8 Massive Star Wars Plot Holes The Prequels Stupidly Created
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Obi Wan chose to hide on Tatooine because the planet is covered in sand, which is course and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
melvin schrute I get it
alexbeginswitha and anakin hates sand
Re watch the intro you dingbat
Lrthy ya that’s why I said I get it
Not like here. Here everything is soft........... and smooth
I kinda thought Anakin’s ghost looked like that because it was an “Anakin died when Darth Vader was born” kinda deal. It seems more logical to me.
yes, but Anakin redeemed himself before he died. So how does that work?
And also, Jedi become one with the force, not sith. Anakin was a jedi, Vader was a sith.
Exactly
No it’s because when the ghost, A FORCE GHOST is there it’s when the guy was first part of light or dark side
@@aa1589 preach.
"Obi-Wan never owned a droid"
R4 has left the chat...
I wouldn't say Obi-Wan owned r4. More of a loaner from the republic which he never really liked.
R4? Ah, yes! I remember him! He was a better friend and pilot than Anakin!
R4 wasn’t actually his in fact Obi Wan often scolded anakin for his attachment to droids
though r4 was built in to his jedi starfighter, so you can't really call him HIS droid
@@michaelbrocaglia3827 I certainly would not describe it as that. Obi-Wan never disliked R4; I always thought that Obi-Wan treated R4 very well. It's just that Obi-Wan never really had an attachment to droids. He viewed them as machines, evidenced by the line "Well if droids could think, there'd be none of us here, would there".
It's a unique trait among the gearhead Skywalkers that they form such a bond with their droids.
“Military technology always gets better” and Star Wars didn’t do that...*shows clip of Death Star blowing up a planet* seems like tech development to me
The movies aren’t that far from each other and they already have interstellar travel. You want them to all have iPhones or something?
@@robxaviped yes but anachronism is anachronism. He has that point.
At least research some real history before you talking stupid things. Remember when in the WW2 the US military became worst in the end of the war than it was in the start of the war except of the nuke! Is this how it happened?
@@Zodroo_Tint honestly have no idea what you said bc your grammar is bad
@@williamchapa3541 ikr lmao
LOL shut up Peter.
That Plot hole was explained away in
Tales of the Tuscan Brothel issue #159
Shane Exley shut up you..,
DINGBAT!
Rewatch the intro you...
DINGBAT
re watch the intro you scruffy looking nerf herder
Rewatch the intro you...
DINGBAT
Emilio Batres rewatch the intro you
DINGBAT!
The one that stands out worst to me:
Obi-Wan: You will go to the Dagobah system. There you will learn from Yoda, THE JEDI MASTER WHO INSTRUCTED ME.
Qui-Gon: Wow. Ok.
To be fair, Yoda played a role in instructing all of the Jedi. So it *is* true, from a certain point of view. ;)
Yeah...but "You will go to the Dagobah system. There you will learn from a short, green elf-looking but not really an elf, alien troll. He was a Jedi Master and sat on the Jedi Counsel, so he is good. Just a bit hard to understand at times, but roll with it anyway. Trust me." wouldn't have sounded too good coming from a force ghost.
That has bugged me for years. 😂
@@TheGodofSteel and qui gon died with obi wan as a padawan. Yoda might have completed obi wan's training after that
@@TheGodofSteel as always *from a certain point of view*
Vader was going easy on luke, that’s why luke could “hold his own” Vader couldn’t defend against Luke’s anger in rotj but Vader never had it in himself to kill the only family he had left, a child that was born from a girl he always loved
It may seem like Darth Vader is going easy on Luke but his suit limits his movement and he has prosthetic hands and legs plus he can’t sleep
Jacob Reynolds yea for sure, but to adapt to the suit he combined all 7 forms of lightsaber style and made his own.
I always thought it was because luke had a stronger connection to the force because he is the chosen ones son. While vader was the chosen one when he became more machine than man and lost a lot of midochlorians because of it thus he had a weaker connection too the force. I also think it has do due to the fact luke has a stronger connection to the dark side than vader. Vader has gotten used to the dark side and has nothing to live for so he doesn't have as much anger luke on the other hand has a sister, rebellion and a future he wants to protect so his anger would be stronger than vader and allowing the dark side to boost Luke far more than vader.
Vader was totally playing around with Luke- watch Empire, Vader is beating him holding his Lightsaber IN ONE HAND- in Return of the Jedi, Luke has way more skill, Vader starts cocky, gets pushed to an equal duel, then Palpatine pushes Luke to tap into his Dark Side, where he goes Berserk on Vader- Luke doesn't even mean to chop off Vader's hand- he's just hacking away and Vader's grip slips- Pop goes the hand- Looking at his own hand, and remembering his vision on Dagobah, Luke realizes he almost fell to the Dark Side and refuses to fight any more
Vader was trying to capture Luke for sure. He wasn't trying to kill Luke -- and even then Vader freakin' destroys Luke in ESB.
10:02 Palpantine was going to train Luke then dispose of Vader and have Luke instead. He did that with Dooku
He also knew the dark side force use to gain immortality. Perhaps he knew his days were numbered and was looking for his replacement since he knew his spirit would continue on...
@@Meatball2022 rosw would like to argue that his days was not numbered 😂😂😂😂
but they both knew they wanted to kill each other....
I always thought Palpatine planned to bring Luke over to the dark side by sacrificing himself to Luke. Palpatine tells Luke to strike him down and his journey to the dark side will be complete.
I always assumed Leia was talking about Senator Organa's wife, her adopted mother. Because at that time, she still thought she was her biological mother.
Because she is. She doesnt know shes adopted.
Then shouldn’t she say “what do you mean by real?” I’m not adopted (as far as I’m concerned) and if someone said “your real mother” to me I would be confused. Also according to the supplementary material (Both Legends and Disney) say her adopted mom died in the destruction of Alderaan, and Leia says the mom she remembered “died when she was very young”.
It was obvious from the way the seen played out in the original that they where talking about there real mother. That's the point of this video. You changed your conclusion once the prequels came out to fit the plot hole.
@@commonsenseaintsocommon2354 Actually no, the prequels didn't create the plothole. The Return of the Jedi did.
@@Guy-cb1oh
No the prequels created the plot hole. The original story never said when there mother died. It's assumed during that conversation that there talking about there real mother. It wasn't till the prequels that we saw the mother die at birth. There for no one would be questioning this memory of her mother if the prequels where never made.
Obi wan: I don't remember ever owning a droid
R4-P17: am I a joke to you?
GONK. exe lmao
"No, you're my bro!"
"Bro! :`)"
Maybe he was suffering from dementia...
Yes you are joke to him you were destroyed by dismantler droids
Oof...
“It seems in your anger, you killed her” Vader thought the baby died with Padme. Hiding him on Tattooine was fine, without the link of the Skywalker name (as he thought the kid was dead) there would be no reason for him to look for Obi-Wan there. Plus the Hutts were in charge there even when the Empire was at large. so information wouldn’t be as easy to get from there as it would from the core worlds. So it wasn’t that bad of a place to hide.
