faces that were burnt into his mind from that horrific battle and you could tell that he carried that with him until he died in 2021. Jimmy Nakayama did survive initially, but would die a few days later while receiving care for his wounds. Joseph Galloway would become the only civilian to be awarded the Bronze Star during the war. Additional Sgt Savage would receive the Distinguished Service Cross (the second highest distinction below the Medal of Honor) for his actions on the battlefield. John Lance "Jack" Geoghegan would be posthumously awarded the Silver Star, Bronze Star, Purple Heart, and the Air Medal. He would die from the wounds sustained trying to save the man who he assisted in the movie by looking at his foot, Specialist Godbolt. Their names are next to each other on the Vietnam Wall Memorial.
This movie and saving private Ryan should be shown in every school so kids can learn what what family an compassion means and also what it took for our freedom.
So, my dad was a Force Recon Marine from 1959-1970. He did 4 combat tours in Vietnam: '65, '66, '68, & '69. He was attached to MACV-SOG, and almost all of his unit's records were lost in a fire at the records warehouse in the 1970s. I didn't learn must about his service until after he died in '87 a couple months after I turned 11. Then I was suddenly trying to drink from a fire hose of information. Long story short, my old man was practically Captain America. He was also a hardcore student of military history, and he described Col. Moore to me as "Just about as good a combat tactician as there was in the war." My dad always talked about how incredibly tough, smart, and valiant the NVA and VC soldiers were.
Great reaction. My dad served in Vietnam. A war that was hated. Think about it, WW1 They came back as celebrated heros, WW2 The American troops really came back as heros. The Korean war. They were celebrated. But the Vietnam war. Which was not a win. And our soldiers returned home as villians, being spit on and called baby killers. There was no parade or celebration for them. Just PTSD, missing limbs and no real help returning back to civilian life. Very sad. The Vietnam war will always be near and dear to me.
Bugles have been used for battlefield communication for centuries. Different "tunes" meant different things. Charge Advance Retreat et cetera Bugle calls were even used on military bases and outposts. For instance, "Tattoo" was played at night and was originally played to let the bartenders in the clubs on base know to "turn the taps to" {off} and stop serving for the night. "Taps to" became "Tattoo".
Joe Galloway had honestly as important of a role in this battle as any of the other soldiers. We need a civilian’s perspective on the battlefield to show the people back home why war is never, NEVER the answer.
In some cases war is the only answer however Vietnam was not one of those cases. It was a purely civil war caused by divisions within after the Vietnamese people had successfully rebelled against their French colonial masters exploited by both the Chinese communist government and the American government to fight a "low cost" proxy war. The south Vietnamese were largely controlled by the corrupt former burocrats who worked for the French while the NVA was a true grass roots force supplied and trained by Chinese advisors. Had it not been for the Chinese involvement and Americas obsession with fighting communism America could well have found itself supporting the other side. That's what the author hinted at when he said it was a war the Americans never understood. America and the west in general turned a blind eye to far too many of their " allies" crimes and brutality in order to oppose the red menace.
Unfortunately unless you are prepared to allow aggressors to take your land and rule over you, you have to defend yourself. Wars have been fought since the beginning of human history, this is how the countries we have now were formed. We've had relative peace in the West since the devastation of WWII, but now malevolent forces are working to destabilise that peace.
I remember the war. I was young, but we had bracelets that had the number of POWs and we wrote letters to their families at school. I work for a vet who was a nurse (male) in Vietnam. This is one of his favorite movies. He worked on the planes that flew in and dead dropped to pick up injured. They picked everyone alive up, regardless of what side they were on, including civilians. There were at least 20 minutes, often much longer, from any doctors and they held those boys together as best they could. He lives with the side effects of the Agent Orange and suffers with what they call Sundowners Syndrome. I have so much respect for this man. My father was a Korean war veteran but rarely talked about it. So much respect for all of our troops. And yes, regardless of "sides" they are all someone's son, daughter, father, mother, brother, sister. If only the leaders would have a duel with each other and keep their citizens out of it. I bet there would be much less war. Also, I know Mel Gibson can be a hot button for people, myself included, but he is an amazing actor and always comes through in these kind of roles. Enjoyed your disscussion, ✌💖😀
My ex husband deployed 3 times to iraq at the height of the war the last thing i would say was " No medals, No flags" meaning dont do anything crazy to get medals cause back then you got those for really bad shit and of course no flag meaning i didn't want to be given a flag over his grave. Now thats what i say to my son. I spent years volunteering with Army wife organizations that Mrs. Moore helped found.
The first part of this was filmed in Fort Benning Ga. It was renamed after Gen Moore and is now called Fort Moore. The 2nd half was filmed at Hunter-Leggatt Ca.
Yall have earned a lifelong fan in me. Mad respect for your vulnerability in showing your emotions to the world. Secondly when yall said regardless of your dislike of Gibson, you respect his performance in this film. Takes a big man to be able to give kudos to someone they don’t agree with on many things 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
My Father was there and received the Bronze Star with SGM Plumley and many others in this and the subsequent battles. He never spoke of it. I found the original Bronze Star orders and a Thanksgiving Day menu that took place just 2+ weeks later in An Khe. I was one of those little kids in p.j.s at Fort Benning in 1965. This movie touched me personally more than any movie I've ever seen and i pieced it together while seeing it at the movie theater. I miss my Pops. He's been gone since 1988 despite surviving WW2, Korea and Vietnam. Yet again, he never said a word.
That part where the little girls asks her dad what a war is, gets me all the time. I’m a disabled veteran and my 6 year old daughter asks me all the time why I have the problems that I do and it’s hard to explain how or why I’m not like all her friends dad. She’ll understand when she’s older but for now, it’s hard to explain to her.
Joe Galloway and Hal Moore didn't have to do a lot of consultation for the book. They lived it. Joe was an ambassador and spokesman for Vietnam vets. He went home 3 years ago next month (August 18, 2021). Rest in peace. RVN '69.
My father's uncle fought in Vietnam as a master gunnery Sargent, and that scene with them pissing on the mortars actually happened. They were being fired so often they were afraid the gredaes would explode inside the mortar it got so hot. there was even a time in his foxhole that he ran out of grenades and had to take off his boot and Chuck it at a man rushing him. It threw him off just enough for another soldier to bayonet him, quite literally saving his life. Wars fought back then were super intense. Nothing like how we fight them now.
The final charge did not happen, Another battalion from 7th Calvary was helicoptered in an they marched in to relieve them. Unfortunately they were ambushed at their LZ (LZ Albany) and they took more KIA than Moore’s battalion. We started the body count strategy and ten years later we lost the war
Considering some of the historical reactions that have been on this channel, I thank you John and you Andrew for do proper service to a movie such as this. the respect you showed the men, while still talking and enjoying the movie aspects of it, is how a true reaction should be, not one of jokes and laughter and satire, but one of respect and commendation. This is one of the best reactions this channel has ever done, and when it comes to historical movies, I hope and beg that it is you two for the majority of historical reactions, for you two are 100% pure class.
Great movie 4 stars. When the officers leave in the middle of the night. And when the wounded soldiers return to the states and no one greets them in the airport, won’t ever not hit me hard.
3:07 not to insult anyone, but Vietnam is a big deal in U.S. history and I guess they teached you a lot about it at school. Do they really ignore the circumstances that lead to the Vietnam War? Like the fact that part of the world was a French colony?
Yes. In fact in public schooling Vietnam is barely discussed. American pride doesn't let us talk about our losses. American education is a joke. Children are being taught that natives GAVE us their land and completely cut out trail of tears. The American school system is a cattle system just training them to be a lackey for the workforce. Teaching independent thinking isn't on the top of the list
To be honest yes. A lot of the wars we were involved in post ww2 get completely divorced from reality when taught in our classrooms. They way I was taught was that after world War 2,Russia and America fought a proxy war across the world and would respectively back any country that declared itself either communist or democratic. This meant that when communist aligned north Vietnam attacked south Vietnam America had to go and stop communist aggression and create a safe area for democracy to take hold in the region. Now obviously that's nonsense but I was 25 when I first saw this movie and that's exactly when I found out that Vietnam had been colonized by the French.
