Installing a BLTouch on the Tevo Tornado
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Get the Tevo Tornado from GearBest Here (Affiliate Link):
www.gearbest.c...
BLTouch:
www.amazon.com...
Dupont Connectors:
www.amazon.com...
JST Connectors:
www.amazon.com...
Ribbon Cable:
www.amazon.com...
Crimping tool:
www.amazon.com...
zip ties:
www.amazon.com...
BLTouch Mount (Don't Forget to install the springs):
www.thingivers...
**See Important Section Below about Firmware**
Marlin Firmware with BLTouch (Double click the Tornado.ino file to open the firmware in the Arduino IDE) - Baudrate 250000 :
www.dropbox.co...
****ATTENTION - IMPORTANT*****
The Firmware above is the firmware that Tevo released on their Facebook Group around the same time that they released this printer. However, I have had some issues where the Z offset settings don't seem to work correctly for some reason. It's not 100% of the time, but enough to where it gets annoying... So, I modified a version of my CR-10 firmware to have the same Splash Screen and settings, and I've been using it successfully on my Tevo Tornado for about a month. If you want to be on the safe side, go with this firmware, Otherwise, if you run into any problems with the other firmware that just don't make sense, you should probably try this firmware instead.
www.dropbox.co...
If for some reason, the above link goes down again, I've uploaded the zip file to the Tevo Tornado Facebook group.
Arduino Website:
www.arduino.cc...
U8Glib download:
code.google.co...
BLTouch Facebook Group:
/ bltouch
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![[Устарело] BLTouch. Стоит ли покупать? Установка, прошивка, калибровка. На примере Tevo Tornado](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/oJgKQKbN8nE/mqdefault.jpg)
Worked fine for me, I had to adjust the "prime nozzle" script-line because I jammed my first BLtouch into the leveling screw and destroyed the probe. Trust me you don't want that. Now with my (2nd) BLtouch sensor it works flawless.
Code is now;
G28 ; Home all axes
G29 ; Auto bed leveling
G1 Z5 F3000 ; lift
G1 X90 Y2 F1500 ; avoid binder clips
G1 Z0.2 F3000 ; get ready to prime
G92 E0 ; reset extrusion distance
G1 x120 E10 F600 ; prime nozzle
G1 X150 F5000 ; quick wipe
I wasn't sure this whole 3D printing thing was going to work out. I couldn't tell what was happening and why it didn't want to stick prints to the bed, but thanks to this video and the BL Touch, it is over there working away perfectly now. Thanks for such a detailed tutorial. I have the newer verison of the Tevo Tornado which has a little different wiring diagram. If you google "mks maker L bl touch diagram" you will see a wiring diagram for the MKS Maker L board on Google images for the Tevo Tornado 2018 (gold) verison. Thanks!
I had no clue how this worked before, but now I’m going to try and install one... thanks!
This was a great help! Pro tip though, when removing wires from the connectors, use a needle. Puts less pressure on the tab and less chance of cutting yourself. Took me a bit, but I got my BLTouch working all thanks to you!
ever figure it out im experiencing the same shit
for those of you wanting to do this tevo aliexpress sells the antlabs bl-touch for the black widow!! it comes with long enough wires so you don't have to crimp anything
When crimping a terminal with a hand tool - Do Not fold over the metal tabs with a needle nose - simply insert the terminal in the crimp tool, insert your wire and crimp it (yes it takes a bit of coordination). the tool will curl the tabs inward in an "M" shape. I work for a wire harness manufacturer and this is going to give you the best result for longevity (in our manufacturing setting we have very strict tolerances on how tight that crimp needs to be. +/- 0.002") . If you've already folded over the tabs and are concerned about it - you can solder over the crimp and you'll be ok.
Nice job! Very thorough and complete. I am actually considering adding one to my Tornado now!
I did this recently and everything worked perfectly. Thanks for posting!
Nice video!. I'm thinking hard about getting the Tornado. I'll have to sell one of my other printers to make room.
Really great job clearly explaining all the steps involved.
Outstanding instructional video! Definitely one of the best I have seen on YT.
by far the best tot ive watched in a long time!! i have his firmware running flawlessly! also thanks to him i now have proper jst /dupont crimpers lol
you should try the engineer PA-09 model then. they are a dream. make those crimpers look like chubby fat fingers
Damn, I really want a 3d printer. Very informative video. Great job explaining everything.
I'll wait for the next updated version of this printer before making a purchase.
Very insightful and useful, I will definitely be doing this when my printer arrives. Thanks for the awesome content and keep it coming, could you do a review tornado cuts setup video?
Thanks for the feedback :) Sorry, not sure what you mean. a review tornado cuts setup video?
Remain Indoors sorry I meant cura, it got autocorrected
Following the link I got marlin 1.o is this correct and is there an updated 2.0 version for this video......Great video it worked great!!!
Thanks, glad to hear it. The story of this video is, I bought this printer as soon as they first started selling them. Before it showed up, on the facebook group, the Tevo company released the actual firmware that was installed on the printer at the time. I modified that firmware and that's what's in the video description.
I haven't kept up with newer versions of this printer, so they may have made changes since then, and/or there may be newer versions of the firmware that could be modified to work with the BLTouch. I haven't looked much into it. If I get a chance to at some point, I may make an update video, but I've never had any problems with the original firmware, so I haven't had much reason to.
Anyway, best of luck with it.
@@RemainIndoors thank you so much for your reply. at this very moment I am installing a new fan shroud I liked your set up so much I just cut out a part of the bltouch mount so I could still us it
Ça fonctionne super bien, excellent tutoriel. Merci beaucoup.
Good and comprehensive video, many thanks! This comment edited; can now confirm firmware linked to above DOES work with Makerbase v1.6 - my switch wires weren't fully home...
