Rangers doomed by rough third period and simply can't score... is there any hope for Game 6??
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- Опубліковано 29 тра 2024
- A rough third period that sees a poor start, a bad powerplay, a soft goal and a questionable decision leads to a 3-2 loss in Game 5.
-Rangers lose control of the game in the third period
-Brilliant overall, Igor Shesterkin lets in one that he'd like to have back. Calling out the Rangers to pick him up
-Is there any hope for Game 6? Any lineup changes forthcoming?
-Get Alexis Lafreniere on the top powerplay, double-shift him and Artemi Panarin with Mika Zibanejad and Chris Kreider.
Episode 1,080. Intro song is "Leave the Lights On" by Passafire.
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The Rangers don't have the balls to play the rookie Zac Jones which they should definitely do. He's healthy and mark my word, he will be playing regularly next year for the Rangers. So why wait?
Agreed. But say Peter Laviolette, not "the Rangers." It's Peter Laviolette who has bungled this roster from Game 1 against Washington, and nobody else.
Jones definitely should be in Trouba is horrible ( hopefully he’s done next year) and Fox is playing hurt.
Do u think things have been out of wack since chytle came back
Agree with the goalie pull decision and why dress Rempe for only 2 minutes ice time…..I’m still keeping the faith for a return to MSG…go Rangers!
Because Laviolette is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. A successful regular season coach who benefitted from a magical run by a rookie goaltender and an upstart opponent in the SCF, whose "go to" scorer was Fernando Pisani. Think about how Hall Of Famer Phil Housley is a member of his coaching staff and somehow Erik Gustafsson is playing over Jones or Ruhwedel.
Ive been saying for the last 3 games that the Rangers need fresh fast legs on Def. If Rempe is only gonna play 2mins, then dress 7D with Zac Jones. Keep the D fresh, adds a faster and still responsible D-man to rotate in
@@albie21121 It's a fair point but it appears that the head coach is set in his ways, so he'll run out 56 and 96 once again, thus, 6, 5, and 17 will remain in the press box.
I have 0 hope left. If the rangers somehow win it will just be a miracle. My expectations this even goes 7 are gone
Same. We look like we gave up and just don't want to get hit anymore
The Rangers need some magic and some heroics like they had in Games 2 and 3. They can't outright beat the Panthers just playing their game. They need something again like what Goodrow and Lafreniere did then and what Kreider did in Carolina in Game 6. It doesn't matter who it is, it can be Igor getting a shutout. But that's the only thing in my mind that can win them Game 6 or the series.
And yes, I don't know when this "pull the goalie with 3 minutes to go" trend started. I feel like I haven't seen it that much before this season. But I've seen this a lot from many teams now and it seems like it is extremely risky and almost guarantees an ENG. And of course I've seen what the Rangers did, which is scoring after they already allowed an ENG. I haven't liked this pretty much every time I've seen it. This is Game 6, the season is not on the line yet. It's bad, but they are being too desperate and giving the Panthers too much of a chance to just end the game. Mentally, I think it might make a team more relaxed also with an empty net for that long, thinking that they have plenty of time to tie it still, while the more likely thing is that the other team has plenty of time to score the ENG.
If they are going to play Rempe - then play him - it's inconceivable to dress this guy in the game if you're not confident enough in him to roll the lines....Embarrassing. He was in the game for 2 and a half minutes! Ridiculous.
Way too early to pull the goalie
Yeah nowadays goalies get pulled much earlier. Stupid analytics drives every decision.
I really thought that shorty by Kreider would be the turning point.
only way they can score is shorthanded. pretty dire rn.