Not to mention he hates Tatoinne with a passion and likes to pretend it doesn’t exist
I disagree with number 1 of "rule of two". I remember way back when Phantom Menace first came out and my friends and I discussed that rule of two. Darth Vader and Palpatine would not kill each other, they each wanted Luke to kill the other and then take Luke on as an apprentice.
Darth Vader told Luke that Palpatine had foreseen his own distruction through Luke. Vader is glad about this because it will mean the end of Palpatine, a master that he hates but also he can't kill. If Vader wanted to kill Palpatine, he had so many opportunities in the past, and never took them.
Darth Vader can't kill Palpatine because it's his own master. Palpatine won't kill Vader, because he needs Luke to kill his own father in order to seal him up on the Dark Side. So, each one of them want Luke to off the other. Ain't Sith great?!
Excellent point!
Needed to read the comments before I blathered my opinion. I think you covered my every point I was about to make. Although the books aren't considered canon, there are several people Palpatine would have liked to recruit to sort of usurp Vader. Even Prince Xizor was being groomed in the background, not to mention, Palpatine had the Mara Jade card up his sleeve. It was only the holographic communique in ESB where Vader tempts Palpatine with the Son of Skywalker. You can almost hear the gears turning when Palpatine approves of Vader's choice not to destroy Luke, but to lure him. Vader has one thing in mind, but unbeknownst to him, Palpatine has something different altogether.
Sorry so late a rejoinder to your original comment!
Obi wan knew Anakin hated sand and would never go to Tatooine. Simples
Genius hahahaha
But he did go back by request of the emperor to talk to Jabba and messed another village of sand people up, didn't sense his master or Luke
More like simpleton
the bear grills of lamp stores His hatred for the planet and people probably was more powerful than thinking about Obi-Wan.
Shut up dingbat
Well, It makes sense that Obi-Wan would want to hide Luke on Tatooine. Anakin/Vader hates sand. He doesn't want to go back
It's rough and gets everywhere.
and who wouldnt? its course and rough and gets everywhere
Lucas Allen not to mention Vader wouldn't want to go back to the planet on which his mother died
What about the rest of the empire also looking for obi wan
Lucas Allen
Yeah, on the Death Star everything is smooth.
The reason they want the jedi to begin training at such a young as wasn’t because of how long it takes to train but rather because the jedi want them to have as few attachments as possible
Truly evil
@@-Darkrie_- In my opinion, the Jedi are evil. Taking away little infants from their parents is one of the most evil things I can imagine
So now they have a huge attachment to their masters... or the kids of the same class... or do friends not count as "attachments"? Those Jedi rules are the stupidest idea ever and just make the Jedi look extremely dumb and bad.
Like, instead of helping each other when something bad happens they just are like: no nothing bad happens because you have nothing good to begin with, problem solved
@@juan95194 I think attachment to their Master, Other Students, and the Jedi way is the ONLY attachment that they did want. They wanted new Jedi's to put the order above everything else, even their own lives.
@@juan95194 thats kinda the point the jedi order were kinda starting to lose their way
About the first one notice how all the small ships had to have an Attachable hyperdrive system, but not in the original trilogy, possibly meaning that technology improved
I aged faster because there are 2 suns on tatooine
rofl
Of course! If we age 1 year for every lap around the sun, if you're lapping 2 suns you age 2 years at a time. No, I'm not high...
@@veedriver then one year on tatooine would make me 2 years older but that's not true because tatooine spins slower then 'earth'
Dear god. How did you actually get this as your name? 😂
Hello there
Ewan was 34 in Revenge of the Sith. Add 19 to that and makes him 53. Obi-Wan was 57 in a New Hope. So your argument is not valid
moronmonkey1 and men tend to age a lot in there 40s and obi wan was living on a desert and also tattooin has two suns
moronmonkey1 are you aware 53 and 57 are not the same number
The big W Yes I am aware 😂. But it’s four years off. Which is not that much. Especially when you make a movie 20 years later and try to match it up. A person is probably gonna look pretty similar at age 54 as they would at age 57.
The big W They were also trying to act like the plot hole was that as Ewan Mcgregor as Obi-Wan he was 20 years younger than he actually should be but it’s not that. It’s only four years
The big W 4 years fuckin apart stop nitpicking
The reason they said little Ani was, "too old, " was because he had emotional attachments which could lead to the dark side.
Kenobi hid on tatooine because, "I don't like sand."
"We wanted to make sure Vader's kids were hidden, so we gave one of them to his half-brother and the other one to the Senator leading the rebellion." Sounds like a great plan.
The rule of 2 isn't a plothole. Palpatine disregards the rule of two just as his master did.
Also he planed to replace Vader with Luke. So 2!
And Vader openly talked to Luke about killing the emperor and ruling as father and son, anyway. So yeah, pretty much exactly as Peter said, they both planned to stick to the rule of 2 but they were both planning on replacing the other. But the thing is, that's ALWAYS how Sith have worked, there's always two but they're always trying to find better replacements because they're evil power-hungry sons of bitches, so it isn't a plot hole anyway.
Dooku was training ventress
Vader was training starkiller
Demmrir actually before darth bane’s establishment of rule of two there where thousands of sith
@@niilorantala9582
What? He means that they all used the rule of 2.
"Why did Obi Wan age so quickly?"
Me: "Stress man"
Idk hes like 45 in new hope
if you are in the sun hella you look older plus double the sun
That’s not even a real excuse
@@Armyjayden33 Actually he's about 10 years older, and iirc the actor was only 57 at the time of new hope.
@@edwardegan2304 so you're assuming time works the same on a planet with two suns. Obi wan was in his thirties during ROTS. Assuming ANH happened 20 years later, the ages match up
The reason the Jedi were usually trained very young was because they would have emotions that might hinder their abilities and they’d have abandonment issues
“Luke’s training was too short”
Rey: *allow me to introduce myself*
Rey: "You guys trained?"
Ma-Rey sue
For a girl that grew up on a desert planet ... she sure was a good swimmer. WTF !?!?
@@michaelminervini1908 I didn't even think about that. It seems like every day, people find something wrong with the sequels.
She had about the same training time because she trained in between tlj and tros
The reason Obiwan hid in plain sight on Tattooine is quite understandable purely based on the movies. As you mentioned, Kenobi and Yoda wanted Luke and Leia to be hidden from Vader and Sidious (note, Kenobi and Yoda didn't care about basic stormtroopers).
As Sidious would hardly ever go into the field himself, it was up to Vader to do the fieldwork. Now what is the last planet Vader (Anakin) would visit in the Galaxy? Tattooine of course, he hated that place. And sand.
Idk it still seems sketchy because if he had a death star the first place I would think he would blow up is the place he hates.. for science of course. ;)
Well, Vader never had a Death Star. (And even if he would get one, it would have been highly unlikely, Kenobi would predict that. Furthermore: Would you destroy your beloved mothers grave without any need?)
Alresu true Vader may not have owned one so there is that but as far as his mother's burial site sith don't hold their parents in high regard being dark and all
You are thinking pretty one dimensional there. He is a person. With feelings and motives. With people here cares about (even when they are dead).
