[Vinesauce] Vinny - Kid Icarus (PART 1)
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
- Vinny plays Kid Icarus for Nintendo Entertainment System on Vinesauce!
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Fun fact: You can actually intimidate the shopkeepers in this game into lowering their prices.
All you have to do is press A + B on controller 2. HOWEVER your "arrow strength" must be higher than the number of the level the shop is in. If it isn't, the shopkeeper will get very angry and RAISE his prices instead.
Even More Fun Fact: In the Japanese version, you do this by actually speaking into the Famicom's built-in microphone!
@@thestripedmenace That is way too funny. I can actually imagine some lil' japanese bab yelling his heart out at the controller to get a discount back in the day.
That's pretty novel.
@@Lucas-db2jq man imagine just screaming into the second controller for lower prices. Funniest shit i've ever seen.
In new bideo gaems u just have to have a seizure into the controller and u win
The fact that Sakurai has said he has no plans to continue the series and that Uprising is very unlikely to get a switch port depresses me immensely.
Also at 8:12 I just noticed, "What do you say!" should end in a question mark.
It doesn’t have to be Sakurai who continues the series. I still don’t think it’s likely anytime soon, but it’s not impossible so don’t get too depressed over it.
It’s not...what is it? 25 years since hades said the sequel would come? yet!
I think that's just a phrase
@@safabekr Only like 16 years to go!
I want a version of the game you can play without breaking your wrist
The difficulty of this game starting off hard and getting easier as you progress is a strange choice, and I'd argue it's maybe not the best choice, but in a weird way it makes sense narratively. You start off as a prisoner of the Underworld trying to escape it, and ultimately you end up in Sky World (the land of the angels and your home turf).
Back when I played this, at first I didn't realize that the flying nose enemies were flying noses, so my mind interpreted them as these surreal and bizarre alien creatures. Then suddenly it clicked, I realized that they were noses, and I went "no, wait, go back to be being bizarre aliens, that was cool", but I couldn't unsee the noses. :(
Fun fact: the rooms where you get strength upgrades are based on a hidden score. If it's not high enough, you don't get the upgrade.
This game could use a redux hack.
man I completely forgot that pit sounds like a newborn kitten when hit
18:24 Vinny deflates
worst noise 2021
@@BlueThe1up Worst noise so far.
Kid icarus: hearts are money
Castlevania: hearts are ammo
Mario: mushrooms are life
Mario64: actually coins are life
Pls
This always bothers me in Castlevania because I want health more than ammo, those games are hard.
Coins refill your health bar. They are not life. I say that because there are little hearts in the stages that also refill your health. So no coins aren't life
@@doomswell health came from wall chicken stupid
@@DirectorOfChaos9292 Wow, like I imagine you're joking at me but you're other message makes you look like you're not. Which means you're meanspirited and lack comprehension. I know how Castlevania works, I just wish it worked differently.
If Im wrong and you are just joking then whatever but... careful calling people stupid; someone might actually care, or you might make yourself look stupid.
@@doomswell
Seems kinda stupid to me.
Vinny streams the 3DS Kid Icarus. No not that one
I really like this game, imagine what an snes sequel would've been loke
Terwly wood halve bean a classuc senes gam
I like to believe it wouldve been a top-down dark horse of the series.
"Do I have to wait another 20 years for a sequel?"-Hades.
That's what he said in the secret ending message, right?
Basically, people who played Uprising first will feel the same thing when old fans of the OG Kid Icarus got Uprising after so many years without hearing anything from that franchise. We'll be in our 30's thinking Kid Icarus is long dead, when suddenly daddy Sakurai comes out with another game out of nowhere.
Half-way there!
I turned myself into an eggplant, Palutena... I'm eggplant Pit!
Commit un-live for posting this comment.
He turns himself into an eggplant, funniest shit I've ever seen.
Into the dinner pot with you
@@MetalMercutio Does eggplant actually taste like eggs?
Vinny attempts the summoning ritual for another dormant franchise, on an anniversary year no less.
If anytime such rituals work, it would be now. Judging by my profile picture, you imagine how I would feel about this lol.
But his rituals can also summon unforseen events too. He was playing Minecraft and look who was added to Smash XD.
Not sure if this was brought up on stream but oh well
Fun fact: Kid Icarus is considered a "sibling series" to Metroid because it runs on Metroid's engine and was made by most of the same devs
Bit like Elder Scrolls and Fallout.