Igor has played heroic, but many of the top rangers are soft and undisciplined and simply can't hang with the cats. He deserves better. 🤦♂️💔
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Hey Jon been a loyal listener have not missed an episode last year. This is def my favorite rangers podcast. Wondering a few things … I know trouba gets a lot of hate, personally I like him. He has his flaws for sure but as we both know trouba has a ton of blocked shots. Do you think if he was with miller last night he would have blocked that shot that snuck by Igor… after all Schneider ( who I am a huge fan of as well excellent future! ) is still young and trouba may have positioned him self better to block the shot ? Secondly what are your thoughts if moving Krieder to the second line ( technically our first line lol) with laf & tro …) since the second line is taking all the shots could it be wise to have him there. Thanks again love all your content. Normally I just listen in the car so this is my first video I watched lol
You're absolutely right too early to pull the goalie.You have to see how the game is going
The difference in this series is the PP, end of story. Four 1goal games and they're 1-16 on the PP. They don't have to be gangbusters on the PP, FLA's PK is great. But just 2 more, myabe 3 PPG's max and this series is diff. Its ashame
They should've had one at the end of the third period of Game Four, eh? It may not have changed the outcome, but at the least, the game would have continued longer into OT.
It's been the January Rangers since game 4 with Carolina. PP & PK failing. I hope they can turn it around but I think the time is up for this core. Why would another playoff run with Zibanejad, Trouba, Panarin, Kakko and Kreider turn out differently than it has the last three years? Drury boxed himself in with all the NMC's. Time to buyout/renogiate/waive/do whatever it takes to get clutch players in the lineup.
Fire Laviolette 😂😂😂
This series is not almost over a bounce here or there and we would have won already. Yes we need to score more but every game has gone down to the wire which means it's anybodies series and Igor has out played thier guy by miles. I still believe just NO more Wheeler, he was awful during the season and horrible the other night, I have no idea why this guy is on this team. I agree I hate they pull the goalie much to early especially against this team.
Without Igor it’s a sweep Florida is better
Wheeler was NOT horrible in Game Four. What game were you watching?????
Wheeler should be playing over Jack Roslovic, as should Jonny Brodzinski for that matter.
@@10.11.9 I was watching the one that he was so slow he had to hook someone and lose the game, he has been much too slow all year and should never again be on the ice. He was a good player but it's over now. Roslovic is no bargain but he skates faster backwards than wheeler does forwards. His career is over .
@@michaelgiovani2600 Wheeler has never been a speed merchant, even during his prime in Winnipeg. Wheeler was not the cause of that hooking penalty and you know it. Besides Roslovic being faster than Wheeler, what else does he bring to the table? A: Absolutely nada. Zero. Zilch. Soft, perimeter player who's prone to defensive lapses and often gives up on pucks and plays uninspired.
Wheeler is the grittier player, smarter player, and defensively more aware. And let's face it, even at 38 is still a better playmaker than Jack Roslovic.
Bottom line: You want Wheeler to sit? Fine. Just don't tell me Roslovic is playing over him, because he's not a better player than him, nor will he ever be.
@@10.11.9 I am just still angry I guess I don't like to pick on anyone, buddy I am still confidant believe it or not but will admit they have outmuscled us big time. Maybe we will get a few bounces and Bread will be Bread. They are absolutely relentless.
Are you seriously saying Igor should have made that save on the second goal. Are you serious bro?
Reminds me of the Lundqvist era. Great goaltending, great regular season, soft in the playoffs.
Injuries caught up to them in 2015 -- otherwise they had no business losing to TB in the Conference Finals.
If the Rangers ever want to win a cup they have to break up the core, get rid of either 1 or 2 of Panarin, Kreider or Zib, 1 or 2 have to go the Rangers are never winning a cup with a soft core group of so called top guys I seen enough to know if they dont get lucky bounces and Igor doesn't pitch a shutout they cant beat this team they are too big and physical for the Rangers they have been outplayed every game this series playing that rush finess style
#10 has absolutely
@@dennismaxwell165 Target 10 and his 4 GWG previous to this series over Kleenex-soft 93.
Mika Zibanejad is here until the end of the decade. He's not going anywhere. Same with Chris Kreider. Artemi Panarin will be the first to go but oddly he's the most talented out of the three.
