A Lady// Thistleclaw and Snowfur AMV
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- An interpretation of their after death meeting
I'd like to believe that Thistleclaw genuinely loved his family.
Snowfur made him soft, and I'd like to think that Thistleclaw accepted that change, especially with him being excited to be a dad. However, her death made him relapse and grew even crueler than before, snowballing to serveral events that lead to the main arc (like Tigerclaw, Scourge, and Bluefur's entire arc).
Even if Snowfur loved him, I don't think she'd agree with anything he did after her death, and so resented him heavily for it. When Thistle finally died, they saw each other at the border where Snowfur would finally show him that she no longer cared for him.
Maybe Thistleclaw's violence softened for a bit and filled him with regret.
(edit) 07.07.2024
// disclaimer//
I do not side with his actions nor try to paint it in a good light. I only wanted to depict him "missing" what he had with snow. As for spotedleaf, since this is not an AU, everything is a cannon, it was not depicted due to audio length, and personal comfortability drawing it. Though I think the bloody paw implies enough
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Song: • A Lady
Characters are from the series "Warrior Cats"
- Snowfur
- Bluefur/star
- Thistleclaw
- Whitekit
Hope you enjoy it! :DD
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I love how this shows that Thistleclaw really did love snowfur, he was just always ambitious and lacked empathy. He loved Whitekit, he loved Snowfur, and when she died he completely lost it. Beautiful animation!
Thank you 💐
ehh debatable. although its an interesting interpretation, not much canonical evidence to back it up. they spend very little time on screen together, and thistleclaw is pretty horrible to whitekit after snowfurs death- even going so far as to curse his and snowfurs name while training in the dark forest
i like the interpretation though, its nice to see him being a little more complex rather than the blank slate horrible man he is in canon. beautiful art too
@@sugarrmoon Thank you! yeahh,, like 90% of this video is head cannon of how i think they'd interact.
@sugarrmoon adding to this: he also encouraged Tigerpaw to practice deadly fighting moves on Whitepaw..
Well, I do believe he loved Snowfur, even when they were innocent apprentices they were flirting. I think she was like the one thing that would have kept him away from his worst traits. Don't remember on the timeline but dude was going into twoleg place just to terrorize kittypets, and even wanted to kill a kittypet kitten. Snowfur probably had some xenophobia about other cats, but she never broke the warrior code. She grounded him kinda, but once she was gone he got worse. He loved Whitekit, but in a way of I'm going to make this kit in my image, he was gonna be a bad influence on his own kid.
The sad thing is. If you read Crookedstar’s Promise you find even more how empty his heart is by the way he comments about either Snowfur/Bluefur and his son while training in the dark forest.
I read that book and forgot what exactly he said, what did he think about them?
@@-Alari- it's been over a year... So my memory is hazey. But I think it was something like how he thinks there both a complete waist to him since there 'useless, & mouse hearted fools' for not having blood lust & ambition like him.
& or just that he's ashamed or disappointed how his son turned out.
But i'm about 70% sure.
@@jayfox4291 thank you!
@@-Alari- i decided to find it in the book.
(shortly after Snowfur die)
"This is it!" He faced his mentor. "My time is coming."
Shredtail nodded. "You've worked hard for it Thistleclaw."
"And I'm going to get it. I'll be deputy before next full moon."
"Are you sure Sunstar won't soften and choose Bluefur instead?" Shredtail snarled.
Thistleclaw narrowed his eyes. "He'd be a fool if he did," He growled "Bluefur is weak. I bet she's whimpering for Snowfur right now."
"Grife can bring strength." Shredtail warned.
"But Snowfur's body is hardly cold," Thistleclaw pointed out. "Bluefur will be breaking her heart for moons. Which will give me the chance to make Sunstar see that I'm the only one capable of following him."
"Snowfur was your mate." Shredtail narrowed his eyes. "Aren'y you grieving too?"