You should definitely include the fact that there are better crimpers, and also that you used longer screws for your mount than the stock screws. that threw me off, i know it probably threw others off as well.
yep, still searching for the correct size, do you know what you used?
At 9:52. You make the calculations for the offset in the comments, yet don't put them in. Care to explain? Are you assuming we replace those values? I did that and got a compile error.
Excellent Guide, thank you.
I'm actually still waiting for my Tornado to arrive, but I downloaded the latest Arduino IDE, the U8Glib and your version of the Firmware, set up the IDE as you described, but did a compile only (as I don't yet have the printer), but got the following warnings:
/Users/steve/Documents/Arduino/libraries/U8glib/utility/u8g_rot.c:48:1: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
u8g_dev_t u8g_dev_rot = { u8g_dev_rot_dummy_fn, NULL, NULL };
/Users/steve/Documents/Arduino/libraries/U8glib/utility/u8g_rot.c:48:1: warning: (near initialization for 'u8g_dev_rot.dev_fn')
Would you know if these are anything to be concerned over?
thanks, I don't get that error specifically when I compile. you may want to try with the 1.8.3 version of the Arduino IDE and u8glib v1.18.1 version for Arduino here: bintray.com/olikraus/u8glib/Arduino - those are what I have installed on my pc. Also make sure you have Arduino/Genuino Mega or Mega 2560 board selected from Tools - Boards and ATMega2560 selected from the Tools - Processors menu. - if it's just a warning, but still compiles successfully, it's likely that it would still work, but if you want to be on the safe side, the above versions should work without fault.
Remain Indoors
Thank you for getting back to me.
I did select the recommended options, and when I tried compiling a second time, I didn’t get the warnings, but when I reloaded the IDE I did get them on first compile and okay thereafter. A bit odd! I will however download 1.8.3 as suggested and give that a spin.
Thanks for the advice, and really appreciate the video, it’s very well made and very helpful. It must have taken quite a while to make.
Hi, I removed and reloaded u8glib, which seems to have fixed the issue, and the using V1.8.5 Arduino IDE. Thank you for your help.
Tevo Tornado: Trying to follow your video. When I go to Prepare then click on auto home the extruder go’s to home. Then click on home x. the extruder moves strait up from home about 5mm. Then I click on home y the extruder stays still and the bead moves back and forth in y axis maybe 5 or 10mm. Then click on home z the extruder go's to home. In short the extruder do's not go to the x,y,z points and end up in the center of the bead.
Hope I did not make this confusing. Hope you help.
Thanks...😀 but i hink is not necessary, Tornado have 0,02mm accuracy on a glas bed (super flat surface)
flat does not mean level. thermal expansion and screw creep cause the glass to move over time. leveling is not a set and forget proposition.
Good video. Just a heads up. Your firmware will not complete the upload for some reason despite compiling ok. I thought it had bricked my main board and had to clear the board by uploading a blank sketch and then the stock firmware with adjustments for a bltouch. Just a warning to anybody who tries to upload it and wonders why is doesn't complete the upload. Thanks for the mount and info.
sorry to hear you had trouble with it. I know it's worked for several people who have followed this tutorial and it worked fine for my printer. The firmware in the description is pretty much just the firmware that Tevo themselves released on the Facebook page around the same time they started selling the Tornado, but I changed it to work with the BLTouch - pretty much just uncommenting the BLTouch line and setting the Auto Bed Leveling parameters in the configuration.h file. You may have more luck with one of the versions on the Facebook group's page - facebook.com/groups/TEVO.Tornado.Owners/
Video is good but throwing this out there. The pins are not the same when using an MKS Gen L board like me. Otherwise thanks for the mount and other files.
what pins do we use?
This is really well done. I just subscribed. Thank you.
every thing is installed and working perfectly ....the only weird thing is the mathematical solution I came up with to adjust the Z OFFSET that does not follow any logic my paper test gives me a reading of 001.3 and my final offset setting is 00.8 that means the offset in the printer (controle ...motion ... z ofsset ..)should of been 00.5 BUT it was showing 000.0
No problem, got it from your website.
my board for my 2018 tevo tornato is not the same???????? can u help me and do i need to change the code?????
I would like to know the answer to this also. The newer 2018 tornados have different boards and firmware I think too.
Thanks for the very helpful video
I've never understood why the springs included with the BLTouch are necessary. The included documentation is very sparse too.
when auto homing my printer goes up instead of down, it worked perfectly fine before the bl touch and new software
Great video. Cant wat for my Tornado.
Thank you
Hans, how is it? Im about to buy one myself
Why do all Tevo tornados look like the extruder/fan shroud is tilted
Great video. Only problem is the firmware file is not there anymore.... Please check or provide another link.
Trying this again... www.dropbox.com/s/rryegz2zomlgj6d/Tornado%20Firmware.zip?dl=0 - sorry for the inconvenience.
Sorry but the link doesn't work.
what springs do i use are they just to lower the bltouch closer or is it for pivot? thank you
Thanks for the video! Just ordered my Tevo Tornado and was planning to add a bltouch soon - Can you tell me if the tevo comes with a bootloader installed?
I don't remember it's been a few years since I made this video. But, if I didn't explain how to burn a bootloader in the video, then it already had one on it. I covered everything in this video that I had to do to make it work.
What's the difference between the BLTouch vs the capacitive sensor?
You mentioned something about switching the brown/orange/red wires...could you elaborate on that? Also, I have the 2018 model Tornado ("gold") if that makes a difference. Thank you!
If you google image search "mks maker L bl touch diagram" you will see a wiring diagram for the MKS Maker L board (2018 gold version)
HELP! My sensor is a MKS 3D bltouch and it has only a three wire and two wire
I have had the bltouch installed on my printer for past 4 months and it has been working flawlessly but a few days ago I replaced my pei sheet and now the nozzle starts 2-3mm above the bed. I have redone my z-offset and stored the value to the eeprom and reflashed the firmware many times now and it has had no effect whatsoever. No matter what I do the nozzle is 2-3mm above the bed when a print starts.