One of the greatest war movies ever if you ask me. If you like the movie. Then i recommend Ken Burns documentary series about the Vietnam war, we get to hear from Hal Moore and from Joe Galloway telling the real story. (He breaks down in tears talking about the trooper with the napalm burn)
I watched this in the theater before i left for basic in 2002. Not only was it the saddest story ever, it gave me a sense of pride to join this caliber of men, led by courage and a strong sense of duty
I spent my entire adult life in the military. I have been in combat, I have seen the worst of people....but also the best. War is Hell. The war at home is the unimaginable hell. This film does an amazing job letting you FEEL both. From both sides of a conflict.
You mentioned Colonel Moore leading from the battlefield while the Vietnamese Commander was leading from his headquarters in the cave. The difference is Moore is a Battalion Commander and is expected to be with his men, while the other is a Division Commander who looks at the big picture and directs his Battalion and Regimental Commanders where to fight
I did 2 tours in Iraq in the infantry, in 2003/2004. This was the movie that we watched to motivate us before we left. To answer a couple questions, white phosphorus (willy peat) is usually used to melt equipment, but can be used against people. Also a m60/240 gunner has an assistant gunner and an ammo bearer as a gun team. Always remember, "The soldier, above all others prays for peace". A quote from General Douglas MacArthur. Love the channel and the reactions.
Depends, Willy Pete doesn't really "Melt Equipment"; that'd be more like Thermite and the more common subtype used by the military, Thermate. Though that doesn't "really" melt equipment either: its more the grenade and its contents themselves melt... Their ignition causes an m intense chemical reaction which turns the powder/filling of Thermite into white hot molten Iron slag, which then cools and effectively welds everything together. That's why you put them on gun breeches and engines to deny the enemy any use of your vehicles and large caliber weapons in the event you're forced to abandon them. For instance say a platoon of tanks is REALLY unfortunate and gets itself cutoff from the rest of the unit and is unable to break back through enemy lines (Say, in a peer-on-peer war). Eventually their fuel runs out after however long and their APUs sputter out, dry too and killing any electronic control of the turret, cannon & coax weapons, imaging cameras at night, etc. And on a portable radio they're ordered to just ditch and spike the tanks, and proceed to X Coordinates by 0000hrs for a SAR bird to hurry there and back". They're gonna place 1 grenade on/in the engine, and the other right on the main cannons breach of EACH tank. Now they could capture 100's of them, but the fact that every single breech and engine is welded together means you camt jusy swap some parts between tanks and get themselves a working tank. But yeah, Toss one of those into a comms truck or command tent though, she'll probably still get the job done. Though WP's probably gonna be better for burning a building, tent, classified books and dossier files etc; it's not hot enough to melt metal really, but burns a lot longer so is more guaranteed to actually catch OTHER things on fire. Willy Pete on the other hand is kinda similar, but also VERY different. White Phosphorus is pyrophoric meaning it ignites and burns on contact with air, and creates tons of smoke very quickly. So WP while not as common in grenades anymore where they're almost all HC and you gotta wait for them to bloom before they create an effective screen, WP are still pretty common as mortar and artillery rounds however, especially when rapid screening is required. But... DON'T. GET. HIT. In AIR it burns, In WATER it burns, and IN YOU it burns. Willy Pete won't really "light you on fire", but that fragmentation hitting you? Will burn... And Burn, AND BURN... a pit in your skin ALL the way to AND THROUGH your bone. That's why if your buddy gets hit with Willie Pete, as cruel and inhumane as it might soumd; You HOLD HIM DOWN, AND CUT *ALL* THAT SHIT OUT. As long as it exists and hasn't burned ALL of itself up, it will KEEP burning until it does so... I do love the Marines though, and offer a salute o7 to their "Shake N" Bake" tactic. Using Incendiary weapons which is one of many categories WP falls into; is against the Geneva convention if used on or near civilians. HOWEVER, using it for "Smoke Screening" is completely legal still. So the Marines just happen to call their smoke in right where the bad guys are dug in, and once they start coughing from the Phosphorus smoke and feel it burning in their lungs and throat (Not literally, but as in its irritating their airways; perhaps like a mild tear gas? Idk, I have never tried to gas myself. Especially with something as toxic as WP (If you want nightmares, besides googling White Phosphorus wounds, also look up Phossy Jaw) Anyways, so they're coughing and the panicing a bit which causes mosr of them to break cover and run for it trying to scramble to somewhere else RIGHT in time to receive the second barrage from the USMC, sending their regards, along with alotta HE, and wishing them the best...😂
@@pyro1047 Yeah as far as I know We Were Soldiers is the only place that shows an actual WP Grenade and I agree WP is the stuff of nightmares for me because it just does not stop burning... IF you get hit with that shit then yes the only way you will survive is basically what you said HOLD HIM DOWN and CUT IT OUT of him... while the poor SOB will be screaming his lungs out all the way... As far as Shake N" Bake is concerned trust me you can really get fucked up by that "Smoke Screen" WP ....
To answer you questions on the history of Bugels on the battlefield, Musical instruments were used for a long time as means of conveying orders. They had a much better time of cutting through the noise of battle than the human voice did and you'd use specific tunes or drum rhythms to give orders and messages.
One thing that I appreciate about this movie (and that makes it unique as far as American made Vietnam War films), is that it spends a fair amount of time humanizing the NVA as well. The fact we see the battle from the North Vietnamese perspective (and especially their commander's perspective) is a great touch. The aftermath scene where the commander takes the American flag down and gives a short speech to his subordinate about how this battle is just beginning but "the end will be the same" apart from how many on his side will die to get there is extremely poetic and it foreshadows how ultimately the US continuing to invest so many of its own soldiers lives into this conflict didn't ultimately lead to the result it wanted.
@@alexto137 Based on my own experiences (anecdotal for sure) as an American, I think I've never heard anyone (left, right, center etc.) outright defend America's involvement in Vietnam. There's nuances within the perspectives I've heard and differences of course between different people on different aspects of the war, but as far as the war itself, there's pretty universal agreement that we f'd up big time by getting involved.
@@seanbinkley7363i've lkterally heard rightwingers abd reliblcians say they shoudln't have left nd that the liberal pansies betrayed rhe war effort I have seen them have rhe same reaction to the pukk out of Afghanistan
While for the most part faithful the story has a few spots that there was legitimate criticism to accuracy. -The battle the opening is based on did not see the French forces killed to a man, they managed to break out albeit with heavy casualties, nor did the Vietnamese execute all surrendering soldiers. -The Lt. Henry Herrick was not nearly as incompetent as the film portrayed him to be, nor is the portrayal of how his platoon got cut off accurate. This is the one I feel is the worst as it did misrepresent a soldier who was KIA'd in a misleading negative light. -The final charge at the end of the movie did not happen. In reality the NVA had ceased any major offensives at this point due to losses sustained and had begun falling back to defensive positions. What's ironic however was when the movie first came out was many criticized actual events as inaccurate but the actual inaccuracies were largely ignored.
Frw reactors notice it but when col.Moore leaves his house the transition. Him walkin out the door a father then puttin on his helmut his walk changed to a soldier. Such a great example of the mind set of a soldier and father
Just a correction for you. You made a comment about the draft near the end of the film. This didn't apply to this battle, since the draft wasn't enacted until after the Tet Offensive in 1968.
Well, Colonel Morre is a) a Battalion Commander and b) there is literally no place he can be in that valley where he would not get involved in fighting. His opponent is a divisional commander, e.g. a general. THose guys are not supposed to be fighting, they got the bigger picture to take care of.
I'm an Army Vet from OIF and still in the reserve. This movie has a special port in my heart as it classifies what humanity should be. the internal conflict. The connectivity we have with our "brothers/sisters" in arms. Love you both!
