Because of the no placement limit, I feel like Golden Minigunner is only better in solo, meanwhile Accelerator is better with more people. However, I feel Golden Minigunner is more reliable due to not having to charge up all the time and having a more consistent dps.
i was soloing the winter event and i found accelerator was much better and had a guaranteed win but when i used g mini i barely killed the boss sometimes
@@sneakydv97I kinda doubt that, mini with commander is 200 dps, and assuming you have 4 mortars, and a dj, that’s 32 minis you can place. 32x200, equals to 6400 dps. You definitely did something wrong
@YourAverageSpeedrunner you gotta count the stuns, the enemy spawns, the boss heal, the fact that you can't have 32 minis attacking at once because of placement issues. Usually, accelerator is much better for the EVENT in solo.
Overall, Golden Minigunner has always been my solid pick. Accelerators are not reliable as they never target the ''first enemy''. The Accelerator has a built in code which when it starts attacking something, it will not stop until the enemy its attacking has died meaning other enemies can sneak through due to accelerators unreliability. Golden Minigunner will always attack the first enemy and overall has a higher dps ceiling. Only downside is Golden Mini can be MUCH harder to get as its one of the 6 gold skins costing a grand total of 50,000 coins giving you a 16% chance of obtaining it. Then again, Accelerator has a much higher potential when it comes to lower placement limits. Use Golden Mini for solo and duo, Accelerator for trio and squad. Simple.
Overall, Accelerator is better cause Accelerators are reliable as they always target the ''first enemy''. The Accelerator has a built in code which when it starts attacking something, it will give more damage if the enemy is weak and gives coins. Golden Minigunner will never attack the first enemy and overall has a lower dps ceiling. Only upside for Golden Mini is it can be MUCH harder and rarer as it is first to appear, to get as its one of the 6 gold skins costing a grand total of 50,000 coins, still giving you a 1% chance of obtaining it. Then again, Accelerator has a WAY HIGHER potential when it comes to no placement limits. Do not use Golden Mini for any situation, and use Accelerator for solo, duo, trio and squad. Simple.
the accelator targettign almot made me die from glitches in fallen but i still feel accel is better due to the large amounts of damage in can do in just ll 3 wwhich could alone get u up to wave 24 in fALLEN
Introduction: Which tower is better, Golden Minigunner or Accelerator? Aim: To see which tower will do better against Fallen mode. Hypothesis: Both of these are high dps towers - Accelerator has higher dps whereas Golden Minigunner doesn’t have a placement limit. Both of these towers will be able to defeat the Fallen King. Materials: Farm, Golden Cowboy, Golden Minigunner/Accelerator, Commander and DJ. Method: Use Farm for income, Golden Cowboy for early game + income, Golden Minigunner/Accelerator for main mid - late game dps, Commander to increase dps, and DJ to increase range and decrease prices of upgrades. Results: With Golden Minigunner, Fallen King got into the base with 7738 hp, ending the game. With Accelerator, Fallen King summoned a swarm of Fallens near the end. The Fallens got into the base with nearly full hp, ending the game, and Fallen King had 63450 hp remaining. Although neither towers were able to defeat the Fallen King, Golden Minigunner got the Fallen King down to lower hp than the Accelerator. Therefore, Golden Minigunner did better. Discussion: Both towers were able to get the Fallen King down to below half hp. Early Game, Accelerator did very well, due to its great cost efficiency (for levels 2 and onwards, you’re paying less than $200 for every 1 DPS!) The Golden Minigunner wasn’t used much early game, but one level 2 Golden Minigunner was placed. It didn’t seem to do as much as the Accelerator, as, at level 2, the Golden Minigunner isn’t very cost efficient. However, later on, the Golden Minigunner was able to do more damage than the accelerator, despite being less cost efficient than the Accelerator at max level. This is because the Accelerator has a placement limit and a lock-on system. Since the Accelerator has a placement limit of 8, unlike the Golden Minigunner, this meant that the 40 placement limit in a solo game couldn’t be utilised, and Golden Cowboy had to be used late game, a tower that doesn’t have very high dps at max level. Furthermore, the Accelerator’s lock-on system meant that, while weaker enemies would get close to the base, the Accelerator would be busy dealing damage to enemies with high health. Fortunately, the Golden Cowboys were able to kill the enemies that the Accelerators weren’t targeting, but this meant that 8 Accelerators and some support could not be solely relied on as much as Golden Minigunners when playing Fallen mode on a difficult map. Conclusion: From this video, you can conclude that Golden Minigunner does better on a difficult map on Fallen mode than Accelerator. You can also conclude that Fallen King LOVES stun abusing.
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I believe a way of balancing hardcore towers like accelerator is by giving them a unique ability each at max level. This adds to the uniqueness of hardcore towers and can create new playstyles. Likewise, accel could get an overcharge ability where when activated causes the accelerator to charge a very powerful attack and store it. The player could press the charged ability (indicated by an electricity icon) and release an extremely powerful attack. This could either be a large splash attack that leaves an electrified part of the path temporarily or a beam that can do chain damage. Or it could simply be an increase to the max charge maybe temporarily doubling it to 6000 and increasing the damage to 100. These were just some simple ideas I came up with on the fly, overall I think accelerator could benefit with an aoe ability to deal with crowds better. Either way, I think that hc towers could be improved upon being given a unique ability at max level.
And as for engineer, I believe it could have some kind of sentry boost. Where the engineer tower matches its best unlocked sentry. So now it’s with the dos of 4 sentries.
I prefer Gmini since It's cheaper to place and is good in (most) game modes. You also have to take into account that Gmini costs less to upgrade meaning that it won't have as much DPS as accel, however both are still solid DPS towers especially for fallen runs solo or not.