"Of course!" Thistleclaw slashed at a moss-coated tree. "Snowfur shouldn't have died! It should have been Bluefur on the Thunderpath instead!"
"What about your kit?" Shredtail pressed. "Your son?"
Thistleclaw curled his lip. "He takes after his mother," he spat "There's no fire in his belly, no hunger for battle." He swung his gaze around to his mentor. "Why are we talking?" He snarled. "I came to train, not talk." Rearing up, he strode forward on his hind paws, slicing the air with his tail tucked in tight.
Crookedjaw backed away, cold to his bones. He'd never seen a hunger for blood like this, not even in the battle for Sunningrocks, not even when Hailstar nearly killed Reedfeather.
@@jayfox4291 Thistle is straight up awful 💀
This is probably a weird comment, but I like how understated the visuals are, for lack of a better term. It's not anything overly grand, it just shows what it needs to and it shows those things exactly _how_ it needs to. A+ work, absolutely lovely.
aw thank you, i was worried it would look back as this was a one off style hehe, thank you so much
This is very cute!
I hate how they did Thistleclaw in the books. He really wasn't that bad at first and I feel like they only added to him/grooming Spottedleaf to give a better excuse why he ended up in the dark forest but I think a better story with him would have been how him and Snowfur's relationship ended up after they both died and how him and his son were. I think I would be kinda cute to have a scene where Snowfur and Whitestorm meet him at the border and Snowfur wants to try and convince Starclan to let him in but he tells her no because he doesn't want them to send her to the dark forest.
Thank you
no?? thistleclaw was never ever good. well i guess before snowfurs death he was just mildly grumpy and rude to bluefur. but after that he was DEFINITELY horrible. beating up tiny, using claws during training with tigerpaw, threatening to kill oakheart, saying he’ll “line the borders with his enemies blood”… hes definitely a terrible guy. heck, him loving snowfur or whitekit is even debatable considering he battle trains whitekit when hes still in the nursery, and then curses both his and snowfurs name when hes bad at it when training in the dark forest! awful awful guy
OMG I LOVE THSES BACKGROUND COLORS!!!!
I love how the border between starclan and the dark forest looks like a little ocean line! And these character designs ARE SCRUMPTIOUS!!
EEEK OMG THANK YOU!
I love to think that yeah, he did genuinely care about Snowfur and his son. But he snowballed and became an absolutely horrible cat and I’m glad that Snowfur at the end shows that she no longer loves him as his actions are unforgivable
aww Thistle looks so cute in this, too bad he ended up being so horrible :( I love the art, and the way the boundary between SC and the DF looks like water is really cool! amazing job!
@@_kaleido eeek thank youu!! I triend to make him both mean looking but soft haha
I LOVE HOW YOU DRAW PUPILS they’re just so… shape, and they give them so much character I am eating this AMV
@@roachsprouts AVC G HGH THANK YOU
i love angsty thistleclaw content!! i've never really liked him for what he did to spottedleaf but his relationship with snowfur made me feel bad for him and i liked him in the df. sick amv! really pretty especially with all the colours :DD
Thank you!!
I agree with you! I like him in proximity with snowfur, at least when she was alive
I always loved the idea that Thistleclaw always loved Snowfur. Such an interesting dynamic, and beautiful artwork!!!
@@LullabyTheKitty eeeek thank youu!!
WARGHH THIS IS SO GOOD OMFG. AND THE DESIGNS ARE JUST PERFECT XX
@@st4rface_r1ssie AAAAA THANK YOU SM, THISTLR TOOK ME A WHILE 😭😭
ONE OF MY FAVORITE AMV'S OF THEM YESS GREAT JOB!! Such a cool interpretation of their relationship!
AAA thank youuu!
Oh this so good! I feel like thistleclaw is such a cool antagonist that I couldn’t get enough of, I feel like he never cared too much about whitestorm, and I wish I coulda seen whitestorm having thistleclaw as his father figure!
TALLY HALL
aww thank you!!
