Homie, you got me all messed up! Just stumbled across one of you videos. Now subbed for life. My next door neighbor had a 310 and started a club called Cessna 310 Owners of America. Got to fly in it a couple times as a youngster, taking the yoke at 180+knts was something none of my friends had done, and a memory I will always have! Keep the videos coming!
We were camping in the EAA campground for that storm. We ended up sleeping in the car because of the severe thunderstorm warning! Great videos and I love the plane. I did my multi training in a ‘64 310I, great airplane! Glad I found your channel!
Kevin I flew into Oshkosh a few years ago to the seaplane base. We Slept in a tent there and had one of their famous rain storms overnight. Being a cub not much baggage. So we ad sleeping bags on foam pad. When the water poured over the door sill of the tent it was a very cold night. Great times.
You guys always do a good job. Your take on parking issues at Oshkosh, then issues commuting; shows a different real side of THE BIG SHOW! Glad you enjoyed yourselves non the less
Yeah -- you guys and the videos are great. Your demeanor as a pilot and as a husband are inspiring to me as a dude, and the same can be said about Jaime as a person. I read a comment that mentioned how clean everything is (as in language), and come to think of it that is pretty refreshing. On top of that, great video, commentary, and audio. High IQ all the way around -- Thanks!
We had a similar weather experience at OSH in '93, thunderstorms building and collapsing, feeding themselves. We were in our bags with our hands over our ears.
Another good video Kevin. My wife, Debi, watched the video with me and she was able to relate with Jamie’s response. I am encouraging Debi to talk to controllers even though she is not a pilot. She of course is not ATC either, but I am sure she could do it. Jamie talking to controllers is helping her realize she can do it.
Thanks Timothy...glad ya'll liked it! Also happy that it may help your wife start talking on the mic...it's really cool for us because it helps me and keeps here involved/interested.
Really enjoying your videos! My husband is an Army fixed wing pilot (and Georgia boy as well) wanting to get a plane, but just the thought scares me to death lol Seeing you and your wife fly gives me a little better idea of what it might be like and made it a little less scary ;) Thanks!
Always enjoyable watching you two work so well together. Having flown 310's in the past I had to smile at the dutch roll mode being excited on your approach to landing with a little turbulence (yaw damper off). You are probably doing this, but if not, I found keeping both feet with slight pressure on the rudder pedals tended to dampen this tendency.
I ran a tank dry one time just to see what happened. Just like you said, the gauge start to wiggle just before it went dry. Switched tanks without a single hiccup. My wife was asleep in the right seat and never knew it until I told her. She didn't like it, but there was nothing she could do about it. :-) Good landing after a few flight prolonging gusts. I've been to Osh Kosh 3 times. I've never landed there. We like to stay at Lang's fish camp in Winneconne (9WN1 is a doctor's private strip, friend of Mr. Lang's). Mary Honeck's grandmother was from there. Mr. Lang provided us with his suburban to drive and it was a great experience. Cabins on lake Winneconne are old but very nice. Better than a tent in a thunderstorm. :-) Thanks for the video Kevin. I'd like to go back some day. Alan from Oklahoma also.
Glad you enjoyed this one too Alan! The Honeck's are great people...hoping to make the Hops party a tradition. On long cruises Jaime usually sleeps a bit as well...I'll take your advise and plan and future use all the aux's during that time. :) Hope to see you out there at a future show!
Funny you mention it...my next flight I'm trying to start editing now has a pretty interesting approach in it as well. Looking forward to the dull flights again. :) Go Dawgs!
My dad ran the tanks dry all the time. He did it once and filled a emergency into kpdt before he realized what was going on. Scared the hell out of me first time that I experienced that feeling. We lost the turbo a couple of times in the Duke that we had
living in Wisconsin between Milwaukee and Madison I see the different planes from the Oshkosh show, huge plane lover. Could sit at an airport all day lol.
Great videos and glad to see you representing UGA with the hat in your videos. I went to UGA 86-91 and flew Lear 24's, 25's and 35's out of AHN from 97-01. I have always loved the 310 and watching your videos makes me want to buy one.
Great video as usual, guys. For Jaime, depleting the aux tanks gives me the same dead engine and I can't even tell you how many times it's happened over the years. Kinda normal procedure, like putting the gear down or lowering flaps. You get so used to it, it's a non-event and nothing to cause an increased heart rate. Tiny amount of rudder, turn the lever and the engine picks up instantly, good to go.
Glad you enjoyed this one as well Raymond! Glad to have some of you guys that understand twin cessna's be able to explain to the crowd that I'm not crazy. :)
LOL! No, you're not crazy. The twin cessnas, or at least the 300 and 400 series with the tip tanks all have about the same fuel system, and to the uninitiated it can seem daunting. Really pretty simple once you get the hang of it, as you know. And I kinda like watching the mains refill when you run the aux. Seems like free fuel. When you wear the paint off your 310, you oughta consider getting a Golden Eagle. Same plane, really, just bigger. and more comfortable. If you don't mind the fuel burn, it'll also knock on 300 mph's door.
I got to go up in a '76 Cessna 172 a couple weekends back - first time up in 34+ years! You won't hear me picking on Jamie for being scared - been so long since I've flown, it was like I never had before. I was pretty nerved up when we first left the ground - it's so unnatural! My brain was saying, "THIS SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING!" hahaha! A Got used to it eventually. It was my wife's VERY first time up in a fixed wing (I talked her into a helicopter sight-seeing ride over Niagra Falls 17 years ago - that was AMAZING!!). She had this nervous laughter going on as we left ground effect - wish I could've caught that on film. BEAUTIFUL sight of the sun shining through distant clouds on the horizon - there were all these beams of light coming down, like God Himself was guiding us along. It was absolutely AMAZING!! The view of the ground from 1,500 feet is something I don't get to see very often - the cars looked fake down below, like little Matchbox cars, hahaha! Was really strange, and cool at the same time. Sure wish I had more opportunities to get up there, but I'll take what I can get! Great video! Always love flying with you guys virtually. Thanks Kevin & Jamie! 👍👍 🍻
Holy cow, you're like me.. answering every comment. Woah... lots of work. Anyway the moment I saw the opening shot, I thought... THAT SUCKS.... LOL. I feel so bad you guys got stuck out there. That storm was craaaaazzzzy... I just opened the door for a moment to watch the lightening show and went back into my warm and dry rented, air conditioned, trailer in the warbirds camping. Hahah, I'm bragging because this is the first year I actually splurged and didn't stay in the dorms. Well worth it. BTW UA-cam is helping you out... this video was put right in front of my face.. and I'm glad it was. Great video and a beautiful plane. Just a fantastic machine. Only one problem with what I'm seeing, (or what I'm not seeing) No mountains.... I'm from California and am used to lots of beautiful mountains to fly over. Let me show you some mountain flying... I'm not going to put a link because youtube doesn't always like them in the comments, but click on my icon and then click on the video that says gold mining. I guarantee you won't be disappointed. See you next year at OSH... thanks again for sharing.