I'm dusting mine off after sitting for a few years and having a similar issue. When I first tried it, it printed a millimeter or 2 too high. Since I ordered a new PEI bed I figured I would re-adjust when I install that. After installing the new bed, the nozzle dug into the bed (since it was thicker) so I needed to raise the z-offset. My offset was +1.25 and after the math, the new offset was +4.05. I then homed it and it dug into the bed again. I;m not sure anything changed (I did save the setting)
I just bought a BL touch for my Tevo Tornado from Amazon and used your mount and firmware from the links.
I did a home command and the nozzle moves to center of the bed. When i moved the Z axis to .001 the nozzle was right were it should be.
The system had a z-offset of +1.25, so I added the .001 to it. Then I made the adjustment and saved it to the eprom.
Turned it off the box and turned it back on. New offset was saved.
Here is where the problem is.
I go to bed level in the system menu and select it. The nozzle moves to it first test position and it seems to work OK, the second and third position puts the nozzle right on the bed. On the fourth test position, the system just pushes my print Nozzle into my bed and keeps pushing until the motors start clicking. I have to turn off the box to stop it.
I thought I did z off set wrong so I tried subtraction this time, but still, no matter how I have the Z offset, set at, I can’t fix it.
I'm lost
Ps: I did double check the cables and did a continuity test on them. They are good.
First, make sure your nozzle isn't hitting the bed at the same time as the bltouch probe since that can cause the probe to trigger too low in some places on your bed - if it is, you'll want to lower your BLTouch a little bit by either loosening the screws to stretch the springs out a little bit, or adding some washers between the BLTouch and the printed mount... If that's not the issue, you may want to try re-flashing the firmware from the description above, then running an M502 command followed by an M500 command and M501 to reset the default settings in the firmware and load them up into active memory. Marlin has a strange habit of not overwriting existing settings when you flash the firmware over a previous version of Marlin. If that doesn't work, my only other guess would be a short in one of the wires to the BLTouch. I have heard of that happening in the past where the wires short depending on what part of the bed they're probing currently.
I re-flashed and used the M502 M500 , M501 commands and it works now. Thanks for the info.
Ps: I also removed or // the #define NOZZLE_CLEAN_FEATURE line. Did not see a need for it on the tornado with one nozzle.
I would like to know why you think it needed to be activated. I'm always willing to learn.
Good deal I'm glad to hear that worked for you. the #define NOZZLE_CLEAN_FEATURE is actually disabled in the version I have up for download in the video description. I just downloaded it and opened the Configuration.h file and this is copy/pasted from it:
//#define NOZZLE_CLEAN_FEATURE
I'm not sure how familiar you are with coding, but the two // at the beginning "comment out" the line so that the software doesn't see it there. then the line after that #if ENABLED(NOZZLE_CLEAN_FEATURE) just checks to see if it is enabled before doing the stuff underneath that #if.
Thank you for your input. It helped me a lot.
where is the zip file i can not find it in the dropbox--will this work with the newest marlin?
I think my problem is software related as the BL Touch seems to be functioning correctly, mechanically. If I've got an ikea mirror on top of my bed, do I have to change any values in Marlin? The probe seems to go off the edge of the mirror and throw off the auto level.
nice video ... is it possible to install an inductive sensor using the same setup ....including the firmware ?
thanks. the firmware setup would be a little bit different, and you would probably want to use a Capacitive sensor on the Tornado since the bed is made of glass. Inductive sensors only sense metal so it would just crash into the bed.
The BL touch in your link has an option come with the 1 m ribbon cable and those colors are what you're using. Your ribbon cable link has more cables and not the same colors. I printed your mount. Where did those springs come from? I'm still scared of getting into the control box but more so flashing the Software. I'm on Mac. Do Need to use a USB cable to do the firmware? It's about 15 feet between my iMa and printer ha ha.
you're welcome to use any cables you like as long as the cables connect from the BLTouch to the right spots on your main board. This video is more of an overview of how I installed a BLTouch on my printer so if you're comfortable with straying from my instructions, feel free. The springs came with the BLTouch, and yes you'll need a USB cable to write the firmware. You'll probably have an easier time just carrying your printer over to your computer if you don't have a long enough USB cable.
Hi againThanks but NOT deviating from your instructions.. I just noted the differences in colors between the ribbon cable you can get with the BLTouch and the other one you recommend above. The BL ribbon matches the colors of your cables.
So, I finished, and it crashed into the print bed. In Autohome It goes all the way left until it hits the X-min Limit switch. Since we removed the Z-min limit switch to plug in the BLtouch, how is this supposed to work? Do I plug in the Z-min Limit switch in the unused Z-Max slot on the board and do something in marlin using both the BLtouch and Z-Min? Or is there a way to Auto-home where it hits X-min, then moves right before it goes down in Z so the Bltouch is over the Printbed? (My Bltouch is -48 in X)
I installed the provided FW where that he proved an it installed fine. However, something weird happed to the Z axis and I can't seem to fix it. No matter which direction turn the dial on the control box, the axis only goes in one direction, down and makes a horrible rough STEP motor sound. The Z wont go back up. I have to disengage the motors and manually back the Z axis up. Any suggestions?
Problem solved: The wire connector wasn't seated on the PCB header completely.
Sorry but can you tell me what are the offset value of this mount? I need them to configure the firmware
Does the firmware in the description have things like thermal runaway?
great video. is all the information up to date still?