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@@Cleared__ mama im a criminal 😳
THAN K YOU
You posted this the day I finished re-reading Bluestar's Prophecy, which was fortunate timing. Absolutely beautiful art and great timing! Your Snowfur looks so kind and pretty
Fun fact: Even though Thistleclaw had arrived and went to the Dark Forest, Snowfur still loves him regardless of his actions, and now in Starclan, took care of Bluestar’s young kit, Mosskit who passed away ^^
Do I smell?
*sniff*
Underrated?
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i love this so much
Good job :) you can really see the emotions in both snowfur and thistleclaw! 10/10
@@gltch_4240 AWWW THANK YOU
This is top tier art and animation! The backgrounds are way more detailed than I would ever bother lol
I really like the way you draw the eyes! In general though everything looks really cool
@@agentsnek eeek thank you!
I JUST CNT EXPLAIN HOW MUCH I LOVE THIS, THE DESIGN, THE ANIMATION HUST EVERYTHING IS PERFECT AND GORGEOUS 💗💗
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This is to good I-I think I might *Cutely throws up*
oh, oh no
get well soon?! D:
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OMG THIS IS SO FREAKING BEAUTIFUL!!! I LOVE THIS SO MUCH YOUR STYLE IS WONDERFUL
@@The_CavyStorm THANK YOU💕💕
OMG yes finally you get the fame you deserve!
your drawings are absolutely awesome!
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This is incredible! The differences between the living world, Starclan and the Dark Forest are incredible in their realization, I love how short the entire thing and yet perfectly paced it all is, this is incredible! It really makes your heart clench in sympathy for Thistleclaw and Snowfur! I wonder if Whitestorm would meet with his dad at the border.
@@elazayth ack thank you!
amazing work, it reminds me how of an bad afterlife system starclan is
thistleclaw was a bit mean, but that’s nothing when compared to brokenstar or tigerstar standing atop a massive pile of hatred and destruction with kill counts in the dozens!
why did cats like silverhawk, snowtuft, thistleclaw, juniperclaw (etc) get shoved in with monsters like tigerstar, brokenstar, mapleshade (etc again)? especially in the dark forest, it seems to draw out the worst in anyone, and then everyone goes and wonders “why so evil?”
judging by how common ive seen this argument across the internet really says a lot about how much warriors needs to change its system
AAA THIS IS SO GOOD
I love short AMVs like these, they really show off so much from characters in such short time!! And your style is so beautiful and depicts these two perfectly!!
Thankyou
hehehe glad you think so, cause I'm making another one >:)
@@drawingstool You're very welcome!! You did absolutely fantastic, and if you do make more, I'll definitely watch it
The shading and artstyle is wonderful
Thank you❤
HOLY HELL THIS TURNED OUT SO WELL!!!
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WOW this audio takes me way back to my childhood....amazing animation!! i love the harsh shadows you use!
Eekkk thank you!!
Love tally hall
Your art style is absolutely beautiful, dang. Also btw, I *love* Whitekit’s design!
@@viperfang254 thank you!!
I can’t stop rewatching this video, I want to give it more than a like. Fantastic animation!
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Beautiful!!
Gorgeous drawings and peak song choice. Love some good old tally hall
@@Yesimlily EEE thank you!!
LOVE THIS!!!
(Btw are you ok with it being used in edits)
First of all this is beautiful artwork! I love the colors! Secondly though I don't think Snowfur would have no longer cared for him. Loving someone doesn't mean condoning all their actions, it's hard to imagine her or whitestorm could ever fully hate him.
@@naoyatoudou4009 thank you!
hmmm perhaps not fully hating him, but enough to cut ties. I think this applies to snowfur more than whitestorm, cause he grew up more with bluestar. Point it I dont necessarily agree, but it's interesting to see people's take on it.
Oh my god this is beautiful 🥺🥺
Thankyou!!!
I love the colors, designs, and your style so much!! instantly subscribed!
