Black Panther: Wakanda Forever - How It Should Have Ended
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- How Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Should Have Ended. What Marvel HISHE should we do next?
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what really should have happened here was as soon as Namor tells his GF he's still planning to conquer the world Killmonger's ghost shoulda popped in being all I TOLD YOU SO. WHEN WAS I EVER WRONG? YOU CHOKE ONE MEAN OLD LADY AND EVERYONE TREATS YOU LIKE A BAD GUY, DAMMIT I SHOULD HAVE BEEN A DC HERO
We all know why Batman really knows why she isn't the Black Panther.
@@Teamo86 really? Why is that?
Wow that how it should have ended was dark. Also yes mini black Panter! Son of black Panter just like his father!
@@loganshaw4527 yeah, but I honestly think this is a Chadwick Boseman tribute in the video
Hishe gives Wong the Sorcerer Supreme respect he deserves. The MCU should take note.
Yes, with bonus of Madisynn
@@jelita_ What if they end up making Madisynn Sin? Red Skull's Daughter. Ultimate swerve lol
@@Zarreth lol, yes, that actually is a good twist
Yeah Sorcerer supreme 🔥🔥
@@Zarreth If they don’t, I’ll riot
The ending where Namor straight up kills Shuri when he sees how few Wakandans are left works so well with the themes of the movie.
i was asking myself the same thing.. there were like 10 wakandans left ... he would have just ordered to kill them all and hunt injured shuri, namor was also healing at that point
It doesn't work since Namor only wanted to protect Talokan. His meeting with Shuri in Talokan was all about protecting Talokan. He wanted Wakanda as allies, not enemies.
And Namor didn’t even go to Villain Pub
@@Pl4sm4Ro4ch There was about 30 left including Shuri.
Well he's basically a good guy, just with bad beginnings I suppose
Shuri forgetting about Ultron was genuinely so weird… she even worked with Vision
She even advised how to remove the mind stone out of vision 😂 weird
I think the avengers never mentioned Ultron to T'Challa or Cherri.
working on vision doesn't mean she learned about ultron
@@kagenoo1084 Vision is Ultron's final body hi-jacked by Jarvis + Ultron was working with Klaw, Wakandan public enemy no. 1. Even if she doesn't know the details, I'm sure other Wakandans would.
Plus they have internet. If she knows about the "What are those" meme, she knows about the almost cataclysmic Avengers level event Ultron caused in Sokovia (an event that directly led to her father's death by Zemo)
@@justinnyugen7015 vision originally being a body for Ultron likely wouldn't have come up since it has nothing to do with why they died her help. As for everything that Ultron did, it's unclear how much of that event is public knowledge. Throughout the movie the only people who knew Ultron was a robot we're the people involved in the movie, the avengers, the twins, ECT. We don't know how much shield let the world know about to let that Information get to wakanda.
Wong deserves to be in every Marvel movie for this very reason.
The movies will be super short but yes, respect for Wong
@Man of Tomorrow agree
@@Giorgos906What If? but Wong is using his brain cells
Ironheart: “Glad we got outta there in time”
Ramonda: “Yes, for sure. One of us might have died”
Quicksilver throwback! Well done!
@@DukeDarkshadow and LOTR before that.
@@DukeDarkshadow It’s a semi-running gag on this show.
Carr Bender "Or two of us"
One thousandth like! Woo!
Shuri: AI isn’t like what’s in the movies Mother
Ultron: you sure about that
Ultron's right. He isn't taking anyone's job. He's ending the world.
@@tusharroymukherjee3370 yeah 😃
@@tusharroymukherjee3370 So he's taking EVERYONE'S jobs, then...
@@jonathancampbell5231 Oh, no, he’s freeing everyone from the responsibility of jobs.
By taking their lives.
My exact thought did they forget about ultron!????
I love how you pointed out the biggest issue with the movie; the villain was going to fail even if the heroes did nothing due to the other heroes in the universe.
To be fair, most of the existing heroes at this point would have a lot of trouble against Namor. Hulk might be able to fight him one on one, with Strange and Wong as the only people who'd stand a chance against the whole army.
@@maninthetrenchcoat5603Thor. War Machine. Scarlet Witch. The Guardians.
@@DogseatDogs Thor and the Guardians were off world. Wanda was already dead. And War Machine was a Skrull.
@@maninthetrenchcoat5603 The last point was hated by everyone. Also, they could call them back. And Captain Marvel. And SHIELD.
@DogseatDogs Captain Marvel was also indisposed, and Feige would rather eat his own hat than acknowledge that Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. happened for them to still exist to handle this. Also, what S.H.I.E.L.D. even do if they were around?