Excellent video as always--you were Johnny on the spot with switching tanks Kevin--was surprised with Jaime's reaction though. You all need to come south!!
Thanks for the ride Kev and Jaime. Kev, you SURE know your C310's Aux Tanks.!!! Thanks for the Fuel Management Refresher..... lol Take care you guys and thanks for sharing.
I ALWAYS (not yelling just emphasizing) enjoy your videos! Just a pleasure to watch, no annoying background music blocking the radio coms, and your videos of your flights are always very relaxing and enjoyable! Even if Jaime got a little adrenaline jolt when the aux tank ran dry. Speaking of that, I asked a question about that in reply in another comment out of curiosity as I really couldnt tell what happened. I'm sure you'll find it. I probably should have read all the comments first in case it was already asked, if so, my apologies in advance! I'll read thru them. Its a shame you didn't get to park at oshkosh! They definately need to give a little more love to the twins! Safe flights to you always! PS: I recently downloaded the flightaware app to my phone, just for kicks, but find most of the pilots I care to follow block it. I guess its kind of creepy thinking of people being able to know when you take off and where youre going, like giving a stalker a tracking device for your vehicle lol just makes good sense for security! I still get a kick out of checking out whats flying over our home as we get a ton of traffic into and out of PDX plus lots of GA planes.
Just an idea. After almost 10,000 hours in twin Cessnas I would switch to aux tanks at 10 minute intervals so they wouldn’t both run dry at the same time. Love your flying videos. I feel like I’m with you.
Thanks for the suggestion Ed! I only have about 600 hours in them but sure do love them! I do the 5 minute split on selecting them and have tested them out several times. That seems to work well and I've never had to worry about them both running out at the same time. Maybe I'll re-think my sop.
Kevin, I did the same thing to my wife on a trip back from Texas. I never thought to tell her what I was doing. She had the same reaction and I still hear about it from time to time. One side note... She now watches the fuel gauges like a hawk... :-) Nice job as usual with the video. Fly safe and blue skies to you both...
Thanks Mac! That's funny that you put your wife through the same thing. :) I bet Jaime will be asking me regularly or watching the timer for a while when on the aux's. Twin Cessna guys like yourself understand how semi-common this is. Some others can be concerned. :) Stay safe up there...hope this Hurricane doesn't mess anything up for you!
So far we've been lucky. With the turn to the south after landfall it took it away from us. We've had a little wind and rain. Thanks for the thoughts... Most people think our fuel system is complicated because they don't understand it. Having the numbers for the aux tanks is part of our management process.
310 Pilot Another great video. Keep them coming. The one thing on this video and the one on your way up to Oshkosh - I wish you would have said where you are when flying over towns etc... Since I live in JVL and right under flight path to Madison and Milwaukee JVL and Chicago. I see planes all the time.
I can see how she could've been startled at that moment, but on the other hand, it's probably a good idea to deal with the problem immediately, and talk when possible. I bet she understands that. :)
Glad to bring back fond memories Bob! I'm guessing with that much time in twin Cessna's you've ran an aux dry at least once...I know this isn't my first time. Next time I will give her a heads up. :)
Bob Thomason - I have about that much in a Baron. Watching this made me wish some was in a 310. I always loved the stance and look of a 310 with its tip tanks.
Yep it happens. Especially when your brain is somewhere else. With a little altitude it's usually not a serious issue. Can be a little nerve racking to passengers though.
Randy Porter : I'm not a pilot; just an aviation buff. The 310 has always been one of my favorite airplanes. Maybe that comes from watching Sky King on TV when I was a kid? :) The tip tanks just help make it look cool, IMHO. Kind of like a little mini Lockheed Constellation L-1049 "Super G" with tip tanks. :)
The C310 looks fast even when parked. Built models of the 310 as a kid. Kevin, you clearly fly your plane like you own it. Jamie handles the radio like a pro. Impressive team in the cockpit. The C172 I fly is nice for sure, but I've always wished to fly in a 310 some day. Is that a Georgia hat ? I lived in Athens for 5 years. Go Dawgs !
Thank you for the nice comment John! I learned to fly at Athens airport in 152's while at UGA. Go Dawgs! Went to high school just south of there in Oconee County...miss the area.
"Got your ears up" is CB language and doesn't belong in aviation. The defroster air comes out of the gasoline heater which could be turn on immediately, even if the engines aren't running...unless Cessna changed the heating system since I flew one years ago.
Man, what a small world ! I lived just down the road from that airport in Green Acres, by Cedar Shoals High. Use to sit and watch airplanes takeoff and land for hours. Also lived in Peoria as a kid. Lastly, it's a pleasure to see how kind you and Jamie are with each other. My wife and I too are best friends. Safe travels !
Lived in WI for 30+ until moving to The Old Pueblo. I miss the green n water. If you think the lightning is impressive there, come to where all the photos of lighting purple clouds and heat lightning are taken.
What camera are you using for the view out the front (ceiling mounted one)? I've been drinking and I am on amazon in the GoPro aIsle. Hope you guys are doing well. Hope to catch up w/ you at KY part 2. Let's ride the beacon and do some formation flying!!