@@greenhowie or like pikmin and animal crossing
That might explain why Kid Icarus features Kamatoes, which are literally Metroids with a different name. Their name even means "son of Metroid" in Japanese.
@@CeHee123 Also explains why the side rooms remind me of Kraid's Room.
It's weird to think that "engines" were even a thing back then. I figured all those games had to be made from scratch in raw assembly code.
Wow, it's weird looking at these sprites and remembering how they looked in Uprising.
Character designer here! On the topic of CG and replacing actors, that's frankly impossible. Even in the old days of 2D Disney animation, they frequently based their character designs on their voice actors to help give it a more compelling performance, and help the voice actors connect with their character better when they saw themselves in the role. (As for back as Peter Pan to as recently as Incredibles) Designers need reference from actors, because at the end of the day, animators are just actors with a pencil/computer mouse.
I'd say the issue lies more in the lack of acceptance of animation as anything but a kid's medium, and the reluctance on the part of Hollywood to try anything new and only resurrect old safe franchises. But I'm also a biased animation-type fella, so. 🤷
Lion kinmg
@@moosesues8887 Uh...Could you phrase that in the form of a question sir...?
Nobody tell Vinny that theres an actual method to do the treasure chambers and that its not actually luck based. Its basically however many mallets you uncover, you shoot specific pots in an order.
Imagine if someone made a multiplayer mod with Dark Pit. Would be cool.
Multiplayer IS NOT cool
It would be cool, but it wouldn't make any sense, lore wise Uprising occurs 20ish years after the og Kid Icarus happened
Two people are fun destroyers. Ones a nerd and the other has no friends
@@dragonslayermasterornstein83 yes
I’d also love to see how a Kid Icarus on the SNES would look like.
It's kinda weird thinking about how different Uprising is compared to this.
Sakurai actually created Uprising's gameplay first and tried to pitch it as a Star Fox title. He stuck with Iwata's suggestion to make it Kid Icarus because it meant carte blanche on the writing, characters, and world.
@@tacticaljunk1608 So is it Sakurai's or Iwata's fault people are still horny for Palutena after all these years? Not that I'm judging.
Somewhere along the way it was gonna be another Sin and Punishment, which is where Uprising gets its gameplay
Imagine a Kid Icarus Uprising Switch port with extended multiplayer modes.
Imagine if it had a mode that was similar to Kirby Air Ride's City Trial where you have to boost different stats and find weapons across the field while avoiding or attacking other players and stealing their hard earned boosts. With different events like Hades destroying half of the map or several Reapers appearing... until time's up and you all face each other in a randomly selected battle mode/minigame.
Imagine the possibilities.
That would make me sad though because why not just make an Air Ride sequel at that point?
@@kylesatwon1134 Why not both?
I don't see why Air Ride 2, or some sort Kirby party game with Air Ride mode added in to it, could not coexist with a "Plus" port of Uprising.
Imagination has no boundaries, but sadly these ideas are only my own. If I could, I would make these happen.
Imagine if they made an actual sequel instead of a port? It's not like KI:U sold poorly on the 3DS, the numbers are there already.
Imagine all the people
@@vinesaucefullsauce You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.
Not so fun fact: The amount of time between the release of Kid Icarus and Kid Icarus: Of Myths and Monsters is the same amount of time as there was between the creation of Kid Icarus: Of Myths and Monsters and the death of the creator of the series, Gunpei Yokoi. As such, I believe that if the Virtual Boy was not a flop, Kid Icarus would have gotten more installments.
Vinny: "I can't just keep using rewind"
Narrator: "He used it for everything."
*_”Vinny abuses the Rewind~”_*
I'm still amazed on how the series started with this, and then got to Uprising, especially since uprising is the 3rd kid icarus game
You guys remember that time simon belmont stole kid icarus love arrow but accidentally shot himself with it and fell in love with mother brain and stuff
30:00 Actually, the CBT difficulty of old games was mostly a holdover from the Arcade days of the 80s, where difficulty = Kids would cough up more quarters for the machines. Pit may or may not have been on an arcade machine, but he hails close enough to that age to potentially be so.
