Gunsmithing - Stock Finishing with Bar Top Varnish Presented by Larry Potterfield of MidwayUSA
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
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One of the toughest gun stock finishes, uses bar top varnish. Watch along as Larry Potterfield, Founder and CEO of MidwayUSA, demonstrates an easy way to get a hard, durable finish.
Legend has it, he's still applying coats to that stock.
Yes he and we do on my custom hunting rifles every year or so! Been collecting the nearly rifles for 60+ years and still looking for the perfect one🤔😳
The ways Larry teaches are the ways it was originally supposed to be done, by craftsmen. Not the fast & easy answer in a can or plastic is fantastic resolution. These videos are Fantastic...
Evan Moyer *Groan*
Ok boomer
@@Metroid545454 Junior Twit chimes in.
Okay, geriatric. Go sit at the gun show with your jiggly beer belly and an increasingly sour face and attitude as nobody wants to buy your musty Y2K stockpile of .22lr for $2 a round.
Excellent work, Larry... You do things the way they used to be, and should be done. This kind of craftsmanship needs to be kept alive.
Beautiful work! I've never seen such a capable CEO :)
Maybe I should buy stock in his company. Get it? STOCK. Hahahhahahah.
He’s the CEO?! That’s awesome. He’s so good
@@AFishBicycle Not anymore, he retired in March. Their marketing guy was promoted to CEO
Wow, what can I say except thank you so much for sharing this Larry Potterfield. You absolutely have some of the best if not all of the best gunsmithing videos out there, and I am supposedly a master gunsmith according to one of the schools. You have many years of training and experience, which you share freely in these videos, and this is absolutely on of the best of the best.
I am totally blown away by the craftsmanship! That has got to be an expensive piece of art work.
Love the guys' videos. Always learn something. Usually it is patience.
A perfect explanation on how to use linseed oil. Nice.
Wow. The guy won't take second best, love these videos, what a craftsman.
Great job of imparting knowledge. Old school is still the best.
Seriously a true Craftsman. Can’t beat
best practices.
Good job, after sanding and 3 layers of danish oil, I spray 3 layers of 2k clear coat high gloss for cars and it's amazing how beautiful and scratch resistant. It remains beautiful for years. A lot easier to do and a very durable finish
The way Larry respects all of his guns is exactly how it should be for every firearm. And that's the way it is
This is what all CEO s of companies should be like. Know their business with hands on knowledge. Larry needs to run for president of this country!! I would vote for him over the last guys in office any day!!
Raphiel Monendez Larry 2020
That would be awesome. He could end every Presidential speech with "And that's the way it is, muthafukas!"
Your wish would be a dream come true!
Anybody would be better than this asshole we have in the WH now.
@@Peter-976 so tell me how Hillary was gonna be better. Tell me how you can be against a president that works for the working man, not corporate America. Only president in my life who has delivered on his campaign promises and has brought us back to being a respected country with a real leader. Lose your hate and not nearly as much of your ignorance will show.
Great workmanship - starting to understand the price of such a stock.
That stock turned out beautiful.
That stock looks fantastic
Man iam going to get some water in a bowl an do that finger trick 😂
I did but forgot it was my hot coffee,ouch
Larry is a stud .. I did not realize the depth of his skill and knowledge ..
I could watch these all day.
fantastic stockwork Larry! Thanks!
Larry, your carpentry skills are excellent.
Your skill is outstanding. I wish I could learn from a master like you
You just did.
God bless America, this is a mind-numbing process. I am consistently amazed Larry Potterfield hasn't lost his mind trying to be patient.
I was looking for a way to fill the grain prior to finishing a gunstock with tung oil, so I find this video very informative, but it takes forever to finish a stock following every instruction in this video. I've already finished a stock (previously sealed) with tung and teak with success. Now, what I'm going to try is put in practice the general idea of this video with more practical products : Sealing with 2-3 coats of wipe-on poly (thinned poly), followed by the 3-4 coats wet sanding of my own recipe of danish oil (6 parts of Circa Tung and Teak, 4 parts of Minwax satin oil/urethane varnish, 1% Japan dryer, no thinner). With this recipe drying time is down to 2-3 hours, and there's no need for a drying cabinet as long as the temperature is 20 degrees Celsius or over (68 F +) . Wish me luck!
I'm refinishinga Monte Kennedy stock on a rifle that Pfeifer built up on a Mauser action in the mid-1950's here in California.
I'm up to my 6th coat of linseed oil as we kill time here on lockdown. What a great way to live in the slow lane doing a linseed oil finish.
Thanks for the video Larry!
Varnish and THEN Blo? This is why I love Larry's videos. Keep up the good work Midway.