Thanks. I haven't kept up with the information on this video very well, so you may want to do some research before trying this. It's possible that Tevo has put out a new version of the Tornado since I made this video, so I can't guarantee the firmware will work with any version of the printer besides mine. I bought my Tornado as soon as it was released and that was more than 2 years ago. However, it looks like all of the necessary parts that are linked on Amazon are still available to purchase, and the arduino and firmware downloads are still available. Best of luck.
@@RemainIndoors thanks. so far so good. i'm at the firmware point now. can you recommend an idiots guide to using the arduino program and setting it up.
@@manningcustom sorry, I don't watch a lot of other youtuber's videos on the subject, but I walked through some basic steps in this video ua-cam.com/video/AH_OP8arePk/v-deo.html - The only difference I would suggest is using the 1.8.3 version of the Arduino IDE, since that's the one I used in this video, and I know it works with this version of the firmware.
After that, You'll need to install the u8glib.h library in your Arduino IDE. you can download it here (save the file):
code.google.com/archive/p/u8glib/downloads
Then, in the Arduino IDE go to Sketch - Include Library - Add .ZIP library and choose the zip file you just downloaded.
I believe that should pretty much be all you need to do to get it ready for the steps in this video.
Is it possible to do the self leveling before or during the heat up process? I find it takes a lot of time doing it while the bed and hot end are already hot
it looks like it might be possible with PrusaSlicer at least. the Start G-code has the set extruder temp, set bed temp, wait for bed temp, wait for extruder temp lines specified, so you could move the bed-leveling G-code above those lines and it should run bed leveling while it's heating up. There is a drawback to that though, the bed may change shape slightly as it heats up, so it's possible it may not be as level as you hope if you run auto-bed leveling before it's hot. I haven't tested any of this, so it's just a theory, but it's worth testing if you're looking to save time.
hi i have ultrabase glass on tevo tornado and i get bltouch ..what settings i need to do for petg fillament to print good ? ,,right now it's one day all go ok next nothing will work (same s3d settings) ,i was hoping bltouch will make leveling out of picture for errors ..
Could you please post the firmware link from the Tevo Tornado Facebook group? Thanks in advance.
I know I am a little behind the times on doing this, but just recently received my Tornado. I know nothing about Arduino. :( I tried to compile your code and it tells me pins are not defined and unknown CPU. Is this due to a newer board? Any suggestions on getting around this?
Any idea how this works with the new version 1.1 for the new tornados just bought 1 and it's a pain to level.
Same as this, did it today , i downloaded a ready software and get it done :-)
The only difference is the wiring. They use 2 different boards from what I can see. Just did my install today. Totally different board.
How does it looks on MKS Base 1.6?
Im having a hell of a time to get this thing to work, I have a TEVO tornado with a glass bed on top. I uploaded the firmware no changes, using your mount. I can now no longer access my TEVO via usb with repeiter host and I cannot get the Z offset right. After starting a benchy it resets sliced with repeiter & slic3r it resets after setting down the first layer. Talk about frustrating, i almost want to go back to manual bed leveling because at least i could print.
So i am now connected, baud rate was wrong.. still having offset issues
You may want to try changing the Baudrate to 115200 in Repetier Host if you haven't already tried that. When you say it resets, do you mean the printer is restarting all together? That sounds like a possible wiring issue somewhere that could be shorting from + to - so you may want to double check your wiring if that is the issue
Remain Indoors correct, the baud rate had changed from factory. I redownloaded the firmware and uploaded it fresh and re did my z offset, i have it printing now, have to continue testing to see if there are any further issues
Gotcha. I've put up an updated version of the firmware with the Baudrate set at 250000 and updated the link in the description. apologies for the confusion.
Remain Indoors still having leveling issues i locktited my screws to prevent them from moving but i have it printing and the right side of my bed has waves in it while the left is extruded together with no visible lines... this is so frustrating lol, i can send pictures if that didnt make sense
Hello, all I'm having an issue I followed the video to the "T" yet after bed leveling i put a piece of paper under nozzle when print starts(no filament loaded) is fine til i reach center then nozzle is pushing down on paper basically rendering the paper not able to move(digging into bed) it's like its not mapping the different heights.
Hi, you may want to try some of the troubleshooting covered in some of the other comments on this video. I plan on making a troubleshooting video as my next video, but in the meantime, here's my response to somebody else having similar issues:
First, make sure your nozzle isn't hitting the bed at the same time as
the bltouch probe since that can cause the probe to trigger too low in
some places on your bed - if it is, you'll want to lower your BLTouch a
little bit by either loosening the screws to stretch the springs out a
little bit, or adding some washers between the BLTouch and the printed
mount... If that's not the issue, you may want to try re-flashing the
firmware from the description above, then running an M502 command
followed by an M500 command and M501 to reset the default settings in
the firmware and load them up into active memory. Marlin has a strange
habit of not overwriting existing settings when you flash the firmware
over a previous version of Marlin. If that doesn't work, my only other
guess would be a short in one of the wires to the BLTouch. I have heard
of that happening in the past where the wires short depending on what
part of the bed they're probing currently.
Hi. Im on Mac. Am I gonna have to go out a get a PC? Also can you answer my question below about the difference between the BL Touch and a capacitive sensor? Thanks
Arduino should work on a Mac too, and that's the only place that you really need a computer for this. A BLTouch is a physical sensor that detects with some level of accuracy how far away something is, as long as it's a solid object, and a Capacitive sensor can accomplish the same thing, but will require some fine tuning of sensitivity. In my experience Capacitive sensors are inferior in that small changes in atmospheric humidity and heat can affect how accurate your sensor is. I recommend Tom's video here if you want to know more: ua-cam.com/video/il9bNWn66BY/v-deo.html
Wow! Cool, thank you very much. I'm getting to the point of installing one. Leveling the darn bed is a bear for me. One time I get it right, next time not so much but baby steps help and the 3rd time's all off. I'm getting sick of the playing around. Also with my FilaFarm Switch (magnetic build surface) every time Take off the print sheet to remove the print, and put it back onI got to re-level the bed. UGH!