Kind of, in Arcades it was to suck money out of wallets, in home console games its to extend the playtime since there wasnt the tech for big scale games
That is a STUPID way of thinking! Lets make the game harder so kids can't beat it. I'd love to just slap those fuckers
@@DirectorOfChaos9292 Thats pretty much how arcades work though. I think its also kind of a risk and reward effect with having to spend money for it that exploits similair psychology to gambling
I am an adult but if I could id waste so much fucking money on arcade videogames
It wasn't just difficulty that made kids cough up quarters. The game had to be fun too. If the game wasn't fun, why would a kid bother putting more money into a bullshit hard game? Developers back then had to balance fun and difficulty.
25:01 Wow, I'm glad I'm not the only one. I also used to pronounce Palutena as Pollute-tenna.
I want to see a port of this game, but the levels are rendered on a 3D cylinder
Maybe with the NES 3D emulator.
"Thanks for celebrating my anniversary Vine-icus!"
"You get a high score for this game! :)"
44:49 Scatman's world
looks like Vinny lost at Hades once again
Yknow I just now noticed the extreme parallels between the Subspace Emissary from Super Smash Bros Brawl and Kid Icarus.
This stream is rife with Vinny noises.
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0:37:20 - Scrin'd 0:39:36
0:40:59 - Mother Brain
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0:52:42 - "I believe I glitched Cerberus"
0:55:56 - "It pulped me wrong."
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1:03:38 - "These are the guys that can steal your shit." "HE STOLE MY SHIT!"
1:04:58 1:05:19 - The run has no honor
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1:18:01 - _Kill me_
1:25:32 - Eat a fat eggplant
18:23 Special Guest - Bruce Lee
Oh, wow. I remember playing this on my 3ds. It was a nightmare. Fun but a nightmare.
Yaaaw! It's rewind time!
Well at least Breath of the Immortals: Fenyx’s Wild Ride was good for *something*
bing xliaow
I have so many memories with this game.
I played Kid Icarus for the first time on the Wii Virtual Console. It took me hours to beat level 2, and then hours more to beat level 3. The first palace was comparatively easy, but by then I had my fill of it. Good game but more challenging than it had a right to be.
ok
yer baby, and mamer, two of the holy trinity of which the third has yet to be revealed
Imagine if the Gameboy kid icarus got the samus returns treatment and then got put into a trilogy collection.
I really liked the 3D Classics run of old Nintendo games on the 3DS. It's a shame there weren't more of them
Everyone keeps saying that this game is completely different from Uprising, but I'm seeing a lot of similarities, this is basically a shooter, there are hordes of enemies, power ups, and more importantly, hot springs
I remember they once had a promotion where you entered into a contest to win a 3DS with a special design, and there was something of a runners up prize where you got this game before it officially released (I think).
I got the game.
Chill stream to relax and do loads of assignments to that are getting in the way of me finishing painting that fucking kit
I never knew there were dungeons and RPG mechanics. As s kid I always skipped on this game, because I thought the screens would just repeat themselves.
Vinny's incorrect pronunciation of Kid Icarus sounds a lot like how you say Caddicarus.
Kidd-icarus
Cadd-icarus
Don't know if that was intentional but man what a crazy similarity.
Nice to get some serious boomer vibes from Vinny here. "Back in my day...". I'm about the same age as him, slightly older, and indeed, these games were the shit in our youth
I thought I was young until I heard Vinny saying he'll be 45 this year.
What the fuck!? 😮
I think a distinction should be made between "hard" and "cheap" particularly when it comes to retro games. This is definitely on the cheap side. The enemies are semi random in their movements and there's often almost unavoidable hits unless you know the specific spawn points and patterns so you can dodge. Enemies also spawn on you which is a huge bullshit move. I have absolutely no problem with Vinny rewinding to get through the game. He's rewound in "fairer" games to get through them let alone one that's constantly pulling crap on him like this.
Agreed. But people are blinded by nostalgia and will defend this game like the tards they are
@@DirectorOfChaos9292 No one is doing that.
Also, Vinny made the cutest imitation of a baby dragon, when he fell into the lava, that I've heard. 😂
"Which Zelda is this?" Zelda II: Hellenic Boogaloo
The first few seconds i thought i just got rickrolled
Wow, just finished watching the vod.
K.
K. Slider
S C R I N D
"Words man, we made them up"
I gave kid Icarus love by playing uprising, really funny game.
I remember when I had less than a dozen games as a kid and 5 of them were all stars
really childish of him to abuse rewinding just because he can't clear it first try and calls it dated and unfair when he plays badly and jumps off. i thought he was better than that
I just think he doesn't have the same patience (or lack of other options) to put up with an unforgiving game like this as he was when he was a kid.