Hey Bryan, sorry for the late reply...was working late last night. Drinking and amazoning would have been more fun. :) The forward facing camera is the GoPro Hero5 Black. Works really well for picture/stability/etc. Things are going well. We were hoping to see ya'll at Gaston's again this year but not sure if we'll be able to swing it or not unfortunately. I really enjoyed that last year. E sent me the dates for KY2 and I have that reserved for time off next year...if I don't see you around somewhere before then. Formation flying and riding the beacon will happen this year!
It's a big sky but midairs happen every now and then. It's always important to stay vigilant and use ATC or the new cockpit traffic tools to stay safe.
Maybe an improvement in organisation for next years event will be appreciated by visitors. As long as you had a great time that's what matters in the end i guess. Flight home looks quite smooth and enjoyable. Wonder if that last second wind call helped with the landing ? Thanks mate.
Hey Spiro! Hopefully they get a little better on the parking there. I'm not pretending that controlling that isn't a logistical nightmare but I think they could improve a bit. It was a blast and that is the most important thing.
Seeing this video, I completely agree with your thoughts on the logistics at OSH. Wx (and how it affected the planes travelling to OSH) made getting into the airport Sunday impossible, despite still being open to singles. The number of airplanes not flying the procedure was unreal, and it lead to some extensive holding, and being cut off numerous times. If its like that again, they're gonna start needing controllers at RIPON/Green Lake. Side note, Storm Force Tie Downs are also pretty great! We survived Stormpocalypse FLD 2018 no problem. Too bad the Shuttle cost us $181. :(
I've heard the same stories as yours about the mess on Sunday...glad it wasn't bad when we went it. As we mentioned...I'm not a fan of the shuttle. I hope we can make it into OSH next year to stay!
I like how you verbalize throttles full power MAKING full power. I got into a situation not long ago heavy plane just a 172 but heavy hot high 9000' DA field. Every number was carefully calculated under max weight within W&B etc after 3 aborted takeoffs last one much scarier than I like to admit rented a car did what we had to went back the next day pretty similar conditions only just me in the plane this time and I didnt realize it then but watching your videos now even with the mixture leaned for max power and full throttle i was only reaching the bottom end of the green power arc. That's a good call out and check to make that I think often gets overlooked but is a big one, everyone just rattles off gauges green and off they go BUT just because the throttle is fire walled doesnt always mean youre ACTUALLY making full power and you end up sliding to a stop on the last inch of remaining runway like we did.
Very nice VFR flight back to Aurora. Nothing like a little levity during the flight to maintain the viewers interest. Jaime is quite the character! Did Jaime ever express an interest in becoming a pilot? She seems to be quite content handling the radios and you doing the flying. Always enjoy your videos. Glad you had a good time in Oshkosh!
I forgot to mention Lake Geneva while flying over. Pretty nice like when it's not too crowded. It was dealt with! :) It's an inside joke with the controllers at Chicago Approach. :)
She didn't seam to happy about your idea of running out of gas in the aux tank. To funny, my brother did the same thing years ago when we were on a family trip from KY to Texas and we were in the clouds, in a Cherokee 6 at 7K feet. I remember o so well.
Jamie & Kevin, thanks for another great video! Thanks too for elaborating on the FUBAR at OSH parking & the less than ideal logistics of shuttling to and from FDL. Jaime’s “can’t feel her legs moment” reminds me of a C195 running out of gas climbing to altitude at 6,500 over Clewiston, FL with me and 4 other skydivers aboard. My girlfriend was facing rearward next to the door. When things coughed and got quiet, her eyes got the size of lemons, the lexan rolled-up fast, and she (and three others) were out the door like rats off a burning ship. They landed off-field; trudged 45 minutes through summer heat and sugar cane-dodging gators and snakes-to get back. 🤣
I’ve owned a Q model over 18 years and have really enjoyed it. Use to scare passengers when I ran my aux tanks dry. I found that timing them to 38 minutes with an alarm burned the fuel down close enough and didn’t have to devote so much time to watching the gauges. Because of the way the fuel system works it didn’t make a difference what power settings I used. Your airplane seems a lot faster than mine...do you have larger engines than the IO470VO?
Thank you Charles... a fellow 310 pilot who understands our fuel system! :) I've learned from the different twin cessna's that I've flown that they all pump out of the aux's at slightly different speeds. I usually do 1 hour but wanted to test the absolute limit. Turns out mine was 1 hour and 4 minutes. I have the same 470VO's...I purposely sought out one like this as they seem to last the longest without as many worries in 310's. Mine have about 450-500 hours on them and I recently O/H'ed the props. I usually true out at about 175 kts at 24-25 gph ROP. I can do LOP and save some gas but I prefer the speed. Thanks for your comment and for watching!
Scared me too, Jamie! Make sure he pays attention to that in the future - my heart can't take that kind of shock and I dare say neither can yours! ;-) Glad you all enjoyed your trip. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it Robert! Running the aux dry is semi-normal ops in twin cessna's...my mistake was forgetting to tell her the possibility so it wasn't unexpected. :)
310 Pilot I remember an earlier video where you mentioned how you usually time your tank management's so that you don't actually run dry so when this happened I was surprised it had snuck up on you. Also thought it funny at the same time because I knew you weren't literally out of fuel, just startled. But still, an adrenaline rush I'm sure you can do without. I really appreciate the videos you and Jamie publish. I live in KY and appreciate that you fly in my neck of the woods on occasion such as the KY Dam fly-in a while back. Please keep the great work coming. Take care of the awesome little boy of yours. He reminds me so much of my grandson when he was his age (couple of years ago). He was so well behaved in the plane and obviously loves his dad. It's great to see that between a dad and his son. Enjoy it while you can because they grow up SO fast.
Thank you for another nice comment Robert! I usually do one hour and that usually leaves about 2-3 gallons in the tanks. I had planned to test it by running them till the start to fluctuate but I zoned out for a few seconds. Now I know it's 1 hour and 4 min. :)
I knew there would be at least one comment on this when I was editing it. The cameras always make the visibility look a bit worse than actuality (whether it is clouds, haze or in this case water). I could see the taxiway well enough to be safe and knew on takeoff it would clear up quickly. Sorry for giving you guys a restricted view in the beginning.