Getting voice actors that are actually speaking Mayan? Awesome. 👍🏻
Thanks we´re glad taht you like how we did ´t ;)
Yet they didn't make namor speak Mayan when he ordered to kill the wakandans.
Wait, that was legit???
@@danielawesome36 Check the end credits at 4:01. There are two voice actors credited as speaking in "Yucatec Maya".
@@ComoDeberiaHaberTerminado me gusta tu canal!!!!
I love that Namor's winged feet are making a little rapid clapping noise. That's a hilarious touch.
Namor’s animated model looks phenomenal.
Lol that's my favorite part
💀💀
"Work smarter, not harder." 😆
Also the Ultron thing was super obvious and I can't believe they had Shuri say that unironically
Looking back you would think they would've made an Ultron joke since they made a joke about the infinity gauntlet in Thor 4.
I mean, would Wakanda have really known or cared about Ultron?
@@Cyyberslam8 They definitely knew, because he built his body out of stolen Vibranium he got from Klaue.
Also, I don't care how cut off you are from the rest of the world, it's impossible to miss a news story about a city flying into and then falling out of the sky.
People keep saying he was created with the mind stone..so either people forget easily or the film that has people speaking a forgotten language didn’t do that small research.
I think people forget easily personally…
That was The same thing Eggman Said to Knuckles!
On the subject of the scene where Namor kills Ramonda with the water-bombs, I'm still shocked that the Wakandan royal palace 1) just has regular glass windows instead of some super durable transparent vibranium windows or something, or 2) doesn't have those bunker blast type shields that come out and wrap around the building. Sure, I get that they don't expect Wakanda to be invaded on a regular basis, but that's where the royal family and council have all their meetings, it's an important room. They should've known better.
Transparent vibranium? Our disbelief can only be suspended so much. How can this metal just be magic ‘do whatever’ material?
That glass barely got scratched by a spear of pure vibranium, which was later shown to be tearing through Shuri's ship
@burner-pp7bs the 1st Black Panther movie had a Vibranium car with windows that fully deflected bullets. They have the technology already
Now that you mention it, why didn't the Queen at least have 1 or 2 Dora Milaje with her at all times especially in that scene? So many times she's travelling around alone didn't make sense to me.
Namor has super strength and a vibranium spear and didn't break it in one swing. I don't think it's regular glass.
You guys are always a delight. Though seriously, the "AI isn't like the movies" line underscores my suspicion that the modern writers haven't actually watched the earlier phases of the MCU.
Wong's mirror dimensions always come in handy. I am bummed he doesn't use it more often; all marvel movies will be 2 minutes long.
Well it wouldn't work on Thanos when he has the space stone and it doesn't work on other magic users. Wong actually died in doctor strange but the time stone brought him back.
@@destroyerblackdragon kang made sure of that
@@RicegumNeverBrokeAgain I haven't seen the new antman movie yet I'm waiting for it to appear on Disney plus.
We have seen Spider-Man own mirror dimension, so I assume that it just works on folk who are bad at geometry.
@@gentblue Spider-man had abilities that made it possible for him to take advantage of the geometry.
"I will stay here and stare menacingly."
Damn that part pissed me off, it was so unnecessary to kill the queen. 😢
Well its not like she was the actual RULER of Wakanda, she didnt beat anyone in mortal combat.
@@MichaelNNY YOUR SOUL IS MIIIINE
@@MichaelNNY *FINISH HIM*
It was necessary to make Shuri focus on revenge.
It was necessary becausee Angela Basset is a great actoress andf should not be wasted on Marvel's blazing dumpster fire.
The part with Little T’Challa at 3:20 was honestly adorable 😊
Glad they put in that Ultron reference, I said that in the theater. That part bothered me so much, especially since the events that took place in Sokovia were known worldwide, there's literally an accord named after the events, tons of vibranium was used during it, there was no possible way Shuri should've said that
@Sadia Bashar Exactly! Thank you, even more reason that line should've been left out
Why was Namor’s first tactical decision “kill the college student?” There were at least a dozen ways to legally intimidate Riri before resorting to murder.
Why would Namor care or know about whats considered legal or ethical to most of the world. He believes that strength and fear are the ways to control people and everyone except his people are lesser creatures.
Not to mention I doubt the government didn’t make a way to just make another machine so killing Riri is just irrelevant
Because that is exactly what Namor would do irrespective of the universe he belongs to.
Also, Namor knows that Riri cannot refuse the U.S. Government and he cannot just trust Riri with the secret of Talokan's location. Shuri was a different case. Why the U.S. Government relies on Riri Williams? ("I am not Tony Stark" reason -> Remember how only Tony was able to make a small Arc Reactor, no one else).