Alresu which would be true if he was only corrupt. He was sith which is why he was willing to kill his own son and daughter if luke hadn't changed his mind later on after defeating him mind you
Most of these so-called plot holes can be easily explained by what is shown in the movies alone. Kind of disappointing that they would make this video and not bother to think any of them through.
Watch the intro you....
Dingbat
jk srry
Don't do one that includes the sequels...we'll be here for hours.
Days
@@kianvandenakker126 years
@@DragonofRiva Decades
What sequels? *waves hand mysteriously* "These are not the movies you are looking for...."
The Prequels: anytime they're criticized, someone has to bring up the sequels.
"The technoligy got worse in the ot"
Me: looks at Death star
The design for it comes from the prequels,so it's technically a technology from the prequels,not the ot.
Unfortunately that is one plot hole that you primarily have to go to the expanded material to get filled. Really the only example I can think of in the films of something that seems to advance technologically (Other than the Death Star [which while conceived of during the Prequel Era took years to build and was the most technologically advanced piece of engineering in the galaxy when it was completed]) are starfighters' hyperdrives. In the OT all fighters aside from TIEs have built-in hyperdrives. In the prequels we see a major example of a fighter that does not in the Jedi Order's starfighters that had to use those hyperdrive rings. Other fighters that don't seem to have a hyperdrive are: most Droid fighters, V-Wings (given their similarity to TIEs) LAAT gunships, and possibly ARC-170s (I know we don't see them enter hyperspace in RotS but I can't remember for sure about TCW).
Colby Geslison To be fair, most of the prequels were set in the core worlds, while the Original Trilogy was set mostly in the outer rim, also The Clone Wars could’ve affected the technology.
@@aributera4905
Exactly a good example of that in real world would be East Germany after WW2 and how long it took them to rebuild and catch up. They didn't till the 80's
@@aaronscott4984 This excuse works for the rebels, but certainly not for the empire. It would mean that a star fleet belonging to a massive superpower, commanded by the right-hand man of the emperor, made do with tech from *two* generations ago to crush a rebellion. Sorry I just can't see that.
Young Hayden Christensen played anakins ghost because a Jedi’s ghost is portrayed by the Jedi they imagined themselves to be when they died.
Johan Giggleburg Thank you!!!! No one seems to grasp this simple and obvious concept!!
Because he never knew what he truly looked like underneath that suite! Good point.
I don't think for many fans, those who grew up with the Original Trilogy, dislike this so much is because it wasn't always Hayden Christensen, and so it just didn't need to be changed. Of course those who grew up with the prequels think this is fine because that's the Anakin they grew up knowing, but if you now went back and changed parts of the sequels to have characters that were in some yet unwritten movie to that, or inserted other unnecessary CGI scenes just because technology has moved on, then I think these fans would get pissed off with someone tampering with the movies they grew up loving. I think the other problem those that don't like the prequels, they're bearable, but not in any way classics, is that Hayden Christensen was such a bad actor, or at least given such a bad script that reminding us that this was him at a younger age. I don't buy that he was that way as a force ghost because it was before he turned to the dark side, that to me makes no sense. He was redeemed before his death and turned back towards the light at the end of Return of the Jedi and at that point would have become a force ghost, otherwise he'd have had to made the decision before he turned and that's not going to happen. Anyway that's mute, it was done on a whim to make the movie appear more attractive and tie the Original Trilogy to the Prequels, nothing more, nothing less, nothing to do with lore or anything else. It was done on a whim by Lucas.
@Anakin Skywalker George lucas in an interview after the last prequel
But clearly Anakin wouldn’t imagine himself as the same person who killed kids. Also how is Luke supposed to know who it is? Some people can’t just get over the fact that it is undeniably a dumb change.
I just like to assume that Leia only remembers her mom through the force
“Amazing almost all of what you just said was wrong” : Luke Skywalker
Ahaha
In one of the most terrible movies of the franchise
@@Dazzler825 The best movie in the franchise
@@thegoodreylo4749 YES
Why do people hate the prequels? I personally loved them 🤷♂️
I agree some of the acting/dialogue is shocking but action scenes are great
I like them, but between the different trilogies there are way to many holes, like why can Rey transfer vitality to safe the wierd snake and Kylo Ren, but Yoda and Obi Wan just thought well it doesn’t matter whether Padme lives or not. Same goes for Darth Vader and Luke in Episode 6 and Qui Gon and Obi Wan in Episode 1
Originals + prequels > sequels
Jar Jar Binks mainly. No idea what George Lucas was thinking with that stupid character.
yee same
Vader was holding back in both encounters with Luke. He never wanted to kill him, he wanted to turn him to the dark side.
eah and he let him cut off his hand for fun too
Well you see, Vader didn't really plan for Luke to go all berserk on him, and he was still conflicted emotionally. Anakin was starting to take over, while Vader was dying. Anakin could never kill his own son. You should read up on some of the lore, the movies dosen't really explain a whole lot.
Kenny Spillman did you see him in Rogue One? That's very small compared to what he did to most other people
The movie covers this imho already perfectly.
Episode VI made your first point crystal clear.
The Hayden Christiansen one was because that is what he looked like when he was a Jedi and before he turned to the dark side
Still it doesn’t fit with old Yoda and Obi-Wan.
@@enriquemedina3631 they died as Jedis, Anakin’s Jedi self died when he became Vader. Therefore the ghosts show them as they died as Jedis
I think it makes more sense when you consider the prequel era. If the point of the old one is to be if Anakin hadn’t turned (the reason he aged badly being that he needed to use the dark side to keep himself alive due to his injuries) then he should not be looking like an old man because Anakin was only 45 when he died. It makes more sense to have him be younger because literally everyone that has known Anakin, would think of the young one. This extends to Anakin himself. When he was Vader, every time he looked back on his past or “Anakin”, it was his younger self. Only Luke saw Anakin as that old man but Luke isn’t that stupid to not figure out that the young man is his father.
@Anakin Skywalker Read my comment, it doesn’t make much sense when you consider the prequels. It made sense in the originals but it doesn’t make the much sense anymore after the prequels came out.
The reason that the AT-AT is tall rather than functional like the AT-TE because the AT-TE was meant to fight a serious army to army conflict whereas the AT-AT was meant to inspire fear as part of the Tarkin Doctrine therefore tall and scary rather than short and stable.
In regards to # 7, Luke used a crap ton of XP boost while training with Master Yoda. Mystery solved!
100 rare candies= Jedi master
how many regular newb jedi got 1on1 training with yoda? then the "potentially most powerful jedi ever" gets one of the greatest jedi masters ever to tutor him almost non stop for however long. of course hes going to improve greatly very fast.
I dont think the Jedi used to prefer to start training Younglings at such a young age because the basic fighting training takes a long time, mostly its because they dont have too many preconceived or ingrained notions of how the universe works at that age so can be easily taught Jedi doctrine.
Did he use a Game Genie?
Luke Skywalker was carrying a Lucky Egg. 1 & 1/2 × experience per battle
single handledly blows up the death star, the amount of XP from that alone should have him sitting on like 10 levels.
I don't like sand.