Lol why is it sideways? 😂
anyone know why it wont work on tevo tornado ...it's red power is oki he pin in out on start up later on homing strike bed and wont lower pin .i look z min socket it's fine i even weld wires (did not trust black pins) and i think they run fine ...white line is toward cpu black middle on z minus .. rest is from site (mks base 1.4) yellow brown red .red is toward cpu ...firmware is 1.1.8 bltouch from here .......so what cause bltouch dont ping bed on homing ? it just stay red and do nothing making crash ,,when i hand pull pin out red light turn off ..... plz help me ....
Is there an updated version of the firmware somewhere? On Startup mine now say 1.0 while the stock firmware the printer came with was 1.1.8 I think
the firmware from this video is the same firmware that Tevo released on the Tevo Tornado facebook group. I believe there are newer versions there, but I haven't tried any of them personally facebook.com/groups/TEVO.Tornado.Owners/
I just ordered my tornado printer last night and am very interested in the BL touch. I have seen several videos of people complaining they've had nothing but problems with it, now that you had it for several months what are your thoughts?
I've personally never had any problems with the BLTouch. Most of the issues I've heard are from other people who have a hard time setting it up. I have 3 printers with a BLTouch including this one, and all 3 work fine for me. my only complaint is that it's a little slower to probe than an inductive sensor because of the time it takes to stow and deploy, but the trade off is it's easy to use even with glass on the bed (which the tornado bed is all glass). In my experience, as long as you're careful and thorough with your setup, the BLTouch should work fine
Remain Indoors I plan on putting a piece of regular glass on top of my bed, do you see any problems with that?
no problems from the BLTouch perspective. but it will add more weight to your y carriage, which could make for slower printing. When I got my Tornado when it first came out there was an issue with the voltage to the Y stepper needing to be adjusted. I don't know if they've fixed that now, but if you get skipped steps in the Y axis, you may need to adjust that. - but that's also the kind of issue you can run into from adding extra weight to your bed.
Remain Indoors I did see a video specifically about that so I'll keep it in mind. Thanks for the help and info
so do you put it at .2 above the bed because that is the hight you want to print at? so if i wanted to print at .1 i should set the offset as .1 from the bed?
The point of the z offset is just to set how high your nozzle is off the bed when your printer reads 0 for the z height. For me, I've always had good luck with setting the z offset to make the nozzle about a paper's width above the bed, then setting the first layer to print at 0.2mm. Even if I want to print at 0.1 layer height or in rare cases 0.05 I'll still print the first layer as 0.2 because it gives me the best adhesion without squishing the filament too much. But this is assuming you have a 0.4mm nozzle.
Its work tevo tarantula?
Ok. Still having an issue. I used your mount and firmware. Whenever it starts to print the Z is 0.2, not 0 every time and all it is doing is printing tumble weeds. Any idea how to rectify this issue? I didn't notice anything in the g-code that would cause this problem.
EDIT: it shows 0.2 for Z on the screen and no matter how much I change the offset it still does the same thing.
The offset isn't going to change what the screen shows for your current z height. even if you set the offset to -10 then when your z axis shows 0 on the control box, it should actually be 10mm lower (extreme example). I'd try cleaning the tip of the nozzle as good as possible and adjusting the z offset again. maybe make the offset a hair lower than the paper's width suggests. also make sure you clean your bed with rubbing alcohol before you start your print.
Also the first layer print height will depend on your settings in the slicer. 0.2 as the first layer height works for me, but it can vary slightly depending on the type of filament you're printing with, so it may be worth changing the first layer height to 1.8 or 1.6 to see if that makes a difference. But regardless, your first layer should never read as 0, otherwise you may be digging into the bed.
Is anyone else having a problem with the mount arm breaking on every print? The piece that holds the BLTouch on 5 copies have all broken off immediately after printing and before clean up. I’m going to try to modify the file but I’m a crazy newb at this stuff.
maybe try to increase infill to some higher value? default is 20%, try to 60%. I'd make it even more because it should be solid enough in order not to bend. I'm about to print this mount - haven't tried it before.
Leveling is super easy now!
ua-cam.com/video/6Q546Oiwq_w/v-deo.html
I was able to get everything working but whenever the probe begins to auto level it doesn't sense the bed and the nozzle crashes into to the bed. I'm using the exact setup you are (BLTouch and the edited marlin firmware)
first, does your BLTouch do the self test when you first turn your printer on? it should deploy then stow the pin a couple of times. If that isn't working, it's most likely a wiring issue. Even if that is working it can be a wiring issues, so make sure all of your wiring is definitely making solid contact since shorts anywhere can cause problems like this. Also make sure your wires are definitely plugged into the right locations. - if that all checks out, you may want to try re-flashing the firmware from the description above, then running an M502 command followed by an M500 command and M501 to reset the default settings in the firmware and load them up into active memory. Marlin has a strange habit of not overwriting existing settings when you flash the firmware over a previous version of Marlin. you can run those commands by connecting your printer to your computer with Reptier Host or Pronterface or even the command window in Octoprint.
Probably your z-endstop wiring is wrong , just switch wires positive and gnd
I quadruple checked my wiring and everything is good. When I power the printer on the BLtouch does do it's self-test correctly. But when it auto homes or bed levels the end of the pin on the BLtouch will hit the printers and go down a few for mm making the nozzle hit/crush the bed then the BLtouch retracts the pin and it goes and moves the hot-end up. I have tried reinstalling your firmware but it didn't solve my problem. Do you think it could be a problem with the BLtouch itself?
do you have the springs installed between the BLTouch and the mount? the mount is designed to include those springs so that the pin extends far enough past the nozzle to where it will trigger before the nozzle hits the bed. if the top of the BLTouch is flush with the mount, there's a good chance the nozzle will crash into the bed before the pin triggers
as a test, raise the z axis up about half way, then run the Home All command. when it starts lowering, try triggering the pin with your finger before it gets to the Bed. then you'll know for sure if that's the issue
so i guess i'm out of touch with math but anyone can tell me my new z height
1st i had after doing by paper is -003.1 and then check my current z and it said 1.250.
so if we have to had those two and positive plus a negative is a negative right? so i should get -4.350 right?
