3:03 sorry for making you miss cs, but thanks for answering my question about the Q vs E max! I'm still determined to be an E-max fan, so I tested it out in the practice tool and executed the same short burst nilah combo on a dummy 37 times at level 9 with Q max and lv 2 E, and another 37 times with E max and Q at lv 2. The items were Dblade, IE, and mortal reminder (50% crit) and the results were rather interesting. Q-maxing did indeed have a higher total damage than E-maxing, but only by about 2%. (2% more damage based on the calculated mean of 37 attempts) There was a 5% damage increase between highest individual attempts (Q-max peak was 5% higher than E-max peak), and a 15% damage increase between lowest individual attempts (Q max being higher), but the 2% mean difference shows those are outliers. These numbers and calculations are based on my own executions and are subject to flaw, but I'm still using them to propose my question: Is an estimated average of 2% overall damage increase really worth losing out on like 14 seconds of recharge time on your E? (And keep in mind, these numbers are implying you actually get an infinity edge and mortal reminder by level 9. Without completed items, Nilah's Q doesn't scale.)
@@LoLEnryu I don't have a vod of that particular test, but I reran the test 3 times and made that into a video for you. Each test used the same parameters and tested E-max and Q-max 20 times each. Idk if I can post links in comments, but it should be the only video on my channel. I think some of my initial numbers may've been a bit off since I was using ability cooldown reset and somtimes my Q would double buffer at the start and I didn't realize until afterwards. So this video shows testing done without the auto-cooldown setting so that sort of issue can't occur, the only error is if I miss an auto attack in the combo. I think I ran the test enough times that any minor errors on my end shouldn't really affect the numbers.
Hello, I apreciate your content a lot and an very hyped to see you back, I feel like I have been improving a lot with your videos. Quick question here since you're talking runes and build, do you still play your old old botrk + dd build sometimes or is it gone for good ? I am in a very low elo and I feel like going for a build that can self sustain is better for me, but I an not very confident in if it is better than crit build or not (it probably isn't tbh). Thanks in advance !
I think this build is not as good this season even though it is viable, I think bork is too nerfed unless you are playing a champion like irelia. For sustain, bloodthirster is gonna be better than bork if that answers your question.
You might've addressed this in a previous video, but what boots do you like to buy? I've seen plenty of people building defensive boots but I've had some good building berserkers.
It depends on situation, if I feel like I need to EQ to guarantee the Q to hit (ex. vs kalista) then I will do it, but if I'm trying to to max dmg I would just use each spell separately
I've been running Biscuit + Cosmic since S13 XD. It's really good for replacing Resolve runes secondary because Nilah either has too little base hp to work with, or the value of Resolve runes would come out too late for them to be valuable for Nilah. But with biscuit heals + hp and cosmic that enables more frequent barriers and flashes and an early refillable, you are basically allowed to play like Renekton/Warwick as Nilah. Enryu, today I have a few questions: 1. What are your thoughts on buying Doran's Blade + Cull every game? I'm a big Varus and Nilah player, and the amount of 1 hp duels I won with Doran + Cull wholesome combo are numerous. I don't buy Cull for the gold, I buy it for the on-attack 3 heal. This makes a world of difference in early-mid game imo cuz rn I'm convinced Doran's shield is inting on ANY botlaner, even Nilah. However, so far, this strat only really shines on Nilah and Varus cuz they have really good base tankiness, good early attack speed boost, and loved going for 1 hp duels. And I'll take winning 1 hp skirmishes over rushing my item spike because most of the time, my team is not human enough to enable me to use my early 1-2 item spike advantage anyway. 2. What are your thoughts on my build: attack speed cheese Nilah. It came to me in a dream. Nilah. Is. MELEE. Therefore she gets the FULL value of lethal tempo AND bork. The build is: Lethal tempo: presence of mind + bloodline + last stand + biscuit + cosmic. Doran's blade + cull + refillable + yuntal + bork + boots of choice + ldr + ie + tanky movespeed item. You may ask: why not just go Conqueror + collector + full crit like everybody else? The thing is, Nilah's base spell dmg got LACERATED last time. Lethality ain't scratchin' nobody. So what do we have left to rely on? Her attack speed boost from q. I got inspiration from my friend who was a Draven main. Basically, with lethal tempo on Nilah, you play like Kayle by attack speed cheesing pref lvl 2. And if the cheese/flip works and enemy dies or based. You go behind their tower with your support (if they are human) to threaten them to walk up, just like Draven. However, you don't do this every time and must consider a lot of things (support mana, jungle tracking, base for item, etc...). With Doran's blade + cull + presence of mind, this is most of the time possible to pull off. This is exceptionally good vs mages and adcs who were shivering at the thoughts of early melee scrappy fights (jinx, twitch, caitlyn, mf, vayne, etc..). With this strategy, you basically bypass most if not all of Nilah's weaknesses AND bully the lane bullies (though you better pray that your support plays like a psycho like you for this to work, though. If my support plays passive or locks in yuumi I just visit enemy nexus for sightseeing :) ). 