Audinate AVIO Dante Audio Adapter: First Look & Review
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2018
- The Audinate AVIO Dante adapters are a new, low-cost addition to the Audinate lineup. Check out how they can help you grow your Dante network for very little upfront cost. 2018-08-29
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awesome stuff. really like the idea of a modded PCDI with Dante connectivity, ive wanted something very similar to this for a long time
I looove that idea of a beefier 'pro' box option! Very cool!👍🏼
Good stuff. Thanks for the review.
Oh you! Teared down at last. Thanks
Awesome idea!
I like the design the way it is. Portability and price perfect. Your ideas are good but if they make something more rugged it’s gonna be expensive so... well like you said it have to be like a level up product. By the way love your videos man.
For a Pro version, EtherCon for the Dante would be great.
Personal I would love a version then with redundant connection possibility.
Did I just get quoted? Great video as usual. I would like to try dropping one of those in video world.
Ha, yes! I thought that quote summed things up nicely.
Excellent!
I would love to see that box with an attachment point for a trigger or c clamp and safety point, maybe there could be a 2 in 2 out, with ethercon loop-throughs, something like that ratsound cat box thingy, idea being you could clamp it to press risers, hang it by the safety off the back of a powered speaker, or clamp it to a truss, and loop through to multiple boxes for really long lines of powered speaker, or many press risers.
Maybe the loop through could have an "extend" or "isolate" mode, extend being all the boxes looped off the first one just mirror the first one, similar to the rat sound solution appearing to Dante as a single 2 out interface, or in isolate mode, where each present themselves as an individual dante 2x2 interface, individually addressable like a normal dante config.
I have 6 of these in use at our site. I too would love to see Ethercon added to this at the least. It would be nice if it had a redundant connection and ran on 1gig. But I'm sure you would not be able to add all that at its current price point. So I would like to see a Pro model as well. Also a rack mount version of this in 8 channels would be great for bringing all your analog wireless mics over to dante.
Thanks for video. Didn't find this info at Audinate official site but saw that you have the image of Dante Controller device connection view too in your video. Do you know why Dante AVIO Adapter connection speed is only 100Mb even when connected to 1Gb switch PoE port?
DANTE is a very good IP Audio solution! I'm working on the design of DANTE audio.
Will the analogue input adapters help me multitack record through my analogue mixer
Thanks for the insight bro. Hey is it possible to hook up to my Avid HD IO & Apogee Symphony mk 2 to control the volume of my interfaces from my Pro Tools Dock monitor knob? I cant afford an Avid MTRX, so I was wondering if this Dante device would help me do at least that. Any advice would help, thank you.
How is the audio quality though. There is an analog to digital and digi to analog conversion that happens with the XLR ones. Is it quality converters? Want for music studio application.
Would love to see a video on the AES3 AVIO adapter. I just got mine and am still trying to see my RosettaAD/Manley Preamp on the network (for recording on the iMac).
Jeff Cogan I’ll see what I can do ✌🏼
These packaged in a 2x2 config in an enclosure like the Rat Sound cat box would be amazing. Maybe Dave could order the raw boards from Audinate and package them in his enclosures since he already has the extrusions and connectors.
I'm not opposed to suggesting this to the team - not sure what their take on it would be honestly, but I fully support the idea! Dante Rat Cat Box for the win! Thanks for the message Alan, stay in touch!
@@DcSoundOp I second that. Would love to see that for a reasonable price
I don't know how much network equipment you understand. I would have sent an ethercon. remove the RJ45 connector from the board, the data transformer is separate from the connector and this is a nice thing.
in addition I would study to give a 15V power supply I assume after the poe. eg not always be linked to the poe.
i have a midas mr12 and want to use waves with it with least latency at the moment waves is in computer conected via usb to the midas mr12 but want much less latency with one of this devices ..
how can i do i need only 1 mic chanel in and out the computer again
Radial Engineering has a couple of Rugged designed "DiNET" boxes.
A metal can about the same size of the plastic wouldn't be a bad idea. I kinda like the size of the original. Nothing will make it Roadie proof... har har har
Great video - I was wondering, how are the cases sealed? With glue? Can they be opened non-destructively? Thanks :)
Hey Aaron, the units are put together using ultrasonic welding, not glue. It might be possible to open them without as much damage as I did, but I certainly wouldn't have destroyed one just for fun.
@@DcSoundOp thanks for the info - I've been given two dead AVIOs (they won't power on), so I'm going to try and open them up. They were shipped to a friend in non-anti-static wrapping, so I think it's an ESD-caused fault on the POE transformer. Probably not worth trying to repair, but it could be fun anyway. Cheers
@@Aaron-rn6pg Hey how did it go?