The Film hit me everytime. Specially the Extendet Version gives it even more depth. And with some Historuc Context it hits even ahrder, because what Hal Moore said on Day2 about Replacement of the Troops would lead to slaughter, became true. The Unit that took the place of the 7 Kav. got slaughtert by the Vietcon Div. two Weeks later. The Vietnam War is the best Exaplme for a Local War where Great Powers try too interfere, the US should have never entered this War. To end with something positiv, i feel hope for humanity when i see that People like Hal Moore ecxist, if there are more People like him the World would be a more peaceful Place too live.
One reason you get a different feel in this movie from other Vietnam movies like full metal jacket it’s because this movie is set at the start of the war when American feelings were optimistic whereas movies like full metal jacket is set later in the war where the views of soldiers were a lot more morbid And worn down and things like drug use were at an all-time high
I remember the first time watching this as a teen like omg this is so cool at first..then I was reduced to tears afterwards ....its one of those where it changed my mind thinking war would be cool and fun which yes there are those moments but theres so much sadness from death and shit that people in war witness....Mad respect to the people who serve
When they landed and started shooting into the wood line, they were laying “suppressing fire”. The point of which is to keep the enemies head down while you move. In this example, they’re assuming they will be in contact on arrival and fired to protect the LZ while they dismounted. There is also “probing fire”, which you will do if you suspect an enemy to be in an area and fire in that direction hoping that they will expose their positions in response.
Fantastic movie and parts are heartbreaking. I used to play Battefield:Vietnam almost obessively around the time this came out. Ia Drang Valley is one of the maps they used. Obviously its impossible to get the feel of combat from a video game, but when you play the Americans and spawn in that creek bed with Vietnamese artillery pointed right on you ... its easy to understand how desperate a fight that would have been :( Barry Pepper does an amazing job in this and I HIGHLY recommend watch him and Thomas Jane in "*61". He plays Roger Maris in his quest to break Ruth's home run record :)
That is the General Electric M134 Minigun. It fires standard NATO 7.62mm x 51mm FMJ rifle rounds at a variable rate of 2,000-6,000 rounds per min. When equipped on the AC-47 it was known in vietnam as "Puff the magic dragon" as it breathed fire and turned anything in its crosshairs to a red smoke/mist... a.k.a. "The only thing that scared the VC". It's slightly older cousin which was much heavier was used in many fighter aircraft was the M61 Vulcan which fired the 20mm x 102mm round at 6,000+/min. That later lead to the GAU/8 Avenger which is the 30mm x 173mm that gives the A-10 its BRRRRRRP.
You know the scene during the opening, where the bugler is shot in the neck. And at the end he is executed by rhe NVA. That soldier was played by the directors son. Whom was so disturbed by the sight of his son being “executed” in such a brutal manner, he had to walk off set for a moment.
Great review and reaction. You didn't politicize your take on the movie. You saw it as a strictly war movie with human elements. Soldiers follow a kill or be killed. They may not hate the enemy. But, they want to survive so hopefully can return home alive. I'd like to make a few movie suggestions, No spoilers except the major star, film title and release year. Ok war * Patton (1970) George C. Scott (WWII) * Battle of the Bulge (1965) Henry Fonda (WWII) * Battle of Britain (1969) 13 Top British stars (WWII) * Joyeux Noel (2005) Foreign film (WWI) * Midway (1976) Charlton Heston (WWII) * In Harm's Way (1965) John Wayne (WWII) * The Longest Day (1962) w/ 42 international stars (WWII) * Green Berets (1968) John Wayne (Vietnam War) * MacArthur (1977) Gregory Peck (WWII, Korean War) * To Hell And Back (1955) Audie Murphy (WWII) * Glory (1989) Matthew Broderick (Civil War) * Go For Broke (1951) Van Johnson (WWII) * Valkyrie (2009) Tom Cruise (WWII) * Twelve O'Clock High ( 1949) Gregory Peck (WWII) * The Hunt For Red October ( 1990) Sean Connery * Courage Under Fire (1996) Denzel Washington * Taking Chance (2009) Kevin Bacon (Iraq)
During the Broken Arrow, you see all kinds of aircraft, from all branches. The A-1 Skyraider prop planes What looks like A-4 Skyhawks or a stand-in A-6 Intruders, probably off a carrier F5s Others I probably missed
IIRC, Broken Arrow calls in absolutely everything from the area to lend aid, to the point that other units will have nothing during the reload and refit process.
One of my favourite films ever, even if the first time I watched it I wasn't really into War movies. I have to say damn I love the film, it's so different from other war movies it's so sad and makes u emotional about what u see this was 2 Strategists who countered each others tactics. War is hell and shouldn't happen but do what your told to do regardless of your feelings, Soldiers will always get my respect.
I served as a cavalry scout for eight years. I was part of Garry Owen during OIF. It’s a trip being such a part of a unit’s history. It’s the best part of the military, how much they pass on history. I was a kid wearing that unit flash on my beret.
Read the book. Youll find it way better. Little fact Jack and goldbold, their names are next to each other on the memorial wall. Got that from the book.
They recently renamed Fort Benning, Georgia (Home of the Infantry) Fort Moore (after Lieutenant General Hal Moore and his wife Julia. (Gibson and Madeline Stowe)
Two war movies you all should see. Casualties of War(1989) starring Sean Penn, Micheal J. Fox is a heartbreaking Vietnam War film. It’s tough to watch and the soundtrack score is enough to bring you to tears. The Thin Red Line(1998) starring just about every major male actor of that time is a WW2 film set on the island of Guadalcanal and the major battles there. It is VERY intense but at the same time a beautiful film that has heroic moments and horrific moments.
My great uncle was a pilot for the First Cavalry and he showed me this movie when I was young, thank you for the reaction fellas. Btw he said the men sat on their helmets because bullets went through the heli like butter
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i seen it in theater back in 2002
do a review on gettybury 1993
Can you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE watch Good Morning Vietnam with Robin Williams. PLEEEEASE!?
You missed FREDDIE PRINCE JR in the prologue he was married to Buffy the vampire slayer. He was in the Scooby doo movie's as fred
May I suggest reacting to TO HELL AND BACK THE AUDIE MURPHY STORY. Audie was the most decorated American soldier of WW2 after the war he became a Hollywood actor making loads of westerns but he also got the part of himself in TO HELL AND BACK. So it's actually Audie Murphy playing Audie Murphy and that's why it's my favourite war movie 👍
Critics panned this movie when it came out, criticizing for its “cheap and cheesy” dialogue. The real Hal Moore came forward and publicly apologized that his men lacked creativity and originality during their final moments.
That got the critics to shut up.
Delivered like a true American. No bull.
@@ScarriorIIIhehehe a BOSS! LOL
The media are a bunch of A**holes. Through and through.
And the truth is that Henry Herrick said exactly those words.... I'm glad I could die for my country. And Carl Palmer one day before his 40th birthday who prophesized his death at X_Ray to Galen Bungham....tell my wife I love her.
Hal Moore's response was perfect. War is delightful to those who have no experience of it
@@adamr6794 True. Only people who would consider war exciting are people not experienced it. Only one's who seek to use war to advance their benefit are people who do not risk themselves and send others to die for their ambition.
I am a 74 year old Vietnam vet and Army retiree. This film always hits me hard. I ask you to please see a film that Gibson directed (but did not star in), Hacksaw Ridge. It is the story of Desmond Doss, a pacifist who served with distinction as a medical corpsman during World War II. Like this film, it is a true story of incredible heroism and is every bit as outstanding as this film.
Absolutely!!! Amazing movie and Garfield was a force of nature in that role
My Uncle and father-in-law were Vietnam vets... thank you for your service. You deserve better than how our country treated veterans during that time. You are truly the heroes!
Thank you for your service sir. We’re forever grateful
"It is the story of Desmond Doss" No, its the ridiculous retelling of Desmond Doss full of typical Mel Gibson garbage. The exact garbage that Doss feared would be put into any movie made about him which is why he refused to cooperate with any director while he was alive. He somehow managed to exaggerate all of the events that happened around Doss, while also underplaying and excluding many of his very real feats. Its a fucking insulting movie if you have done even a bit of reading into the actual battle or the man himself.