Unbelievable that Zac Jones hasn't played at all during the playoffs. And, for the second year in a row, Panarin has disappeared when it all counts. I feel bad for Shesterkin....another elite goalie's talents being wasted, saving us throughout, and the rest of the team fails to produce. Troch and Laffy are the only ones that are playing like it matters.
I wouldn't say Panarin has "disappeared," but he has not shown that he wants it as much as Barkov, Reinhart, Verhaeghe, Bennett, etc. Ditto for the half Swede.
Time to dig REAL deep. We need some more puck luck and STOP THE DAMN MAN DEFENSE!!!!!! The fact Lav keeps playing man when he CLEARLY sees our guys are confused and disjointed is actually mind numbing to me. Playing a team like Florida in man to man is insanity and asking to lose.
Do you know, I actually thought this was the best game we played. Lol
Florida has been able to shut down Panarin, Mica, Kreider. Florida defense creates this wall the Rangers cannot penetrate and they get frustrated and start to do stupid things to the point of mistakes. Sunday is a due or die and a disappointment for the fans if they don't win these next two games. This has been the trend of this team to play as though they are on a cliff and they cannot get back down.
What on earth is Gustafson thinking? you know your team is having trouble scoring ... why are you gang tackling mikkola screwing up a 5 on 3 chance? they are failing physically and mentally in this series.
Never liked him on our team. He had a good stretch when fox was out but other than that idk if he’s anything special. To not get the 5 on 3 proves he’s an idiot
Seven teams in five seasons. That should tell you everything.
@@The_Rat_Pack_Dayz Yeah, that was November when many an AHL player have looked like they belonged.
Jon you are correct,Igor has been tremendous,you are right,time they bail him out, Let's Go Rangers,you can win 2 in a row with Igor,make it happen!!! ... ... And No,I think they 'pulled the Goalie' at the perfect time. Many factors,you must consider what defenders your opponent is going with,At the end of the day you are betting
on getting a real chance at your opponents Net, and you Must try NOT to lose possession. If you do it with over 2 minutes,then you know that if you don't lose possession you are going to get a couple real chances at the net. So that is why most NHL Coaches do it that way! So the main point. It's always a big gamble,but worth it!
I am baffled by the D down low coverage and unforced turnovers. You learn as s peewee defenceman that you are the last guy to leave the zone after getting control of the puck. How do guy keep getting behind our d man...specially fox and his crash test dummy partner. This is totally unfathomable as fan and former coach. And why is k Polk always turned the wrong way and can't maintain gap control these are 101 things for a defenceman.
Series is far from over. Rangers in 7. We’re still going to the cup. This team is too good and I’m not buying into the media narrative of saying the panthers have outplayed the Rangers the entire series. We should’ve won last game and made it 3 consecutive games in OT…. The missed calls have been actually sickening officiating has been awful for rangers and rangers fans. We are making them play 1 goal games which we could easily have won today too and finished the series already but unfortunately Igor can’t steal games because our offense isn’t producing enough for him to do so even though he’s standing on his head. Idk. This series is still far from over. Rangers will get the game 6 and force 7. Rangers in 7. LGR.
We have been outplayed there is no media spin to it, it's just a fact.
Is Messier playing?
@@mariobuttino6095 Brian Leetch? Alex Kovalev? Walt Tkaczuk?
Justa, I love you brother, love your energy and positive vibes, but it’s going to have be Hell on Earth in order for our Boys to overcome these Panthers….
They are so good, in all facets of the game, but so are We, just like Jon said, this is it, it’s right there and there’s only one thing left to do….
“GIVE IT EVERYTHING YOU FRICKEN GOT!!!”
LGR….
Seriously?! Game 6 will be a huge embarrassment because Rangers are defeated before game even begins
The Panthers are a better playoff team that has outplayed the Rangers in almost every period of this series. We're extremely fortunate to still be in it. The Rangers are banged up pretty good, too. I never expected this team to win the Cup so I'm not upset about where they are. And we don't know what's going to happen - they could surprise us and force a game 7 and even win it.