if everyone brings it your actually placing more then the cap of 40. I'm pretty sure its 80 which mean you're practically doubling your DPS (excluding supports + farms) but yes that is a fair point because if only you bring it then the DPS won't be as much per say in solo or duo.@@Chaseleep
even though its not related to this topic, a way to have better ratio for farming is by stopping at level 3 to defend, or just wait to skip to level 5 because level 4 is not a really good use of money
I personally would pick accel over gold mini, without commander accel still has a solid preformance but let’s be real every player should have commander in their loadout, and considering one accel can solo molten and one mini can’t. But mini is cheaper, also better targeting, although 8 accels is cheaper and I did some math, 1 accel is 4 g minis with commander and 4 g minis is more expensive so 8 accels = 32 g minis and 8 accels is cheaper than 32 minis and better dps per cost ratio, because accel has a smaller placement limit you have have some supports and sub dps which makes accel more reliable but g mini needs multiple to be good (no hate for mini but I prefer accel in most situations)
g mini does sooo much better in everything bro... ofc u need a lot there no placement limit but they are cheap and dont have the worst targeting in the game and they dont have a fuel tank that runs out
32g mini is not equal to 8 accel. if you did the dps without including the charge up time and cooldown its a little over 3.57 g mini. after including charge up and cooldown its ~2.21. this means it's closer to 17-18 g mini. that almost 1/2 as much as you said. also the cost efficacy is worse on accel from level 2-5 then g mini level 2-4
The thing about comparing those towers is,getting accel is 2 times faster than g mini,and only if you have g scout to speedrun molten solo under 13 minutes(with accel) it still takes 19 hours to get one g crate from 0 coins while getting accel takes around 12 hours with losing at 22 wave
I like Accelerator more. It's heavier price and charge/cooldown are out-weighed by the crazy amounts of DPS. Sure, 40 Golden Minigunners do more DPS than 8 Accelerators, but that is if you GET 40 G. Minis- and you are gonna want support, like DJ or Commander, maybe other things. Also, one max Accelerator has around 2.5x the DPS of one max Golden Minigunner. Also, I have to say- You have to beat Hardcore Mode around 8-9 times to get Accelerator, which is around 320-360 minutes, aka around 5-6 hours. Golden Minigunner requires 50 thousand coins, and the best way to get a G. Crate is Pizza Party. You get around 1000 coins per win. A G. Crate costs 50 thousand. That means, you'd have to beat Pizza Party around 50 TIMES! THAT'S 650 MINUTES, OR 10 HOURS! AND ALSO, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE FACT YOU MIGHT GET ANOTHER GOLDEN SKIN?! THEN YOU'D HAVE TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN! And that means, to get all 6 Golden Skins, WOULD TAKE 60 HOURS! THAT IS 30 TIMES MORE THAN ACCELERATOR! So yeah I'm done rambling.
overall, g mini has slightly reliability than accel imo due to how accel has overcharge and is not very consistent in terms of dps and also it does not get many range upgrades unlike g mini but accel does have better cost effeciency
@@yoshihunter1749golden cowboy could be an option, or if you have enough hp you could tank and try getting a g mini as early as possible. But that requires you to be REALLY high level.
I think that accelerator is better in most situations especially with more players. Golden mini has no placement limit which makes it great if you have the money and tower limit to use it, but by the time you start to have higher dps with the golden minis’, accelerator will be cheaper at that point. However, accelerator requires additional towers since its targetting is very bad, so mini has an edge in that category. Both towers are good however I find accelerator more viable with more players, on harder modes, and especially for speedrunning imo. Also golden minigunner plus accelerator is also a powerful combo to use if you have the money.
Nah in trio it's still bad trust me and in duo you better get accel with engi combo or pursuit Overall g.mini Is only good in solo and pizza party other than that its gonna be good secondary dps
@@zaipollizamabdulmalek5822@ 8 max accels cost 400k, and 18 gminis are better then 8 accels, mini costs 22k to max so 22k x 18k= 396k, it's only by 4k but gmini is cheaper, so in a small map accel is better, in big maps where you can place alot of units, for example four seasons, in those maps gmini is better
Accel is situationally way better than mini. For example: if you only have accel in the krampus event. You will die to evil elves. Kramp has just too much hp, stuns too much, and the lock on feature is the downfall of accelerator. With golden minigunner you will take longer but eventually you will kill krampus. So, if you want to shred a boss. Use a combination of gmini and accel. They are both extremley op but you CANNOT say that one is better than the other. Its the same like saying that engi is trash and accel is way better. Its not. Sometimes engi IS better than accel. But sometimes accel is better than engi. You cannot say that one tower is supreme and is way better than any other tower in the entire game. Even admin tower need some legit towers to be strong. Comparing only the dps and ignoring the lockon feature, overload, stun immunity, range, price etc. Is completley inappropriate. You would need hundreds upon hundreds of games with each tower to have a small idea of what is generally better. Both accel and mini are good. Hell even normal mini CAN be better than golden mini.
there are so little areas where engi is better than accel that you might as well not have included that. cost efficiency is probably what everyone uses along with dps to determine the strength of the tower.
Both are needed. Gmini for duo solo accel for trio quads. In elites video you wolud use Gmini considring in solo you have a placement limit of 40 and in duo 30. However trio and quads you wont have enough space for 30 or 40 Gminis. So you use accel so you can have space for airsupp,commander/dj,early def (even tho you wont need it in later waves)farm,etc. So get both.
You only need cowboy for early game if you have max farms just sell all cowboys and spam max accels 8 max farms are enough to max out your defence before wave 40
For real he’s so annoying wit spamming cowboys I’m tryna see what accel and mini can do but I can’t rlly see because his dumbass is paring it up wijt cowboy
For real he’s so annoying wit spamming cowboys I’m tryna see what accel and mini can do but I can’t rlly see because his dumbass is paring it up wijt cowboy
An Accel does more DPS than a Golden Mini but due to its need to charge up and cool down, it is less consistent(also the varying DPS) but The Accel's Targetting System is kinda stupid, It will lock onto an enemy and will not stop attacking it(or switch targets) unless it either gets out of its range or dies. The Golden Mini on the other hand is much more spammable, consistent and more reliable and cheaper i think.
@@royalwizit was accelerator’s main mechanic besides the charge up and cooldown before the rework where it switched from time overcharge to damage overcharge
@@royalwiz it was from the original coding for the tower, it was supposed to be more like phaser from tb, where the damage would increase overtime, but it was changed to a charge up burst tower. the rework removed that feature since the tower code was changed.
i would defo say golden minigunner is better, heres why: golden minigunner is heavily affected by commanders buff unlike accelerator and its quite cheap for its high dps. Golden minigunner is also a lot more reliable because of no recharge and the constant damage is just a lot better. It has no placement limit so the dps adds up to more than accelerator in the end, and even when trio'ing its good because it can be used as extra dps and golden minigunner doesnt have accelerators stupid targeting.
Just to say in solo with all 3 commanders and DJ u can only place 36 g minis all maxed which does a total of like 7.2k dps while accel can only do around half that which is 3.6k dps is why mini preformed a lot better and also mini doesn't need to charge and doesn't have a damage cap but as we get into duo mini is still better but in trio its quite fair quad though accel beats mini not by much though so golden mini is a lot better accel also has its annoying targeting that everyone knows about. So in my opinion g mini is way better than accelerator due to price, placement limit, reliability and dps.
A max commander only give 10% extra firerate buff (compared to a lvl2) for around 11600 extra cash (with DJ) so maybe he thought a max commander wasnt necessary
It’s simple: Lvl 3-4 Commander simply increases the “Passive Firerate” of towers and not from “Call to Arms” ability. So unless you need the extra range (or damage, if you think 5 extra dps is going to do anything) then there’s simply no reason to buy more than one.
I think (I just think) that you could win with the minis if you maxed the commanders, they were able to make the minigunners shoot faster and kill the fallen king if it had like how little it had, like 8.000 HP, also the commanders had more range so… Anyways you get the point.😅
I think Accel is good with towers like Pursuit or Engineer who can change targeting while also having high dps. I use Engi with Accel (plus supports and farms) to solo hardcore and i do really well. Golden Mini can change targeting but when it does, a lot of focus damage gets off of the original target. Golden Mini is hard to micro effectively while Accel can micro easily and effectively. I think Accel wins overall.
no, you are forgetting about the charge up, not to mention the price to place pursuit and engineer and to upgrade them. along with that pursuits targeting locks on just like accel and accel lets enemies get past. engineer sucks until the last upgrade. also, the sentries dont have hidden detection.