Gotta admit that Jaime's expression on her face at 15:30 as Kevin rationalizes the process for flying to empty and then switching tanks, is one that says clearly "I am not impressed!"
If I may, I would like to share a very inspiring pilot's story about his leadership: www.inc.com/leigh-buchanan/sully-sullenberger-leadership-lessons.html
Donald...you are my kind of guy! I just reworked our deer stands this past week...ready for opening day. Happy hunting this year! Glad you enjoyed the video.
After looking more, it appears the twin on street view is at the other end of the hangar area than where you park. But I'm pretty sure it is a 310. In street view on Highway 30, look between the second and third row of hangars at the west end. You should see the fuel truck driving west on the service road.
John, I actually run them with the same fuel flow. Each mixture lever is set up slightly different and my old round dial fuel gauge isn't very accurate. I have digital fuel flows on my engine monitor screen (hard to see from the cameras and I run them within a tenth of a gallon of each other. Hope this helps. :)
She shoulden't feel so nervous/scared given she has the state-of-the-art ejection seat parachute system like the military fighters w/ the twin pull to deploy grips...oh....oh geeze! I guess those are "hoop" earrings...lol! just kidden.
Another very cool video! Really love the slow hum of those engines! Very smooth. But, wow, the approach was pretty Squirelly!! Is that an American thing? :-) All the best from another one across The Pond!
I have flown into Fond du Lac the last couple years after having flown into OSH several times. It is a lot easier. I take an Uber to OSH and it is a lot better than taking the shuttle in my opinion. It costs more, but is easier.
Homie, you got me all messed up! Just stumbled across one of you videos. Now subbed for life. My next door neighbor had a 310 and started a club called Cessna 310 Owners of America. Got to fly in it a couple times as a youngster, taking the yoke at 180+knts was something none of my friends had done, and a memory I will always have! Keep the videos coming!
We were camping in the EAA campground for that storm. We ended up sleeping in the car because of the severe thunderstorm warning! Great videos and I love the plane. I did my multi training in a ‘64 310I, great airplane! Glad I found your channel!
Kevin I flew into Oshkosh a few years ago to the seaplane base. We Slept in a tent there and had one of their famous rain storms overnight. Being a cub not much baggage. So we ad sleeping bags on foam pad. When the water poured over the door sill of the tent it was a very cold night. Great times.
You guys always do a good job.
Your take on parking issues at Oshkosh, then issues commuting; shows a different real side of THE BIG SHOW!
Glad you enjoyed yourselves non the less
Glad you enjoyed it Lee...thank you!
Forward facing camera is awesome, great clarity and nice wide view! Thanks for the ride, enjoyed it as always!
Awesome...thank you Chuck!
Can’t agree more 👍
Yeah -- you guys and the videos are great. Your demeanor as a pilot and as a husband are inspiring to me as a dude, and the same can be said about Jaime as a person. I read a comment that mentioned how clean everything is (as in language), and come to think of it that is pretty refreshing. On top of that, great video, commentary, and audio. High IQ all the way around -- Thanks!
Wow...thank you for the nice comment Jack! Glad you are enjoying the videos. :)
I’m new to your channel and just love it. Both of you are really good people. Kind and supportive of each other. And Jamie drives a Jag! Beautiful.
We had a similar weather experience at OSH in '93, thunderstorms building and collapsing, feeding themselves. We were in our bags with our hands over our ears.
Another good video Kevin. My wife, Debi, watched the video with me and she was able to relate with Jamie’s response. I am encouraging Debi to talk to controllers even though she is not a pilot. She of course is not ATC either, but I am sure she could do it. Jamie talking to controllers is helping her realize she can do it.
Thanks Timothy...glad ya'll liked it! Also happy that it may help your wife start talking on the mic...it's really cool for us because it helps me and keeps here involved/interested.
Really enjoying your videos! My husband is an Army fixed wing pilot (and Georgia boy as well) wanting to get a plane, but just the thought scares me to death lol Seeing you and your wife fly gives me a little better idea of what it might be like and made it a little less scary ;) Thanks!
Great videos. The throaty sound of the twin Cessna engines on takeoff is music to my ears.
Me too Todd. :) Glad you are enjoying the videos.
I lost my father B-52 H 2 months ago..Minot AFB..This helps me your channel :)
Always enjoyable watching you two work so well together. Having flown 310's in the past I had to smile at the dutch roll mode being excited on your approach to landing with a little turbulence (yaw damper off). You are probably doing this, but if not, I found keeping both feet with slight pressure on the rudder pedals tended to dampen this tendency.
"That was fun, wasn't it?" Answer : No! Jamie is 100% genuine... 🙂
Ha ha...yeah she is. :)
I ran a tank dry one time just to see what happened. Just like you said, the gauge start to wiggle just before it went dry. Switched tanks without a single hiccup. My wife was asleep in the right seat and never knew it until I told her. She didn't like it, but there was nothing she could do about it. :-) Good landing after a few flight prolonging gusts. I've been to Osh Kosh 3 times. I've never landed there. We like to stay at Lang's fish camp in Winneconne (9WN1 is a doctor's private strip, friend of Mr. Lang's). Mary Honeck's grandmother was from there. Mr. Lang provided us with his suburban to drive and it was a great experience. Cabins on lake Winneconne are old but very nice. Better than a tent in a thunderstorm. :-) Thanks for the video Kevin. I'd like to go back some day. Alan from Oklahoma also.
Glad you enjoyed this one too Alan! The Honeck's are great people...hoping to make the Hops party a tradition. On long cruises Jaime usually sleeps a bit as well...I'll take your advise and plan and future use all the aux's during that time. :) Hope to see you out there at a future show!
Let us know when you're going down to Port Aransas and we'll try to make it. Jay and Mary are great hosts and great people.