I love the old ways
Did anyone else notice he grew a beard by 5:36....Must be a really long process ;)
each layer took 3 days x 8 layers lol long enough to grow it lol
Yea I seen that to.
Or he has a bad fungal facial disfunction
Lol 😂
I just got to say you are a icon in my book. I would love to take a tour of Midway USA . I would be like a 6 year old in a candy store. 👍👍👍👍👍🇺🇸 love your videos
That is a gorgeous finish!
I never tire of hearing Larry say "morsture"
Some projects can’t be rushed!
that is a crazy amount of time and dedication to just one stock
Well worth it.
your an idiot
You can always work on another project in the time between
Just buy a synthetic stock then!
Your personal collection must be amazing
Beautifully done! I'd be proud to carry that anywhere, although as Beautiful as it is I'd probably leave it in the gunsafe and take my old Model 700!
Bar top varnish on my BAR stock. Im redoing the stock. Im already at the wet sanding part.
Wow this was very complex. I'm going to have to watch it a few more times to understand it.
More videpw like this please!
Back into the gun safe..never to see the light of day again, much less taking afield to risk scratching it.....good job!
What a pain in the ass!!! Unbelievable how many steps are required for this!
Well if you don't like to do it right, just go buy a new gun.
That’s one kickass finish
Beautifull finish im soon to aquire an american walnut stock for my 97k . Looking forward to finishing it myself Joe UK
That is a very nice stock!!
Nice detail in explaining
I get the same results from Daly’s “ship to shore” product and it only take 3 days at most. Once you hit 220 grit apply let dry (04:00:00) then repeat using 320,400,600,800,1000,1200 grit sand papers then dry polishing wheel.
Surprized you didn.t use that Gilbert Myles gun stock you sale very good worked super nice on mine don.t worry Larry like always with you it looks super
Your the best Larry...thanks
Thank GOD. FOR SOME BEAUTIFUL WOOD
This process took so long he had full beard at the end
That was beautiful
Good to see ya used some gloves Larry! haha. Awesome job as usual.
nice work
Unfortunately I don't have the patience for all the sanding and recoating... beutiful job.
Beautiful.
That's what I need to do with the stock on my Winchester Model 60. It was already nearly black and cruddy when I got it 50 years ago.
Did this on my stevens 315
And my 51 navy.
And the wood is gorgeous much better than the factory finish showed
Instead of shellac or varnish as a wood filler, why not use a gellatin or water reduced hide glue? that's what we do when making violins and only 1 coat is needed.
+Mathias Chaidez I seriously doubt you're treating the violins the same way they'll be treating that rifle. As much of a pain in the ass it is to do all of that the surface ends up being super tough ... and that's on top of being completely sealed. Both of those qualities are very important for such a thing as a rifle stock considering the type of work it'll be performing and the type of environment it's expected to perform in , so comparison to a violin (which is normally babied) finish is incorrect.
Would the finish on your violins stand up to the elements outdoors? Sun, rain, snow, cold, heat?
dudes a badass! very nice
Wow, incredible, what is possible.
Larry got that al gore beard thing going on. I used this method On my lc smith looks great took 6 days between coats !
....did you HAVE to bring up that name? lol ugh
My preference is tru oil much easier and quicker but you do you bud.
Just curious if anyone has tried Shaftol, on a stock. Not that I have seen it sold in the USA, it comes from the Ballistol company, brought a can when I moved back to the states. It is linseed oil with different colors, mine is a red tint, and has silicone additives. It is what the gunsmiths at the gun shop I worked at in Germany use to finish stocks.
Gary UA-cam how did I think about this just five minutes ago and it show up on my feed I have not searched this I've never done this in my life I have an old gun I purchased a few years ago and I was just thinking about doing this today
6 coats True Oil works well
nicestock finish
He sanded so long he grew a beard lol
0:46 good God that's beautiful!!
Liquidubricant is my new band name.
Not familiar with "Rottenstone" over here Larry, could it be powdered Pumice ?
I've been woodworking for a long time, by far natural and traditional finishes are my favorite to work with hands down. while I'll be honest and say synthetic finishes such as epoxy, resins like polyester, lacquer like urethane or acrylic can be much stronger, wear resistant and weather resistant. You just don't get the beauty and feel you do using traditional Lacquers like Shellac, Nitrocellulose, oils and varnishes, waxes. EVEN BARE WOOD SANDED SMOOTH.. No really. Although I don't think I'd recomend the two latter for a rifle stock ha. The sweat from your hands would most likely cause your stock to swell. Take that out for a rainy day and you'll have yourself a fat, soggy, misaligned gunstock at the end..