3. I DESPISED playing against a good Millio player as Varus and Nilah. PLS HELP. I have a seething hatred of kiter champs ESPECIALLY MILLIO AHRI KENNEN SERAPHINE. What do I do against them? (4. Bonus: Do you remember the time Ksante was played support with dawncore because a shield bug that was going on back then? Well, back then Nilah also had a similar bug. But instead of dawncore, you just build eclipse bloodthirster ldr (I build greaves with this), and you get INFINITE shielding from your overhealing. You basically could tank a toplaner's entire kit, because once you get eclipse greaves bloodthirst (with doran cull ofc) they might as well FF. I scratched my head because why on earth is NO ONE milking this build when it was around. It was the most powerful and disgusting Nilah build PERIOD, Ap Varus 70% max hp type shit (I miss prime Ap Varus) ) Take all of this with a grain of salt because I'm still not Diamond XD. I'm a Varus main so please understand that I came up with the most crackhead builds and strats ever. Thank you for reading my Declaration of Independence text.
Hi thank you for sending in an essay and to answer your questions: 1. Cull is for scaling champs mainly and you *can* build it on nilah but she doesn't nearly get to auto as much as ranged champions for the health back since she is melee in a lane full of ranged champs. 2. Same reasoning for above, Nilah doesn't actually get to auto all that much because she is fighting champions which much higher range than her therefore she wants to end fights asap (one shot enemy basically) 3. You cannot do anything direct against players playing champs that directly counter Nilah because that's just how league works (Ex. u can't just ignore ryze point and click snare but you can use cleanse). Best way to play against these type of champs is to bait out their spells / play to enter fights from a flank or the side where the enemies have a harder time responding (basically pretend u are a khazix or talon in teamfights vs ranged carries) 4. Sorry I don't remember this.
Awesome content, im leaning more and more into trying to have nilah as one of my most played characters, having so much fun with her ^^ I'm guessing this was discussed in some of the videos but I don't remember When do you build Yuntal+collector and when just collector? I'm having issues with build paths sometimes and was curious what is your decision making. Is it based on what u exactly said in the video? so if u have for example Dirk + BF if u can afford collector you do collector->IE if not u go Yuntal->collector?
i honestly think it's still the same item, just a bit more value but you still have to build the BF Sword so the conditions to build it are still the same
why do you build AD items first rather than crit chance? I was under the impression that with how q scaled with crit it was always a good pickup. Great video btw
AD has always been the most important stat because crit amplifies her dmg that scales with AD. Because we max Q now after Riot nerfed her E too much, building a lot of AD is good since her Q has 110% AD scaling at max rank.
The runes are next to character portrait at the bottom middle for future reference but this game I had: Conqueror - Triumph - Bloodline - Cut Down Cosmic Insight - Biscuit Delivery
Brand & MF are champions that can run it down easily because he has no mobility, fights are definitely possible compared to a matchup like Cait Karma where u are forced to stand under tower. So basically dblade = possible to fight out the lane dshield = impossible to fight reliably
That sounds like a teamfight issue, you can try to be more patient during late game and only go into teamfights when enemies have used the spells that counter you (ex. Veigar cage)
3:03 sorry for making you miss cs, but thanks for answering my question about the Q vs E max!
I'm still determined to be an E-max fan, so I tested it out in the practice tool and executed the same short burst nilah combo on a dummy 37 times at level 9 with Q max and lv 2 E, and another 37 times with E max and Q at lv 2. The items were Dblade, IE, and mortal reminder (50% crit) and the results were rather interesting.
Q-maxing did indeed have a higher total damage than E-maxing, but only by about 2%. (2% more damage based on the calculated mean of 37 attempts)
There was a 5% damage increase between highest individual attempts (Q-max peak was 5% higher than E-max peak), and a 15% damage increase between lowest individual attempts (Q max being higher), but the 2% mean difference shows those are outliers.
These numbers and calculations are based on my own executions and are subject to flaw, but I'm still using them to propose my question:
Is an estimated average of 2% overall damage increase really worth losing out on like 14 seconds of recharge time on your E?
(And keep in mind, these numbers are implying you actually get an infinity edge and mortal reminder by level 9. Without completed items, Nilah's Q doesn't scale.)