Portraying Doss as a hated greenhorn at that point in the war is beyond fucking stupid, he was already a veteran of several battles and well respected by the men he served with by that point. And that is only the tip of the iceberg for the stupidity of that movie.
@Nyx_2142 wouldn't say it's an "insulting" movie. Yes by the time of the Maeda (Hacksaw Ridge) in 1945, Doss had already seen action in Guam and Phillipines during 1944, which he was awarded for. But he did go through suspicion, rejection and criticism for his beliefs at the beginning of his military career. So for me, I feel that Mel Gibson is blending two important aspects of Doss's life story into one film, with a little creative lisence in terms chronology. The biggest exaggeration of the film though is the size of the cliff - the Maeda was certainly not as high as the movie attempts to portray it, but again I feel like it was Gibson's way of emphasising Dos's efforts and the scale of the task his unit had to undertake.
Hacksaw Ridge is by no means a perfect war movie, and has taken creative licence towards some of the factual aspects, but it's by no means an "insulting" movie.
After the war General Moore worked on cleaning up the drug abuse problem and racial strife that were prevalent at the time in the 7th Division. His plan established Officer's Leadership Schools for company-grade officers and an NCO Leadership School for staff sergeants and below as well as issuing an "Equal Opportunity Policy". He backed up the policy with the promise to punish those leaders who discriminated based on race, ethnicity or creed. As a part of the reformation of division morale, he established several different athletic programs, including football, basketball, and boxing.
The 7th was his Regiment. The Airborne Division above him was the 101st, of Band of Brothers fame. They fly in helicopters to this day, while the 82nd Airborne continues to deploy via parachutes.
@@Ryan_Christopher If I'm not mistaken, 1-7CAV fell under 1st Cav (Airmobile), not the 101ABN (AAST). the 101ABN cav unit was Troop D, 3d Sqdn, 5th Cav
@@Ryan_Christopher After the war, he transferred to the 7th ID, with which he had previously served. Notice that he wears a 7th ID patch on his right shoulder throughout the movie. At the beginning of the movie he has 11th Abn on his left shoulder, then during training they all are wearing 2nd ID. During Vietnam, both 101st Abn _AND_ 1st Air Cav were Air Assault.
@@Ryan_Christopher 1-7 was in 1st cav division during vietnam and still is in the 1st cav division it was never in the 101st
As a 39 yr old OIF injured/Medically retired 82nd/XVIII Airborne Army Ranger. I appreciate you covering this. I doubt the channel would ever do ‘Band of Brothers’ but it’s amazing and you should watch it on your own time. 🫡
Agreed great series
I absolutely love Band of Brothers❤❤
I watched Band of Brothers. Oh God i cried like a baby with my boyfriend he cries so much too. ❤
Band of brother's, the pacific and generation kill are all great war series
Thank you for your service ✌💖😀
I was lucky enough to be an extra in this film! My Buddy was in the California national guard, and I was active duty army at the time. He told me about the shoot, and I joined the unit that played 1-7 Cav in Fort Hunter-Liggett. Two years later, I participated in the invasion of Iraq.
Full circle, 25 years and a bunch of deployments in the army later, I’m a military technical advisor in Hollywood and I’ve worked on some amazing films.
This film was truly a special project to work on. Especially since I’ve done so much training at Fort Hunter-Liggett since then.
I’m glad you viewed this film. They do a much better job showing the home front and the contrast with the battlefield than most other films.
Thanks for your perspective. Pass it on.
I was an extra on that too! Only did the "Garry Owen" scene where they ran down the hill to the choppers. Was supposed to be in the "lost platoon", but some unit from Ft. Lewis was down doing training, so they got to do that.
You were active down there.... Camp Bob?
@@davidsizemore5642 I was in the 2ID on leave at the time.
@@MzQTMcHotness Ah. Tracking.
When Joe is doing the narration at the beginning about the Ia Drang Valley and he says the North Vietnamese soldiers that "died by our hands", he is being literal. He really did put down his camera and grabbed a rifle to defend the wounded soldiers in the medical area when the NVA overran the position.
Joe and Hal Moore were life-long friends after the battle.
They also went back to the site of battle after the war and met face to face with the enemy commander. True warriors that fought for their country without hating the opposition
He and his wife, Julia, were instrumental in putting together a proper and official notification system for military casualties. Especially his wife, for obvious reasons. Others have elaborated on what Hal Moore himself did for his troops. Fort Moore, Home of the Infantry, has a name that it can wear with pride.
A couple years ago, I met with one of the survivors of the "Lost Platoon". Sgt. Savage wasn't the highest-ranking NCO left, he took command because he was the closest to the radio. The gentleman talked about how the Load Bearing Equipment was set up with dual canteens on their back sides. This meant that when they tried to get a drink later in the night, all their canteens were empty due to being hit by bullets. If a soldier raised above the ground by more than 10-12 inches, they were hit by rounds. The survivors of the Lost Platoon were placed on the line as reinforcements. Colonel Moore thought he was placing them in a quiet section of the line, but of course it was the section the enemy attacked right away. It was a constant chess game of move and react. Per the survivor, the only reason they made it through was Colonel Moore, Snake and the helicopters flying in and out, the officers and NCOS, their training, along with artillery and air to ground attacks by planes and helicopters.
Wow.
If I remember correctly Snakeshit and his guys were crash landing back at base left right and center. Crandall himself had something like 14 crash landings in this engagement
Hal and Julie Moore were so influential to the development of the Army's family support structure that they renamed Fort Benning in Georgia in their honor. Fort Moore is the home of the infantry for the U.S. Army
Hal Moore was pure infantry as well, graduated near the bottom of his West Point class but managed to get an infantry posting and threw himself into it. Whatever people think about renaming stuff, that is one I think we can all get behind.
This movie is so thought provoking. My dad is a Vietnam vet, but he never talked about anything from the war when I was growing up. Even when we watched other war movies, he never flinched. He had this almost haunted look to his eyes sometimes, but he never flinched. However, while watching this one, he broke down and cried like a baby. Afterwards, he said that fighting in the war was much worse than portrayed, but that it was closer to realism than any of the other movies had come so far. I can't even imagine silently carrying all that trauma around for decades without complaint for the sake of his wife and kids. My old man is one of the toughest men I've ever known! I have nothing but respect for the men of our military.
Amen! And God bless your father and all those who have served.
My uncle is the same. My mum says he was a very different man before the war. I can’t even imagine.
Please tell your pop thank you for his service 🥰
What about the innocent people from Vietnam? Millions died because of your military.
The same can be said of the military of every single nation in the entirety of history. War is horrendous no matter which side you're on. Everyone suffers ... except the fat cat politicians and leaders who get rich off it.
FYI, the real cornel Moore was actually heavily involved in the production to get the best accurate depiction of the war from his part so mell Gibson could be as accurate as possible playing him
You mean Lieutenant General Hal Moore. He retired at that rank.
@@adambydand1214 I'm referring to how they said his name in an interview talking about the movie and how heavily he was involved in making it accurate as possible
I ADORE the shot of Mel Gibson marching off the first time. We've seen him as a father figure; he puts that helmet on and he's a Soldier. Excellent visual storytelling. Also, they toned down how bad Jimmy Nakayama was burnt; in an interview Galloway explained that when he picked him up, he could feel his ankle bones crumbling.
The scene with the cab driver is the one that hurts the most everytime i watch this movie. Wearing the army jacket you can assume he is a veteran too. He knows what he has. That poor guy
The person in the cover of Life magazine and on the cover of this book became a VP of Cantor Fitzgerald in NYC. He lost his life at the World Trade Center on 9/11 after telling all his employees to leave, and then he went around the rest of the offices to tell them to leave. He was still in the building when it collapsed.
Rick Rescorla was a helluva guy.
He went back up those stairs singing welsh and never losing spirit.
A true hero.
@@dragonfly2936 thanks, I could not remember his name, and did not have book near to refer to it.
That one scene with the guy’s legs after the napalm (if you’ve watched the movie, you know which scene I mean), still haunts me to this day
Yes
The most memorable scene from this entire movie all these years later still
Yup an the white phosphorus grenade hit as well
For real!!
