CNC LATHE?! - Router Add-On!
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- Опубліковано 10 лис 2018
- This video is a spindle build -- a spindle used as both a CNC lathe and 4th axis / indexer for the router.
Working better than I thought, but I've still got a long way to go.
Music:
Tag You're It - The Whole Other
Hermanos Ranchero - Biz Baz Studio - Наука та технологія
This is the only channel that can get me to sit down and watch a 30 minute video and still be upset when it ends
WTF 30 minutes. I wasn't even aware :-)
@@nogmeerjan i was just about to say the same thing
I concur.
Right with you there
same
Super video. My daughter is home and listening over my shoulder. She teaches "G" code in high school shop. I told her that I am too old to learn because I am 73. After a good beating from her, I have changed my mind about a few things. 1, she is stronger than I. 2, I can do this., 3, the bruises will heal soon enough.
Ask Tony to teach you the chop.
Never too old for anything man
Is your daughter married? I’m sure there could be romance in the coding...😊
Her personal information is not available from me.
you can parlay those bruises into some solid extorsion currency
Somehow you've managed to keep your viewers entertained while teaching difficult subject matter. I think you have the right mix of humor and technical information with exceptional video editing. I bet at least 80% of the viewer/subs don't own or plan to own any machinist tools, but you make the information quite interesting and fun to watch. Who wants to watch 20 minutes on thread pitch analysis and sine bar fundamentals?...apparently over a million! Well done Tony and thank you for putting so much thought and time into making these videos. They are well received. *tips hat*
Wonderfully summarised, Tony has a seriously entertaining and informative skillset across many many fields.
Bro i dont even own a drill
I owned a bunch of this stuff, but my wife and I “retired” and all of my stuff went away with the weather. Meanwhile I have since replaced $10k of sewing machines since the move. Apparently, all grandma’s sew around grandchildren ( I should’ve seen that coming). Well I’d imagine that spare bedroom might be kind of cluttered with a mill in the corner, and the cats would play he’ll with the chips.
"Things are about to get crazy"
*dials up amps from 10-11*
me: WHOA, THIS MAN IS INSANE!
You see, it's a double entendre because of the famous quote from the move Spinal Tap, "these go to eleven", these being guitar amps. Whereas he's changing the amps settings on the welder.
So, I'm sitting in my semi at a rest area. I'm fully expecting the cutting tool to crash into the work piece in the intro. Right as the cutter touches the work piece, the air brake pressure relief valve opens in the truck next to me. 😳 Yes, I jumped! 🤣
😂😂😂❤
Your video production and editing work is getting very outstanding TOT. It really makes watching a half hour video very pleasant indeed.
Wait, it was *that* long? I didn't even notice.
Yeah I had no clue I just wasted half an hour
You mean that karate chop at 7:22 was fake?
Yup, ToT's style is unique. Humorous, but just hitting the right amount of silliness without overdoing it.
Great sound effects to
Don't lie to us TOT... You didn't build this... You just left your mill and lathe alone in the garage too long and came to to find their offspring....
i like to think his garage goes full on sausage party
@@anikidwolfy Oh my Lordy that is going too far!
@@TinS0lder this hot old tony
He won't admit it because he hoped that the tig and the mill would get it on to produce a 3D-printer. But while the tig, ahem, sharpened its tungsten, the lathe got in between and the rest is history...
It’s amazing what evolution can do...
"I don't know what colour this is but its somewhere between battle ship grey and a British sun tan" :) hahaha
I prefer the Pugeot Sound Seattle area rust patina........ slightly rosier than the Brit pale fog tan :)
@@artmckay6704 i mean, i am pretty tan this year but i get you
@@wierdalien1 :)
Too much colour for British tan. Think of skimmed milk lol
Color**
I'm trying to get some of my own work done over here! Now I have to put everything down and go over to the couch and make myself comfortable and watch this!
same try to fix my Y axis here.
I was meant to be cooking...if clickspring posts a new video Im gonna starve
Wow that transition from twist bit to reamer!!! I swear I was watching Spielberg's work! TOT=FTW
Great video Tony. Something I noticed, just in case it helps (and in case you're still using this) is that the motor mounting flange is not square to the axis of the "shell" which holds your bearings. You can see the runout at 10:26 if you look closely. Anyway, thanks for all the great content - always a laugh and always a good lesson too.
Thank you! I had a rough day, started with a panic attack, ended with a great new video complete with everything I watch your videos for! Especially loved the happy welding music.