Accelerator is better for trio or quads and golden mini is better or solo or duo. If you can pair them up, you get like the most dps possible with the golden mini negating the accelerator's placement limit of 8 and semi unreliable targeting and the accel doing the dps
I always find it to be situational, When i tried both on fallen with the map fungi island (solo btw), Accel wasnt able to kill the fallen king until he got to the back of the map, meanwhile with g mini, they killed him before he could leave their range, I also find when attempting solo pw2, G mini gives better results than accel. But, in a group, because the placement is limited, I almost always bring accel, since now there would be more accels, it works better
Overall, Accelerator is better cause Accelerators are reliable as they always target the ''first enemy''. The Accelerator has a built in code which when it starts attacking something, it will give more damage if the enemy is weak and gives coins. Golden Minigunner will never attack the first enemy and overall has a lower dps ceiling. Only upside for Golden Mini is it can be MUCH harder and rarer as it is first to appear, to get as its one of the 6 gold skins costing a grand total of 50,000 coins, still giving you a 1% chance of obtaining it. Then again, Accelerator has a WAY HIGHER potential when it comes to no placement limits. Do not use Golden Mini for any situation, and use Accelerator for solo, duo, trio and squad. Simple.
Overall, I think Golden Mini is better due to its reliability and consistent DPS, with its only con being that it’s isn’t as good in quads and is only good in solo matches as it doesn’t have a placement limit and you can only place 20 towers in a quad match, making the only towers only Golden Mini’s restricts any other towers like commander or DJ. Accelerator is better in quads but has inconsistent DPS due to it having to rev up its gun for 5 whole years.
The Ultimate 1v1, Gold Mini VS Accelerator (Also accelerator sucked after they added the damage cap in a single burst instead of the just 8 second timer burst)
@@ThatOneTechy I understand what you are saying, however, the accelerator got its damage buff in Christmas 2022 when the accelerator got the rework in April 2023.
Golden Mini Is Good, But Not Great In Quad. Accel Is Good, But Not Great In Solo, Since You Can Only Place About 8 And Having A Tower That You Can Spam (Like The Golden Mini) Is Great For Solo Since You Can Spam It And Get More Dps Out Of It. But Overall? Just Use Accel. Just Use Other Towers With Accel Because I Don't Think You Would Wanna Spam 40 g minis lol.
due to the game naturally being multiplayer-based, accelerator comes out as the better tower like 90% of the time, because the one big thing gmini has over accel is not having a placement limit, which hardly makes a difference EXCEPT in solo
Golden mini gunner may be better for early and mid game while Accelerator easily wins late game. Golden mini gunner also has no placement limit which means you can just place extra after you are done with Accelerator
Sadly gold mini have a placement limit now, but it is pretty high (15) witch even without commander has more dps then accelerator with commander Edit: the dps of one minigunner is now 240 (24 every .1 second so correct me if I’m wrong) witch with all 15 is 3,600 dps without commander.
In a robux scale 1 robux = 10 coin 1 robux = 1 gem So Accel cost is actually 25000 coin And G mini cost is 50000 coin So G mini is 200% more expensive, but to be sure we need to look at grinding time 2500 gem is like 8-12 hours by not thriumph and 4-7 hours thriump grinding with no life 50000 coins is like 13-16 grinding with no life..BUT NO GUARANTEE CHANCE OF GETTING GMINI what if guarantee chance?🤔 Daily skin= 75000 is 15-20 and you have to wait💀 So I will say that both is good on their ways
To be honest it depends on the person and layout, if used g scout or something better probaly accel would kill, it depends more on the player than the tower itself
Real Also how and why i unintentionally got 2 golden crate on my alt and i got two best early game tower which is golden pyro and golden scout lol Also i think they capped the minigunner firerate because golden minigunner with commander ability would give the minigunner like 400+dps
Overall, Accelerator is better cause Accelerators are reliable as they always target the ''first enemy''. The Accelerator has a built in code which when it starts attacking something, it will give more damage if the enemy is weak and gives coins. Golden Minigunner will never attack the first enemy and overall has a lower dps ceiling. Only upside for Golden Mini is it can be MUCH harder and rarer as it is first to appear, to get as its one of the 6 gold skins costing a grand total of 50,000 coins, still giving you a 1% chance of obtaining it. Then again, Accelerator has a WAY HIGHER potential when it comes to no placement limits. Do not use Golden Mini for any situation, and use Accelerator for solo, duo, trio and squad. Simple.
Bro you literally saying the opposite of them accel never targets the first enemy your just so dumb gmini actually attacks the first enemy and accel has a enemy. Lock and will remain shooting the same enemy and you literally are overrating accel by saying the opposite of whats right
Max accel with commander ability does 850 dmg every second don’t yell at me if I’m wrong because I do not know if I did the math correctly that is not including charge time and over charge
For anyone who doesn’t want to watch the whole video, basically gold minigunner won. The reason gold mini won is because it has no placement limit, no charge up, and has better targeting than accel. Accel lost because it has a placement limit, charge up, and bad targeting. Accel is good for events / modes like Badlands, polluted, etc. Gold minigunner is good for coin grinding or just solo queing.
Elite said at the start, the golden mini cost 58000$, but that’s a lie, due to the other golden skins. I‘ve spent 200000$ and still no golden mini, so you have to be really lucky to get it at start, think at least of 100000$.
once, in a polluted wastelands game we had all accels in late game but no other towers like engineer, we had supports and stuff but accels STUPID TARGETTING MADE US LOSE WHEN NUCLEAR M\ONSTER HAD 2K HEALTH he summoned a shadow boss
A simple Sum of my opinion, Accel: Great for playing with others for special rounds, and normal modes. Gold Mini: A great alternative for others who cant get accel, due to the great dps and the no placement limit!
uhh im not sure about that math, BUT, golden mini has around the same cost efficency as accel (as in 2.1 or something gold minis have the same damage and cost as 1 accel) and you can get 24+ G minis in 1 game of solo molten/fallen(or norm-) and even more cuz you don't need 16 supports sooo, yeah G mini is better than accel IN solo/duo.