Army Lt. Jimmy Nakayama did not survive his injuries. He died two days later from his wounds, never being able to see his newly born child in this world.
Sgt. Major Plumley might be the most "we gotta water this down or people will think we are exaggerating" human beings to ever draw a breath.
I got an Uncle who was at Fort Benning when Sgt Maj Plummey was there, he told me Sam Elliott got him down to a T.
Plumbey was in a club rarer then the MOH being a 3 war combat vet
@@matthewperry9183 Not really it wasn't uncommon at the beginning of Vietnam. For the higher brass. For instance the Pilot of the F100 that pulled off on the Attack run that took out the PVT was LtCol Harold Comstock a 2xFighter Ace from WWII who also fought in Vietnam.
@DevinEMILE I'm referring to 3 CIB only 325 solders have that
Guys, my father participated in this battle. He came in the second wave of choppers. He ended up doing a tour and a half due to clerical errors. Came home with a purple heart and several other medals, including a commendation for the most jumps in his unit. And i couldn't get him to watch this movie.
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But he already did..Bless him.🫡🇺🇸
My Dad only said he was in the Airborne. It was only 40 years later, a vet looked at his old photo as said "damn, that's a Master Parachutist Badge"..
@@Alvan81 ... Yeah, I don't blame the man, he already saw it.
Prayers for your Father from a current Army Chaplain. ❤️
My uncle is a Vietnam veteran. Was under Moore and in that conflict. He didn't speak much about it other than Lt. Gen Moore a great leader and trained us well.
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Much love and respect to your uncle and your family all veterans will always hold a very special place in my heart thank you all veterans 🫡🫡
One of the most powerful movies ever. The ending floors me. Mel looking over the horizon seeing hundreds of other hell holes they'd fight for like they just did. Must been awfully sobering and scary.
Thank you for reacting to this. My grandpa was a helicopter pilot in the battle of Ia Drang (this battle) and received a bronze star for his actions.
You have to see the 2 movies directed by Clint Eastwood about the battle of Iwo Jima: Flag Of Our Fathers and Letters From Iwo Jima, movies that Clint filmed one after the other, both came out in 2006, Flag Of Our Fathers narrates the US side of the conflict and Letters From Iwo Jima shows the Japanese side, that last movie I think is the best of the two, and was nominated for awards.
I would love to react to both of those films!
@@andrewgordon7662Flags of our Fathers is a great movie. I hope you get to react to it. I haven’t seen Letters From Iwo Jima.
Letters From Iwo Jima was fantastic and certaonly the better of the two films.
Alot of moments and scenes are tear jerkers, but that one line when Gibson said, "I dont know if I'll forgive myself....that my men died, and I didn't." Still hits hard
So the guy who was on the radio talking to the aircraft is a specialist who's essentially a combination Forward Observer and Air Traffic Controller. Its one of the most demanding positions in the military, as you're required to both provide targeting information, making sure all the bombs are hitting the appropriate targets, AND directing and coordinating the aircraft so that they don't run into each other or anything like that.
I was a Forward Observer when I was in the military and received some EXTREMELY light cross training on the subject, and its absolutely insane the amount of mental effort required to juggle all those moving pieces. Hes coordinating the planes, making sure they're not running into artillery, providing bombing target information, while under extremely heavy fire, as well as being fully aware that his performance could be directly responsible for the outcome of the entire battle. Absolutely legendary men, and an absolutely legendary performance in this particular battle.
My grandfather was a Forward Air Controller in 1972. He was a bit north in Da Nang. Such a difficult job.
Was he at Dong Ha?
My step dad worked with marine fo,s.
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1:15:39 one of the many reasons this war was so bloody is that American would take a hill or region from the NVA then “clean it up” then they would literally leave the hill/region they just captured to go fight for another and the NVA would just go back after the Americans left and refortify it and rinse and repeat. Theres horror stories of soldiers saying the fought to take a hill and months later would have to do it again. Was just a meat grinder.
Madeleine Stowe will lead to "The Last of the Mohicans"
Didn’t know France was involved? Bro that was their colony. They dragged us into that conflict. That’s such a crucial part to understanding Vietnam! 😭
French Indo China was part of the French colonial empire that sought independence after WW II. The French were soundly defeated in 1954 at the battle of Dien Bien Phu (presumably depicted in the opening scenes of the movie). Communism was expanding rapidly throughout the world after WW II and the US sought to stop its progress. Known as the "domino effect" the US feared the takeover of countries one by one in Asia. After the defeat in 1954 France pulled out of the region. President Eisenhower, concerned about Viet Nam's takeover, sent a small core of military advisors to assist in the fight for dominance. This began the US involvement in the country which did not end until 1974 and 58,000 fatal casualties.
The opening scene with the French Mobile Group 100 happened at the Mang Yang Pass between Pleiku and An Khe and not at Dien Bien Phu. The French lost around 2000 men and all were buried at the top of the pass with all the graves facing France. I've been there.
Intrestingly: Ho Chi Minh first sought U.S. help to gain Vietnamese independence against France. U.S. didn't want to oppose France and DeGaulle, so they rejected. Soviet Union was willing to give weapons and training as long Ho Chi Minh would accept communism... Rest is history...
@@thejamppa More precisely, the US wanted the French to join NATO so didn't oppose DeGaulle's insistence on reclaiming its former colonies, though they didn't publicly agree or approve of that. That left Ho Chi Min, who fought with the Americans against the Japanese, only one place to go for help.
Why should US worry about what happens 10km far away? Vietnam people were the victims and US were the invasors and terrorists.
The story, Joe Galloway tells the Colonel about his Great Grandfathers buying shoes in Galveston was true.
Trumpets, how you send messages before radios. The emblem on Col. Moore's helmet are leaves, oak leaves.
The aircraft were evolving at a high rate. The prop driven plane was the forerunner of the A10 Warthog as far as protecting ground troops.
This was on TV every night. We waited for the news to see what happened that day. You are correct, information was now being delivered like never before.
Truly one of the most underrated war films.
Saw it in theaters with my dad and my cousin.
Of course. This is a horrible movie. It's only propaganda. The real heroes were the innocent vietnamese people.
When this movie came a co-worker who was in Nam when this movie was set said it was the most accurate war movie to what actually happened over there at that time.
49:13 “It is well that war is so terrible, otherwise we should grow too fond of it.”
- Robert E. Lee.
In Ken Burns documentary on the war, an elderly Joe Galloway is seen on camera describing PFC Nakayama’s burns and how is skin literally sloughed off his bones after the friendly fire napalm strike. It really happened. Absolutely haunting stuff.
Second favorite war movie of all time behind hacksaw ridge
So many young men came back messed up...my son's father was a Vietnam veteran, and he had flashbacks up to the day he died in 1985. It was on that day he finally found peace.
Your son's father? How does that work?
@@adamr6794 we weren't married, so I can't call him my husband, but he is still my son's father. Too old to use the term "baby daddy" authentically, lol.
The reason there is so much focus on Snake and Too Tall is that both pilots volunteered to go in over and over again, even after X-Ray was closed and other crews were grounded. Both of them knew the dangers and yet went anyways. Without their contributions, the 7th would have probably ran out of supplies, men wouldn’t have received fast treatment, and the entire operation would have ended far differently. For their actions both pilots were awarded the Medal of Honor.
I’ve seen an interview with the real reporter, Joseph Galloway, and the scene where the young soldier, Pfc. Jimmy Nakayama, actually happened in the way depicted…. Down to the meat being pulled from the bones when he attempted to assist. In the interview with Joseph, you can see that 1,000 yard stare as tears came down. He talked about all of the faces that were burnt into his mind from that horrific battle and you could tell that he carried that with him until he died in 2021. Jimmy Nakayama did survive initially, but would die a few days later while receiving care for his wounds. Joseph Galloway would become the only civilian to be awarded the Bronze Star during the war.
Additional Sgt Savage would receive the Distinguished Service Cross (the second highest distinction below the Medal of Honor) for his actions on the battlefield.