I'm still scratching my head as to why people would thumbs down these videos. Seriously... Why? Explain yourself. He doesn't click bait, has no commercials, is quite quick with his work, and adds some humor. Are you looking for music?! Broken fingers? Blood? Seriously...stop thumbing down stuff you probably don't understand anyway. Ok... I'm done... Whew.
Normally i'd say it's bots... but even the bots have a so much to appreciate in this video.
I would have to go with jealousy.
Same as when u thumbs down a random video u look at the comes up on recommendations that has little to do with anything you like.
Because they are in a position where their integrity is comprised.
Those saddo's do the same to Adrian Black, Big Clive and a few others even after the video has been uploaded for only a few minutes.
on the bird nests
just work with stainless steal and sell those as pot scrubbers
kokodin that’s actually a good idea for Tony to put in his UA-cam shop! Awesome! And just in time for Christmas...
🤣 Excellent idea!
"stainless steal"
steel
@sexiewasd I made a small one that burns wood with an hairdryer for a blower. Like a fool I put some charcoal in it and melted the bottom out of my steel crucible! Admittedly it was only very thin, so the next one will be the bottom of a non returnable 'W' sized oxygen cylinder.
@@ThyerHazard Their not so readily available in the UK. In fact all forging materials are hard to come by for the amateur.
TOT. What can I say? That was just Amazing. The Combination of the Machinist, Welding, Tooling. Metallurgy and CNC Knowledge can only be Compared to your Video Production and Brilliant Narration Skills.. UA-cam is a World Stage and You’re a National Treasure..
That's so sweet, I've been a machinist for almost 2 years now, and watching your videos really motivates and inspires me to take on projects of my own!
Love the Spinal Tap reference at 00:44
This one go to 11!
But why don't they just make 10 a bit higher and make that the highest?
@@NomadUniverse Because this one goes to 11
I remember from my machine design class that having set screws 180 deg apart is actually weaker and more prone to loosening than having them 120 or even 60 degrees apart. I think this was in Shigley's iirc. May not apply since you're grabbing a flat, but still a random fact of the day!
True, since the screws are opposing eachother rather than working together; so all your holding power is solely on the threads, not by friction against a face.
@@dimitar4y Well, damn! The things you learn in the comments of a ToT video!
Generally true, but there's one exception: if you use them (2 @ 180) to improve the holding of a self-holding taper, and incline the flats (and the screws) in the opposite direction from the flanks of the taper, so the vector sum of the two forces is a thrust axially, tightening the grip of the taper. The slightest slip will increase the tightening effect further still.
I've only recently come up with that idea (needing to transmit a sh*t tonne of torque without much available space) and it worked a charm.
The key difference is that tightening the screws, progressively and in turn, does not create or retain clearance as it would with a cylindrical fit.
@@Gottenhimfella Well, yes, if the screw is flat on it's pushy bit, it'll be useless. But if the screws point to eachother, but are off-center, and have little pyramid heads, they'll push the SIDES of the thread against the object for massive holding torque.
@@dimitar4y That's another way. Not quite as strong as flat-ended screws set at an angle, bearing on flat "whistle notches" milled across the shaft, because your solution provides only line contact between a conical screwpoint and a conical dimple. This means the material along this line will be displaced (by yielding) at a lower torque, leaving the joint vulnerable to reversing loads.
Amazing work Tony! It is refreshing to be able to follow your quest in these complicated projects, yet have understandable narrative. As always: great (and fun) editing too! Thanks for sharing your adventures :)
Another amazing video from TOT. The 36 Chambers of TOT is strong here.
I kept checking the time of the video hoping that it wasn't going to end. Exceptional job. Thank you for sharing.
"Between a battleship grey and a British suntan" lol. I resemble that remark!
"Ideally" this video should be LONGER
agreed
Always so impressive what you’re able to do. Inspiring!
Spinal Tap reference within the first 1 min...pure gold. Love your videos.
Turned it to eleven, havent you!
I read that in the voice of Colin Furze...
On the 11th no less
You know that programmers count from zero, right?
"I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 metal cuts once,
but I fear the man who has practiced 1 metal cut 10,000 times."
You are the master ThisOldSensei _{bows}_
"I was going to use nails, then stopped, took a deep breath and came to my senses" 😂
You are hilarious. Love your videos. Keep up the awesome work.