Guys I have proof G mini is better in solo and duo now when I play solo fallen with accel I always die to the tanks due to the height cost of the accelerators but when I play with g mini I usually make it to wave 40 but for trio and squads u can just farm for accel which will work out better so use g mini for solo and duo and accel for trio and squad
I prefer accelerator, i mostly play quads and duos, in duo polluted i can just put 8 accels, 6 rangers/8 jesters, 3 commanders 1 dj and then spam golden cowboy, duo pizza party? i can just put 8 max accels and invest all into gladiators/mortars, once you have enough accelerators his dps will not look inconsistent, my golden minigunner experience outside solos was very underwhelming due to the amount of space golden mini takes, accel is way more compact.
tbh, that wasn't really a fair comparison because you didn't directly compare them in terms of dps, range, placement, solo capabilities, multiplayer capabilities and pretty much just played 1 game with mini and 1 game with accel and gave a pretty vague conclusion and also you chose an old map which doesn't show how they perform on 90% of maps in the game. No hate but i feel like I didn't get any relevant info on which one is actually better in different situations
Cost Efficiency becomes less important the more "Late game" the tower is, Yes level 5 accel isnt as Cost Effecient as Multipul Level 3's but multipul levels 3's arnt killing the amalgamation are they?
the only reason on why g mini died to fallen king was because he decided to place his defense all the way at the back so the fallen king was able to take its time walking to the end along with the guards
Overall, Accelerator is better cause Accelerators are reliable as they always target the ''first enemy''. The Accelerator has a built in code which when it starts attacking something, it will give more damage if the enemy is weak and gives coins. Golden Minigunner will never attack the first enemy and overall has a lower dps ceiling. Only upside for Golden Mini is it can be MUCH harder and rarer as it is first to appear, to get as its one of the 6 gold skins costing a grand total of 50,000 coins, still giving you a 1% chance of obtaining it. Then again, Accelerator has a WAY HIGHER potential when it comes to no placement limits. Do not use Golden Mini for any situation, and use Accelerator for solo, duo, trio and squad. Simple.
He placed both towers in shitty places/shitty placements and thats why he died to the fallen king, i wouldve placed them more to the back so the other things like fallens or Fallen guardians wouldnt even be a problem and he also picked some if the worst towers for backup, he didnt even max all cowboys and instead left the Accells and Golden mini's in their place without selling and replacing them thinkong they could just solo the fallen king
People always assume that Gmini is better for solo but I think accel is better i all modes/situations. You can place down 40 gminis which is only useful in PW2 and Badlands (And hardcore). 40 gminis in solo molten/fallen is nearly impossible.
Accel and gmini is equally good, accel has a crazy huge dps which is 500 (idk how its 230+ but since 0.1 atk speed and 50 dmg, ill say it has 500 dps) but it has a placement limit which is 8, and an overcharging thing. Gmini, has smaller dps than accel but no placement limit and has no overcharging or overheating thing Idk anymore
Something, you should retry again with accel and golden mini. They will both win, you just got bad rng. Accel is still better, you just got a worse rng with accel than with g mini, he would’ve shredded
They really need to buff golden towers... There's literally no point in grinding for golden crate if accelerator is only 20 dollars while golden crates are 50 dollars and even then you're not always gonna get golden minigunner.
Honestly accelerator is better for my opinion because in terms of faster kill time accelerator takes it and in terms of reliability accelerator also takes it if you know how to use it with commander, most people use the reason they leak because of accelerator and thats because you use it irresponsibly the best way to abuse accels kill time is to spam lvl 3 accels and use coa and boom leaks are fixed and also accelerator is way easier to grind as it takes only a few hours or days to get it since grinding gems isnt that hard, Golden minigunner on the other hand takes a few days and u only have a 16% percent chance of getting it although g mini is wayy easier to use even with no coa its useful asf and is cheaper than accelerator is however its availability is what sets it apart from accelerator and accelerator is used in most strats as it is the HIGHEST DPS tower in the entire game other from the engineer of course, now for which is better in my opinion is really accelerator its got dps, cost to damage ratio with lvl 3 being op and its availability and reliability feel free to argue with me in the replies if u want.
Because of the no placement limit, I feel like Golden Minigunner is only better in solo, meanwhile Accelerator is better with more people. However, I feel Golden Minigunner is more reliable due to not having to charge up all the time and having a more consistent dps.
i was soloing the winter event and i found accelerator was much better and had a guaranteed win but when i used g mini i barely killed the boss sometimes
@@sneakydv97I kinda doubt that, mini with commander is 200 dps, and assuming you have 4 mortars, and a dj, that’s 32 minis you can place. 32x200, equals to 6400 dps. You definitely did something wrong
@@sneakydv97 you probably did something wrong
@YourAverageSpeedrunner you gotta count the stuns, the enemy spawns, the boss heal, the fact that you can't have 32 minis attacking at once because of placement issues. Usually, accelerator is much better for the EVENT in solo.
yall gotta lock in bro
Overall, Golden Minigunner has always been my solid pick. Accelerators are not reliable as they never target the ''first enemy''. The Accelerator has a built in code which when it starts attacking something, it will not stop until the enemy its attacking has died meaning other enemies can sneak through due to accelerators unreliability. Golden Minigunner will always attack the first enemy and overall has a higher dps ceiling. Only downside is Golden Mini can be MUCH harder to get as its one of the 6 gold skins costing a grand total of 50,000 coins giving you a 16% chance of obtaining it. Then again, Accelerator has a much higher potential when it comes to lower placement limits. Use Golden Mini for solo and duo, Accelerator for trio and squad. Simple.
how long did you take to type this
Overall, Accelerator is better cause Accelerators are reliable as they always target the ''first enemy''. The Accelerator has a built in code which when it starts attacking something, it will give more damage if the enemy is weak and gives coins. Golden Minigunner will never attack the first enemy and overall has a lower dps ceiling. Only upside for Golden Mini is it can be MUCH harder and rarer as it is first to appear, to get as its one of the 6 gold skins costing a grand total of 50,000 coins, still giving you a 1% chance of obtaining it. Then again, Accelerator has a WAY HIGHER potential when it comes to no placement limits. Do not use Golden Mini for any situation, and use Accelerator for solo, duo, trio and squad. Simple.
the accelator targettign almot made me die from glitches in fallen but i still feel accel is better due to the large amounts of damage in can do in just ll 3 wwhich could alone get u up to wave 24 in fALLEN
You copied the main comment but reversed it bruh @@Scott-bn2vn
@@Scott-bn2vn half of the information you just said is incorrect and you also just copied the comment but reversed it
Introduction:
Which tower is better, Golden Minigunner or Accelerator?
Aim:
To see which tower will do better against Fallen mode.
Hypothesis:
Both of these are high dps towers - Accelerator has higher dps whereas Golden Minigunner doesn’t have a placement limit. Both of these towers will be able to defeat the Fallen King.
Materials:
Farm, Golden Cowboy, Golden Minigunner/Accelerator, Commander and DJ.
Method:
Use Farm for income, Golden Cowboy for early game + income, Golden Minigunner/Accelerator for main mid - late game dps, Commander to increase dps, and DJ to increase range and decrease prices of upgrades.
Results:
With Golden Minigunner, Fallen King got into the base with 7738 hp, ending the game.
With Accelerator, Fallen King summoned a swarm of Fallens near the end. The Fallens got into the base with nearly full hp, ending the game, and Fallen King had 63450 hp remaining.
Although neither towers were able to defeat the Fallen King, Golden Minigunner got the Fallen King down to lower hp than the Accelerator.
Therefore, Golden Minigunner did better.
Discussion:
Both towers were able to get the Fallen King down to below half hp.
Early Game, Accelerator did very well, due to its great cost efficiency (for levels 2 and onwards, you’re paying less than $200 for every 1 DPS!)