I wasn't good at Wizards & Warriors as a kid, or Fester's Quest, but they were cool games and I'd manage to get maybe halfway through sometimes, and I'd enjoy it, but it also greatly frustrated me.
As an adult, I'm better at games, and I think I have more patience now, but not for some of these really unforgiving games, I don't think I have that in me anymore, and I can see why Vinny doesn't, even though I don't agree that it's the game that's unfair.
Kid Icarus is more lenient than a lot of unforgiving games, given the passwords and being able to build up your stats, but then I look at stuff like Ninja Gaiden and I know that's a lot harder than Batman or Gremlins 2, games I love (which I can't 'beat' without savestates and rewinds) and I can't see myself enjoying it. Metroid and Zelda are more my speed now.
Maybe it's age, but I'm a lot better at other games I sucked at as a kid instead, so there's that.
Games like these were not designed with respect for your time. You're expected to grind through them dying and repeating sections again and again until you get through them. Not so fun.
@@AWISECROW That's how challenges work. You try it over and over, and fail many times until you eventually master it and feel accomplished, which is the essence of video games.
@@MisterSpeedStacking That's true, however the kind of repetition which games like Kid Icarus demands isn't for everyone. It's not an unfair game, but the unforgiving nature of it may make it not feel very rewarding in its challenge for a lot of people.
@@AWISECROW Kid Icarus isn't really that bad in this regard, there are action games out there which essentially just demand rote memorization out of you to beat them, ergo you just remember a pattern of actions and it always applies the same way every time you play.
can we talk about how the nope at 34:23 sounded exactly like the real thing
I had this game on Virtual Console because it was a game I always missed out on as a kid (we had the entire Super Mario Bros. trilogy, Dr. Mario, Tetris, Metroid, Mega Man 2 and 3, and a few other games for our NES - Kid Icarus was just the one big one at the time I felt I was missing out on). I was frustrated because it was stupidly easy to accidentally press "duck" on the fall-through platforms in those first couple of vertical levels; I made it all the way to the dungeon a couple of times by rushing, but was then immediately stomped by the dungeon enemies right away and never even got to see an Egg Plant Wizard for myself.
My hiatus ended in a good way! And it's the definitive version of Pit's first adventure! Hmhmhm...
oh no
Good lord stop roleplaying as fictional characters
That's why the rewind exists to make the bullshit less bullshit
Isnt the 3ds version a port of the famicom version? it uses the famicom sound chip i believe
so cool, I loved kid icarus Uprising when it came for DS and I never played or saw the original
Dude I thought that drum fill at the beginning was rick roll
41:09 - MB: Do I look like I care if you turn him into an eggplant or not?!
Vinny playing NES is always so nice
18:24 funny noise
Kid İcarus can be very unforgiving at times but its gotta be one of my favourite NES games. Wasnt sure how I would feel about it because I mostly picked it out of curiosity after %100 ing uprising but I really loved it. The 3D Classics version is also great option especially for replaying.
Now, I'll always think Vinny is nuts for liking this game, but I wanna know how Nintendo updated everything, but made the sound effects and music worse. It's like when they did those Mario and Zelda re-releases for the GBA and added voice samples to every single action in the games.
39:54 timestamp funnies
1:03:37
now i dont like getting my shit stolen
Was going to make a smart-ass comment about Alex Kidd fans rising up.
Then I checked and found out there's a remake of the first game slated for this year. Thanks, Vinny.
Kid Icarus is a big reason I still use my Wii. So satisfied when I beat this game for the first time. If only the maps for the dungeons were functional like in the Gameboy version of this game.
1:07:09 i feel this
18:26 Bruce Lee entered the chat
I cant believe I heard someone in 2021 mention Speed Demos Archive
Its kinda late but: 8:22 these aren't scummy controls that's because you were standing on ice, yes this game has ice physics, if you are standing on ice you will slide a little and while moving if you jump your momentum in the air gets locked until you jump reaches the highest point.
So these aren't scummy controlls they're intended to be this way if you stand on ice.
You can bypass this behavior of the controls on ice if you don't move just jump and in the air move in the direction you need to go and if you land on ice again don't move and if you don't slide anymore repeat.
Ah yes, metroid -1
this is genuinely how i got into the metroid series lol
Those item thieves are just THE PITS. If you can't rewind, you grind to get money, you have such limited opportunities to buy upgraded equipment, and then *badaboom badabing* goodbye items! I played this game a ton as a kid, but it could definitely be improved. Uprising was also a great game, but I'd like to see something modern that's more like the original.