Softer, more natural finishes wear over time yes, but that'll just give your wood character. Something you can't really appreciate with plastics. Not to mention traditional finishes are often easy to fix without disturbing the rest of your piece or using harsh chemicals. Though everyone has their personal preference. Larry dose great work on his stock finishing videos he seems like he knows all the trade tricks.
I'd love to know if PURE tung oil might be a viable alternative to linseed oil. I'm a huge fan of all these instructional videos - the stock finishing dvd with the miles Gilbert kit was even more informative than the UA-cam videos are!
Tung oil takes even longer to cure as it does not have the metallic dryers of BLO.
Any type of boiled linseed oil will work? Or is there a specific brand? Here it looks like it’s a generic from ACE hardware.
Maybe you should put a little lacquer in that varnish....i tell you what
I see bar top varnish is used, does this differ from any other varnish/spar varnish for this application?
what kind of dryers do you add to the b.l.o.the boiled linseed oil that they used in the 18th-19th centuries had lead and other dryers that we now know are toxic. the b.l.o. that we use now doesn't have any dryers that i know of. i have friends that add a lot of japan dryers to their b.l.o., but i just don't use it. it's not a very strong finnish, meaning it may be o.k. for a firearm that doesn't leave the safe more than once or twice a year, but for a flintlock brush gun, nope.all iv'e ever gotten was cracking and crazing. i love your video's. as a self taught black powder gun builder, the video's you produce are informative and very helpfull. thank you very much.
Dang. There's alot of gork goes onto that stock.
What do you do over checkered areas?
I am surprised you don't use a UV cabinet to dry that is what violin makers use.
We must rub with rottenstone before the last coat of oil got dry? This is not very clear.
After
I'd like to know if that drying cabinet is custom made or commercial made.
Linseed oil NEVER dries. Heat it up 20 years after finishing the stock, and it will come oozing back out.
1:03 Shaved
5:36 Fully bearded
Jesus Christ for how long you´ve been making this stock?
I wish it could look like the varnish is wet...damn that looked sexy with the wet grain
Last Sentence..."An additional coat or two..." Additional coat or two of what?
linseed oil i think
I could not locate this product anywhere. It appears the company was bought out and the same varnish is now polyurethane based. My guess is that the EPA killed off the original varnish.
I cant find this varnish can someone tell me please where I can buy this product thanks .
Behlen Rockhard™ Table Top Varnish $24.99 Rockler, $29.95 Amazon.
Midway.....i dont know
A question to Midway USA:
Now that Behlen's rockhard table top varnish is polyurethane based (old non-poly formula no longer available) would you still recommend its use or would you please recommend an (non-poly) alternative ?
Thanks a lot in advance!
I like using water as lube...... Wait are we talking about rifles stocks?
Buenos videos. Vi otros tutoriales de carpinteros que restauran maderas que tienen pequeños golpes usando alcohol en la zona y le prenden fuego y el alcohol al impregnar la madera aparentemente hace que las fibras se hinchen y así el golpe desaparece... Eso funciona con pequeños no con grandes
Has anyone ever tried water based polyurethane varnish instead? I'm just wondering how well it works ...
I would avoid polyurethanes on a gunstocks because it's pretty thick and the hardness with use can chip off. I've seen it before and trust me,
it's no fun trying to fill spots of polyurethane to match the existing coat. Stick with Linseed Oil (boiled dries faster) or Tung Oil is my advice.
YES I HAVE. Modern automotive clear coats are far superior to Larry's finishes.
I have been doing it for over twenty years. Color sanding and polishing will last way longer, and give much greater depth than anything this video shows- FACT.
Not waterbourne varnish. ..Clear coats sprayed at about 40 PSI with a Sata 2000 in an automotive spray booth. Light years ahead of this stuff.
Water based polys are not as tough, go one clear without really adding any depth or definition, and they will raise the grain of the wood. I use it on some furniture I refinish, but I use a washcoat of dewaxed shellac to pop the grain first.
that explains the reaction I had ... :)
Man could I sent my dads ruger 44 mag carbine to be restored an rerifled I cant find a good gun smith around here that I can trust to do it right or trust them in general
Hunter then trips and stock gets scratched......$1500.00 finish is screwed!
Just spray some clear lacquer on it. Sorted.
Then it would be a quick factory stock. He's making something better than factory.
A lot of work.
LP - 2016
Got a K 98....should I put anything on the wood to take care of it ? Thanks
I take it its not the same as work top oil ?
Now I understand why gun makers want people to buy synthetic stocks.
he has a beard at the end!
I like Tru oil.
Not sure about this method. Surely, the linseed oil needs to go on first using a number of layers to penetrate deep into the walnut and to fill the grain. When it’s completely dry it can then be covered by the bar top finish for however many coats. Final rubbing and polishing will provide a gloss finish which is protective and waterproof. Or have I got the logic wrong?