The Golden Minigunner wasn’t used much early game, but one level 2 Golden Minigunner was placed. It didn’t seem to do as much as the Accelerator, as, at level 2, the Golden Minigunner isn’t very cost efficient.
However, later on, the Golden Minigunner was able to do more damage than the accelerator, despite being less cost efficient than the Accelerator at max level. This is because the Accelerator has a placement limit and a lock-on system.
Since the Accelerator has a placement limit of 8, unlike the Golden Minigunner, this meant that the 40 placement limit in a solo game couldn’t be utilised, and Golden Cowboy had to be used late game, a tower that doesn’t have very high dps at max level.
Furthermore, the Accelerator’s lock-on system meant that, while weaker enemies would get close to the base, the Accelerator would be busy dealing damage to enemies with high health. Fortunately, the Golden Cowboys were able to kill the enemies that the Accelerators weren’t targeting, but this meant that 8 Accelerators and some support could not be solely relied on as much as Golden Minigunners when playing Fallen mode on a difficult map.
Conclusion:
From this video, you can conclude that Golden Minigunner does better on a difficult map on Fallen mode than Accelerator.
You can also conclude that Fallen King LOVES stun abusing.
Great Job and Anaylsis
bro accel and gm both can kill fallen king on that map its just elite being absolute garbage at the game LOL
@@Okayguysyususu XD
The fallen king did a stun and summon combo for accel’s run…
@@Okayguysyususu you dont have to be that mean bro. lets see you do it youself
I get one person doesn’t mean that much, but man! Your commentary is GOLDEN, your video ideas are great, and your upload schedule pretty decent, just know, your videos are great and you deserve every single subscriber you have!
Honestly this is so true. I'm happy that he got his own TDS skin.
Heh literally
So true👍
I he deserves more the other yt i likes all have moree subs he is honestly better then them
I believe a way of balancing hardcore towers like accelerator is by giving them a unique ability each at max level. This adds to the uniqueness of hardcore towers and can create new playstyles. Likewise, accel could get an overcharge ability where when activated causes the accelerator to charge a very powerful attack and store it. The player could press the charged ability (indicated by an electricity icon) and release an extremely powerful attack. This could either be a large splash attack that leaves an electrified part of the path temporarily or a beam that can do chain damage. Or it could simply be an increase to the max charge maybe temporarily doubling it to 6000 and increasing the damage to 100. These were just some simple ideas I came up with on the fly, overall I think accelerator could benefit with an aoe ability to deal with crowds better. Either way, I think that hc towers could be improved upon being given a unique ability at max level.
And as for engineer, I believe it could have some kind of sentry boost. Where the engineer tower matches its best unlocked sentry. So now it’s with the dos of 4 sentries.
or the engineer could build a giant turret that deals 50 damage and 250 damage missiles (7 burst per 30 second)@@SSG-Edits
I aint reading allat
Hes wanting the dev to add special abilities to hardcore tower at last lv@@TooMuch2Work
That would make Accelerator way to over powered and give every other Dps tower no purpose at all once you get your hands on it.
I prefer Gmini since It's cheaper to place and is good in (most) game modes. You also have to take into account that Gmini costs less to upgrade meaning that it won't have as much DPS as accel, however both are still solid DPS towers especially for fallen runs solo or not.
Yea, if ur farming in pizza party scout is no problem because of g mini, sense its cheaper
what if ur in a trio or quad u wont be able to put like any
if everyone brings it your actually placing more then the cap of 40. I'm pretty sure its 80 which mean you're practically doubling your DPS (excluding supports + farms) but yes that is a fair point because if only you bring it then the DPS won't be as much per say in solo or duo.@@Chaseleep
You actually only need 18 gminis to outperform 8 accelerators, meaning gmini is still better in quad @@Chaseleep
@@basskit_ that's 72 golden minigunners and you won't have enough space so accel is better in quad
This is something I have been thinking about for a long time
even though its not related to this topic, a way to have better ratio for farming is by stopping at level 3 to defend, or just wait to skip to level 5 because level 4 is not a really good use of money
Accelerator: Finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary!
it really wont
@@encrypted2558yeah we kinda know accelerator has abit more range and alot more dps
@@habibixx3251turned out golden mini did better due to targeting, faster charge up time, and mainly placement.
And placement limit.
The battle will truly be legendary
I personally would pick accel over gold mini, without commander accel still has a solid preformance but let’s be real every player should have commander in their loadout, and considering one accel can solo molten and one mini can’t. But mini is cheaper, also better targeting, although 8 accels is cheaper and I did some math, 1 accel is 4 g minis with commander and 4 g minis is more expensive so 8 accels = 32 g minis and 8 accels is cheaper than 32 minis and better dps per cost ratio, because accel has a smaller placement limit you have have some supports and sub dps which makes accel more reliable but g mini needs multiple to be good (no hate for mini but I prefer accel in most situations)
thx for doing da math
g mini does sooo much better in everything bro... ofc u need a lot there no placement limit but they are cheap and dont have the worst targeting in the game and they dont have a fuel tank that runs out
32g mini is not equal to 8 accel. if you did the dps without including the charge up time and cooldown its a little over 3.57 g mini. after including charge up and cooldown its ~2.21. this means it's closer to 17-18 g mini. that almost 1/2 as much as you said. also the cost efficacy is worse on accel from level 2-5 then g mini level 2-4
@@kyledaniell879get help
The thing about comparing those towers is,getting accel is 2 times faster than g mini,and only if you have g scout to speedrun molten solo under 13 minutes(with accel) it still takes 19 hours to get one g crate from 0 coins while getting accel takes around 12 hours with losing at 22 wave
I like Accelerator more. It's heavier price and charge/cooldown are out-weighed by the crazy amounts of DPS. Sure, 40 Golden Minigunners do more DPS than 8 Accelerators, but that is if you GET 40 G. Minis- and you are gonna want support, like DJ or Commander, maybe other things. Also, one max Accelerator has around 2.5x the DPS of one max Golden Minigunner. Also, I have to say- You have to beat Hardcore Mode around 8-9 times to get Accelerator, which is around 320-360 minutes, aka around 5-6 hours. Golden Minigunner requires 50 thousand coins, and the best way to get a G. Crate is Pizza Party. You get around 1000 coins per win. A G. Crate costs 50 thousand. That means, you'd have to beat Pizza Party around 50 TIMES! THAT'S 650 MINUTES, OR 10 HOURS! AND ALSO, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE FACT YOU MIGHT GET ANOTHER GOLDEN SKIN?! THEN YOU'D HAVE TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN! And that means, to get all 6 Golden Skins, WOULD TAKE 60 HOURS! THAT IS 30 TIMES MORE THAN ACCELERATOR! So yeah I'm done rambling.
20 gold minigunners do more DPS than 8 accelerators
just p2w
I ain’t reading allat 💀
Then dont comment easy@@therealwynnz
You mostly won't have 20 minis unless you are in solo@@basskit_
overall, g mini has slightly reliability than accel imo due to how accel has overcharge and is not very consistent in terms of dps and also it does not get many range upgrades unlike g mini but accel does have better cost effeciency
I mainly like to use both, since golden minigunner. takes over for a while accelerator is recharging.