So, if the number your LCD screen said when the nozzle was a paper's width away from the bed was -3.1 that means, you need to lower the Z offset by 3.1. So if your Z offset is starting out at 1.25, that means you should change it to -1.85. After you do that and store your settings, make sure you try the paper thing again, but when you get the nozzle a paper's width from the bed, it should read 0.
Will this work with those clone bl touch sensors from ebay/ali express?
I'm not sure. I've never tried one of them.
Is there a version with a Dual Extruder tevo Tornado??
that was the neurus pro. but never released. just get a palette instead
Where are the links to Parts please?
Which parts? I think everything you need should be in the video description?
Do's the Tornado have Auto leveling. I'm using Simplify3D 4.0.1 Can I just add G29 command to this script. After installing the BLTouch. As you explain in your video.
No, the Tevo Tornado does not come with Auto Bed Leveling. That why you have to use something like the BLTouch to add the sensor. It looks like the firmware gcode supports a sensor. Most printers support standard firmware. I wish the tornado did have Auto Bed Leveling built in. I am wondering how well this will work over time. How much re-adjustment of the bed screws will be necessary over time. I am coming from a Da Vinci 1.0 and a Monoprice Mini delta printers. From my experience with the Da Vinci Bed Leveling. I never want to have to perform that again, period. To much work and not enough fun printing.
hey a friend told me I could use the same firmware for the cr-10 as the tornado is that true cause I have a cr-10 that I would like to add a BL touch to and I suck with firmware and creality won't give the firmware saying some BS about it not being open source even though its running off of marlin
that depends on if you have the original CR-10 or the CR-10S. The original CR-10 has a Melzi (Sanguinololu) board as well as no additional pins available for a control signal to run the BLTouch without some modifications. See this guy's video for details: ua-cam.com/video/ioL-7oEBI1Q/v-deo.html - The original CR-10 would need some changes to the Marlin firmware to make this work, but if you're a member of the CR-10 facebook group, search in the files section there - there are a few variants of the firmware as well as some newer versions by Tim Hoogland. I do have a version of what is claimed to be the "stock firmware" saved on my computer, but I don't remember where I found it, I'm guessing it would have been on the facebook group... also I don't know if it is the actual stock firmware or just one that somebody mocked up - it does have the Creality CR-10 splash screen though, so it's possible. On the other hand, the CR-10S has a different board and two z-axis motors as well as servo pins that can be used to control the BLTouch. I don't own the CR-10S so I'm not 100% sure which pin would need to be configured in the firmware or which board to select without further research. If you do have the CR-10S, you may be able to get away with using a modified version of the Tornado firmware to get that to work, but no promises.
Hi, I have a problem with the installation of the BL Touch. The wiring is correct and I made exactly the same modifications in the firmware. The seltest of the BLTouch is correct but when I try to make a Autohome, the probe crash on the bed and didn't rise up.
Do you have an explanation?
Did you install the springs between the bltouch and the printed mount? The pin may not be deploying low enough to hit the bed before the nozzle. Second possibility is you may need to reset the firmware to its default settings. You can do that by running an M502 command followed by an M500 command and M501 to reset the default settings in the firmware and load them up into active memory. Marlin has a strange habit of not overwriting existing settings when you flash the firmware over a previous version of Marlin. you can run those commands by connecting your printer to your computer with Reptier Host or Pronterface or even the command window in Octoprint.
Remain Indoors ok thank you for answering. In fact, i have not installed the springs. I thought that was not important. I Will try this tonight and i will come back to inform you.
Hello, i have installed the springs and all works correctly. I did not suspect that these little springs would make the difference. Thank you for the solution ;)
Hi, I have another question for you if it does not bother you. I want to connect to my Tevo Tornado a module for an auto power off system when printing is done. Is there an Option PS ON in the firmware and a pin on the MKS of the Tornado? I think there is a pin for that ( pin 6 near the signal connection of the BL Touch) but I am not sure. Do you know something about that?
Thanks.
Anyone using this with OctoPrint? Ive been useing OctoPrint print and I’m going through this setup and I’m hoping it doesn’t interfere with octoprint connecting to the printer
Michael Hilliar, I use octoprint and a bltouch on an Anet A6 and it works great.
1990notch I have it setup and it’s working great and I designed and printed a housing for the spare endstop to use it as a filament sensor. Love both octoprint and the BL touch
Hey guys, how can i get access to Z-Offset settings? it does not appear in a menu of my control box?
did you use my version of the firmware? it should be in there
Yes, with disabled BLTouch....
What would cause the auto home to put the Z at +200? X and Y seem to go to middle but the Z just moves to midair.
Is the BLTouch pin deploying when this happens? The way it's supposed to work, the X and Y would move to the middle of the bed, then Z axis raises up a little bit, and the BLTouch deploys the pin, then it starts lowering toward the bed. If it's not lowering, I would assume part of the wiring may be either incorrect or has a short in it. It has been quite a long time since the last time I did troubleshooting on one of these, so you may want to read around some of the other comments on this video or in the facebook group in case anybody else has had a similar problem and found a solution for it.
I believe somebody mentioned there is a newer version of the Tevo Tornado with a different main board than the one I have on my printer, but I haven't done much research into that. if that's the case, the firmware may be setup differently. Anyway, that's where I would start researching the issue. that and troubleshooting the wiring.