"Every line in the sequel trilgoy"
Daniel Lopez what
@@sheevpalps3846 every piece of dialogue in the sequel trilogy is cringier than that quote from aotc
Then why does he keep going there to meet jaba the hut?
Sedados ersancobon
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8. The galaxy became more poor after the empire rose. Also most of the technology you mentioned was just bad special effects.
7. This isn't clearly explained but Luke was actually training for 6 months to a year and 6 months. Also Return of the Jedi is set 3 years after Empire Strikes Back.
6. Obi Wan aged so quickly because first of all he was in his 40s in ROTS and ANH is set 19 years after ROTS and secondly he was depressed, sleep deprived and had ptsd.
5. Because it's hard for people to find people in a desert planet and Vader hated Tatooine so Obi Wan knew Vader would never go there.
4. Tbh idk this one but I think it's because you can choose what form of yourself you want to be when you're a force ghost.
3. She was force sensitive which means she could remember that. And Bail probably showed Leia pictures and videos of Padmé.
2. He did, he just didn't want to tell Luke that. It would probably lead Luke into asking who his father was.
1. Palpatine wanted to bring Luke to the darkside by making Luke kill his own father. And Vader thought Luke would help him kill Palpatine.
(Note: Yes I did watch the intro)
Um...no Return of the Jedi is set 1 year after the Empire Strikes Back.
@@jedijessic no
@@irishspudlad From Return of the Jedi
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: Plot
A year after Han Solo's capture,[a] C-3PO and R2-D2 are sent to crime lord Jabba the Hutt's palace on Tatooine in a trade bargain made by Luke Skywalker to rescue Han.
Jessic is correct. You probably just got the movies mixed up a bit. Between ANH and ESB is 3 years and between ESB and RTJ is 1 year. Or like 6 months or something but its a new year 3ABY to 4ABY
Dude you just shot plot holes in his plot holes 😂😂😂
Anakin would be unlikely to go back to Tatooine:
1. He has so many traumatic memories on Tatooine
2. He wouldn't want to go back there
3. It's a desert planet and deserts are full of sand, Anakin hates sand
I just would like to point out, mustafar would be pretty traumatic for him, and its where he created his castle
@@MegaPuggz Mustafar serves as a conduit for the dark side
So creating his castle there is perfect
@@sarveshnathan7559 im aware and I agree its perfect, my point was, op said tatooine had a lot of traumatic experiences so vader wouldnt wanna go back there.. But i disagree as trauma is pain and that is more power in the darkside
“Better quality holograms”
My man, I thought you said you didn’t care about CGI or FX improvements
Plus they go from shades of blue to a blue tinted full-color image.
I think he refers to the quality in the Star Wars universe, not real life technology/quality
@@JansenGlasc But that is a real life quality, it doesn't really matter.
That's like saying the lightsabers look better as a plot hole
For someone bitching about a film being inconsistent, he's being a bit inconsistent himself. 😂
This Dude Is Out Of His Damn Mind & Needs To Move On With His Bullshit. We ALLLL Know Why 4-6 Were Altogether A Step Up, Were Gorge & The Crew Supposed To Keep The 1970’s Look Of Space & If So They Did A Good Job Of That. When We Were Flying Around Space In Pop Cans With The Computing Power Of A iPhone 1 In Real Life. They Had To Spice It Up To Compete With WHAT THEY STARTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. Can’t Really Hate On That. Now The Last 3.........🚮The Mandalorian.📘🔥🎥💣🔐
They built a spaceship that can wipe out entire planets and your saying technology went backwards
Nope - watch the prequels again.
The Death Star began as a Geonosian design. The first Death Star's schematics are visible in the scenes on Geonosis in Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones showcasing the early development of the Death Star prototype, the Death Star plans were designed by Geonosians led by Archduke Poggle the Lesser, a member of the Confederacy of Independent Systems, and is shown early in construction at the end of Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith.
Eclipse is Legends
@@jacksporran7468 Its not a Geonosian design Sidious was planning it since then and they were talking about his plan. The Geonosians were not smart nor advanced enough to make the death star. The geonosians had nothing to do with it the CIS befriended the leader of them so they could hide a droid factory on Geonosis. All the technology is from the CIS
@mjkalasky That might have to do witgh the fact that there was a 16 year gap between both trilogies.
Exactly
"The weapons are better in the prequels even though it was earlier in time"
The Empire and their death star: Am I a joke to you?
I know it's hard to imagine for most fans, but some people have really only watched the movies and for these people, the plotholes still matter.
So, i just watched the original movies yesterday and the rule of 2 wasnt going to be broken. Palpatine intend for luke to try to strike him down and knew that vadar was going to stop that from happening. Its was the emperor's plan all along to have luke strike down his father in hate and take vaders spot as his apprentice. Thats why he tried to kill him when he refused.
“Lukes training wasn’t long enough”
Also Luke *Loses his first battle*
Rip hand
thats me in pokemon
StevieD Rey won because kylo was shot
Korven007 _ yeah, Kylo could’ve wiped the floor with Rey if he didn’t get shot.
StevieD i know
You´re assuming all humanoid charachters are humans, and years are earth like years
well actually time is based on Coruscantian time and Coruscant has a very similar rotational and revolutionary pattern as here on Earth so one year on Coruscant is basically a year on Earth too. Also, in legends it was described all humans were based in Coruscant as their home planet and them all being the same species, but that is still not canon.
If 2020 has taught us anything it’s that a few bad years can DEFINITELY age someone quickly
Palpatine specifically said “take your father’s place” so it wouldn’t break the rule of two.
Alec L. Exactly! Palpatine wanted Luke to kill Vader. Also Anakin probably never heard of t he rule of two. Remember that in Episode 3, Anakin thinks that the Jedi are hiding things from him. Also Darth Sidious never mentioned the rule of two, only Yoda and Mace Windu did.
Alec L. Yeah, Even if you were just a casual fan who watched the original trilogy you would have picked that up, this guy seems to just be trying to find ways to hate on the prequels which realistically weren’t that bad, I’d kill for a prequel like production over this new Disney shit
Hoerry Sheeeit the prequels were amazing tbh. At least 2 and 3
Zeke Robinett the rule of two and what you stated are two completely different things. The rule of two is a sith rule established by Darth Bane that there must be two sith, a master and an apprentice. Doesn’t apply to the Jedi whatsoever so Anakin even with that, still wouldn’t have known what the hell it is. What the original commenter said is correct though
To be honest palatine, at least in the movies, never states he follows the rule of two. Only yoda and windu mention it, even in the movies there's palpatine, dooku and grievous. Maybe grievous doesn't count because of the lack of the force but still
As my master once said, the ability to speak does not make one intelligent.
Awesome self-contained demonstration.
Who's that fake account?
Gary The Stormtrooper That’s from the movies... 🤦♂️
@@viloinvictus thats from the movies
Did Steve say that?
Yoda refused to train luke at first because he’s too old.... it’s the same thing
but luke was like 20 when he wanted to start training... Anakin was 10 years old.. how is that too old ffs? Are the suppodsed to enter the jedi order right when heir mother pops them out?