Never a dull moment huh Kevin,glad y'all made it safe......oh yeah, start time changed from 7:15 to 12 :00 for the game on Sat.. Go Dawgs -Jerry
Funny you mention it...my next flight I'm trying to start editing now has a pretty interesting approach in it as well. Looking forward to the dull flights again. :) Go Dawgs!
My dad ran the tanks dry all the time. He did it once and filled a emergency into kpdt before he realized what was going on. Scared the hell out of me first time that I experienced that feeling. We lost the turbo a couple of times in the Duke that we had
living in Wisconsin between Milwaukee and Madison I see the different planes from the Oshkosh show, huge plane lover. Could sit at an airport all day lol.
Another fantastic video production. Thank you for sharing. Love it. Looking forward to another.
Awesome...glad you are enjoying them!
As always a good show. Thank you.
Great videos and glad to see you representing UGA with the hat in your videos. I went to UGA 86-91 and flew Lear 24's, 25's and 35's out of AHN from 97-01. I have always loved the 310 and watching your videos makes me want to buy one.
Great video as usual, guys. For Jaime, depleting the aux tanks gives me the same dead engine and I can't even tell you how many times it's happened over the years. Kinda normal procedure, like putting the gear down or lowering flaps. You get so used to it, it's a non-event and nothing to cause an increased heart rate. Tiny amount of rudder, turn the lever and the engine picks up instantly, good to go.
Glad you enjoyed this one as well Raymond! Glad to have some of you guys that understand twin cessna's be able to explain to the crowd that I'm not crazy. :)
LOL! No, you're not crazy. The twin cessnas, or at least the 300 and 400 series with the tip tanks all have about the same fuel system, and to the uninitiated it can seem daunting. Really pretty simple once you get the hang of it, as you know. And I kinda like watching the mains refill when you run the aux. Seems like free fuel. When you wear the paint off your 310, you oughta consider getting a Golden Eagle. Same plane, really, just bigger. and more comfortable. If you don't mind the fuel burn, it'll also knock on 300 mph's door.
I got to go up in a '76 Cessna 172 a couple weekends back - first time up in 34+ years! You won't hear me picking on Jamie for being scared - been so long since I've flown, it was like I never had before. I was pretty nerved up when we first left the ground - it's so unnatural! My brain was saying, "THIS SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING!" hahaha! A Got used to it eventually. It was my wife's VERY first time up in a fixed wing (I talked her into a helicopter sight-seeing ride over Niagra Falls 17 years ago - that was AMAZING!!). She had this nervous laughter going on as we left ground effect - wish I could've caught that on film. BEAUTIFUL sight of the sun shining through distant clouds on the horizon - there were all these beams of light coming down, like God Himself was guiding us along. It was absolutely AMAZING!! The view of the ground from 1,500 feet is something I don't get to see very often - the cars looked fake down below, like little Matchbox cars, hahaha! Was really strange, and cool at the same time. Sure wish I had more opportunities to get up there, but I'll take what I can get!
Great video! Always love flying with you guys virtually. Thanks Kevin & Jamie! 👍👍 🍻
Glad you liked the video Smitty! That's awesome you got to get back up in the air after so long. Be careful...it's addictive. :)
Hahaha, ain't that the truth! :)
Holy cow, you're like me.. answering every comment. Woah... lots of work. Anyway the moment I saw the opening shot, I thought... THAT SUCKS.... LOL. I feel so bad you guys got stuck out there. That storm was craaaaazzzzy... I just opened the door for a moment to watch the lightening show and went back into my warm and dry rented, air conditioned, trailer in the warbirds camping. Hahah, I'm bragging because this is the first year I actually splurged and didn't stay in the dorms. Well worth it.
BTW UA-cam is helping you out... this video was put right in front of my face.. and I'm glad it was. Great video and a beautiful plane. Just a fantastic machine. Only one problem with what I'm seeing, (or what I'm not seeing) No mountains.... I'm from California and am used to lots of beautiful mountains to fly over. Let me show you some mountain flying... I'm not going to put a link because youtube doesn't always like them in the comments, but click on my icon and then click on the video that says gold mining. I guarantee you won't be disappointed. See you next year at OSH... thanks again for sharing.
Excellent video as always--you were Johnny on the spot with switching tanks Kevin--was surprised with Jaime's reaction though. You all need to come south!!
Great video guys! Minus the parking and having to shuttle, looked like you guys had a good time. As always, thanks for sharing!
You guys are the best. See u next time
Thanks Rich
Glad you enjoyed it Rich!
this is great fun.. especially for an older man.. just fun and informative.. thanks for the ride.!!
Glad you enjoyed it Donald...thanks for the feedback!
Thanks for posting this video. I know it's a lot of work.
You're welcome...it is a bit of work but I'm enjoying doing it as long as ya'll are enjoying watching them. :)
I'm really enjoying these videos. Thanks guys!
Glad you're enjoying the videos!
Thanks for the ride Kev and Jaime.
Kev, you SURE know your C310's Aux Tanks.!!! Thanks for the Fuel Management Refresher..... lol
Take care you guys and thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it and found it helpful!
4:10-4:20 Is that a necropolis by the end of the runway? Or a carpark? can't see properly...
That's a junkyard with the large solid white metal fence around it
I ALWAYS (not yelling just emphasizing) enjoy your videos! Just a pleasure to watch, no annoying background music blocking the radio coms, and your videos of your flights are always very relaxing and enjoyable! Even if Jaime got a little adrenaline jolt when the aux tank ran dry.
Speaking of that, I asked a question about that in reply in another comment out of curiosity as I really couldnt tell what happened. I'm sure you'll find it. I probably should have read all the comments first in case it was already asked, if so, my apologies in advance! I'll read thru them. Its a shame you didn't get to park at oshkosh! They definately need to give a little more love to the twins! Safe flights to you always!
PS: I recently downloaded the flightaware app to my phone, just for kicks, but find most of the pilots I care to follow block it. I guess its kind of creepy thinking of people being able to know when you take off and where youre going, like giving a stalker a tracking device for your vehicle lol just makes good sense for security! I still get a kick out of checking out whats flying over our home as we get a ton of traffic into and out of PDX plus lots of GA planes.