The discrepancy between machining skills and welding skills here is hilarious! From what I have seen more recently happy to see that gap has in large part closed :-)
Pants? I didn't sign up for this!
Brad Miles GOT MY HAT THO!
Put the spindle on the gantry, and fill the entire router table with tools. Dozens! Hundreds!
Gang tooling! This is a thing!
@@mafoose Brings new resonance to the expression "on the block"
NASA wants to: know your location.
I love that you remembered to sharpen your hand. I can't tell you how many projects I've had to scrap due to dull tools
The integrated CNC Lathe + XAZ CNC Miliing sounds like a killer combo. Congratulations to a yet another facet of your amazing adventures Tony!
ToT is literally the only UA-cam creator I like all his vids the second I start to view.
Well how exactly am I supposed to fully enjoy a ToT production with my pants on?
Close your eyes and pretend, I suppose ;)
I havent put on pants since '69 (aliens stealing my thought and all) but if there is anyone I'll trust with my thoughts being compromised its tot... and President Nixon
in a bubble bath, obviously.
In privacy of your home, please dont tot at your workplace
After all he isnt professional porn star
Watching your videos make me feel warm and fuzzy inside! I love engineering so much.
Although I'm no machinist in any way, I love watching and rewatching your videos for a few years now. Your style of editing just always cracks me up and has helped me through some tough times, so thanks TOT and keep up the good work!
Tony:
- "Things are about to get crazy"
- increases current on TIG by 1 amp
Promising start, must watch!! ;))
i just love that stepper motor winding up sound!
What a great hobby solution. Been wanting to make something like this for some years now, nice to see your approach on a mill turning head.
That's freaking amazing! I'm a cnc lathe machinist and to see both of those work is awesome! I've been diving into live tool programming for yesr and a half now for c-axis and it's a lot of fun! Btw awesome job with the setup. Hoping to play around with that stuff in the future.
TOTally Out of this World! I'm speechless.
I had a CNC teacher many years ago (40) that only had a Bridgeport CNC mill, but taught lathe programming using it by putting the stock in the collet and clamping the tool in the vise. In this manner, it was programmed just like any other CNC lathe - tool movement perpendicular to the center line was X, tool movement parallel to the centerline was Z. At that time it was all mostly manual programming (we did use a system/language called COMPACT II using a dial-up modem to a mainframe for some "CAM" type programming).
If you only do a few small parts once a month and don't mind sitting on the floor, bridgeports make fine lathes.
I love your creative videos.
I have not done any metal work since highschool. Good 20yrs now.
I don't own a lathe but somehow you got me watching this video. This channel is beyond it's scope. Well done.
Keep that chopping and sharp🤣🤣💪💪💪!
My favorite video ever! The joy of realizing my hero is human at 2:00 min in when the drill bit breaks ... priceless! Keep up the good work, this is a premium video channel with world class humor to boot! Thanks
well i just learned that whiskey is a terrible fluid to go out your nose and a terrible drink to have while watching your vids. british sun tan, that's good.
Pause when taking a sip. No nose-whiskey and the Video lasts longer.
That got me too.
You drink alcohol, you're so cool.
Oh man, snarfing whisky is the worst! It hurts so bad!
BrannDailor Are all of us who give this comment a thumbs-up British, do you think? But it was a great aside! Les
Note: When watching with your kids, you'll have to rewind the cold rolled karate chop about 75 times.
This is one ore rare occasions that I subscribe to a channel.
The reason is you are an excellent teacher. Clarity and humor are difficult to achieve.
To complicate is easy, but to simplify is extremely difficult.
I love that you pointed out the constant surface feet, i had no idea that mach 4 could do that!
Well time to nerd out again.
I've needed a new video This Old Tony...
As someone who only owns the basics (hammer, pliers, few screwdrivers), I can't stop watching these vids, and the humour is fantastic!
Getting back into it, 70 years old disabled and a perfect past time to build my own stuff for my little farm. Thank-you. very interesting..
That 1000 thou' punch was no editing trick, 2:20 look at his knuckles o_O
Nice attention to details!
1:30
*BRUCE LEE REINCARNATED*
looked infected
Brilliant! You editing is getting pretty good too.
Thanks! You are very serious and very funny in the same time: perfect combination!
I don't usually comment on your videos, but there's sublime melancholy about your videos. I didn't know you could make machining so boring err I mean; organic and subtle, yet somehow completely captivate and inspire me to tackle projects in my own life, out of sheer practicality of the outcome, despite how laborious the journey may be. Nice job.
