Genius Solution US Air Force Found to Transport Tons of Dangerous Jet Fuel
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- Опубліковано 24 чер 2024
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This man sure knows how to drag out a video. Speak 1 sentence and have a year pause for music and military arsenal scenery😂
You can speed videos up. This guy talks like an auctioneer aside of some folks on YT.
What. Are. You. Talking. About?
It's a video. Some people like to watch the moving pictures.
It’s like turning a Wikipedia article you can read in 2 minutes into a 15+ minute video 😂
I agree, but I appreciate the aviation porn.
I just want to wave my hat at all the POL guys who were there to support us. It”s a specialized skill that most folks don”t appreciate. Their safety record is pretty unbelievable. As a retired tanker pilot, our POL guys were always dependable and just real professionals. It might have changed, but 95% were men. Never complained, worked their butts off and helped us get our mission done. Kudos.
Recall seeing these used in the mid 1960s. Makes more sense than metal containers.
These things have been around 45 years. They can also be fitted with an axle for transport behind any vehicle. I've seen them dropped from a C130 as well as other craft.
Brave and dedicated men and women. I salute you all, past, present, and future!
Man the weight those choppers can lift is insane
Bet they couldn’t lift my ex-wife.
Rosie O Donald road in one
UK forces have been using bladders for years (we called the big round ones bollocks, for obvious reasons). I only ever used them as underslung loads as I was in the navy. We certainly had them in the Falklands in '82.
The UK got their fuel during the Falklands war from the US, 12.5 million gallons.
@@rayjames6096 Not surprised Ray, nearest source to us. I only ever saw it coming from RFAs (Royal Fleet Auxiliaries) hanging under cab's
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U.K. fuel comes from the North Sea and refined in Grangemouth. Scotland is the only country to strike oil and get poorer. Thanks to our so called neighbours and allies
@@garystroud6153 Reagan refused to help the UK in that war .
In the 90s I did trials on airdropping (parachute) of single Air Portable Fuel Containers (APFC) bollocks on to land and into the sea in support of the UK Special Forces. We also had an airdroppable Forward Air Refuelling Point (FARP) consisting of two air drop platforms carrying two APFC each, a pump and all the hoses. I wanted to change the P for point to T for Tankage if only because I wanted to say "I've been dropping FARTs today"
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Alastair, I used to help build and set up these fuel tank farms back in the early to mid 1970s for the AMF providing fuel rations and supplies to land sea and air. Even refuelling multiple nations hovercrafts, helicopters, boats, vehicles, snowcats, etc. Yes, we even use naphtha in the Arctic Circle 🔵.
Interesting vid....... We've been using those huge bladders for all kinds of fuel as well as for transporting water at least since the 60s....
Yes, they definitely did enjoy it. Thank you for the effort that you put into these videos. Good work.
Those 500 gal tanks “blivets” (that were slung) can also be towed behind trucks at a slow speed... they are similar to a very fat tire full of fuel...
We (the Australian army) have been doing this for at least 40 years. In fact most countries do very similar operations. In fact I actually setup a FARP with AVGAS for Caribou aircraft. And yeas bladders are heavy!
Cheers
US Air Force used them in Vietnam, this is not new!
In 1975 I was station in Naples Italy. We where going to fly a C2A from there to Bethpage NY, too far to go without refueling. So in the back we installed 3 500 gal tanks. I was glad I got bumbed off the fly 16 or so hours in a C2 is a little long for my blood. Great bird no way the V22 can replace it.
I have wondered why we do not use certain engineered textiles/rubbers/plastics/bladders. There have been numerous tested in space, even as pressure chambers. You could store LNG in these kinds of tanks underwater, if it was at sufficient depth. Also, there has been some work on using quickly deployable gas pipes that are for all intents and purposes are bladder based.
Flexible items tend to have limited lifespans
LNG is under pressure.... You want to make LNG bombs?
They do in airplanes to transport
@@janeblogs324 First, most LNG is stored and transported at ambient pressure. Conventional LNG ships transport gas with no applied pressure at -160°C. Second, I did also say, at sufficient depth" to account for storage that would need to be under pressure.
That is a really good idea that should be tested at least. This might be a much cheaper and safer storage system for offshore oil fields. Instead of flaring off natural gas, or requiring old tankers to be stationed, anchored at the surface, subject to storms etc.
Oil fields usually require at least one old tanker that accumulates oil and gas until the next transport tanker arrives. A series of bladders could easily replace these decrepit ships. And if the depth was sufficient even keep LNG liquid in insulated bladders at food freezer temperatures rather than the minus 160 degrees required on the surface. Which is very expensive to do in some searing tropical locations. Heat pumps could be used for this type of cooling. Larger versions of the very efficient heat pump on the Tesla cars could transfer excess heat into the ocean water very efficiently.