I have a question:
If you set the Dante AVIO into static IP mode via Dante Controller and forgot what your setting is.
And you move to another environment that need set AVIO into DHCP IP mode,
Is there a way to find AVIO again?
Sorry I didn't see this sooner. There is absolutely a way to recover them! Here is the procedure - www.audinate.com/learning/faqs/how-can-i-locate-a-dante-device-with-a-static-ip-address-in-an-unknown-subnet
When I first read about these I assumed the first would be a 1 in x 1 out version. I guess that doesn't make sense either for live sound or recording though. How often do you need inputs and outputs in the same place?
Good review! Hope you didn't get into hot water totally upgrading / destroying the original unit.
A 1x1 or 2x2 option would absolutely have applications in both live sound and recording. I'm always of the opinion that if you're running a snake, it might as well have a return or two. You never know when you'll need to drop a powered wedge or wired headphone mix in somewhere.
I'm sure these will start to become more common as the technology becomes more common in the coming months. The crew @Audinate have a great sense of humor.
Thx
Have you had any issues with the overall level of output from the AVIO Output adapter?
Thanks for the message. Did you know you can change the output level of the Avio adapters in Dante Controller? Just double click on the device to open 'device view', then go to the last tab on the right for 'Controls' - there you will be able to choose from a number of different output options.
@@DcSoundOp Beautiful!!!!
Is Dante Controller required every time or will they remember the routing from last power on?
Controller is not required at each use, they power up & continue as previously configured.
Hello. Would a pair of these with male XLR connectors work to connect a pair of Yamaha monitors to a Mac using Dante Virtual Soundcard? Cheers.
Absolutely, I use a set for my studio monitors occasionally and it works great. If I didn't reconfigure things so often for testing, I would stick with it full time.
@@DcSoundOp Thinking about the money I could save in case my old but trustworthy FireWire box one day fails. Thanks.
What device do i use to convert my existing 8ch Audio interface?
It all depends on your end goal, do you need eight channels in each direction (to/from) your interface? With more info about what you're trying to do, it will be easier to recommend something specific.
link to that switch?
How much latency is there when using those devices. I want to use Dante for control rooms to talk and listen to a training room . Ideas please!?
Typical default latency for a Dante device is 1ms - when you're setting up a Dante network, you choose the latency depending on the needs & what you are doing. You should check out the free certification courses they offer, it's a great skill to learn & totally worth the time - here's the basics on latency in Dante - dev.audinate.com/GA/dante-controller/userguide/webhelp/content/latency.htm and the Cert course signup - www.audinate.com/learning/training-certification/dante-certification-program
Pro Version with possibility for external power and for input version phantom power to power the unit. Also chassis connector and Ethercon.
Check out the Switchcraft version - ua-cam.com/video/ZylT-7ipQaY/v-deo.html or the Neutrik DPRO if you to go all out on an input version - ua-cam.com/video/Bpq9siRXHik/v-deo.html
Re: Licensing, when you talked about the USB Version:
These would be essential. Apparently, you are only ever allowed to have the license tied to one machine. Forever. How do I know? My DVS License was recently locked, because I switched my production laptop to many times. Never installed on multiple machines at the same time, only ever used it on one machine at the most. But apparantly that is _not_ allowed by Audinate! I think you can imagine my disappointment, when I wanted to install DVS on a new laptop the day before a big festival that I was supposed to multitrack. Luckily, they unlocked my license just in time (30min before show start) but damn, that's the main thing that I really hate about Dante.
I sincerely hope that the industry finally settles on a universal license free standard for AoIP, because this Dante stuff is so annoying at times.
Don't get me wrong, when it works, it's awesome. But I'm constantly lugging around a dedicated windows installation (linux only user) just to deal with Dante.
Re: Build quality: I think it's ridiculous that they're using the yongsheng plugs and molded strain relief - these things will fail in no time in production. That's just poor quality. And of course as soon as you would switch out the plugs you will lose your waranty I bet. I'd probably go ahead and transfer them into a solid metal box of some sort anyway.
Hi!
The DAI-AU-2X0 supplies 48V phantom power for passive DI?
Hi, no this is a line level input with no phantom power supply unfortunately. Great question!
@@DcSoundOp Thanks!
An OLED screen so you can patch devices, something that you don't have to use Dante Controller for. Then again you'd hook up a Dante enabled mixer to do all that I guess.
My setup is simple.