@@Kiterally omg thank you sm 💕
Added to my “INSANE ANIMATIONS” playlist
(You’ve earned a new sub)
idsajdiasjda YOU are insane >:O /pos
@@drawingstool it’s like 1:30 AM . . I’m a bit insane at this hour.
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This looks beautiful! Great job! Hope your channel finds more people!!
EEEE THANK YOU! and thanks for finding it then :>
@@drawingstool You’re welcome!! :3
Incredible animation!
IT'S JUST AMAZING
@@____Kontur_Tesna____ ack thanks!!
This is so underrated??
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Love your videos! ❤
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Thistleclaw in Bluestars prophecy : ❤❤❤ Thistleclaw in Spottedleafs heart : 😓😓😓
What they did to thistleclaw was so shitty imo
I get they wanted him to seem bad but that was so unnecessary. He could’ve easily just have been trying to recruit other warriors and not make him a P. I liked him as an antagonist in bluestars book. Then they ruined him.
Uh heck yeah, your getting a fallow buddy ( epic art )
epic
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I LOVE THISTLECLAW CONTENT!!!!!!! YAYAYA
I know I’m probably wrong but to me it kind of looks like the StarClan Snowfur isn’t actually Snowfur, instead Thistleclaws imagination.
I adore this either way (well… not Thistleclaw, I could never adore him XD) Everything about this is stunning! :P
UNDERRATED WTH
WHT?! 😳
It super cool! I love it
@@user-vt1mn7ii9z awww thank you!
May I use these clips (with credit) for an edit? ❤❤
@@izzy_jj8 go for it!!
Потрясающе!
@@Kota-DaraWildCraft thank you!!
Жалко его, всего лишился из-за алчности😢
TALLY FUCKING HALL
no because your style is chefs kiss, even when you’re drawing awful cats
Remember in Bluestar's Prophecy Snow and Thistle were flirting at the gathering..yeah, good time. And remember each time he wanted to be with his son or teach him something Bluefur(star) was like 'piss off' yeah, good times..idc i genuinely do love Thistleclaw. Minus Spottedleaf's book. But somewhat in a way, minus the pedo stuff he was still interesting in that book, just the way he could easily manipulate others. But even WITH that, there ARE other characters similar to him and didn't go to the Darkforest..feels like Thistle was more of a filler character
@@timothythecowboy967 yeah, unfortunately i feel like the writers don't utilise most side characters that well :( i like the little bits we still get with cats not from the main arcs, even if they were filler... sobs
@drawingstool 😭 they should of just left him as an aggressive man who isn't afraid to get his paws dirty, and obviously he loves his family..that's it. They should of made him a grieving husband and left him at that.
0:17 why does Thisleclaw have blue eyes and no black triangles under his eyes here? Was this an animation error or is that supposed to be a different cat? I’m really confused.
that’s bluestar not thistleclaw
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question, in this amv, What would Spottedleaf be like? (not hate, just asking )
Like narratively?
If so, since this is not an AU, everything would happen as in cannon(?) if that's what you're asking. Though I think she would still be alive at this point in time of the AMV
@@drawingstooloooh
I really hate how they ruined thistleclaw, he was one of my fav characters until I discovered spottedleaf’s heart existed :’0 amazing work tho!
Wait what happened to the kit????
Went to become a great warrior in his clan
then when she died bro ran over to minors 😔 like he was good villain but then they made him a pedo😭🙏
Nah I hate Thistleclaw, love your art though
real and thank you
As a kid I liked him cause he was Snowfur's mate, but then-uhm no. But i would hope he still loved his family
Very lovely art & designs, but unfortunately, you really can’t pretend Spottedleaf’s Heart didn’t happen. :(
@@Sumopian thank you!
I agree, it is part of the cannon (as much as it makes me uncomfy with the delivery) and one of his irredeemable actions. It was not depicted due to audio length and i want to make it a flash back of his time with snow.