Best of Luck!
@@RemainIndoors It stays in position until it gets to 200 then it deploys and retracts twice.
@@JustTheFacts2 Ahh okay, that sounds like the probe sensor is probably inverted. I would try changing these two settings in the Configuration.h file
Z_MIN_ENDSTOP_INVERTING and Z_MIN_PROBE_ENDSTOP_INVERTING
If they're false, set them to true, or vice versa. If it's set to the wrong one, then your printer is going to think it's already touching the bed as soon as the probe deploys. so it won't lower the Z axis.
@@RemainIndoors Huh. My reply never appeared, apparently. Switching the inverters did nothing other than cause it to raise the Z a bit each time. It still does not go down.
@@JustTheFacts2 Hmm. that's weird. you'll need to switch those inverted settings back then - what you're describing is what happens when they're inverted (it deploys the pin, and raises about 10mm two times). I'm not sure why it's not lowering. Do you have the Z endstop switch still plugged into the main board? If it's not something related to that, I would think maybe there's a problem with the wiring. Are you using a BLTouch Smart like the one I used in the video?
Where is the marlin fw?
Technical difficulties. until I can get this worked out, I'll upload it to the Tevo Tornado Facebook group if you're a member there
www.dropbox.com/s/rryegz2zomlgj6d/Tornado%20Firmware.zip?dl=0 sorry for the inconvenience.
where to buy that bltouch from
amazon
The tornado.ino file does not open anything other than a tornado tab, and it also references marlinconfig.h, not configuration.h. I am stuck. I have tried using both the new version of arduinoIDE and 1.8.3 version, neither works.
so, I just downloaded the Tornado Firmware from the link in this video and I reinstalled Arduino IDE 1.8.3. I double clicked on Tornado.ino in the Tornado Firmwave\Tornado folder and it opened a list of tabs in the Arduino IDE. The first tab is Tornado, then Conditionals.h, Conditionals_LCD.h, Conditionals_post.h then Configuration.h. followed by several others...
If you look near the far right side of the list of tabs, there's a little down arrow you can click to view all of the tabs.
@@RemainIndoors Thank you for getting back to me so quickly, i appreciate that. I am still not getting any tabs showing up, so If you can send me your email I will email you a video of my process just to prove that I'm not a dummy. But I would actually prefer to be a dummy in this case because i just want it to work lol. Let me know your email if you feel comfortable, if not I understand.
@@RemainIndoors So I am a certified dummy, the error was the need to extract the folder once the .zip file has been downloaded, and not to just double click the tornado.ino file straight from the zip file. My mistake Im sorry for wasting your time.
@@jasonorr3121 you can email me at my business email address on my channel page if you want. This is just a guess, but it may be confusion with how you're downloading from dropbox? as soon as you click the link in the video it should take you to a page that isn't particularly intuitive. At the top right of the page there's a button to download the whole zip file, but if you click through other links, I think you can actually download individual files, which would let you download the .ino file by itself without the rest of the files.
@@jasonorr3121 no worries man. feel free to ask if you have any problems with it. I've had several complaints with people having issues with the firmware that's in this video (due to the way Tevo coded it), so I've been planning on making an update video. I have an updated version of the firmware I installed on my Tornado two weeks ago that I've been testing and I can upload that if needed.
I don't get the need for springs ... can someone explain? it is not obvious in the vid
The springs are included in the set with the BLTouch. they aren't "Needed" necessarily, but the mount I designed factors them in. The company's purpose of including the springs was to allow the user to raise or lower the BLTouch as needed in small increments while keeping tension between the BLTouch and the mount. My design specifically shouldn't need you to lower the BLTouch so they would be fully clamped down. If you don't want to use the springs, you would either want a couple of metal washers to take their place, or to re-design the mount to place the BLTouch a tiny bit closer to the bed.
Thanks ... great video tutorial by the way!
How many mm of washers would you recommend?
@@jsthomps it looks like 2.55mm between the top of the BLTouch and the printed mount. it doesn't have to be exact, but you probably want at least 2mm
does it work with Octopi / Klipper ?
This video specifically explains how to install a BLTouch with the default Marlin Firmware modified. I haven't researched Klipper, so I have no idea if Klipper supports BLTouch at the moment. However, the Marlin Firmware on the Tevo Tornado should have no problem running on Octoprint with or without the BLTouch
Remain Indoors ok thanks . Eventually I will install just octoprint without klipper
I would need to set 26.3 as offset :0 so it does not work
hmm.. that sounds wrong. Are you using a BLTouch smart and the mount I designed with the springs installed?
I just did all the firmware stuff and now my printer doesn't auto home the z axis. Does anyone know how to fix this?
z axis should be in the middle of your bed. Is it moving to the middle and stopping entirely? is it deploying the pin and raising up? if it's not deploying the pin at all, there's possibly a problem with the wiring. If it IS deploying the pin and just raising, you may need to invert the Z min endstop in the Configuration.h file in the firmware and write it again. You would do that by changing Z_MIN_ENDSTOP_INVERTING and Z_MIN_PROBE_ENDSTOP_INVERTING (if it's true change it to false, if and vice versa)
BLTouch is a bit finnicky, but as long as the wiring is solid, it's pretty reliable.
@@RemainIndoors It will deploy the pin once but not move the z axis height at all.
@@ethanbreen5500 so the pin deploys and retracts? or does it deploy and then do nothing? Either way, I would double check the wiring to make sure there are no loose wires, and make sure it's plugged into the correct spots on the main board. if all of the wiring is fine, you may want to invert the Z min endstop and test again to see if it makes a difference.