"We will get anniversary for Zelda, announcement, that is for sure" I'm not even sure about that one to be honest. My expectations are looooooow.
“We’re gonna have an anniversary for everyone’s favorite green-wearing character made by Miyamoto:
LUIGI!”
@@ArmoredChocoboLPs Year of Luigi 2...
Gotta admit, I like that idea
@@ArmoredChocoboLPs I mean link technically doesn't wear green anymore.
the Jar Jar CGI (along with the menagerie of Lucas digital creature additions) are distracting....but not on the same level...because even though Jar Jar is a "character," he is also practically a set piece, like the other digital creatures. Thank heaven that Jar Jar isn't an attempt to recreate a live actor...or ANYthing living. Carrie Fisher and Peter Cushing are different. There presence and role has immense implications and they are tied to their live actors. Recreating them will always be a different bag than making a funny flop alien.
They never had this game at the couple places we rented games when I was a bab. Maybe I saw it in a magazine but I never really knew about it until the 3DS version came out. Seems cool. Wish I had it when I was a kid.
1:25:36 really fucking got me.
opening sounds like the mario 1 bonus music
Kinda wished Arika & M2 paid more attention to 3D Classics. Even the stand-alone releases of Power Drift & Puyo Puyo 2 is locked to Japan with no English language built-in.
Kid Icarus is the most unfortunate IP Nintendo has. NES, Gameboy, then nothing till 3DS and that game got no love despite how awesome it was.
It sold over 1 million copies and still has a cult following. And I've seen tons of people say it's one of their all time favourite games (myself being one of them) I wouldn't say it got no love.
@@CeHee123 I meant from Nintendo
I’m a monkey
My condolences.
Does this mean we're getting a DEE EM CEE stream after Vinny beats this?
31:25 I never really thought about it before, but wouldn't it have been common for rental stores to erase any saves that were in their cartridges when they were returned? You don't really want kids firing up the games and having other kids' saves still on there. It's like rewinding the videos.
Some would clear saves, some wouldn't bother doing it much, possibly because the person in charge of doing it (possibly some part timing teen) wasn't made to do it.
As said they would usually have multiple cartridges too, and sometimes you could get one which had your old save.
YAY!
Imagine if he played the 3DS version without rewinds... Im not shaming him, I just think he's making it obvious this game might be slightly overrated by nostalgia.
i got the 3ds version recently. after watching this i dont think i'll be trying it out in earnest.
I wonder if there's any decent romhacks out there for this to just fix the difficulty a bit and make it less cheap.
Thats basically the 3DS version Vinny intended to play
@@laziestoldman oh, i thought he was. i guess i didn't catch the transition? if that's the case then cool, because i have it on 3ds and almost wasn't going to bother with it after watching this.
If you don’t play Kid Icarus the way I had to when I was 7 then you ain’t gam3r
Scrind.
Is it just me that can't really see the potential in Kid Icarus?
I admittedly never played it myself and haven't seen much footage of it other than the very beginning either so I don't know if it just gets something more unique later on so correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it basically a normal 2D platformer with a jump and short range projectile?
The only slightly unique feature that I can tell is the screen wrap around.
As I mentioned I've seen very little but I honestly don't even think the overall design seem particularly iconic like enemies, surroundings, items and such.
So when the gameplay is basic and there's not much that set it apart esthetically then why would anyone want to see them do something new with Kid Icarus?
What's special about it that they could take inspiration from to make a game that hasn't already been made?
Surely I must be missing something?
You must be under 30 years old.
@@ZeroFische Well barely at 29, how come? It's not like I said no games from this era have something about them that can translate into a modern era game.
@@DajuOnUA-cam You never played or seen Uprising, have you?
@@CarbyGuuGuu Are these cryptic comments about me somehow arguments for the opposite of what I said?
I honestly can't tell but if they are I don't think it's any more clear why Kid Icarus needs a revival.
@@DajuOnUA-cam Kid Icarus Uprising is completely different from the original, we don't give a shit about the 2D platformer Kid Icarus games.
I never got past Pandora in this game
I can't seem to find anything about "Dino Wars", or at least, not a game that sounds anything like what he's suggesting.
The game he's talking about is actually spelled "Dynowarz", because 80s XTREME spelling or something.
talk about relapsing
I hate them eggplant wizards as well
*Will Smith has logged in*
pog