That's awesome that you are enjoying all of our videos Don! Thank you for the feedback!!
I wish to travel with you guys
Just an idea. After almost 10,000 hours in twin Cessnas I would switch to aux tanks at 10 minute intervals so they wouldn’t both run dry at the same time. Love your flying videos. I feel like I’m with you.
Thanks for the suggestion Ed! I only have about 600 hours in them but sure do love them! I do the 5 minute split on selecting them and have tested them out several times. That seems to work well and I've never had to worry about them both running out at the same time. Maybe I'll re-think my sop.
Kevin, I did the same thing to my wife on a trip back from Texas. I never thought to tell her what I was doing. She had the same reaction and I still hear about it from time to time. One side note... She now watches the fuel gauges like a hawk... :-) Nice job as usual with the video. Fly safe and blue skies to you both...
Thanks Mac! That's funny that you put your wife through the same thing. :) I bet Jaime will be asking me regularly or watching the timer for a while when on the aux's. Twin Cessna guys like yourself understand how semi-common this is. Some others can be concerned. :) Stay safe up there...hope this Hurricane doesn't mess anything up for you!
So far we've been lucky. With the turn to the south after landfall it took it away from us. We've had a little wind and rain. Thanks for the thoughts... Most people think our fuel system is complicated because they don't understand it. Having the numbers for the aux tanks is part of our management process.
310 Pilot
Another great video. Keep them coming. The one thing on this video and the one on your way up to Oshkosh - I wish you would have said where you are when flying over towns etc...
Since I live in JVL and right under flight path to Madison and Milwaukee JVL and Chicago.
I see planes all the time.
Thank you Dave! I wish I would have mentioned the towns a bit more...I didn't think of it at the time.
No problem I just like to hear it. Especially since you were flying over WI
Another awesome job Kevin ! Thanks !
Thank you Bob! :)
Good instantaneous recovery on the tank switching. Thanks for another adventure shared!
Thanks Mike! I knew it was coming even though I zoned out a bit...my mistake was not telling my bride. :)
I can see how she could've been startled at that moment, but on the other hand, it's probably a good idea to deal with the problem immediately, and talk when possible. I bet she understands that. :)
I've got about 450 hrs in a 310 but it been a few years since I've flow. This brings back a lot of memories. Thanks.
Glad to bring back fond memories Bob! I'm guessing with that much time in twin Cessna's you've ran an aux dry at least once...I know this isn't my first time. Next time I will give her a heads up. :)
Bob Thomason - I have about that much in a Baron. Watching this made me wish some was in a 310. I always loved the stance and look of a 310 with its tip tanks.
Randy Porter - The 310 is like a "muscle car" on takeoff for sure. I've owned a Seneca and a 310. Like the 310 feel much better.
Yep it happens. Especially when your brain is somewhere else. With a little altitude it's usually not a serious issue. Can be a little nerve racking to passengers though.
Randy Porter : I'm not a pilot; just an aviation buff. The 310 has always been one of my favorite airplanes. Maybe that comes from watching Sky King on TV when I was a kid? :) The tip tanks just help make it look cool, IMHO. Kind of like a little mini Lockheed Constellation L-1049 "Super G" with tip tanks. :)
You guys are awesome...… My new favorite YT channel
Wow...thanks Rick!!!
One of my favorite channels.
Awesome...thank you!
I am with Jamie that fuel switch made me jump as well. Thanks Kevin, the forward looking camera is great.
Thanks for the comment and feedback on the camera!
Great flight and super video. Thanks so much.
Glad you liked it Donald!
Thank you again guys awesome as usual.
Thank you Thomas...glad you thought so!
The C310 looks fast even when parked. Built models of the 310 as a kid. Kevin, you clearly fly your plane like you own it. Jamie handles the radio like a pro. Impressive team in the cockpit. The C172 I fly is nice for sure, but I've always wished to fly in a 310 some day. Is that a Georgia hat ? I lived in Athens for 5 years. Go Dawgs !
Thank you for the nice comment John! I learned to fly at Athens airport in 152's while at UGA. Go Dawgs! Went to high school just south of there in Oconee County...miss the area.
"Got your ears up" is CB language and doesn't belong in aviation. The defroster air comes out of the gasoline heater which could be turn on immediately, even if the engines aren't running...unless Cessna changed the heating system since I flew one years ago.
Man, what a small world ! I lived just down the road from that airport in Green Acres, by Cedar Shoals High. Use to sit and watch airplanes takeoff and land for hours. Also lived in Peoria as a kid. Lastly, it's a pleasure to see how kind you and Jamie are with each other. My wife and I too are best friends. Safe travels !
What do you guys do for a living? J/w you have nice plane and car plus always flying and that's not cheap.
We tell pilots what to do. :) ATC
Thank u guys really enjoy 😉 you guys videos Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it Roy!
Why don't you and Jamie buy one of those Diamond 65 or 66 four-place Twins? Wow sleek!
Lived in WI for 30+ until moving to The Old Pueblo. I miss the green n water. If you think the lightning is impressive there, come to where all the photos of lighting purple clouds and heat lightning are taken.
I lived in the AZ desert for a bit and I agree about missing the green and water!
Great footage and presentation as always! I enjoyed the ride with you guys!
Thank you...glad you're enjoying it Darren!
What camera are you using for the view out the front (ceiling mounted one)? I've been drinking and I am on amazon in the GoPro aIsle.
Hope you guys are doing well. Hope to catch up w/ you at KY part 2.
Let's ride the beacon and do some formation flying!!
Hey Bryan, sorry for the late reply...was working late last night. Drinking and amazoning would have been more fun. :) The forward facing camera is the GoPro Hero5 Black. Works really well for picture/stability/etc.
Things are going well. We were hoping to see ya'll at Gaston's again this year but not sure if we'll be able to swing it or not unfortunately. I really enjoyed that last year. E sent me the dates for KY2 and I have that reserved for time off next year...if I don't see you around somewhere before then. Formation flying and riding the beacon will happen this year!
Great video those storms can be eye opening.
Glad you liked it and I agree about Storms!
Oshkosh has out grown it's self.