Florida just looks like a better team. It’s so frustrating watching NY over pass, bad passes.. and turning the puck over..
I’m sick Jon….like we all are.
There's hope, but like talk, each is cheap. You cannot win the Stanley Cup with Adam Fox, D.J. Zibanejad and "Captain" Jacob Trouba among your core players. And a coach who's in love with a defenseman who gave the puck away FOUR times in the first period, alone. Who is really coaching this team? Is it that midget Chris Drury a la Glen Sather? If not, somebody explain how Zac Jones and/or Chad Ruhwedel have yet to play over Erik Gustafsson, who I view as the worst Rangers d-man dressed for the playoffs since Bruce Driver in 1996. Before you say Patrik Nemeth, remember that Gerard Gallant had the common sense to send him to the press box before the Penguins series had concluded.
Sadly Erik Gustafsson is playing better than K'andre Miller and Jacob Trouba in this series. I agree with you that Zac Jones should be playing to help out for an injured Adam Fox who is skating on one leg and Ryan Lindgren who always has multiple injuries.
@@1189paris Riiiiiiight. Four, count 'em, FOUR TURNOVERS in the first period last night. Negates what would have been a long 5 on 3 power play and misses a point blank shot by four feet in the third after excellent down low work on the cycle by Wennberg/Kakko.
Minus the two penalties, Miller was by far the Rangers best defenseman last night. He and Schneider as a pair were significantly better than 23-55 and 8-56.
Jones for Gustafsson, not Fox. (I don't like Fox either). 56 is the weakest link on the team, followed by 96.
Call up Othmann. The Rangers got nothing to lose here. Their bott6 other then Goodrow is trash at scoring. Why not? Backs against the wall, its do or die. Need some scoring prowess in the bott6. Do it
1) Why was Blake Wheeler on the ice in game 4? Old, not great during the regular season, slow, now coming off a really bad injury, rusty and hasn’t played in months, and the game you bring him back in is game 4 of the ECF? They deserve to lose just bc of that. 2)Nobody is really talking about out the real turning point of the game. It’s when the Rangers were on the power play and Panthers take another penalty which would of made it a 5 on 3 PowerPlay with a very good chance of the Rangers scoring and getting their PowerPlay out of a funk and most importantly, go up 2-0. However, Erik Gustafsson takes a horrible penalty “protecting” Shesterkin. That is a horrible undisciplined penalty which could have swung the whole momentum and outcome of the game. P.S. I said it last year on this channel. Panarin is soft, and no where to be found in the big moments. If I have to see him wiff on another puck I’m gonna loose it. Every time he goes to pass or shoot the puck he misses and he his horrible under pressure. Panarin is at his best with time and space which you’re not getting that against the Panthers. Pack it up Rangers. This one is over.
Panarin played better tonight. If the Rangers somehow win this series I do feel he could have a great performance in the Stanley Cup Finals.
Wheeler wasn't on the ice in Game 5.
@@10.11.9true. I made the correction. Game 4
@@1189parisunfortunately Panarin won’t have that chance. He can’t play better than bad and get a pass. He needs to be great. This is the Stanley Cup for the Rangers. These are the two best teams in my opinion. I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think the Rangers are going to Stanley Cup
Florida is simply the better team
I disagree. The Panthers coaching staff is doing a better job in exploiting the Rangers.
Absolutely spot on about last three minutes. As coach, you are showing no confidence in your players, which now have to worry about playing defense cause there is so much time left. Limit the goalie pull to the last around 30 sec and throw everything at it.
No shame Rangers getting outplayed by a better team
30 years since we won anything, such a big club and this constantly happens. Rangers will be eliminated next game we don’t change anything up, it’s easy to read our play
They gave away so much young talent and draft picks to win that Cup in 94 that it hobbled the franchise for a decade plus afterward. 2014 was our best chance, and I really think they would have won that final series if not for some horrendous officiating that screwed them in game 1 and 3.
@@humanbeing2420 2015 team was better.