@@TheGreenMonkey-ly9oyonly issue with using both is you only really get 1 support due to needing farm and a early
accel has more range..?
@@yoshihunter1749golden cowboy could be an option, or if you have enough hp you could tank and try getting a g mini as early as possible. But that requires you to be REALLY high level.
I think that accelerator is better in most situations especially with more players. Golden mini has no placement limit which makes it great if you have the money and tower limit to use it, but by the time you start to have higher dps with the golden minis’, accelerator will be cheaper at that point. However, accelerator requires additional towers since its targetting is very bad, so mini has an edge in that category. Both towers are good however I find accelerator more viable with more players, on harder modes, and especially for speedrunning imo. Also golden minigunner plus accelerator is also a powerful combo to use if you have the money.
mini is way better in like every scenario except quad
Nah in trio it's still bad trust me and in duo you better get accel with engi combo or pursuit
Overall g.mini Is only good in solo and pizza party other than that its gonna be good secondary dps
@BrutalCarCrashes009 i would still recommended accel more then mini since is still a lot cheaper to set up 8 max accel for each player.
@@zaipollizamabdulmalek5822@ 8 max accels cost 400k, and 18 gminis are better then 8 accels, mini costs 22k to max so 22k x 18k= 396k, it's only by 4k but gmini is cheaper, so in a small map accel is better, in big maps where you can place alot of units, for example four seasons, in those maps gmini is better
just a fun thing, you should do a "USE CODE E" thing whenever you click commander since its ability also says E
Accel is situationally way better than mini. For example: if you only have accel in the krampus event. You will die to evil elves. Kramp has just too much hp, stuns too much, and the lock on feature is the downfall of accelerator. With golden minigunner you will take longer but eventually you will kill krampus. So, if you want to shred a boss. Use a combination of gmini and accel. They are both extremley op but you CANNOT say that one is better than the other. Its the same like saying that engi is trash and accel is way better. Its not. Sometimes engi IS better than accel. But sometimes accel is better than engi. You cannot say that one tower is supreme and is way better than any other tower in the entire game. Even admin tower need some legit towers to be strong. Comparing only the dps and ignoring the lockon feature, overload, stun immunity, range, price etc. Is completley inappropriate. You would need hundreds upon hundreds of games with each tower to have a small idea of what is generally better. Both accel and mini are good. Hell even normal mini CAN be better than golden mini.
there are so little areas where engi is better than accel that you might as well not have included that. cost efficiency is probably what everyone uses along with dps to determine the strength of the tower.
Yo, love to see the channel again
Both are needed. Gmini for duo solo accel for trio quads. In elites video you wolud use Gmini considring in solo you have a placement limit of 40 and in duo 30. However trio and quads you wont have enough space for 30 or 40 Gminis. So you use accel so you can have space for airsupp,commander/dj,early def (even tho you wont need it in later waves)farm,etc. So get both.
You only need cowboy for early game if you have max farms just sell all cowboys and spam max accels 8 max farms are enough to max out your defence before wave 40
For real he’s so annoying wit spamming cowboys I’m tryna see what accel and mini can do but I can’t rlly see because his dumbass is paring it up wijt cowboy
For real he’s so annoying wit spamming cowboys I’m tryna see what accel and mini can do but I can’t rlly see because his dumbass is paring it up wijt cowboy
G mini either cost
55k if you gkt the tower itself pre rework and 58k if you got it post rework
Golden crook boss:
Golden soldier:
Golden scout:
An Accel does more DPS than a Golden Mini but due to its need to charge up and cool down, it is less consistent(also the varying DPS) but The Accel's Targetting System is kinda stupid, It will lock onto an enemy and will not stop attacking it(or switch targets) unless it either gets out of its range or dies. The Golden Mini on the other hand is much more spammable, consistent and more reliable and cheaper i think.
Its damage no longer fluctuates, its constant.
@@samuelrebelo9301 Oh I did not know that, Was that 'Feature' Intended or was it a Bug?
@@royalwizit was accelerator’s main mechanic besides the charge up and cooldown before the rework where it switched from time overcharge to damage overcharge
@@royalwiz it was from the original coding for the tower, it was supposed to be more like phaser from tb, where the damage would increase overtime, but it was changed to a charge up burst tower. the rework removed that feature since the tower code was changed.
When bro said 400 dps for g mini i was about to pay $200 dollars worth of coins lol
i would defo say golden minigunner is better, heres why: golden minigunner is heavily affected by commanders buff unlike accelerator and its quite cheap for its high dps. Golden minigunner is also a lot more reliable because of no recharge and the constant damage is just a lot better. It has no placement limit so the dps adds up to more than accelerator in the end, and even when trio'ing its good because it can be used as extra dps and golden minigunner doesnt have accelerators stupid targeting.
Just to say in solo with all 3 commanders and DJ u can only place 36 g minis all maxed which does a total of like 7.2k dps while accel can only do around half that which is 3.6k dps is why mini preformed a lot better and also mini doesn't need to charge and doesn't have a damage cap but as we get into duo mini is still better but in trio its quite fair quad though accel beats mini not by much though so golden mini is a lot better accel also has its annoying targeting that everyone knows about. So in my opinion g mini is way better than accelerator due to price, placement limit, reliability and dps.
6.5k around for accel
Accel is better for cost efficiency
in solo that is
W youtuber ong
can you test hardcore whIch unit is better?
Out of curiosity, when you have max placement limit with the minis and lots of money to spare, why didn’t you upgrade the commanders?
A max commander only give 10% extra firerate buff (compared to a lvl2) for around 11600 extra cash (with DJ) so maybe he thought a max commander wasnt necessary
@@Misosoup456 thx, I kinda knew but it’s just he might as well do it if he has lots of money to spare. K fact he might have won if he did no idk
It’s simple:
Lvl 3-4 Commander simply increases the “Passive Firerate” of towers and not from “Call to Arms” ability.
So unless you need the extra range (or damage, if you think 5 extra dps is going to do anything) then there’s simply no reason to buy more than one.
@@WHITE-ws5wk Alr ty
My golden minigunner doesnt show the golden stuff around it
I think (I just think) that you could win with the minis if you maxed the commanders, they were able to make the minigunners shoot faster and kill the fallen king if it had like how little it had, like 8.000 HP, also the commanders had more range so… Anyways you get the point.😅
No just play on a easier map
I don't know if it's a solo thing or not or can we appreciate that he placed 4 commanders at 13:39
Gmini not only rely on 0 placememt limit, but he also can get fully buffed by merc base and commander
I think Accel is good with towers like Pursuit or Engineer who can change targeting while also having high dps. I use Engi with Accel (plus supports and farms) to solo hardcore and i do really well. Golden Mini can change targeting but when it does, a lot of focus damage gets off of the original target. Golden Mini is hard to micro effectively while Accel can micro easily and effectively. I think Accel wins overall.
no, you are forgetting about the charge up, not to mention the price to place pursuit and engineer and to upgrade them. along with that pursuits targeting locks on just like accel and accel lets enemies get past. engineer sucks until the last upgrade. also, the sentries dont have hidden detection.