@@meganoob12 the theory goes that a child at anakin's age would have time to form attachments which is a big no no for the jedi. They usually take in humanoid children under the age of 4 before permanent memories occur so that they don't remember their old families
Honestly the hayden ghost change made the ROTJ so much better, that one scene was like wtf, I’m glad they added that change
Obi-wan does recognise R2 on the falcon when no one was around he said to R2 “hello old friend”
It's "come here my little friend" but it still checks out.
Brandon Kelly Its not, you need to read one of the book about the movie since the O.T. was created before the prequels obviously so that was explained later in a book so make both trilogies connections smoother
Brandon Kelly Well not reading the book doesn’t affect your understanding of the movies all that much it just eases the connection between the O.T. And the *PREQUELS* ya see how they’re called *PREQUELS* meaning they’re movies made after but set at a time before their correlating movies, prequels made 30 years after the O.T. that wasn’t meant to be a trilogy in the first place, with a situation like that you kinda need extra media’s so explain and help smoothen the flow between them so what can you do??? I never read any of the books and I get the movies, just heard about obi wan saying that from a you tuber and it don’t really affect me just something to say “huh” about
moldy_underwear _ he literally says in the intro that books are not being considered
Brock Mulhearn if books were considered than almost none of the points made would be valid. They only say that so that they can put out a video and net views. If books were considered, which they should be then this video wouldn’t exist making their points null they’re changing the rules of canon to make a video that doesn’t need to be made
1 makes perfect sense. Vader and Palpatine knew that one of them would have to die to recruit Luke, but both needed the other's help to get him on side. Palpatine wanted Luke to kill Vader and turn to the dark side. Vader wanted him and Luke overthrow the Emperor and 'rule the galaxy as father and son'.
Lucy Hartwell BUT BOTH OF THEM WOULD KNOW THAT THE OTHER WANTED TO KILL EACH OTHER!!!! That's a terrible work relationship
That's the point of the rule of two, they're suppoesed to hate each other because that makes them stronger in the dark side to the point where they were strong enough to defeat the Jedi.
They're Sith, of course they have a terrible work relationship
Your explanation
We know (before the prequels) from EU that the Emperor had other apprentices, he doesn't respect the rule of two. I know this sort of breaks the 'don't bring EU into this' rule, but in the case it isn't retconning anything. There's also the possibility that the emperor was training prequel apprentices simultaneously - he was certainly grooming Anakin whilst Dooku was still his apprentice. Dooku's death is also an allusion to the Luke/Vader scene in ROTJ, which in turn backs up your original point.
To everyone saying Leia’s remembering her adopted mother: Luke asks her “Do you remember your mother? Your *real* mother?” And Leia doesn’t question it. If Leia was unaware of her adoption, she would’ve asked “what do you mean by real?” I would be confused if someone said “your real mother” to me since as far as I know, I’m not adopted.
Also, whether you go by the Legends canon or Disney canon, according to Queen Breha’s wookieepedia article in both versions she died in Alderaan’s destruction and Leia says the mom she’s remembering died when she was young.
Leia knew nothing of her biological mother... she didnt even know Vader was her father yet, she was even kissing Luke so I think its safe to say she didnt know she was adopted. Even if she was talking about Padme then it's easily explained by force visions. The prequels literally introduced force visions.
Brushing aside how Luke knew she was adopted in the first place (a plot hole in the originals, mind you), Leila says all she can remember of her real mother is images & feelings which is easily explained since we know she can use the Force.
@@TheBravesfan30 Just because she didn't know WHO her bio family was doesn't mean she was unaware of her adoption to begin with. I wasn't suggesting she knew she was Vader's daughter/Luke's sister just that she knew she was adopted. Plenty of adoptees are aware they are adopted but not who their bio family is.
Yeah I’d say the Organa’s told her she was adopted but not from where
When Luke is fighting Vader in Return of the Jedi Palpatine tells him to destroy Vader & take his place. Therefore preserving the rule of two
Luke was able to hold his own, against vader in empire, because vader was toying with luke and didn't want to kill him.
Ya and when he finally bested him in combat Vader still really didnt want to win. He wanted to give in to Luke's beliefs that there was good left in him. He loved his son as much as he loved padre or more
In empire, vader was testing Luke, to see if he is truly ready to take Vader's place.
and ntm. by then. Luke had at least got some training from Yoda. rather than Rey. who didn't know jack.
GrandAdmiral Zod and that's why it makes no sense. Luke wouldn't turn on kilo bc he saw a vision. what a load of shit. even mark hamil says. Luke in the new star wars isn't the same Character as the luke from the trilogy.
@@Jspotstudieos I love how people still like to pretend that it's 100% in-character though.
I was expecting stronger and harder-to-defend plot holes, but most of these are so meh... You don't even need outside sources to debunk them
Slayed with facts and logic
Then debunk them
Most of these do not matter to the plot, so there is little need to defend them in the first place, but the sequels actively tear apart the originals and themselves
@@lukecaulley2922 Bashing another thing doesn't make the thing you are talking about better
Kislay Parashar I know, but why does that matter, it doesn’t change what said
For the last one, I think they both had different motives. Vader wanted Luke to join him, so he could kill palpating and Luke could become his apprentice. He mentioned this in Episode V when he said “Together we can destroy the emperor.” As for Palpatine, his motive was that he wanted Luke to kill Vader, just like how Vader killed Dokku many years ago.
which is exactly what was descriebed in this video, but doesn't solve the problem at all. The point is that they are discussing the option to recruit luke in Empire, whilst both should know very well that they try to get rid of one another by doing so... Why would they simply discuss this openly? The moment Palpatine orders Vader to not kill Luke, but to rather bring him infront of him, Vader should know that Palpatine tries to kill him
profit. its an absolute win.
He's complaining that the prequels don't match up to the original trilogy, but Lucas didn't see the whole picture yet when he made 4-6. Personally I much prefer the prequels and believe it is the original trilogy that created plot holes once the good movies were made and needs patches. Also the jedi should take decades to train and it was tacky that luke learned the force in that short time even if it was a whole year
But Vader had a clunky suit that slowed him down so it makes sense that Luke beat him
11:05 Didn't Emperor Palpatine actually laugh when Vader and Luke started their final fight in Return of the Jedi? Doesn't that imply that he wanted that to happen? And isn't it the same as how he instructed Anakin to kill Dooku in the beginning of Revenge of the Sith? Even more, didn't he directly tell Luke to kill his father at the end of that battle? If the answer to all of those questions is yes, then it seems your point about the "Rule of 2" is invalid.
Yes exactly. The rule of two stands. Vader knows he will be killed and replaced or will kill his son (obviously in the end he kills palpatine) and palpatine knows Luke will replace Vader should he kill his father. Palpatine immediately tried to kill Luke when he wouldnt kill vader so palpatine was prepared to play it both ways but didnt realise vader would jump in. It's not a pothole
He did in Episode 3 too he motivated Anakin to kill Doku.
“Now fulfill your destiny, take you’re father’s place at my side.”