This should cut the cost of storage for LNG in half. And make it feasible for almost every oil field.
Instead of flaring these sites could easily make up the global shortage of LNG.
Man another great and informative video, I’m a sheet metal artisan on the V-22 and H-53 and I never get tired of watching them in action !
greatest show keep it up … great lesson to learnt tnx u
As a former SSgt in the USAF (SAC), I really enjoy these informative videos. My job was sort of related to the transfer of fuel. (It was called JP-4 at the time)
I was a Flight Simulator Tech on the KC-135 simulator. My job was to ensure the crews received maximum benefit from their training missions by keeping the simulator operating at 100% functionality.
I've been up on a 135. Really awesome tanker! We flew a couple different military simulators when I was in CAP years ago. Was a great experience! I even got stick time on a 130. We were being airlifted to a cadet activity. I've always been a huge fan of military aviation and I've been up in numerous military, commercial and civilian aircraft.
BTW, thanks for your service!
JP-4 was a different animal. The current JP-8 is user friendly, has a higher flashpoint and doesn’t have near the static generation JP-4 did. That stuff you could actually hear the static!
I came in around the time SAC was changing and the C141’s were being phased out. I think we had it pretty good back then. Today’s mil environment is very different.
Thanks for your svc!
Might be a new idea or concept to you and allowed posting of a video but collapsible fuel ‘bags’ have been in use nearly as long as collapsible water bags.
The wildland fire service has been using these Rollagon tires as jet fuel bladders for decades. We used them in very remote areas in Alaska on wildland fires to supply our helicopter fleet. Sometimes a parachute wouldn’t open and the bladder would bust open on impact. We called it a rolla-bomb. Spectacular when it hit the fire and exploded.
@Fredric Bethune ... Hi Fred, Marty here. ... BLM's Argosy dropped Rollagons of jet fuel on the Selawik NWR fire near the Waring Mts in 1988. More than 1,000,000 pounds of paracargo were dropped onto that drop zone. ... I trained a Nenana Crew Boss on that fire. Then I was reassigned to the Supply Unit. Martin Miracle sent me to Kiana to process the backhaul to Fairbanks. We wrestled those flattened, empty rollagons into the Argosy on the airstrip there. ... If I remember correctly, we were on the same flight from Kiana on a Caravan to Ruby. I went on to Central and then Wainwright from Ruby in that Caravan. ... Next was Yellowstone NP and rotor wing management for me Mike Bobo, and Bob Jonathon at the Huck and Mink Helibases. ... What a summer Fred. ... Nice chatting with you. Take good care, my friend.
That is fascinating ! Thank you !
Blivets have been around for decades, and are tough. There is a Y-shaped metal yoke that can attached on the sides and it has a tow opening at the end. Then they can be pulled into place; in the "old days" we used Jeeps and even a little monster called a Mule with 2-cylinder gasoline engine. I worked for some years with the company that put together the Inland Petroleum Distribution System (IPDS). The large 5,000K barrel (210,000 GL) bulk fabric tanks were issued 18-each to a Tactical Petroleum Terminal (TPT) along with all the '600 GPM pumps, hoselines, and issuing points. The other two elements were the Pump Stations with 800 GPM pumps connecting to 20-foot long 6" diameter aluminum pipe segments with a groove coupling similar to Victaulic but stronger. During the first Gulf War 120 miles of pipeline was laid connected to the Saudi terminal at Ras Tanura for supply, while multiple TPT's were installed and filled with trucks, especially out where the "left hook" route turned into Iraq. It could also be connected to the Offshore Petroleum Distribution System (OPDS) with an anchor leg and undersea hoseline, so tankers could pump product ashore to a Beach Termination Unit connecting to the IPDS to then move it inland via the pipeline and pump stations. Not a new concept; installed pipeline were used in WWII (steel) but now just has newer, better, faster-installed materials.
The coolest thing for me is seeing the Norwegian soldiers carrying MP7s.
Congratulations! Very interesting explanation as well as a very detailed video . Thanks.
It gives me a little insight into my son's job as a POL in the Air Force. So proud of him.
My son is in POL at Langley AFB. So proud of him.
I never thought a Blivet was a real thing! Learned something.
Precission machining results are awesome .
Awesome!👌
POL proud!
During my many flights in Viet Nam we normally carried fuel in flat rubberized bladder containers which were frequently loaded on aluminum pallets. The flat containers were easier to trasport in C-130 Aircraft and were safer and also easier to unload in the field.
Thanks for your service.Hope your doing good...
I made those towable drums during the Gulf war at Amfuel. QC was pressure testing one with compressed air and forgot. Talk about a bang though the factory. Amfuel was a good place to work but Zodiac Aerospace is a horrible company and they owned us at the time. I was proud to make those for our forces. We also made fuel bladders c130, f18,a10, t38, f5 , kc135 and a ton of Bell helios. Any questions about how they are made? It is a cool process, some use plaster forms, other use bolt together forms.