Wait?! What!? Yours goes to eleven?
Connecting the motor shaft without a flexible cupling will cause the motor bearings to prematureley die because they will never be perfectly aligned to the bigger bearings and will get "directed" by them, eaven more so because its spinning very fast, you should realy implement a coupling before the expensive motor dies
spot on, having been working with shafts and motors for almost a decade no doubt that motor bearings wont last long without a flex coupling...
In cases like this we would have a bigger hole and use a keyed compensation plastic bush
I think the thing needs a 2:1 reduction planetary gearset. That would solve all the torque and locking problems and also reduce the need for removal of pants, as the lower speed will be less likely to cause unwanted evacuation.
Yes true for "lathe" ops. However, a flexible coupling would not be ideal when completing indexing ops as this would reduce the rigidity between the brake (motor holding position) and the part.
Please, ToT, see this comment and talk about this issue in the next video!
WOW!!! That is fantastic! You've come a LOOONNNGG way with your mill!
Absolutely fantastic video. I'm amazed how creative, and productive you are. Keep up with this quality content! Cheers Csaba
When you were installing the bearings i distinctly heard another voice in the background saying " tappy tap tap "
I sometimes hear a voice yell: "Coenteact!"
Superbulous Tony, Thank you!
Top quality TOT! All thumbs up! Thanks TOT, could you please give up your day job and just produce these informative, honest, hilarious gems for us very appreciative folk full time???
I appreciate the music. I always wondered what it would sound like during a montage of a family fixing up their cozy hut as they accept this once-frightening island upon which they found themselves shipwrecked is actually a paradise, and more importantly, their new home.
Edit: then, I guess they have a polka party.
I really enjoy the mix of the humour and video effect but I draw the line at ‘British suntan’ 🤨 But all said a done, another great video - thanks for sharing. 👍 John 🇬🇧😋
After all is said and done ... more is said than done. Usually.
Not with TOT obviously. 😉
I'm a Brit and I laughed out load at that.
Sitting in an English garden
Waiting for the sun
If the sun don't come you get a tan
From standing in the English rain
Tony, regarding your bird nest problem, why not just use an end mill in your spindle instead? Your feeds/ speeds seem reasonably light enough.
Ok so ive been a pressure relief valve technician for 18 years and have recently moved to a new company who repairs many more types of valves, so long story short i need to learn to machine and weld. Your channel has given me some very serious inspiration as to what to do to start getting comfortable with more than just taking a simple skim cut or re establishing seat dimensions, i am going to start looking for a reasonable mini lathe where i can start to teach my self how to cut threads and turn parts from raw stock. You are really an inspiring guy tony so thank you for sharing your humor, skill, and insight.
In lieu of new videos, I’m watching older videos from ToT. Goddamn they are so good. Maybe the best I’ve ever seen on YT. Even if I had zero interest in the subject matter, the production, the writing, and the editing, are just top notch. Miss you Tony!
Strapped in with hat on.
Better than strapped on with hat in 😂😂
But no pants to be found? You are a savage!
I’d put you up there with Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton for mastery of visual comedy.
You do know that most of the people reading your comment, will be saying WHO THE HELL is Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton, I don't recall them walking on the moon.
Beautiful work as always, I am in awe of your skills..
Tony, your skills are pretty darn remarkable.
"This is about to get crazy." Turns the dial to 11. Haha, so subtle and so hilarious!
What are the chances of doing a video on a pneumatic brake for the new add-on? :) Maybe using it as a infinite precision dividing head, and solve the holding torque issue with that brake. Maybe even using a disc brake behind the chuck and a brake jaw to lock it. Would be a lot of fun + a handy tutorial for my next build :DDDDDD Awesome vid mate!
Electromagnetic brake would also work well. Electromagnetic so the chips fall off when the power is off.
A pneumatic/solenoid operated pipe strap?
Obviously this all assumes the play can't be eliminated in settings or other hardware... Contacting the motor rep/help line and finding out if the motor is capable of holding position without any lash would be my first step.
It's a steeper... It "locks" itself. (Enough to do the very light work he'd be doing with the router.)
J-man72 b I think electromagnetic brakes have sort of like steps, they dont have infinite resolution so to say. They would rotate the spindle a few degrees towards that fixed position. Maybe there are EM brakes that dont have that issue but when i was looking around, all i found were these ones :/
Andrew Delashaw Not sure now if it was a stepper or an AC servo anymore, but either way, locking itself in would be a much more reliable feature than depending on the motor to hold on for dear life :D
@@lukaradakovic5463 I like your disc brake idea, myself. It would need to be carefully engineered not to disturb the rotary location when actuated. This would allow the motor to be optimised for horsepower rather than holding force. I wonder if an encoder could be used to enhance positional accuracy?