Palpatine
Vader:
“Together we can rule the Galaxy like father and son.” He can’t rule if he remains to be the pet of the Emperor. There is selfish motives from both because they know that whoever enters the fray with much power either can be destroyed.
Actually I always thought that Obi-Wan said that he doesn't remembering owning R2 sarcastically.
ctgstudios421 I always thought that too, and R2's memory was wiped at the end of episode 3.
Yeah, he says he doesn't remember owning a droid and the prequels never showed him owning a droid. Not an issue.
Ya, If you remember R2 was the one lying, saying he was owned by Obi-wan.
Let's be honest. This wasn't going to be the first time he spoke in half-truths in the series :/
Let's not forget, the man loved to drink.
What bugged me is that they didn't change Luke's last name, leaving him as a pawn doomed for death.
The reason why there is no battle droids is because Emperor Palpatine states that all droids should be destroyed and all production should end and he says that in episode 3.
I’m gonna say the obvious no one hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans
Bullshit
@Conor Brennan... You do be spittin straight fax tho.
I liked the prequels tho. I especially loved revenge of the sith. The sequels on the other hand...
@33dbz... me too, ROTS is pretty fucking great. About the Sequels, I don’t love em, I don’t hate em. But at the end of the day it’s still Star Wars and acceptable I guess... 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
IKR
Luke's training was fine. He trained a bit in episode 4, presumable between 4 and 5, trained in 5, and then trained for over a year before he really fought Vader. And the issue with training Anakin as he was 'too old' isn't a reference to how long it takes to train someone, but that they need to be properly indoctrinated into Jedi ideology and lifestyle.
They weren't afraid that it'd take too long, it's that he was in danger of turning to the dark side one day.
Also to be fair Luke never quite fought Vader at his full slaughter capacity.
exactly what I was thinking, it's not "training" that takes the time, it's indoctrination
@@zacharytomes5202 Vader could fight fine, he was just restrained and clouded by emotions just like episode 3, because he was fighting his own son and saw the same perspective that Ob1 had during that fight, that's why Vader "lost".
But the issue with the length of time training is what OT fanboys always bring up about Rey. Thing is Luke had very little training and Anakin had zero training but could pilot a podracer and then just a few days later pilot a ship in battle against the Trade Federation. Can't complain about Rey's training and not do the same about Luke's and Anakin's training without being a hypocrite
Brian Reed Some are just more naturally attuned to the force then others. Skywalkers and Rey fall into this.
For the R2-D2 point of Ben not saying he knows that exact droid, he knows him he’s just doesn’t say because he’s not going to tell Luke everything immediately like how he doesn’t tell Luke that Darth Vader, the Darth Vader is his father.
Vader was trying to break rule of 2 if he could make Luke come to the Dark Side together they could overthrow Palpatine.
He knew Vader wouldn't come back to Tatooine because he hates sand
AngryGoats555
Darth Vader has every reason to be afraid of sand. Anakin may have hated it, but Vader should fear it. I mean think about it, could you imagine how much sand blowing around in a sand storm would really mess with Darth Vader's breathing apparatus? LOL
In fact anyone who knows that they are about to come face-to-face with Darth Vader, or is worried about the possibility of an encounter with Darth Vader, should just carry around a pocket full of sand and when Darth Vader comes at you blammo sand in the face! Choking and hacking commence, problem solved. Giving them time to get away.
+Master Oogway You just gave me the funniest image in my head of Obi wan doing that in a new hope!! 😂
POCKET SAND!
Pretty Alright he went back to kill his mother killers. and storm trooper.
Exactly! As Anakin Says Before The Super Secret Wedding To Padme:
“I don’t like sand, it’s course and rough and irritating, and it gets everywhere”
Anakins force ghost was young anakin because that’s how he remembered himself as anakin
Maybe his force ghost was young Anakin because that was the age he was last, truly, Anakin before being turned?
@Anakin Skywalker what's your theory?
@Anakin Skywalker FINALLY someone said it.
Anakin Skywalker your theory makes sense but shouldn’t Anakin still have his burn wounds? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Anakin Skywalker I always understood it as a force ghost cannot age. I assumed a Jedi stays the age they were when they learned how to be a force ghost. So if anakin learned to project himself beyond death around R.o.t.S, then he would look like that
Anakin last all his limbs, Luke lost his hand, and well Rey she um well you know uhhh...
Almost got a limb in her til kylo died?
Obi decided to hide on Tatooine because he knew Vader would never look there. There is too much to remind him of his past he desparately wanted to forget.
Luke and Obiwan went to Tattoine because vader (anakin) does not like sand! LOGIC!!
Close. Vader actually hates everything about anakin and sees him as a completely different person. So anything reminding him of anakin pisses him off so much. Especially the planet he was a slave on and watched his mother die on while he couldn't do anything
Plus, Vader did not know about his children until he felt Luke's presence.
So good
LOL
😂😂😂 great point👍
Is it just me or is every point made explained by the host why there isn’t a hole or the explanation is just common sense?
I think it's funny that he mentions in the beginning not to mention the books to fix his holes. But yet his holes have holes that are already filled by the logic of running the movie narrative.
Omg someone had to saw it! Some of his points are just flat out wrong too!
That works for every trilogy, but the Sequels are horrible and have insane plotholes.
@@BGOutOfService To be fair, this video was made when only the Force Awakens had come out.
Doesn’t change the fact that the prequels ruined the Star Wars franchise. The sequels didn’t do much to help it, but they’re definitely better overall.
7:57 If you would actually watch that scene, you would notice that she says only remembering seeing her in images. You are just making this up for the sake of making the list longer
Plot holes of the sequels next?
Can everyone spare 24 hours for the video?
Obi Wan didn’t know R2...
...from a certain point of view.
Nicolas Miari from my point of view, the jedi are evil
Nicolas Miari he couldn’t recognize R2 from the high ground
Nicolas Miari he said he never remembered OWNING a droid. He didnt say he didnt know r2. And you guys call yourself fans
Matthew McKnight he was making a joke dumb ass
It's only a joke...
from a certain point of view
Says technology went backward, literally built a death star
Twice
@@betterlatethannever4529 well, 1.5
@@Skypost4ever well the second one was more advanced than the first so it can count?
@@marcodestefano7119 an unfinished car with an advanced engine is still unfinished. 1.5
@@Skypost4ever uh, right
Most of these plot holes are do to the movies being 30 years apart. These “plot holes” are just Lucas not having details for the the prequels
Lucas could have had them sync up a little better but overall it was fine.
Mara Butler ya, I mean some stuff he could have done better.
They aren't even holes
Me to the first plothole: kenobi explains it in a new hope, he refers to the clone wars era "a more civilized age"
Yoda literally says that Luke is too old for training! also at that point they had no option but to train him whether he was old for actual jedi training or not so not really a plot hole.
He was too old because he was connected to his mother
I'm currently rewatching Avatar the Last Airbender, so that's fresh on my mind, but it's the exact same situation. In Avatar, Aang has less than a year to master all 4 elements (something that normally takes a lifetime), or else all will be lost. Similarly, Luke is able become a Jedi because he _has_ to, & even then, he's actually only able to beat Vader by using the dark side, & stands no chance against Palpatine, himself.