Accelerator is better for trio or quads and golden mini is better or solo or duo. If you can pair them up, you get like the most dps possible with the golden mini negating the accelerator's placement limit of 8 and semi unreliable targeting and the accel doing the dps
Rank all towers in the pls?:)
I always find it to be situational, When i tried both on fallen with the map fungi island (solo btw), Accel wasnt able to kill the fallen king until he got to the back of the map, meanwhile with g mini, they killed him before he could leave their range, I also find when attempting solo pw2, G mini gives better results than accel. But, in a group, because the placement is limited, I almost always bring accel, since now there would be more accels, it works better
Overall, Accelerator is better cause Accelerators are reliable as they always target the ''first enemy''. The Accelerator has a built in code which when it starts attacking something, it will give more damage if the enemy is weak and gives coins. Golden Minigunner will never attack the first enemy and overall has a lower dps ceiling. Only upside for Golden Mini is it can be MUCH harder and rarer as it is first to appear, to get as its one of the 6 gold skins costing a grand total of 50,000 coins, still giving you a 1% chance of obtaining it. Then again, Accelerator has a WAY HIGHER potential when it comes to no placement limits. Do not use Golden Mini for any situation, and use Accelerator for solo, duo, trio and squad. Simple.
@@Scott-bn2vnbro stop spamming this shit 💀
as of the time im watching g mini got a massive buff! W vid btw. keep it up elite!
Can I get a event strat with both towers
Overall, I think Golden Mini is better due to its reliability and consistent DPS, with its only con being that it’s isn’t as good in quads and is only good in solo matches as it doesn’t have a placement limit and you can only place 20 towers in a quad match, making the only towers only Golden Mini’s restricts any other towers like commander or DJ. Accelerator is better in quads but has inconsistent DPS due to it having to rev up its gun for 5 whole years.
It took my dad 5 years to leave! 😊
@@SSG-Edits :D
The Ultimate 1v1, Gold Mini VS Accelerator (Also accelerator sucked after they added the damage cap in a single burst instead of the just 8 second timer burst)
It Gained DPS that Update. Alot of DPS, and it no longers wastes damage (or has random damage)
@@ThatOneTechy I understand what you are saying, however, the accelerator got its damage buff in Christmas 2022 when the accelerator got the rework in April 2023.
Accelerator🤝Golden Minigunner🤝Jester🤝Gladiator
paintballer solos all
Cool video. Can you make an engi vs accel vid too?
Golden Mini Is Good, But Not Great In Quad. Accel Is Good, But Not Great In Solo, Since You Can Only Place About 8 And Having A Tower That You Can Spam (Like The Golden Mini) Is Great For Solo Since You Can Spam It And Get More Dps Out Of It.
But Overall? Just Use Accel. Just Use Other Towers With Accel Because I Don't Think You Would Wanna Spam 40 g minis lol.
Golden minis also dont just lock onto one enemy till its dead which is very usefull incase of any leaks
I think get G mini is harder because the G case costs 50k coins and you cant get mini with 100% chance from it
Old accel use to be able to solo but now well yea
Where did u get the cowboy skin?
Deluxe crate
@@Zentayishere Ok, thanks you
@@antoniohardwarespain7599 np
Bro why do you sound just like the youtuber MyUsernameThis
due to the game naturally being multiplayer-based, accelerator comes out as the better tower like 90% of the time, because the one big thing gmini has over accel is not having a placement limit, which hardly makes a difference EXCEPT in solo
Epik vid
old mini was my fav
Elite can u do some bedwars?
"Minimum price of 58k" me who spent over 200k in golden crates and still doesn't have it:
Gold mini lost to the fallen king because most of the g minis were attacking the giant boss for some reason and they got mass stunned
Golden accelerator : "not existed"
Golden mini gunner may be better for early and mid game while Accelerator easily wins late game. Golden mini gunner also has no placement limit which means you can just place extra after you are done with Accelerator
Sadly gold mini have a placement limit now, but it is pretty high (15) witch even without commander has more dps then accelerator with commander
Edit: the dps of one minigunner is now 240 (24 every .1 second so correct me if I’m wrong) witch with all 15 is 3,600 dps without commander.
In a robux scale 1 robux = 10 coin
1 robux = 1 gem
So Accel cost is actually 25000 coin
And G mini cost is 50000 coin
So G mini is 200% more expensive, but to be sure we need to look at grinding time
2500 gem is like 8-12 hours by not thriumph and 4-7 hours thriump grinding with no life
50000 coins is like 13-16 grinding with no life..BUT NO GUARANTEE CHANCE OF GETTING GMINI
what if guarantee chance?🤔
Daily skin= 75000 is 15-20 and you have to wait💀
So I will say that both is good on their ways
Dang
Turret last upgrade is as same as last upgrade on accel is crazy
Idk why ranger last upgrade is so expensive
To be honest it depends on the person and layout, if used g scout or something better probaly accel would kill, it depends more on the player than the tower itself
g cowboy has more dps than g scout
@@jadennguyen2852 g scout has more consistency on the early game so you can farm
@@coelhogames7264 farming wasn't a problem. the issue was the fallen king didn't die, meaning lack of dps. gs would only make the results worse.
@@jadennguyen2852 to be honest you could do it, just need to know how to use it
@@coelhogames7264 you just spam them in optimized spots. thats "how you use it".
For soloing things like molten i found that accel works better and faster than g mini, But g mini is more useful in multiplayer and events
Real
Also how and why i unintentionally got 2 golden crate on my alt and i got two best early game tower which is golden pyro and golden scout lol
Also i think they capped the minigunner firerate because golden minigunner with commander ability would give the minigunner like 400+dps
Overall, Accelerator is better cause Accelerators are reliable as they always target the ''first enemy''. The Accelerator has a built in code which when it starts attacking something, it will give more damage if the enemy is weak and gives coins. Golden Minigunner will never attack the first enemy and overall has a lower dps ceiling. Only upside for Golden Mini is it can be MUCH harder and rarer as it is first to appear, to get as its one of the 6 gold skins costing a grand total of 50,000 coins, still giving you a 1% chance of obtaining it. Then again, Accelerator has a WAY HIGHER potential when it comes to no placement limits. Do not use Golden Mini for any situation, and use Accelerator for solo, duo, trio and squad. Simple.
Bro you literally saying the opposite of them accel never targets the first enemy your just so dumb gmini actually attacks the first enemy and accel has a enemy. Lock and will remain shooting the same enemy and you literally are overrating accel by saying the opposite of whats right
1% you got to be smoking something
And accel has a placement limit of 8 gold mini doesnt have one
Max accel with commander ability does 850 dmg every second don’t yell at me if I’m wrong because I do not know if I did the math correctly that is not including charge time and over charge
And also I round the amount of time it ticks of dmg in a single second
Bro do you have elf camp
For anyone who doesn’t want to watch the whole video, basically gold minigunner won. The reason gold mini won is because it has no placement limit, no charge up, and has better targeting than accel. Accel lost because it has a placement limit, charge up, and bad targeting. Accel is good for events / modes like Badlands, polluted, etc. Gold minigunner is good for coin grinding or just solo queing.