We also made the MH47 bladders. Those long green tubes on the side are the fuel tanks with a rubber bladder inside. And a Very large man can sit inside of them.
I worked for a company that used small ones to refuel mountain top communication site generators annually. They weren’t very big and would sling them under a 407. They had 4 so there was always a full one to grab at the low site and and empty one on the mountain top. The sites were spread out about every 30-40 miles for 700 miles.
@@Chris_at_Home Yep we made two sizes a 550 gallon and a smaller one. Can't remember the size on it. The Larger one was made using a metal external form and an internal smaller form. The external metal one was so massive we turned one into a Bar-B-Que pit for the Magnolia Blossom Festival Steak cook out. The unit need 25 bags of coal to just get hot.
those tanks can be used for air burst napalm bombs. dropped from a plane then the delay fuse goes off at 200 feet above a target and everything lights up below.
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Wow. . .really great super amazing. . .
Time for another binge watch session. I call it getting flucted up.
1st Bulk Fuel Co. 9th ESB, Camp Hanson, Okinawa, Japan 1986-7…
465th ARS, 507th ARW, Tinker AFB.
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The FARP ( FORWARD AIR REFUELING POST) has been around a long time. Mostly used for helicopters to get fuel. That's so they can stay close to where they're working.
Thanks to all working Americans
Imagine firing a javelin at those 🔥
_Genius_ is a noun.
The adjective is _ingenious._
I wouldn't mention it, but you brought up the concept of high intelligence.
I'm old enough to remember when we'd just pull an LST up to the beach and start pumping fuel into bladders.
Unfortunately places like Afghanistan were notably short on beaches.
@@allangibson8494 Point is, it's not a revolutionary discovery. It's an evolution.
@@abefroman4953 In WW2 the British ran a pipeline from England into France ten days after D-Day…
Fuel has always been a problem for mechanised armies since the 1920’s.
Fuel on a front line base in Afghanistan cost $70/gallon delivered - which is why the US Army is investigating solar power for frontline forces (more watts per ton delivered).
Add a big ignition source and you've got an awesome Heli dropped IED. " Boom "
It's almost funny that they can think about stopping pollution by cars.
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My family has been doing this for at least 50 years
We used them in the Falklands and used to sling them in pairs under a Chinook. They were therefore colloquially known as 'Ballocks'
Perfect example of “If it ain’t broke don’t fix it”. This is exactly how it’s been done for at least 40 years.
This was really interesting.
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These have been used for years in the wildland fire game to fuel helicopters in remote areas, old technology
9k gallons of fuel in the bladder tanks can full up, 3 F18s (internal fuel)
You are confusing gallons to lbs.
@@NoNo-ru2xl nope. Do the math. 1 gallon of fighter jet fuel at pressure is, 6.4 pounds. Go look up how Many pounds of fuel the F18s carry internally, than come back here lol
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Looks like a fire cracker could turn it into an inferno.
Top off every evening fuel by First Sargent's buffalo or fuel trucks at night while rearming your vehicle along with checking your vehicle for damage oil levels so when the Doo Doo hits the fan at least you will have the ability to attack to the rear
We were doing this in the Air Force when I was in back in the mid 60's....this ain't new.
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we had fuel bladers for years eaven in pearl harbor
Good idea to inform all non western nations how to run an efficient operation.
“You know Darin, if you had told me 25 years ago that someday, I'd be standing here about to solve the world's energy problems, I would have said you're crazy. Now let's push this giant ball of oil out the window!”
At 01:03, "tons of INflammable" fuel? Doesn't fuel burn inside the engines?
Inflammable and flammable mean the same, it's a historical thing. Non-flammable is the opposite.
Respect and long live always respect
Nothing new here. I flew Air Force C-130's in Viet Nam and delivered lots of rubber roll off fuel bladders for the Army helo's at any remote fire base with a short runway. Also flew rubber bladders of fuel to fixed Army bases like Kotum. Had two bladders and two gas fuel pumps in the cargo bay and two fuel specialists to quickly offload in about 15 minutes. We flew mostly at night due to incoming mortars while we were offloading. Kotum had an Army GCA that guided us in totally blacked out until just short of touchdown. Helping out with suppression fire were AF Spectre gunships. Made for an interesting tactical approach and departure.
thanks
That’s how important logistics are, fuel, food, water and finally ammunition and weapons.
ca fait des dizaines d'annés que cela existe en france avec le service des essences des armées..
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Those big balls we make our version in the UK at GKN Aero space in Portsmouth They drop test them from a great height and everyone stands behind a blast wall in case it bursts
Was able my air charter service uses these to refuel outfitter camps. Looks weird in the back of a twin otter.