Is it really possible too run into
Another plane. Always enjoy
Your videos.
It's a big sky but midairs happen every now and then. It's always important to stay vigilant and use ATC or the new cockpit traffic tools to stay safe.
Maybe an improvement in organisation for next years event will be appreciated by visitors. As long as you had a great time that's what matters in the end i guess. Flight home looks quite smooth and enjoyable. Wonder if that last second wind call helped with the landing ? Thanks mate.
Hey Spiro! Hopefully they get a little better on the parking there. I'm not pretending that controlling that isn't a logistical nightmare but I think they could improve a bit. It was a blast and that is the most important thing.
Dude that scared me and I'm just watching the video. Great job team.
Thanks Darrell...glad you liked it!
Love your channel. I live in Corpus Christi about twenty minutes from Port Aransas.
Cool stuff! Been a long time since I was in a short nose 310. Love the 310. 310 Rocks! Goto watch those fuel tank selectors!
Glad you thought so Brent...I love my short nose!
I love your videos! I'm thinking of buying a 310. Is there a wing spar AD?
How do you enjoy the dual Garmin for HSI and artificial horizon? they look like they provide great info combined together.
Loving them Kyle...especially combined together!
Port A is fun to fly into. Jay does a great job!
That's what I hear...going to have to do it one day!
Seeing this video, I completely agree with your thoughts on the logistics at OSH. Wx (and how it affected the planes travelling to OSH) made getting into the airport Sunday impossible, despite still being open to singles. The number of airplanes not flying the procedure was unreal, and it lead to some extensive holding, and being cut off numerous times. If its like that again, they're gonna start needing controllers at RIPON/Green Lake. Side note, Storm Force Tie Downs are also pretty great! We survived Stormpocalypse FLD 2018 no problem. Too bad the Shuttle cost us $181. :(
I've heard the same stories as yours about the mess on Sunday...glad it wasn't bad when we went it. As we mentioned...I'm not a fan of the shuttle. I hope we can make it into OSH next year to stay!
I like how you verbalize throttles full power MAKING full power. I got into a situation not long ago heavy plane just a 172 but heavy hot high 9000' DA field. Every number was carefully calculated under max weight within W&B etc after 3 aborted takeoffs last one much scarier than I like to admit rented a car did what we had to went back the next day pretty similar conditions only just me in the plane this time and I didnt realize it then but watching your videos now even with the mixture leaned for max power and full throttle i was only reaching the bottom end of the green power arc. That's a good call out and check to make that I think often gets overlooked but is a big one, everyone just rattles off gauges green and off they go BUT just because the throttle is fire walled doesnt always mean youre ACTUALLY making full power and you end up sliding to a stop on the last inch of remaining runway like we did.
Very nice VFR flight back to Aurora. Nothing like a little levity during the flight to maintain the viewers interest. Jaime is quite the character! Did Jaime ever express an interest in becoming a pilot? She seems to be quite content handling the radios and you doing the flying. Always enjoy your videos. Glad you had a good time in Oshkosh!
Thanks James! Jaime isn't interested (at least for now) in being a pilot. She loves flying and is great with the radios. :)
Just found you're channel, subed as it was relaxing watching you're flight 😊✌️
People who dont live in Wisconsin always complain about the weather but always come back. This state is badass.
Every time I visit to fish, the weather has usually been awesome. And yes, the state is badass. Love it up there.
Thay had to be a big relief getting away from Oshkosh
Nice shot of Lake Geneva @ 15:05. Impeccable handoff @ 17:35 “133.5 Deal with it” :-)
I forgot to mention Lake Geneva while flying over. Pretty nice like when it's not too crowded. It was dealt with! :) It's an inside joke with the controllers at Chicago Approach. :)
Great just great as always. Funny too
Thank you William!
She didn't seam to happy about your idea of running out of gas in the aux tank. To funny, my brother did the same thing years ago when we were on a family trip from KY to Texas and we were in the clouds, in a Cherokee 6 at 7K feet. I remember o so well.
Ha ha...way more memorable if you do that in a single engine...things get a lot quieter!
Jamie & Kevin, thanks for another great video! Thanks too for elaborating on the FUBAR at OSH parking & the less than ideal logistics of shuttling to and from FDL.
Jaime’s “can’t feel her legs moment” reminds me of a C195 running out of gas climbing to altitude at 6,500 over Clewiston, FL with me and 4 other skydivers aboard. My girlfriend was facing rearward next to the door. When things coughed and got quiet, her eyes got the size of lemons, the lexan rolled-up fast, and she (and three others) were out the door like rats off a burning ship. They landed off-field; trudged 45 minutes through summer heat and sugar cane-dodging gators and snakes-to get back. 🤣
Joshua...two things...first off, glad you enjoyed the video!
Secondly, I just laughed my butt off reading about your fun in the 195! :) Great story!!
I’ve owned a Q model over 18 years and have really enjoyed it. Use to scare passengers when I ran my aux tanks dry. I found that timing them to 38 minutes with an alarm burned the fuel down close enough and didn’t have to devote so much time to watching the gauges. Because of the way the fuel system works it didn’t make a difference what power settings I used. Your airplane seems a lot faster than mine...do you have larger engines than the IO470VO?
Thank you Charles... a fellow 310 pilot who understands our fuel system! :) I've learned from the different twin cessna's that I've flown that they all pump out of the aux's at slightly different speeds. I usually do 1 hour but wanted to test the absolute limit. Turns out mine was 1 hour and 4 minutes. I have the same 470VO's...I purposely sought out one like this as they seem to last the longest without as many worries in 310's. Mine have about 450-500 hours on them and I recently O/H'ed the props. I usually true out at about 175 kts at 24-25 gph ROP. I can do LOP and save some gas but I prefer the speed. Thanks for your comment and for watching!
Piper Navajo/chieftain have similar fuel management too.
@@310Pilot, okay I'm not a twin guy, so running tanks dry is new to me. In my Kitfox 5, if I run a tank dry, I'm looking for a place to land.