I have a Linux Box that there isn't a Dante Virtual Soundcard and Dante Controller driver/software for... Also Audinate doesn't support Linux. :/
REDNet AM2 2ch Out
I definitely worry about DACs inside- the reason i'm still thinking of these, cause it cost pretty much. Also want to see a mono DAC version.
They have a mono version too - amzn.to/3jEijJV
@@DcSoundOp Yeah, thanks!
Does anyone know how the DAC in these compares to similar Digimedia DACs for analog XLR out?
what's the latency coming from this avio usb adapter into another computer using dante vds?
That’s going to depend on how you have things configured. Latency is configurable in Dante controller depending on your network needs. Here is some info on setting latency compensation when playing back from Dante devices - dev.audinate.com/GA/dvs/userguide/webhelp/content/dante_latency.htm - out of curiosity, what’s the setup your considering using this for?
@@DcSoundOp Much appreciated for your answer. Alright, let's put it this way: what's the minimum latency you have been able to reach with this interface? Thanks
Happy to help anytime. Dante handles latency different than you might be thinking. Are you familiar with setting up a Dante network, if not, the level 1 online videos may be of interest @ www.audinate.com/resources/training-and-tutorials/dante-certification-training - here is a page that gives you the details - dev.audinate.com/GA/dante-controller/userguide/webhelp/content/latency.htm
@@DcSoundOp Well, after looking at this article, it seems that at least the USB AVIO ADAPTER ADDS 20ms OF LATENCY to a network. Pretty horrible to be honest with you www.tedlandstudio.com/copy-of-death-in-paradise-hhdd-part
How do I connect an old racksynth wit only midi in/out to a dante network?
Hey Andreas, Dante doesn't do that as far as I know, but you could use the same network to run a midi over ip setup along side Dante and it won't mind. Here is a forum post on the Reaper forums where some folks are talking about different setups they use for midi over ip. Thanks for the great question!
Pro version is a great idea
We have used these units:
www.monacor.com/products/pa-technology/audio-network-technology/dante/dtta-2/
www.monacor.com/products/pa-technology/audio-network-technology/dante/dtra-2/
Those looks nice David. Do you know if there is a North American distributor or equivalent? With the current exchange, shipping & import fees, they'd be just over $400 a piece here. I do like that they are mic level inputs & the aux input and monitor outputs are really interesting features. I'd imagine these would be very handy to have in the workbox for corporate work.
Thanks for the message!
@@DcSoundOp I'm not sure, they are a German company we use here in the UK. If you find someone who distribute IMG stageline they are the same company.
Radial Engineering DiNET DAN-RX is what you want, but it cost $399
Absolutely, those look awesome. $400 is a bit steep, but radial always over delivers, so I’d imagine they’re very good.
They look solid, but I can’t believe they would go to all of that to build a sturdier, more pro design and not include ethercon.
A pro version with rack mount woud be good
Have you looked at the Neutrik versions yet? I just did a couple of videos on them recently & they might fit what your looking for. Rackable, flyable & super road worthy. ua-cam.com/video/Bpq9siRXHik/v-deo.html Thanks for the message!
it should be a version with power on board, so without necessity of the ethernet switch
How would you be connecting it to a network without a switch? If you just want to go point to point from a computer or other avio... you could use PoE injectors just fine for local power at each adapter. They’re dirt cheap.
@@DcSoundOp yes, but you could need just to send a digital signal from a digital source to just one computer that alone cant receive direct digital signal
@@ergabbio666 I'm not sure I understand. You're saying you want to go point to point from a digital source to a computer... and you could absolutely do that by using a PoE injector ( amzn.to/2O2bCFK) with an AES Avio adapter on one end and the USB Avio Adapter on the computer end, powered by the USB port or another PoE injector. There are even battery powered PoE injectors for situations where you need to do this all on battery, though they are a bit more expensive. Let me know if I'm completely misunderstanding what you're looking to do though. Thanks for the message!
@@DcSoundOp yes i understood i can do it with a PoE, i was just saying it could be nice to have even the possibility to have all in one, so without the necessity to pass through a the PoE injector that in this case it will be use just to give power to AES Avio
@@DcSoundOp anyway i don't want to be misunderstood, i'm a AES Avio happy user! it's a great system, I just was giving another idea that maybe you didnt think about...but i'm not an engineer, and i respect your job!
Waaaayyyy too much time spent on speculating about the physical construction and then the personal hacking project. That's not a product review. If you change the title of the video to something appropriate, like "Re-housing a Dante AVIO adapter," then fine. But as it stands, this is bogus.