According to Wikipedia: Fuel bladders are used in various fields, such as agribusiness, public works, humanitarian, military and industrial areas... Ultra-tough "crash-worthy" fuel bladders, reinforced with such fibers as Kevlar, are popular in the motorsports industry and are considered a critical safety component, mandated by racing's top series such as Formula 1 and NASCAR.
I was in the Air Force back in the mid sixties and we had fuel bladders even back then, but not as large. I was also a ground Crew Chief on KC-135, but we never refueld any of our aircraft while they had the engines running, because there was not the need. Today they may be short of aircraft to do that job and the reason they have to resort to a "Hot Refueling", to get them back into the air ASAP.
Also a very efficient way of dispersing aerosoles into the atmosphere.
Oh I bet the loadmaster hates those.
They certainly got some serious equipment the Yanks, makes the UK look like a toy club.
what happens whit the old bladder? where it go back to usa?
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Đó là một công việc khó khăn, nhưng nó là một phần của hậu cần... Nếu bộ phận này không có sẵn, thì những người lính bộ binh sẽ không thể có được những thứ cần thiết cho xe của họ. Tôi đoán có lý, bạn đang ở đâu tại Việt Nam? Tôi hiện đang ở Vùng Tàu…nice weather you know….👍🏻
NOT NEW - We shipped fuel bladders to front line bases during Vietnam. No pumps necessary if you start driving a tank onto it. They may have changed the shape but they didn't invent anything.
I suppose the military put this on here, that’s really smart. Shows the enemy what to look for.
01:02 'The Army transports tons of imflammable fuel'? Then why is it dangerous if it cannot catch fire? If it was FLAMMABLE, then that would be dangerous.
Inflammable and flammable mean the same, it's a historical thing. Non-flammable is the opposite.
@@auldteuchter9012 Actually, no. Inflammable means to catch into flames WITHOUT an ignition source, whilst flammable is the opposite, hence It's still incorrect as Jet Fuel is not Inflammable. It's flammable. 03:55
@@GuildOfTheBlackCrow This is an incorrect definition of inflammable which has cropped up recently in forums and the like.
Merriem....
The Latin words inflammare (“to cause to catch fire”) and flammare (“to catch fire”) came into English at different times to become the synonyms inflammable and flammable. Although it seems logical that inflammable might mean “not flammable,” the word actually means the opposite, because the in- prefix of inflammable comes from the Latin word meaning “in” or “into.” Using nonflammable is one way to ensure clarity.
Other dictionaries say similar, with no mention of spontaneous ignition. Working in industry (>50 years) this was always the usage. Engineers generally preferred flammable to avoid confusion for less experienced English users.
These machines are like people, they have to eat to be able to move.
Very interesting
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WW2 Bouncing Bomb design right there
Cosmo Cramer came up with that in Seinfeld
Esto es más viejo, cuando trabaje en Antártida en el año1997 el combustible se aprovisionaba en esos rolling de goma.
Yeh… The RAF was doing this in the 1970’s nothing new … also using underslung ‘barrels’ or for more longer term a pillow tank.
The system is useful for dispersal to a wood off airfield or extent the range of operations behind enemy lines.
Never mind the danger of a fire, or enemy attack. Engine running refueling is just plaine stupid, the ground crew is subject to dangerous conditions, and hearing damage.
In the Royal Air Force we frequently did PERFs (Port Engine Running Fuelling) on helicopters.
The trick is to have well trained groundcrew and for them to wear excellent ear defenders.
@@bobdylan7120I worked for a communications company that refueled mountain top communications sites with bladders by sling and they hot refueled all the time. They would haul a years worth of fuel up this way. They did about 20 sites spread out of 700 miles.
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I am surprised over the technology of US but mean time I have question regarding petrol. What if the petroleum finish underneath the earth. How yours all gigantic air vehicle will work then????
Hey guess what buddy, we in the RAF we’re doing that with our Harriers back in the 70s
I’m glad they didn’t take notes from the navy. The Navy only knows how to transport yummy jet fuel into the towns water supply
Now the bulk storage on Airbase is much great the primary storage tank on a small air base run around 2.5 million barrels of fuel, approximately 150 million gallons, two smaller tanks holding approximately one million barrels of fuel so the two small tanks hold approximately 55 million each !!!
The US military has been using these bladders for MANY years. I served Sept-78 to Sept. 81 and they already had been in use for years....
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The US military has an extensive network of logistics in place to make forward deployment of fuel possible. If there's a point on the globe, the USA has figured out a way to get logistics support to it.
Imagine shooting one with a flaming arrow
Genius is when you think about the eco system.
Who would have thought they use that much ?
Pobre la tripulación del elicoptero si un misil alcanza esa bombona de combustible.