Enjoyed The Video as always... I’ve hauled many loads of military equipment out of Oshkosh 👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed it! I've seen all the equipment stacked around the airfield on the east side.
when you jumped, I thought your ipad fell off its mount. made me chuckle a bit tho...
jumped?? ...I call it sprung into action. :)
Scared me too, Jamie! Make sure he pays attention to that in the future - my heart can't take that kind of shock and I dare say neither can yours! ;-) Glad you all enjoyed your trip. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it Robert! Running the aux dry is semi-normal ops in twin cessna's...my mistake was forgetting to tell her the possibility so it wasn't unexpected. :)
310 Pilot I remember an earlier video where you mentioned how you usually time your tank management's so that you don't actually run dry so when this happened I was surprised it had snuck up on you. Also thought it funny at the same time because I knew you weren't literally out of fuel, just startled. But still, an adrenaline rush I'm sure you can do without. I really appreciate the videos you and Jamie publish. I live in KY and appreciate that you fly in my neck of the woods on occasion such as the KY Dam fly-in a while back. Please keep the great work coming. Take care of the awesome little boy of yours. He reminds me so much of my grandson when he was his age (couple of years ago). He was so well behaved in the plane and obviously loves his dad. It's great to see that between a dad and his son. Enjoy it while you can because they grow up SO fast.
Thank you for another nice comment Robert! I usually do one hour and that usually leaves about 2-3 gallons in the tanks. I had planned to test it by running them till the start to fluctuate but I zoned out for a few seconds. Now I know it's 1 hour and 4 min. :)
310 Pilot Nothing like precision, eh?
Explain why you land with power to touchdown in your 310 please. Seems like you use a lot of runway on your roll outs
Great video guys! 👍
Thanks Harold...glad you liked this one!
Anybody else wish they would've cleared the windshield off
No
Yes.
Maybe
I knew there would be at least one comment on this when I was editing it. The cameras always make the visibility look a bit worse than actuality (whether it is clouds, haze or in this case water). I could see the taxiway well enough to be safe and knew on takeoff it would clear up quickly. Sorry for giving you guys a restricted view in the beginning.
No one believes that you were not being safe. I actually enjoy watching you go down the taxi way and then taking off. That is my favorite part.
I see your calm and confident but my stomach is in knots ... I'll keep watching though
Gotta admit that Jaime's expression on her face at 15:30 as Kevin rationalizes the process for flying to empty and then switching tanks, is one that says clearly "I am not impressed!"
Ha ha...I think you are correct Robert. :)
If I may, I would like to share a very inspiring pilot's story about his leadership: www.inc.com/leigh-buchanan/sully-sullenberger-leadership-lessons.html
Why am I always in the woods working on deer stands or something when I see your posts, lol, thx for the ride along I enjoyed it as always!!
Donald...you are my kind of guy! I just reworked our deer stands this past week...ready for opening day. Happy hunting this year! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Buffy Foster maybe so but that would look pretty cool!!! Lmao, I bet ATC would get a kick out of it!
Well I can't put it in the plane...all that blood would ruin the interior :)
That was so cool 😎.
I thought those were big earrings on Jamie, it’s her earphones lol
Yeah, she loves those headsets as she's not a fan of the clamp style very much. Does look like big hoops sometimes. :)
Watched the whole video and it never occurred to me that those were anything but earrings. Had to go back and watch a bit after reading this. lol
@@310Pilot Hi Kevin What headsets Jamie Use?
i hear you say something about the damper, what is that? if I may ask
I live 30 minutes from Port A and I know Amelia's Landing Hotel well. Small world!
Small world indeed...we need to come down to your part of it soon!
Hey guys! Take a look at Google maps at your home airport and in street view it looks like your Cessna between the hangars. Is that your 310?
I tried it but didn't see it. I've looked a few times but no luck so far.
After looking more, it appears the twin on street view is at the other end of the hangar area than where you park. But I'm pretty sure it is a 310. In street view on Highway 30, look between the second and third row of hangars at the west end. You should see the fuel truck driving west on the service road.
Flying and camping 👍 awesome
is Jaime a pilot too or..?
I'm not a pilot. But I noticed that you run the left engine more lean than the right. Any particular reason for that? Older engine maybe?
John, I actually run them with the same fuel flow. Each mixture lever is set up slightly different and my old round dial fuel gauge isn't very accurate. I have digital fuel flows on my engine monitor screen (hard to see from the cameras and I run them within a tenth of a gallon of each other. Hope this helps. :)
Did you like Texas
She shoulden't feel so nervous/scared given she has the state-of-the-art ejection seat parachute system like the military fighters w/ the twin pull to deploy grips...oh....oh geeze! I guess those are "hoop" earrings...lol! just kidden.
Ha ha...actually that is the tubes going to the ear pieces on her headsets. They look like hoop earrings. :)
And this airshow has been going on for how many years? LOL
Another very cool video! Really love the slow hum of those engines! Very smooth. But, wow, the approach was pretty Squirelly!! Is that an American thing? :-) All the best from another one across The Pond!
Glad you enjoyed it Lee! It's not an American thing...it's just a me thing. One day I'll figure this flying thing out. :) Stay safe up there!
I have flown into Fond du Lac the last couple years after having flown into OSH several times. It is a lot easier. I take an Uber to OSH and it is a lot better than taking the shuttle in my opinion. It costs more, but is easier.
I agree about the Uber from FLD Carl...if we end up back there again we will be doing the same thing vs that shuttle. Thanks for the heads up!
watch many of your videos great to watch on my 4k tv
cool flying cool couple my hobby go to many airshows in summer months in england
Glad you are enjoying the videos Anthony! One day we are going to make it over to England to fly around I hope. :)
yea that be great stuff comeing over to england happy flying
How tall is Jamie....on another video someone said 5'0" and I hear you say "she's not tall enough to see out"
Does Jaime fly too? She sounds really comfortable talking to ATC.
Bruce, she's not a pilot...she is an ATC'er ...hence the mic skills. :)
Great video, and a great landing in "squirrely" conditions. :)
Thanks Justin....glad you liked it!
Exciting! Do not scare Jamie like that. Go Dawgs.
Go Dawgs!