@@10.11.9 What makes you say that? That team lost in the ECF to Tampa. The 2014 team made the Finals.
Every thing about NYC sucks. First the Knicks now the Rangers need to lose like the loser city they play in.
"No Quit In New York." 😆
For the first time in my life, I wouldn't feel sad if the Rangers were eliminated. I hate New York City. Rangers are the last bastion of anything that I once loved about it.
The Sunrise Panthers are just better than the Rangers.
And better coached.
Rangers need a shutout. Out BH.
We are NOT Carolina. We’re better than that. Ranger will loose game 6.
First order of business this summer: Trade 93 to whoever can afford his overpriced salary and take whatever you can get for him. Then look for a twentysomething winger, preferably big, fast and North America-trained and send the bagel boy packing. Wennberg can sign with Västra Frölunda and Jupiter Jack can sign a multi-year deal with some basement dweller like San Jose. If I were Kaapo Kakko, I'd request a trade before the draft. Some rebuilding team will be more than happy to give him PP and PK responsibility. Then find out what it will take to snatch 87 from Pittsburgh. He's got two strong years left in the tank and even at 37 is a significant upgrade over the half Swede.
Lmao
Yeah let’s trade our entire team and go out and get a 40 year old Crosby lol. You’re stupid
Yes - let's get another legendary goal scorer so long past his prime that nobody can even remember his prime. The Rangers haven't had enough of that in their history.
@@humanbeing2420 Past his prime? Sidney Crosby carried his team on his back down the stretch. Do you even watch the NHL?
Pulling igor at that pt when we hadnt been able to control the puck all period was some real dumb shit from laviolette
No chance of winning game 6. The team doesn’t have the character or the actual BALLS to fight their asses off
None of the Swedes on this team do, that's a fact. Same applies to 96.
????????????????? this is the way to get more offense without losing defence foxy and trouba
gus and lindy schneids and zac
kreids mika and laff
bread troch and kappo
cuylle wenn and rosy
the piece de resistance is rempe goody and kee
no holding fil and woo
rempe needs not worry so much with kee holding back
laff could change kreids and mika rather than they change any other player rosy fil wood kappo or bringing mess back ha ha
this changes everything for the better !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your Zibanrjad should be embarrassed... the effort he gave to defend on Bennett's empty netter was disgraceful. Shishterkin's talent is wasted on this team... not unlike Swayman to Boston
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Champs at given up,Messier wouldn't accept this B.S.
He accepted it in '92, '93 and '95 through '97, so you never know.
@@humanbeing2420 Messier melted down defensively during Game Four of the second round series in Pittsburgh, 1992. The Rangers were up 2-1 in the series and had a lead going into the third and let it all slip away. There was no way they were going to lose to Boston or Chicago that year. The Stanley Cup was theirs, but then Francis and Jagr took over the series, thanks in part to the poor play of No. 11.
1993: Leetch breaks his ankle late in the season. Season over.
1995, 1997: Messier and Co. no match for Legion of Doom (Flyers bullied their way to winning 8/9).
@@10.11.9 My point is that it's silly to think NYR would win if we only had Messier there. Sure, he was a great leader, and capable of doing great things, but more often than not he failed to bring the team a championship. I'm not knocking Messier here - I love him - It's just the way things are. One guy can't Will a team to victory every time.
@@10.11.9 That Pittsburgh team was awesome though. They'd won the Cup the previous season and after beating the Rangers in 6 they swept Boston and Chicago to win it again. Then they crushed the '93 regular season before losing to the Islanders in the playoffs...
@@10.11.9 '92-'93 was a total disaster of a season for reasons beyond the Leetch injury. Messier got Neil Smith to fire Roger Nielsen halfway through the season with the team at about .500, but they collapsed at the end of the season, losing 13 of their last 16 games.
Nope.
Rangers should just concede game 6 and save themselves the trouble of a wasted trip to Florida.
I hear Mika enjoys walks on the beach and stops to take pictures with fans.