John Lance "Jack" Geoghegan would be posthumously awarded the Silver Star, Bronze Star, Purple Heart, and the Air Medal. He would die from the wounds sustained trying to save the man who he assisted in the movie by looking at his foot, Specialist Godbolt. Their names are next to each other on the Vietnam Wall Memorial.
This movie and saving private Ryan should be shown in every school so kids can learn what what family an compassion means and also what it took for our freedom.
Never clicked on a video so fast! Thank ya’ll for reacting to this one.
i don’t recognize that agent phil coulson was in the film 😱
So, my dad was a Force Recon Marine from 1959-1970. He did 4 combat tours in Vietnam: '65, '66, '68, & '69. He was attached to MACV-SOG, and almost all of his unit's records were lost in a fire at the records warehouse in the 1970s. I didn't learn must about his service until after he died in '87 a couple months after I turned 11. Then I was suddenly trying to drink from a fire hose of information. Long story short, my old man was practically Captain America. He was also a hardcore student of military history, and he described Col. Moore to me as "Just about as good a combat tactician as there was in the war."
My dad always talked about how incredibly tough, smart, and valiant the NVA and VC soldiers were.
Great reaction. My dad served in Vietnam. A war that was hated. Think about it, WW1 They came back as celebrated heros, WW2 The American troops really came back as heros. The Korean war. They were celebrated. But the Vietnam war. Which was not a win. And our soldiers returned home as villians, being spit on and called baby killers. There was no parade or celebration for them. Just PTSD, missing limbs and no real help returning back to civilian life. Very sad. The Vietnam war will always be near and dear to me.
Bugles have been used for battlefield communication for centuries.
Different "tunes" meant different things.
Charge
Advance
Retreat
et cetera
Bugle calls were even used on military bases and outposts. For instance, "Tattoo" was played at night and was originally played to let the bartenders in the clubs on base know to "turn the taps to" {off} and stop serving for the night. "Taps to" became "Tattoo".
Joe Galloway had honestly as important of a role in this battle as any of the other soldiers. We need a civilian’s perspective on the battlefield to show the people back home why war is never, NEVER the answer.
Agreed. Well said.
And, he really did protect the wounded soldiers from what I have heard!
In some cases war is the only answer however Vietnam was not one of those cases. It was a purely civil war caused by divisions within after the Vietnamese people had successfully rebelled against their French colonial masters exploited by both the Chinese communist government and the American government to fight a "low cost" proxy war. The south Vietnamese were largely controlled by the corrupt former burocrats who worked for the French while the NVA was a true grass roots force supplied and trained by Chinese advisors. Had it not been for the Chinese involvement and Americas obsession with fighting communism America could well have found itself supporting the other side. That's what the author hinted at when he said it was a war the Americans never understood. America and the west in general turned a blind eye to far too many of their " allies" crimes and brutality in order to oppose the red menace.
"Heeeey, Joe." Jimmy Hendrix
Unfortunately unless you are prepared to allow aggressors to take your land and rule over you, you have to defend yourself. Wars have been fought since the beginning of human history, this is how the countries we have now were formed. We've had relative peace in the West since the devastation of WWII, but now malevolent forces are working to destabilise that peace.
I remember the war. I was young, but we had bracelets that had the number of POWs and we wrote letters to their families at school. I work for a vet who was a nurse (male) in Vietnam. This is one of his favorite movies. He worked on the planes that flew in and dead dropped to pick up injured. They picked everyone alive up, regardless of what side they were on, including civilians. There were at least 20 minutes, often much longer, from any doctors and they held those boys together as best they could. He lives with the side effects of the Agent Orange and suffers with what they call Sundowners Syndrome. I have so much respect for this man. My father was a Korean war veteran but rarely talked about it. So much respect for all of our troops. And yes, regardless of "sides" they are all someone's son, daughter, father, mother, brother, sister. If only the leaders would have a duel with each other and keep their citizens out of it. I bet there would be much less war. Also, I know Mel Gibson can be a hot button for people, myself included, but he is an amazing actor and always comes through in these kind of roles. Enjoyed your disscussion, ✌💖😀
My ex husband deployed 3 times to iraq at the height of the war the last thing i would say was " No medals, No flags" meaning dont do anything crazy to get medals cause back then you got those for really bad shit and of course no flag meaning i didn't want to be given a flag over his grave. Now thats what i say to my son. I spent years volunteering with Army wife organizations that Mrs. Moore helped found.
The first part of this was filmed in Fort Benning Ga. It was renamed after Gen Moore and is now called Fort Moore. The 2nd half was filmed at Hunter-Leggatt Ca.
Yall have earned a lifelong fan in me. Mad respect for your vulnerability in showing your emotions to the world. Secondly when yall said regardless of your dislike of Gibson, you respect his performance in this film. Takes a big man to be able to give kudos to someone they don’t agree with on many things 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
My Father was there and received the Bronze Star with SGM Plumley and many others in this and the subsequent battles. He never spoke of it. I found the original Bronze Star orders and a Thanksgiving Day menu that took place just 2+ weeks later in An Khe. I was one of those little kids in p.j.s at Fort Benning in 1965.
This movie touched me personally more than any movie I've ever seen and i pieced it together while seeing it at the movie theater.
I miss my Pops. He's been gone since 1988 despite surviving WW2, Korea and Vietnam. Yet again, he never said a word.
As a military child seeing friends finding out about there parents death hurts so much
I worked crew on this at Fort Benning, GA. I have a ton of memories from it all.
That part where the little girls asks her dad what a war is, gets me all the time. I’m a disabled veteran and my 6 year old daughter asks me all the time why I have the problems that I do and it’s hard to explain how or why I’m not like all her friends dad. She’ll understand when she’s older but for now, it’s hard to explain to her.
For the first time i know a thumbnails not clickbait. Let the emotions flow gentleman.
The Man Without A Face reference 👏👏
Truly an incredibly underrated film!!!
Joe Galloway and Hal Moore didn't have to do a lot of consultation for the book. They lived it. Joe was an ambassador and spokesman for Vietnam vets. He went home 3 years ago next month (August 18, 2021). Rest in peace. RVN '69.
My father's uncle fought in Vietnam as a master gunnery Sargent, and that scene with them pissing on the mortars actually happened. They were being fired so often they were afraid the gredaes would explode inside the mortar it got so hot. there was even a time in his foxhole that he ran out of grenades and had to take off his boot and Chuck it at a man rushing him. It threw him off just enough for another soldier to bayonet him, quite literally saving his life. Wars fought back then were super intense. Nothing like how we fight them now.
This and hacksaw ridge are my favorite war movies
The final charge did not happen, Another battalion from 7th Calvary was helicoptered in an they marched in to relieve them. Unfortunately they were ambushed at their LZ (LZ Albany) and they took more KIA than Moore’s battalion. We started the body count strategy and ten years later we lost the war
25:50 its a silver oak leaf, the insignia of a lieutenant colonel.
Considering some of the historical reactions that have been on this channel, I thank you John and you Andrew for do proper service to a movie such as this. the respect you showed the men, while still talking and enjoying the movie aspects of it, is how a true reaction should be, not one of jokes and laughter and satire, but one of respect and commendation.
This is one of the best reactions this channel has ever done, and when it comes to historical movies, I hope and beg that it is you two for the majority of historical reactions, for you two are 100% pure class.
Great movie 4 stars. When the officers leave in the middle of the night. And when the wounded soldiers return to the states and no one greets them in the airport, won’t ever not hit me hard.
3:07 not to insult anyone, but Vietnam is a big deal in U.S. history and I guess they teached you a lot about it at school. Do they really ignore the circumstances that lead to the Vietnam War? Like the fact that part of the world was a French colony?
Yes. In fact in public schooling Vietnam is barely discussed. American pride doesn't let us talk about our losses. American education is a joke. Children are being taught that natives GAVE us their land and completely cut out trail of tears. The American school system is a cattle system just training them to be a lackey for the workforce. Teaching independent thinking isn't on the top of the list
To be honest yes. A lot of the wars we were involved in post ww2 get completely divorced from reality when taught in our classrooms. They way I was taught was that after world War 2,Russia and America fought a proxy war across the world and would respectively back any country that declared itself either communist or democratic.