Yes Yoda does not beleive Luke is ready, but like prodigies in life that can achieve faster results than people that train for years, Luke is favoured i think.
@@SeraphimCramer Aang is the Avatar he has already mastered bending countless times in his past lifetimes
@@HereIsZane Also true, though he can't access the memories of his past lives most of the time, so he's basically starting from scratch in every life.
The last one where "3's a crowd" isn't a plot hole since in Return of the Jedi the emperor wanted Luke to "kill his father and take his place at his side"... its literally a line in the movie.
Yeah I thought the same thing. Wasn't the battle to see who was the worthy apprentice but then Vader kills his master instead.
But then why was vader complying when he showed no indication of wanting to kill the emperor but also wanted to recruit luke so that he didnt have to kill him? Rule of two means Vader knew either he or his son would have to die and he obviously wanted neither
@PattySpivotDoe
There's a new force in the galaxy that both Palpatine and Vader can sense. They understand that there's a great force rising in the Jedi and the question is what to do about it. There are options so I'll lay them out.
1) Both Vader and Palpatine team up to fight this force. There's a risk that one of them will die in the battle.
2) Palpatine could decide his own fate by having Vader defeat Luke or Luke defeat Vader (only by diving into the dark side power) so that he can have an apprentice either way and remove the problem.
3) Vader can entice Luke to his side and then together they can defeat Palpatine from the dark side of the force. Vader will then be the master and Luke will be the apprentice. That way, he ensures that both he and Luke survive.
The point is both Palpatine or Vader like to be control of situations. Palpatine more so as that's how his mind works. They want to be in control of every move and option 2 gives that control to Palpatine and option 3 gives that control to Vader. Option 1 is far too risky for both of them. If I were Palpatine, I'd have both Vader and Luke fight it out and then claim the inner as the apprentice.
If you're Vader, killing Palpatine before turning Luke to the Dark Side is incredibly risky. Instead of having two of you against this great force, you essentially handicap your side. Vader has no idea if Luke will even turn. Vader needs to wait it out until he knows that Luke is on his side and then they can turn on Palpatine.
There's so much politics and backstabbing going on that one can easily be confused but it does make sense for Vader to deal with the threat first.
Also in ESB Vader tells Luke that "together we will rule the galaxy as father and son", a clear indication in the movies of Vader's intentions with Luke. Not a plot hole, both Vader and Palpatine believe they are the stronger sith and want Luke as their apprentice. Palpatine as the master believes he can exploit Vader's status as the apprentice to entice Luke to where he wants him, and Vader plays along, waiting for his opportunity to flip the script and become the master himself.
@PattySpivotDoe Vader literally wanted his Son to join him and not palpatine. Maybe he was intent to get his son to join himself and not palpatine. (You know the whole Imperium strikes back-thing with "No, I am your father!".
The actual plot hole for me would be vader defending palpatine when luke actually tries to kill him in the return of the jedi. If i recall correctly he blocks the lightsaber that luke swings at the emperor. But maybe vader knew at that point that Palpatine was still too strong for both of them.
I mean, maybe Vader didn’t know about the rule of two
Vader planned to recruit Luke to the dark side and kill palpatine together, therefore the rule of two would still be in effect
The technology IS better in the original trilogy. That’s one of my favorite parts of Star Wars, the subtle ways they show the advancement of technology over 30 years. Compare the “black and white” holograms of the prequels to full color ones of the OT. Compare Anakin’s obviously mechanical prosthetic hand to Luke natural-looking one. Compare the fact that personal fighters need hyperspace rings in the prequels but have built-in hyperdrives in the OT.
Exactly, I dont know how people can argue this, so many examples of more advanced tech. The only difference in the ATAT is in design that we can see. Does higher centre of gravity (which seems like a bad idea) mean its less technologically advanced - how could we tell. Maybe it has a more advanced fuel cell. It sure is a lot bigger which in itself seems like an advancement.
In the prequels r2d2 has every super power imaginable. In the main trilogy can't do any of them
He clearly does, look at him after he gets zapped in RoTJ, he has loads of stuff there he later (earlier) uses in the prequels, I guess those devices were only useful for the stuff that happens in the Prequels.
Obi-Wan aging faster on tattooine would scientifically make sense as there are 2 suns in the tattooine system which would give of double the ammount of radiation which would make his skin look more aged.
Alec G is an actor. It's a movie people, older people play younger roles all the time. His actual age doesn't have to apply.
44 to 63 seems plausible
Mathias Edvardsen thank you
@@920utdoors9 yea but ep1 doesn't fit in
Stress is also a huge factor and remember Obi Wan was around 20 when he met Anakin. 14 or so years pass until the rise of the empire then 18 more years until Luke meets Obi Wan officially.
Ive seen older looking 40 year olds let alone 50+
A lot of these "plotholes" can either be easily debunked or are extremely insignificant that no one cares
Vader was never trying to kill Luke he was trying to turn him, Vader would never go back to tatoine because he hates it with a passion
I don’t see the prequels having a space station, being able to destroy a whole planet with one shot
Adam Bernal yeah but that is just one thing and also in attack of the clones dooku says that they are building a super weapon which means the death star is in progress so they actually could have had the deathstar in the prequels
In attack of the clones count doku gets the plans from the geonosis. Also in the revenge of the sith palpatine looks at them.
@@bobjim1286 sure but the empire is technically in peace mode. They dont need a huge military force since they are fighting a few rebells
@@diadokhoi5722 The Sith desire more and more power and control, they're never happy with what they got. The Death Star gives them absolute control through fear. It doesn't have much of a practical use, because by completely obliterating a planet, you loose all the resources from it. But as some sort of a statement and a reminder whose in charge, it's pretty good.
Also, in regards to the battle droids, they're shown to be efficient in numbers, but woefully dumb & easily destroyed.
Theory! Kenobi aged so fast because of all the the drugs and deathsticks he's been taking and he lost his memory about r2 and how Darth is Luke's father. There simple explanation for two plotholes, and maybe more
That does make sense. What the fuck else is there to do on a fucking desert planet?? Alchohol and death sticks, that's what.
(actually I'm sure Mos Eisly had some smuggled Romulan Ale and Synthohol readily available as well. THat shit will fuck you up for life!)
Hayden Carr lol
You don't want to sell me deathsticks. You want to go home and rethink your life.
Hayden Carr
Once you're on the death-sticks, that's all you can think about
obiwan never forgot about vader being lukes father he just didn't want to disapoint the boy plus would you rather hear your father turned evil and practiclly destroyed the peace of the galaxy if you were in lukes position? just random question is all
"Why is the prequel technology superior???"
Original trilogy: Literally has a space station the size of a moon that can completely destroy planets with ease
Plus, most Starships had their own hyperdrive unlike the ships in the Prequels. In AOTC, Obi-Wan needed a hyperdrive ring in order to travel from Coruscant to Kamino. In ROTJ, the Rebel fleet, which includes X-Wings and A-Wings could travel in lightspeed without any rings.