Don't worry, missing cs is my own problem, but the math is quite interesting. Do you happen to have a vod / recording of the test?
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I don't have a vod of that particular test, but I reran the test 3 times and made that into a video for you. Each test used the same parameters and tested E-max and Q-max 20 times each. Idk if I can post links in comments, but it should be the only video on my channel.
I think some of my initial numbers may've been a bit off since I was using ability cooldown reset and somtimes my Q would double buffer at the start and I didn't realize until afterwards. So this video shows testing done without the auto-cooldown setting so that sort of issue can't occur, the only error is if I miss an auto attack in the combo. I think I ran the test enough times that any minor errors on my end shouldn't really affect the numbers.
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I just started watching your vids today so this upload is a pleasant surprise.
Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it!
Hello, I apreciate your content a lot and an very hyped to see you back, I feel like I have been improving a lot with your videos.
Quick question here since you're talking runes and build, do you still play your old old botrk + dd build sometimes or is it gone for good ?
I am in a very low elo and I feel like going for a build that can self sustain is better for me, but I an not very confident in if it is better than crit build or not (it probably isn't tbh).
Thanks in advance !
I think this build is not as good this season even though it is viable, I think bork is too nerfed unless you are playing a champion like irelia. For sustain, bloodthirster is gonna be better than bork if that answers your question.
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Ok thanks a lo, that was exactly my question !
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Do u think yuntal will be the defualt buy next patch when it gets buffed for the 4th time?
Great vid as always ❤
Can’t wait for the guide 😊
Not sure yet but I think most likely it will still be a buy only if u can afford BF Sword early
@@LoLEnryu Thanks Alot!!
You might've addressed this in a previous video, but what boots do you like to buy? I've seen plenty of people building defensive boots but I've had some good building berserkers.
Just started playing nilah after quitting jungle, thank god i found your channel
Welcome!
when all in on a champion with nilah do u always use q with ur e so it looks like a dash or do you wait for your e to land then q?
It depends on situation, if I feel like I need to EQ to guarantee the Q to hit (ex. vs kalista) then I will do it, but if I'm trying to to max dmg I would just use each spell separately
I've been running Biscuit + Cosmic since S13 XD. It's really good for replacing Resolve runes secondary because Nilah either has too little base hp to work with, or the value of Resolve runes would come out too late for them to be valuable for Nilah. But with biscuit heals + hp and cosmic that enables more frequent barriers and flashes and an early refillable, you are basically allowed to play like Renekton/Warwick as Nilah. Enryu, today I have a few questions:
1. What are your thoughts on buying Doran's Blade + Cull every game? I'm a big Varus and Nilah player, and the amount of 1 hp duels I won with Doran + Cull wholesome combo are numerous. I don't buy Cull for the gold, I buy it for the on-attack 3 heal. This makes a world of difference in early-mid game imo cuz rn I'm convinced Doran's shield is inting on ANY botlaner, even Nilah. However, so far, this strat only really shines on Nilah and Varus cuz they have really good base tankiness, good early attack speed boost, and loved going for 1 hp duels. And I'll take winning 1 hp skirmishes over rushing my item spike because most of the time, my team is not human enough to enable me to use my early 1-2 item spike advantage anyway.
2. What are your thoughts on my build: attack speed cheese Nilah. It came to me in a dream. Nilah. Is. MELEE. Therefore she gets the FULL value of lethal tempo AND bork. The build is: Lethal tempo: presence of mind + bloodline + last stand + biscuit + cosmic. Doran's blade + cull + refillable + yuntal + bork + boots of choice + ldr + ie + tanky movespeed item. You may ask: why not just go Conqueror + collector + full crit like everybody else? The thing is, Nilah's base spell dmg got LACERATED last time. Lethality ain't scratchin' nobody. So what do we have left to rely on? Her attack speed boost from q. I got inspiration from my friend who was a Draven main. Basically, with lethal tempo on Nilah, you play like Kayle by attack speed cheesing pref lvl 2. And if the cheese/flip works and enemy dies or based. You go behind their tower with your support (if they are human) to threaten them to walk up, just like Draven. However, you don't do this every time and must consider a lot of things (support mana, jungle tracking, base for item, etc...). With Doran's blade + cull + presence of mind, this is most of the time possible to pull off. This is exceptionally good vs mages and adcs who were shivering at the thoughts of early melee scrappy fights (jinx, twitch, caitlyn, mf, vayne, etc..). With this strategy, you basically bypass most if not all of Nilah's weaknesses AND bully the lane bullies (though you better pray that your support plays like a psycho like you for this to work, though. If my support plays passive or locks in yuumi I just visit enemy nexus for sightseeing :) ).