This meant that when communist aligned north Vietnam attacked south Vietnam America had to go and stop communist aggression and create a safe area for democracy to take hold in the region.
Now obviously that's nonsense but I was 25 when I first saw this movie and that's exactly when I found out that Vietnam had been colonized by the French.
They mention I’d but they really don’t go over the lead up nearly enough.
One of the greatest war movies ever if you ask me.
If you like the movie. Then i recommend Ken Burns documentary series about the Vietnam war, we get to hear from Hal Moore and from Joe Galloway telling the real story. (He breaks down in tears talking about the trooper with the napalm burn)
I watched this in the theater before i left for basic in 2002. Not only was it the saddest story ever, it gave me a sense of pride to join this caliber of men, led by courage and a strong sense of duty
I spent my entire adult life in the military. I have been in combat, I have seen the worst of people....but also the best. War is Hell. The war at home is the unimaginable hell. This film does an amazing job letting you FEEL both. From both sides of a conflict.
Hal’s (Mel Gibson) wife is actress Madeline Stowe .. She starred with Brad Pitt & Bruce Willis in “The Twelve Monkeys”
This is one of the last movies I was able to see with my dad before he died and I loved it.
You mentioned Colonel Moore leading from the battlefield while the Vietnamese Commander was leading from his headquarters in the cave. The difference is Moore is a Battalion Commander and is expected to be with his men, while the other is a Division Commander who looks at the big picture and directs his Battalion and Regimental Commanders where to fight
I did 2 tours in Iraq in the infantry, in 2003/2004. This was the movie that we watched to motivate us before we left. To answer a couple questions, white phosphorus (willy peat) is usually used to melt equipment, but can be used against people. Also a m60/240 gunner has an assistant gunner and an ammo bearer as a gun team. Always remember, "The soldier, above all others prays for peace". A quote from General Douglas MacArthur. Love the channel and the reactions.
Depends, Willy Pete doesn't really "Melt Equipment"; that'd be more like Thermite and the more common subtype used by the military, Thermate. Though that doesn't "really" melt equipment either: its more the grenade and its contents themselves melt... Their ignition causes an m intense chemical reaction which turns the powder/filling of Thermite into white hot molten Iron slag, which then cools and effectively welds everything together. That's why you put them on gun breeches and engines to deny the enemy any use of your vehicles and large caliber weapons in the event you're forced to abandon them.
For instance say a platoon of tanks is REALLY unfortunate and gets itself cutoff from the rest of the unit and is unable to break back through enemy lines (Say, in a peer-on-peer war). Eventually their fuel runs out after however long and their APUs sputter out, dry too and killing any electronic control of the turret, cannon & coax weapons, imaging cameras at night, etc. And on a portable radio they're ordered to just ditch and spike the tanks, and proceed to X Coordinates by 0000hrs for a SAR bird to hurry there and back". They're gonna place 1 grenade on/in the engine, and the other right on the main cannons breach of EACH tank. Now they could capture 100's of them, but the fact that every single breech and engine is welded together means you camt jusy swap some parts between tanks and get themselves a working tank.
But yeah, Toss one of those into a comms truck or command tent though, she'll probably still get the job done. Though WP's probably gonna be better for burning a building, tent, classified books and dossier files etc; it's not hot enough to melt metal really, but burns a lot longer so is more guaranteed to actually catch OTHER things on fire.
Willy Pete on the other hand is kinda similar, but also VERY different. White Phosphorus is pyrophoric meaning it ignites and burns on contact with air, and creates tons of smoke very quickly. So WP while not as common in grenades anymore where they're almost all HC and you gotta wait for them to bloom before they create an effective screen, WP are still pretty common as mortar and artillery rounds however, especially when rapid screening is required. But... DON'T. GET. HIT.
In AIR it burns, In WATER it burns, and IN YOU it burns. Willy Pete won't really "light you on fire", but that fragmentation hitting you? Will burn... And Burn, AND BURN... a pit in your skin ALL the way to AND THROUGH your bone. That's why if your buddy gets hit with Willie Pete, as cruel and inhumane as it might soumd; You HOLD HIM DOWN, AND CUT *ALL* THAT SHIT OUT. As long as it exists and hasn't burned ALL of itself up, it will KEEP burning until it does so...
I do love the Marines though, and offer a salute o7 to their "Shake N" Bake" tactic. Using Incendiary weapons which is one of many categories WP falls into; is against the Geneva convention if used on or near civilians. HOWEVER, using it for "Smoke Screening" is completely legal still. So the Marines just happen to call their smoke in right where the bad guys are dug in, and once they start coughing from the Phosphorus smoke and feel it burning in their lungs and throat (Not literally, but as in its irritating their airways; perhaps like a mild tear gas? Idk, I have never tried to gas myself. Especially with something as toxic as WP (If you want nightmares, besides googling White Phosphorus wounds, also look up Phossy Jaw)
Anyways, so they're coughing and the panicing a bit which causes mosr of them to break cover and run for it trying to scramble to somewhere else RIGHT in time to receive the second barrage from the USMC, sending their regards, along with alotta HE, and wishing them the best...😂
@@pyro1047 Yeah as far as I know We Were Soldiers is the only place that shows an actual WP Grenade and I agree WP is the stuff of nightmares for me because it just does not stop burning... IF you get hit with that shit then yes the only way you will survive is basically what you said HOLD HIM DOWN and CUT IT OUT of him... while the poor SOB will be screaming his lungs out all the way... As far as Shake N" Bake is concerned trust me you can really get fucked up by that "Smoke Screen" WP ....
Such a great movie. Looking forward to watching the video properly when I get home later!
To answer you questions on the history of Bugels on the battlefield, Musical instruments were used for a long time as means of conveying orders. They had a much better time of cutting through the noise of battle than the human voice did and you'd use specific tunes or drum rhythms to give orders and messages.
One thing that I appreciate about this movie (and that makes it unique as far as American made Vietnam War films), is that it spends a fair amount of time humanizing the NVA as well. The fact we see the battle from the North Vietnamese perspective (and especially their commander's perspective) is a great touch. The aftermath scene where the commander takes the American flag down and gives a short speech to his subordinate about how this battle is just beginning but "the end will be the same" apart from how many on his side will die to get there is extremely poetic and it foreshadows how ultimately the US continuing to invest so many of its own soldiers lives into this conflict didn't ultimately lead to the result it wanted.
agreed, the one war we should not have involved in 🫡🇺🇸
@@alexto137 Based on my own experiences (anecdotal for sure) as an American, I think I've never heard anyone (left, right, center etc.) outright defend America's involvement in Vietnam. There's nuances within the perspectives I've heard and differences of course between different people on different aspects of the war, but as far as the war itself, there's pretty universal agreement that we f'd up big time by getting involved.
He then puts the flag back like a headstone
@@seanbinkley7363i've lkterally heard rightwingers abd reliblcians say they shoudln't have left nd that the liberal pansies betrayed rhe war effort
I have seen them have rhe same reaction to the pukk out of Afghanistan
Which War Movie has the BEST Characters / Characterization?
Pearl Harbor is my favorite war movie ❤ Josh Hartnet and Ben Affleck are amazing in it! I was born on December 7th so I watch it every year
It comes down to 3 for me; Saving Privte Ryan, We Were Soldiers, and Wind Talkers"
Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers the HBO show
@@marlainalindsey3279Pearl Harbor? Well, I guess if you want more Hollywood and not realness then yeah.
@@bigrazo5098Also Band of Brothers
While for the most part faithful the story has a few spots that there was legitimate criticism to accuracy.
-The battle the opening is based on did not see the French forces killed to a man, they managed to break out albeit with heavy casualties, nor did the Vietnamese execute all surrendering soldiers.