Dear This Old Tony,
Your videos are absolutely fantastic, it's like you hit a home run every time.
I enjoy every minute, well done buddy...
You do some amazing work my friend, I’m impressed.
I like you,I like how you explain stuff,I like your sense of humor I....I subscribe thank you very much for the content :)
Have you considered, say, an electromagnetic brake (steal the clutch off an automotive AC compressor?) to get rid of that last bit of play? Would be a good upgrade option for higher spindle speeds without needing as much holding force, if you ever find yourself contemplating a different motor that is.
TOT continues to entertain, educate and impress. Favorite home machinist channel, hands down!
Love it when you turn it up a notch like that
Love the Spinal Tap reference!
My British suntan is one shade darker grey than that paint, I’ll have you know dear chap.
Milled my first gear today.... 36 tooth 14.5 pressure angle 16 DP for my old 12" Atlas / Craftsman lathe..... THANKS TONY!!!!! Also anyone who may have a worn out lead screw on they're Craftsman lathe.... ( mostly due to it's dual purpose of threads and feed ) I removed mine, flipped it 180 degrees, machined the drive end to fit the old tail end brass bushing, and made a sleeve for the drive end!!! Turns threads like new now.... No need to buy or build a new lead screw!!
Thanks for your channel Tony!!!!
Been an AvE subscriber for 5 years now. How I missed this channel is beyond me. Sir, you have my complete attention, and a loyal subscriber starting now.
"A grinder and paint makes me the welder I ain't"
Casey Thimm for the perfect manufacturing team you add, btf/ ptm. Beat to fit/ paint to match.
TOT buying bolts... One question comes to mind: WHAT DID YOU DO TO THE POOR CAT???
I spent most my weekend watching your videos. love the style and commentary so funny
The welding/brazing music at 10:28 made me picture ToT with a sombrero shaped welding helmet.
I could watch your videos all day long and never get tired of them. They have the perfect mix of content and humor.
Please don't ever stop making such awesome videos!
I'm so glad you machined those parts for Wintergatan-Martin, opening my eyes to this channel. Best YT binging in years! And those collab marble elevator videos you did are truly magical :')
I found him because of Alex's pasta machine
Maybe look at car wheel bearings in the future?
Both educational and entertaining, as usual. The welding music is genious!
I learn at least 3 new things every time and enjoy the editing. Soon I'll be a machinist and a video editor. Thanks Old Tony!
British suntan! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Greetings from rainy uk.
Ah, electrical tape will always be the perfect shop bandaid.
Jack Burton so long as there isn’t superglue handy somewhere.
The lack of ads keeps me watching this constantly. And I cant forget to mention it's well made!
Amazing vid Tony! Love the content editing and humor! Looking forward to the next one!
Those music playing tools must be so expensive!
It's a spied audio from Germany. Costs? Well we'll talk about this later. So far: none to the slave author. Tool costs? Ask nasa/nsa. They probably won't answer. Maybe Donnie muppet will.
CNC ocarina?
@@williamchamberlain2263 They used to cut vinyl record masters on a lathe.
@@Gottenhimfella driven from the original recording on wax?
@@williamchamberlain2263 That's going back a long long way. From about WW2 era, acetates were used. Live recordings could be (and in boutique studios, for maximum fidelity, still are) mixed straight to a recording lathe, on which a master disc was cut. Also known as an acetate, but it was basically a layer of special lacquer on an aluminium base. More usually, the mix would be captured on magnetic tape, possibly multi-track, allowing subsequent tweaks. This could then be output as analogue signal to the toolpost of a lathe, cut to an "acetate", which was plated with metal, then used to make negative metal molds or "stamper", which in turn would stamp vinyl copies in large quantities.
The acetate itself could be played (with very high fidelity) on a standard turntable, tone arm and stylus, but would not last long.
How do you know I'm not wearing pants!?
UA-cam analytics data.
I like machining because how easy it is to be precise. You can make thing so exact and it’s so satisfying
You can make almost anything or the tools needed to make almost anything. Very nice
when see a good job, is old tony again.. its nice to see quality not just youtubers clearly wihout knowledge