3. I DESPISED playing against a good Millio player as Varus and Nilah. PLS HELP. I have a seething hatred of kiter champs ESPECIALLY MILLIO AHRI KENNEN SERAPHINE. What do I do against them?
(4. Bonus: Do you remember the time Ksante was played support with dawncore because a shield bug that was going on back then? Well, back then Nilah also had a similar bug. But instead of dawncore, you just build eclipse bloodthirster ldr (I build greaves with this), and you get INFINITE shielding from your overhealing. You basically could tank a toplaner's entire kit, because once you get eclipse greaves bloodthirst (with doran cull ofc) they might as well FF. I scratched my head because why on earth is NO ONE milking this build when it was around. It was the most powerful and disgusting Nilah build PERIOD, Ap Varus 70% max hp type shit (I miss prime Ap Varus) )
Take all of this with a grain of salt because I'm still not Diamond XD. I'm a Varus main so please understand that I came up with the most crackhead builds and strats ever.
Thank you for reading my Declaration of Independence text.
Hi thank you for sending in an essay and to answer your questions:
1. Cull is for scaling champs mainly and you *can* build it on nilah but she doesn't nearly get to auto as much as ranged champions for the health back since she is melee in a lane full of ranged champs.
2. Same reasoning for above, Nilah doesn't actually get to auto all that much because she is fighting champions which much higher range than her therefore she wants to end fights asap (one shot enemy basically)
3. You cannot do anything direct against players playing champs that directly counter Nilah because that's just how league works (Ex. u can't just ignore ryze point and click snare but you can use cleanse). Best way to play against these type of champs is to bait out their spells / play to enter fights from a flank or the side where the enemies have a harder time responding (basically pretend u are a khazix or talon in teamfights vs ranged carries)
4. Sorry I don't remember this.
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Awesome content, im leaning more and more into trying to have nilah as one of my most played characters, having so much fun with her ^^
I'm guessing this was discussed in some of the videos but I don't remember When do you build Yuntal+collector and when just collector? I'm having issues with build paths sometimes and was curious what is your decision making.
Is it based on what u exactly said in the video? so if u have for example Dirk + BF if u can afford collector you do collector->IE if not u go Yuntal->collector?
If I can afford collector on my base then I will go collector and turn the BF Sword into IE yes
@LoLEnryu understood, thank you
Thoughts on the yun tal arrow buff for next patch? Do you think it makes it a better buy than collector first?
i honestly think it's still the same item, just a bit more value but you still have to build the BF Sword so the conditions to build it are still the same
Another within 24hrs what a treat!!
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Enjoying the Awesome Nilah videos, keep it up
i would love to see a video were you lose lane just to see what you do
Will try to keep in this mind for future videos
who do you ban as nilah caitlyn?
Do you not go Essence reaver anymore?
Not really anymore
@@LoLEnryu That's sad, I really liked that Nilah build, I feel like she's so mana hungry
why u dont stream
60% not enough consistent time during the day
40% lazy
More please, I love your vidz 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
will try my best! thanks for the support
13:40 Bro was the enemy team
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@@LoLEnryu sadge the game ended so early :(
Satisfactory level 2 with Nilah
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Shocked Nilah.jpg goes hard
agreed
why do you build AD items first rather than crit chance? I was under the impression that with how q scaled with crit it was always a good pickup. Great video btw
AD has always been the most important stat because crit amplifies her dmg that scales with AD. Because we max Q now after Riot nerfed her E too much, building a lot of AD is good since her Q has 110% AD scaling at max rank.
What were the runes?
The runes are next to character portrait at the bottom middle for future reference but this game I had:
Conqueror - Triumph - Bloodline - Cut Down
Cosmic Insight - Biscuit Delivery
The gameplays I was waitng for...
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Why did you choose to play doran's blade instead of doran's shield whereas u know mf and brand pokes a lot?
Brand & MF are champions that can run it down easily because he has no mobility, fights are definitely possible compared to a matchup like Cait Karma where u are forced to stand under tower. So basically dblade = possible to fight out the lane
dshield = impossible to fight reliably
@LoLEnryu alr ty !
OMG! Enryu blessings
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Yaaaay more content!
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I love nilah but I struggle to play her late game
That sounds like a teamfight issue, you can try to be more patient during late game and only go into teamfights when enemies have used the spells that counter you (ex. Veigar cage)
Pleaaaaaase be consistent this time
will try my best 🫡
you lost so many minions at the beginning and still based with 16 mf had 11 dont be afraid to lose some minions its better then dying
agreed
Trying to figure out what the "c" in Jax's name would mean (AD比女朋友好c)
Noooice!
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thresh 😋
thresh played really well