Assuming you bought your Tornado recently, I believe I heard the newer versions of the Tornado came with different main boards than the version that's in my printer in this video. I haven't bought the newer version and I haven't researched the issue that much, but if it is a different board, the pins may be different than the firmware in the video description. it's possible somebody else has run into this issue, so somebody else may have left a comment on this video if you want to look through those. Worst case scenario, you may want to check on the facebook group for the BLTouch or the Tevo Tornado.
7:02 My tevo board looks different. i do not see these connections on the board.
Look for the model number stamped on your control board and then search to locate a pin out to match your board. The green tornado had the MKS Base v1.x boards, the newer gold version has the MKS Gen L board known as the v2.x board.
@@enduser4200 Thank you. I now have found the pins but to be honest, i am very scared to start messing around with the firmware in case i make a mess of it
@@calvaryapologetics always get a copy of your current firmware and keep it in a safe place. If things go south you can always reflash the original factory firmware back on. That is what I did with my Tevo Tornado green version. Not sure if you done it yet, but you should join for free the TEVO Tornado Owners Group on facebook. They have files, all the support info you can use, and a live forum where your questions are answered fast.
@@enduser4200 Thank you. I am not on facebook. i do not like it.
@@calvaryapologetics I use a made up facebook profile and everything in that fake account is locked down. I keep my business my business.
After dealing with Tevo with a lemon that won't print without 3rd party addons I would not recommend buying this printer.
Not only did they mess up shipping me a replacement bed and extrduer gear, not shipping it out for weeks until I bugged them about it, but when it finally got here it was a bent bed, totally unusable.
Buyer beware on Tevo products.
I've had similar experience in trying to get customer service. They didn't respond via service request on the us website, were very slow to respond on the Canada website, and only ended up responding after a few days to redirect me to China. The China contact had me pay for a replacement part, and then didn't ship it until I asked them for a tracking number. I still don't know if they actually sent it; they never confirmed with a tracking number and I haven't received the package yet.
For some reason it is not allowing me to download your Tornado.ino
to the printer
it's a zip file. go to the link in the video description, then click on "Download" at the top right of the page
Remain Indoors I had, and I got it into the arduino ide but for some reason it doesn't download to the board
Hello, do you know if this setup will also work for the Geetech BLtouch???
help with the offset please anyone?
What problem(s) are you having?
hello wen i open up arduino i see only 1 tab no more ...no configuration H
You need to open the firmware. you can do that by opening the Tornado.ino file in the Tornado Folder it should have a little green Arduino logo next to it.
OK .YES ..I OPEN THE TORNADO.INO FILE IT OPENS WITH ARDUINO ...AND THEIR I HAVE ONLY 1 TAB SHOWN CALED TORNADO ...NO OTHER TABS ...NO CONFIGURATION H ???
WHEN I UNZIP THE FIRMWARE IN A FOLDER AND FROM THERE I OPEN THE FILE CALLED ,,TORNADO (NOT INO ) BUT THE LOGO ARDUINO NEXT TO IT ....
SO WHEN I OPEN IT IN ARDUINO I HAVE ALL THE TABS ...BUT THE FIRST ONE IS NOT CALLED TORNADO BUT ANOTHER NAME (CONDITIONALS.H)AND I HAVE A ERROR MESSAGE#error "Old configurations? Please delete all #include lines from Configuration.h and Configuration_adv.h."
hmm. it sounds like the newer version of the Arduino IDE doesn't like that version of the firmware. you may need to install an earlier version. I use Arduino IDE 1.8.3, which is available here: www.arduino.cc/en/Main/OldSoftwareReleases
ok here is what i tried i installed arduino 1.8.3 with u8glib arduino master librairy....and same thing ...the tornado file opens in arduino but is called (CONDITIONALS.H) and i have the same error message ....can i just ignore that and go on with the changes i have to do in configuration H ...???
if you can record videos on your phone, record yourself trying this out and send me a link to it on here. I'm not sure what's causing your problem specifically, but if I could see where it's going wrong, maybe I can get an idea of how to help.
after doing this my screen went all pixelated... -.-
hmm. is it still readable? or just all garbage? Depending on how old your Tornado is, it may have a different main board and/or LCD screen, which could require different firmware. The firmware in this video is from when they first released the Tevo Tornado. It's the firmware that Tevo themselves released on the facebook group, I just changed the Configuration.h file to turn on the BLTouch functionality. Either way, if you can't get it working, you may want to look on that Facebook Group to see if there's an updated firmware for your version of the printer.
Best of luck
obnocious music. i always ask why? doesnt show use of springs.
All this seems like a pain in the ass to do and screw up your printer Not worth the time,money, or frustration...
How the hell do I level the bed if the auto home doesn't work? I just uboxed my tornado and It just runs to the far side and sounds like it's stripping the gears In the motor until I turn it off.
Most likely, it's not triggering the endstop. if the x-carriage (print head) is moving all the way to the left and grinding until you shut it off, look for the little metal switch on the left side and see what's stopping it from getting hit, or if it is getting hit, make sure the plug is plugged into that switch correctly. - The same thing can happen with the bed. The bed should move all the way to the back of the printer, and there's a switch in the back for that. Or, if the x carriage is moving to the right, or the bed is moving to the front, then either the motor is plugged in backwards, or the firmware is messed up (unlikely).
They are plugged in correctly, it refuses to move vertically and there is no end stop trigger on that side away from the control box., it just moves until one of the nuts hits the green bracket then stutters. Idk if it's supposed to hit or not but it keeps trying to move past it but it hits every time.
check out this video: ua-cam.com/video/fiS3RKAHpXA/v-deo.htmlm9s - it's queued up to the point where all of the cables are plugged in. If you're missing the endstop switch for any of them, then you should contact the company you bought it from.
I had it working for a few minutes but it seems like the x-axis stepper motor went out on me as it no longer turns the belt but I hear a ticking sound :/