Thanks for ignoring all the other points he made. Adorable. Rabid Star Wars fans are the worst
@@DefenestrateYourself you expect fro every commenter to comment on every part of the video? That's a a bit unrealistic
your first plot hole solution solves your second one: look whats actually in the movies. Prequel jedi are much more able in both lightsaber combat and force mastery than luke was in the OT, showing they have had much better training. Compare any lightsaber duel from the PT to the OT and youll get what I mean
Yeah I like this explanation, plus he loses to Vader badly in his first fight
Obi-Wan hid on Tantooine because Vader would never go there. After all of the tragedies on the planet. The perfect hiding place.
Why did he want mustafar then, the place where he killed the love of his life and child
@@arghunqon3774 To show that he had no fear (even though he did).
Meewm33 no he did it because he wanted to meditate on his anger and hatred
Also anikan hates sand because it's course rough and it gets everywhere
@@arghunqon3774 If you already knew why did you ask? Kidding. You have a point and are probably right.
The ATTE has worse plated armor than the ATAT, all you need to do is rewatch the battles of Hoth and Geonosis. The ATTEs were easily destroyed with one powerful blast from a turret, but the ATAT was destroyed only when Luke used the tow cable. The tow cable was only used because the blasts from the turrets did no damage. Before you tell me to rewatch the intro, I ONLY USED THE MOVIES
Smhop20 yeah the armor is better, but the AT-AT is less mobile and less versatile, but he makes a point with the center of gravity. While not a step backwards, it wasn't exactly a step forward either. The designers used a blantly flawed design and didn't do anything to fix it. Also, the empire's military was made to police populations, not wage full scale war.
That's like saying that WW1 tanks id not have very good armour, so by WW2 they improved the armour significantly but also removed the steering wheel
That's pretty much what the empires engineers did lol
Well. but in the battle of hoth the rebels didn't have missiles or any kind of heavy weapons. Only blaster turrets. Does blaster shots do something to an AT-TE?
As you said, the empire didn’t plan for a war. So I believe they made it that tall so that it looked intimidating. I mean come on, if you see that thing and how huge it is, it might make you think twice about fighting. That’s my opinion.
The way I see it is that Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader are two different people entirely and after he yeets Palpatine over the edge he becomes Anakin Skywalker again and that's why his force ghost is Hayden Christensen
Now that you bring these up, Star Wars feels more like a comedy
Anakin's Ghost reverted back to the point where he "died" originally: When he became Darth Vader. That one should be pretty obvious. Kenobi and Yoda even said that he "ceased to be Anakin Skywalker and became Darth Vader". So, in his redemption, he went back to the point where he "fell" from the Light Side.
Leia remembered her mother: Breha Organa. That's the mother she knew. Luke was asking about their REAL mother, but Leia didn't know that. What you SHOULD have asked is: Why doesn't Leia remember her mother BETTER, because she died when Alderaan was destroyed, which was when Leia was a young adult (I'm assuming in her twenties), which means she should have more than just "feelings" about her. Keep in mind, YOU set the scene of "taking the movies in isolation", meaning explanations OUTSIDE the movies DO NOT COUNT.
The R2-D2 thing: You already explained it, before you complained about it. He never "owned" R2, and he was playing dumb for Luke to see where that was going to play out. There was no reason to let on he knew R2 at all. There was no indication he didn't "recognize" R2 at all, just that he never "owned" him. The details he gives afterward about the other stuff is once he knows the situation, he's trying to get Luke's help, so he explains stuff to Luke to do that. He still doesn't need to let on he knows R2 from the past though, because it's irrelevant at that point.
Sure, getting Luke to turn would break the Rule Of Two, however, Palpatine repeated shows he'll do ANYTHING to amass more power. If it means he has two Sith under him, fine. If one kills the other, fine. He doesn't care either way, because either scenario helps him. He either gets another Sith, or he eliminates a powerful enemy. Win/Win for him. He doesn't give a crap about the "Rules". The movies even show that, because he's training Grievous while he's training Maul and Dooku. Even though Grievous isn't technically a Sith, his presence and training automatically breaks the "Rule".
Except when Vader killed the emperor he redeemed himself and reverted back to good. At that point he was once again a Jedi and no longer a Sith Lord. It’s shows that Lucas does not understand what he created
Subscribe to me for no reason You can’t redeem yourself and become a Jedi again just by saving your son's life, that’s not how it works
Ellithejoker that's exactly how it works, because George Lucas said so.
Subscribe to me for no reason he was redeemed. But Anakin’s final form was in revenge of the sith. Anakin was only burnt and destroyed for a few minutes, before his literal death.
Subscribe to me for no reason no obi wans ghost spoke to anakin in his last moments and anakin let go of all the dark side and then he became the ghost
Obi-Wan was 38 at the end of Episode 3. That makes him 57 in A New Hope.
Still not the age of Alec Guiness and neither the age Obi Wan is portrayed in Stra Wars 77´, he was at least 70
He was 25 in episode 1.
lucky dominguez So you're saying all 57 year olds look the same? All 70 year olds look the same? I can say that Obi Wan looks like he could be 57 in that movie, it doesn't matter what Guiness's age was.
... Good, Still 38 at episode 3
That´s a lame excuse, biologically you´re right as not everyone looks the same at determinated ages BUT the direction and movie production in 77´try to make him look old, that´s called charachterization, the way you portray you´re charachter in a movie (or other literature forms), so what Lucas did at the end was pooped over the age he try to portray Obi in the first movie, obviously that shouldn´t be a concern for not enjoy Ewan McGregor work on the prequels, he was good.
The obi Wan Kenobi hiding in plain sight thing was a plothole created by a new hope itself. Cuz we see he knows all these things, in a new hope. And later on in the trilogy, we find out that he was hiding Luke. We find out that him and the other Jedi were hiding. We find this out in the OT. This plot hole wasn’t created by the prequels, it was created by the OT itself.
Obi Wan was hiding with Luke and didn’t change his name very well (I think he credibly hid his being a former Jedi from everyone except Lars bc he tried to convince him to let him take Luke). But that doesn’t mean in the prequels they had to place ANAKIN on the same planet in what appears to be a similar location. I think it works fine still bc Anakin hates sand so he’d never go back lol. But seriously he hated tattooine.
The reason why they decide to hide on tattooine was because Anakin has bad memories of that planet, and wouldn’t go there himself to visit considering you know what happens
Obi-Wan's first words to R2 were
"Hello there, come here my little friend"
While flying to Alderaan, Obi-Wan whispers to R2 something like "it's nice to fly with you again, old friend".
My little friend obviously doesn't mean he actually "knew" him. Let's also not mention that R2 was never given a memory wipe meaning "he" should remember Obi Wan. Also like he said it doesn't count if it was explained in a book later on.
@@jackthegreek6092 except that's what it means. He knew R2 tor alot of his life.
@Brandon Kelly naive to what? Anakin owned R2 not Obi.
@Brandon Kelly he still said it.
@Brandon Kelly why would he have to? Up until this moment he didnt know his father was a pilot or a jedi.
Luke's only father figure was his uncle and his uncle told him lies about his dad.
Be weird to tell him right away this droid belonged to Vader before he changed...