-The Lt. Henry Herrick was not nearly as incompetent as the film portrayed him to be, nor is the portrayal of how his platoon got cut off accurate. This is the one I feel is the worst as it did misrepresent a soldier who was KIA'd in a misleading negative light.
-The final charge at the end of the movie did not happen. In reality the NVA had ceased any major offensives at this point due to losses sustained and had begun falling back to defensive positions.
What's ironic however was when the movie first came out was many criticized actual events as inaccurate but the actual inaccuracies were largely ignored.
Frw reactors notice it but when col.Moore leaves his house the transition. Him walkin out the door a father then puttin on his helmut his walk changed to a soldier. Such a great example of the mind set of a soldier and father
Just a correction for you. You made a comment about the draft near the end of the film. This didn't apply to this battle, since the draft wasn't enacted until after the Tet Offensive in 1968.
Well, Colonel Morre is a) a Battalion Commander and b) there is literally no place he can be in that valley where he would not get involved in fighting.
His opponent is a divisional commander, e.g. a general. THose guys are not supposed to be fighting, they got the bigger picture to take care of.
This. The battlefield was literally just like he described as a possibility. Smaller than a football field.
His opponent was a Colonel. Hal was a Lt. Col
I'm an Army Vet from OIF and still in the reserve. This movie has a special port in my heart as it classifies what humanity should be. the internal conflict. The connectivity we have with our "brothers/sisters" in arms. Love you both!
the song when they charge the hill is called " Sgt. MacKenzie " a lament written about the song-writer's great grandfather from WW1
The Film hit me everytime. Specially the Extendet Version gives it even more depth. And with some Historuc Context it hits even ahrder, because what Hal Moore said on Day2 about Replacement of the Troops would lead to slaughter, became true. The Unit that took the place of the 7 Kav. got slaughtert by the Vietcon Div. two Weeks later.
The Vietnam War is the best Exaplme for a Local War where Great Powers try too interfere, the US should have never entered this War.
To end with something positiv, i feel hope for humanity when i see that People like Hal Moore ecxist, if there are more People like him the World would be a more peaceful Place too live.
Julia Moore is played by Madeleine Stowe. She starred in Last of the Mohicans, Blink, Bad Girls, and Unlawful Entry.
One reason you get a different feel in this movie from other Vietnam movies like full metal jacket it’s because this movie is set at the start of the war when American feelings were optimistic whereas movies like full metal jacket is set later in the war where the views of soldiers were a lot more morbid And worn down and things like drug use were at an all-time high
I remember the first time watching this as a teen like omg this is so cool at first..then I was reduced to tears afterwards ....its one of those where it changed my mind thinking war would be cool and fun which yes there are those moments but theres so much sadness from death and shit that people in war witness....Mad respect to the people who serve
When they landed and started shooting into the wood line, they were laying “suppressing fire”. The point of which is to keep the enemies head down while you move. In this example, they’re assuming they will be in contact on arrival and fired to protect the LZ while they dismounted. There is also “probing fire”, which you will do if you suspect an enemy to be in an area and fire in that direction hoping that they will expose their positions in response.
Yesss so glad you’re reacting to some military history. Band of brothers, The Pacific and Masters of the Air should be on your list
Fantastic movie and parts are heartbreaking.
I used to play Battefield:Vietnam almost obessively around the time this came out. Ia Drang Valley is one of the maps they used.
Obviously its impossible to get the feel of combat from a video game, but when you play the Americans and spawn in that creek bed with Vietnamese artillery pointed right on you ... its easy to understand how desperate a fight that would have been :(
Barry Pepper does an amazing job in this and I HIGHLY recommend watch him and Thomas Jane in "*61". He plays Roger Maris in his quest to break Ruth's home run record :)
That is the General Electric M134 Minigun. It fires standard NATO 7.62mm x 51mm FMJ rifle rounds at a variable rate of 2,000-6,000 rounds per min. When equipped on the AC-47 it was known in vietnam as "Puff the magic dragon" as it breathed fire and turned anything in its crosshairs to a red smoke/mist... a.k.a. "The only thing that scared the VC". It's slightly older cousin which was much heavier was used in many fighter aircraft was the M61 Vulcan which fired the 20mm x 102mm round at 6,000+/min. That later lead to the GAU/8 Avenger which is the 30mm x 173mm that gives the A-10 its BRRRRRRP.
You know the scene during the opening, where the bugler is shot in the neck. And at the end he is executed by rhe NVA. That soldier was played by the directors son. Whom was so disturbed by the sight of his son being “executed” in such a brutal manner, he had to walk off set for a moment.
Great review and reaction. You didn't politicize your take on the movie. You saw it as a strictly war movie with human elements. Soldiers follow a kill or be killed. They may not hate the enemy. But, they want to survive so hopefully can return home alive.
I'd like to make a few movie suggestions, No spoilers except the major star, film title and release year. Ok war
* Patton (1970) George C. Scott (WWII)
* Battle of the Bulge (1965) Henry Fonda (WWII)
* Battle of Britain (1969) 13 Top British stars (WWII)
* Joyeux Noel (2005) Foreign film (WWI)
* Midway (1976) Charlton Heston (WWII)
* In Harm's Way (1965) John Wayne (WWII)
* The Longest Day (1962) w/ 42 international stars (WWII)
* Green Berets (1968) John Wayne (Vietnam War)
* MacArthur (1977) Gregory Peck (WWII, Korean War)
* To Hell And Back (1955) Audie Murphy (WWII)
* Glory (1989) Matthew Broderick (Civil War)
* Go For Broke (1951) Van Johnson (WWII)
* Valkyrie (2009) Tom Cruise (WWII)
* Twelve O'Clock High ( 1949) Gregory Peck (WWII)
* The Hunt For Red October ( 1990) Sean Connery
* Courage Under Fire (1996) Denzel Washington
* Taking Chance (2009) Kevin Bacon (Iraq)
During the Broken Arrow, you see all kinds of aircraft, from all branches.
The A-1 Skyraider prop planes
What looks like A-4 Skyhawks or a stand-in
A-6 Intruders, probably off a carrier
F5s
Others I probably missed
IIRC, Broken Arrow calls in absolutely everything from the area to lend aid, to the point that other units will have nothing during the reload and refit process.
@@leojamesclune1730 Yeah. It's a general call for all available assets. Hopefully nothing major happens anywhere else during the situation.
My grandpa was drafted in 1966 and by 1967 he was in country. He was in the tet offensive.
How dare you guys see Ryan hurst and not mention sons of anarchy!!!
Interesting to note Fort Benning where they trained in this movie (and real life) was then renamed Fort Moore after Colonel Hal Moore
Amazing thing is Moore was a Lt. Colonel; he didn’t even have to be there but he was right in the thick of it.
One of my favourite films ever, even if the first time I watched it I wasn't really into War movies. I have to say damn I love the film, it's so different from other war movies it's so sad and makes u emotional about what u see this was 2 Strategists who countered each others tactics. War is hell and shouldn't happen but do what your told to do regardless of your feelings, Soldiers will always get my respect.
I served as a cavalry scout for eight years. I was part of Garry Owen during OIF. It’s a trip being such a part of a unit’s history. It’s the best part of the military, how much they pass on history. I was a kid wearing that unit flash on my beret.
Read the book. Youll find it way better. Little fact Jack and goldbold, their names are next to each other on the memorial wall. Got that from the book.
They recently renamed Fort Benning, Georgia (Home of the Infantry) Fort Moore (after Lieutenant General Hal Moore and his wife Julia. (Gibson and Madeline Stowe)
Two war movies you all should see.
Casualties of War(1989) starring Sean Penn, Micheal J. Fox is a heartbreaking Vietnam War film. It’s tough to watch and the soundtrack score is enough to bring you to tears.
The Thin Red Line(1998) starring just about every major male actor of that time is a WW2 film set on the island of Guadalcanal and the major battles there. It is VERY intense but at the same time a beautiful film that has heroic moments and horrific moments.
My great uncle was a pilot for the First Cavalry and he showed me this movie when I was young, thank you for the reaction fellas. Btw he said the men sat on their helmets because bullets went through the heli like butter