Elite said at the start, the golden mini cost 58000$, but that’s a lie, due to the other golden skins. I‘ve spent 200000$ and still no golden mini, so you have to be really lucky to get it at start, think at least of 100000$.
It depend! Both are usful in there own very common situatiosn which is the BEST ENDING
hi also both are good its situational
in solo gold mini is better, but with people accelerator is better
I don't have gold minigunner but i bring accel and minigunner and place minigunners after i hit the placement limit on accel
Ngl.. I think combining both of them is best and sacrificing dj for the slot.
If u use accel right it can solo fallen everytime but u just dont know how to do it (no hate)
once, in a polluted wastelands game we had all accels in late game but no other towers like engineer, we had supports and stuff but accels STUPID TARGETTING MADE US LOSE WHEN NUCLEAR M\ONSTER HAD 2K HEALTH he summoned a shadow boss
That’s not golden mini that’s plushy mini
You can add the gold effect with any skin
A simple Sum of my opinion,
Accel: Great for playing with others for special rounds, and normal modes.
Gold Mini: A great alternative for others who cant get accel, due to the great dps and the no placement limit!
if u place 36 minigunners in total the mini will have 2376 more dps than 8 accelerators. so the mini is far so much better
uhh im not sure about that math, BUT, golden mini has around the same cost efficency as accel (as in 2.1 or something gold minis have the same damage and cost as 1 accel) and you can get 24+ G minis in 1 game of solo molten/fallen(or norm-) and even more cuz you don't need 16 supports sooo, yeah G mini is better than accel IN solo/duo.
Guys I have proof G mini is better in solo and duo now when I play solo fallen with accel I always die to the tanks due to the height cost of the accelerators but when I play with g mini I usually make it to wave 40 but for trio and squads u can just farm for accel which will work out better so use g mini for solo and duo and accel for trio and squad
I prefer accelerator, i mostly play quads and duos, in duo polluted i can just put 8 accels, 6 rangers/8 jesters, 3 commanders 1 dj and then spam golden cowboy, duo pizza party? i can just put 8 max accels and invest all into gladiators/mortars, once you have enough accelerators his dps will not look inconsistent, my golden minigunner experience outside solos was very underwhelming due to the amount of space golden mini takes, accel is way more compact.
tbh, that wasn't really a fair comparison because you didn't directly compare them in terms of dps, range, placement, solo capabilities, multiplayer capabilities and pretty much just played 1 game with mini and 1 game with accel and gave a pretty vague conclusion and also you chose an old map which doesn't show how they perform on 90% of maps in the game. No hate but i feel like I didn't get any relevant info on which one is actually better in different situations
Cost Efficiency becomes less important the more "Late game" the tower is, Yes level 5 accel isnt as Cost Effecient as Multipul Level 3's but multipul levels 3's arnt killing the amalgamation are they?
use accel in multiplayer. use mini in solo or duo (duo in spacious maps) as it takes up too much space and is worse in midgame.
14:55 sis thing
the only reason on why g mini died to fallen king was because he decided to place his defense all the way at the back so the fallen king was able to take its time walking to the end along with the guards
Overall, Accelerator is better cause Accelerators are reliable as they always target the ''first enemy''. The Accelerator has a built in code which when it starts attacking something, it will give more damage if the enemy is weak and gives coins. Golden Minigunner will never attack the first enemy and overall has a lower dps ceiling. Only upside for Golden Mini is it can be MUCH harder and rarer as it is first to appear, to get as its one of the 6 gold skins costing a grand total of 50,000 coins, still giving you a 1% chance of obtaining it. Then again, Accelerator has a WAY HIGHER potential when it comes to no placement limits. Do not use Golden Mini for any situation, and use Accelerator for solo, duo, trio and squad. Simple.
Tank boss:hehe ur toast
Golden miniguner:you shall no longer exist
Sometimes i just bring both because i use g mini after reaching accel limit when playing duos
He placed both towers in shitty places/shitty placements and thats why he died to the fallen king, i wouldve placed them more to the back so the other things like fallens or Fallen guardians wouldnt even be a problem and he also picked some if the worst towers for backup, he didnt even max all cowboys and instead left the Accells and Golden mini's in their place without selling and replacing them thinkong they could just solo the fallen king
People always assume that Gmini is better for solo but I think accel is better i all modes/situations. You can place down 40 gminis which is only useful in PW2 and Badlands (And hardcore). 40 gminis in solo molten/fallen is nearly impossible.
G mini is way better Tham accel in solo fallen, it's more reliable and no placement
Accel and gmini is equally good, accel has a crazy huge dps which is 500 (idk how its 230+ but since 0.1 atk speed and 50 dmg, ill say it has 500 dps) but it has a placement limit which is 8, and an overcharging thing.
Gmini, has smaller dps than accel but no placement limit and has no overcharging or overheating thing
Idk anymore
Probaly Golden Mini because it has no placement limit but if you bring other tower then it will not be that much good.
Great video and can u help me in badlands
Something, you should retry again with accel and golden mini.
They will both win, you just got bad rng.
Accel is still better, you just got a worse rng with accel than with g mini, he would’ve shredded
Reason minigunner lost bc plushie skin has debuff issue which is miss target
As someone who has both, I see this as an absolute win
Was the main focus accel and mini or cowboys lol
8 Accelerators make up the dps of 17 gminis so if you can place 17+ gminis than gmini is better.
They really need to buff golden towers... There's literally no point in grinding for golden crate if accelerator is only 20 dollars while golden crates are 50 dollars and even then you're not always gonna get golden minigunner.
With the buff for g mini or mini it self i think its kinda better now
Tbh that was skill issue
Bro, accelerator came out in 2020 and the targetting is still shit
Honestly accelerator is better for my opinion because in terms of faster kill time accelerator takes it and in terms of reliability accelerator also takes it if you know how to use it with commander, most people use the reason they leak because of accelerator and thats because you use it irresponsibly the best way to abuse accels kill time is to spam lvl 3 accels and use coa and boom leaks are fixed and also accelerator is way easier to grind as it takes only a few hours or days to get it since grinding gems isnt that hard, Golden minigunner on the other hand takes a few days and u only have a 16% percent chance of getting it although g mini is wayy easier to use even with no coa its useful asf and is cheaper than accelerator is however its availability is what sets it apart from accelerator and accelerator is used in most strats as it is the HIGHEST DPS tower in the entire game other from the engineer of course, now for which is better in my opinion is really accelerator its got dps, cost to damage ratio with lvl 3 being op and its availability and reliability feel free to argue with me in the replies if u want.
The question that keeps me up at night finally I find an answer… thank you
Elite can you help me with the Badlands pls i need the cowboy