Coz namor is literally has an ooga booga brain , coz his kind is from dark ages or before
1:30 Wow, you guys did a great job re-creating/riffing Namor's Theme for this video, it sounded so much like the original! 👏💸
@Don't Read My Profile Picture ok
@@DontReadMyProfilePicture.4 alright man cool
@Don't Read My Profile Picture ok
@Don't Read My Profile Picture cool
@@dragon9slayer250 scam
1:52 Riri is SMART
3:47 HA 😂 that's actually a really good point
When she mentioned New York I just know what’s gonna happen next 😂
lol yea
Who didn’t
I thought the Avengers were about to battle him 🤣
@@bluebaron9392 To be honest, The Avengers are kinda short staff. Tony dead, Captain America is retired, Spider Man is still hated, a few of them are not even on Earth, and others don't even have their powers anymore.
Do the thing!!
The amount of grass in New York joke was amazing
Dude forgot about the parks
Always has to be New York.
@@TheBrandiElizabeth nobody forgot about the parks, Central Park is a big park, but it still has fewer blades of grass than wakanda. An entire country.
@@burner-pp7bs but he wasn't comparing it to wakanda. He was comparing it to his number of soldiers.
“That’s for cutting off my feathers” best line ever
That Avatar 2 joke was subtle perfection.
0:48. After watching both Wakanda Forever & Avatar 2 I was hoping when HISHE made videos for them they'd make a joke about them both being blue water tribes & HISHE did not disappoint on that.
"Why are you blue, bro?"
Wait until Deadpool meet Talokan in Kang Dynasty! 😂😂😂😂
@@sagemaster1357 Talokans: "We ingested Vibranium while we were sick with smallpox"
the Music right after that was banger
Oh my gosh!! Same!!!!
2:54 Pretty sure Thor could have toast every single Namor troop with his lightning
fr
Oh no. That'd be possible in Endgame. Not after that.
Old Thor sure but he's as tough as the hulk now
Old thor would've beat namor
@@tamkin007
Why did you have to remind the world of the soyhulk, the hulk nobody wanted or desreved.
0:47 I asked the exact same question about how the sea people knew where to find them.
Also, kudos for adding Madisyn to the Wong cameo!
We all know Madisyn is getting the BANANAFEVER treatment from Wong
"why are you blue, bro?" killed me😂😂
Namora and attuma didn't see that coming.
Imagine if Namor surfaced offered the same deal to Killmonger that he did with Shuri? 🌎 🔥
100%
Killmonger: Yo homie!
Nah, Killmonger wouldn't have taken the implied threat with any kind of grace and probably try to kill Namor. Actually if Killmonger were still in charge of Wakanda he'd still be hip deep in his plan to overthrow the worlds governments meaning the plot of this movie would probably not even be happening.
That would be a great “What if?” episode
They'd probably end up in an incredibly uneasy enemy of my enemy is my friend situation. Namor would have a hard time trusting such an ruler with such a "Americanized" conquering style and Killmonger would not be at ease with such a powerful enemy he can't easily beat
I find it funny how they treated the ending like their armies were evenly matched when Namor's army was clearly winning XD
Honestly, if Namor had played it even a little smarter, the movie would have been called “Wakanda: Gone Forever”
@@Ledecral they had to make Namor too honorable for his own good for the movie to work. He was pretty much destroying Wakanda the first time he invaded. He could have just went all the way if he did not choose to give them a chance to join them.
After basically destroying their city. Wow, are you sure Namor is definitely not a villain, just an anti-villain?
I feel like too many people are discounting Shuri. Wouldn't she make up the difference? And she couldn't have been killed like that at the end of the battle.
@@Twigpi Oh, so Shuri is fine with all her friends getting killed because, "She would make up the difference?"
@@justinguyos5476 What do you mean?
I like that they respected Chadwick Bosman enough to keep him out of this picture
No! i will stay here and stare menacingly @1:44 🤣😆😆😆😆 nailed it!...
We will always remember Chadwick Boseman (1976-2020)
He always the perfect actor for Black Panther . It’s unfortunate that he had colon cancer .
@@aryelrosa4829 you’re probably right
And i be he would be proud of Letitia (Shuri)
Respect for getting Yucatec Maya voice actors! That was a nice touch.
We don´t actually speak Yucatec Maya, but we were coached by an Historian and translator that speak the language and he told us how to say the lines, but we´re glad that you liked it ;)
True Mayans are not mixed race, meaning not lightskinned.
I felt exhausted from all the drama after watching this movie. Thanks HISHE for bringing the laughs and light relief. P.S. totally agree with the ship scenario ending - there were like a handful of Wakandans left! Nice catch 👍
Love this - captured Shuri and Namor perfectly 😂
Kinda expected an Avengers army in New York, but yeah, Wong definitely works.
"Curse my tiny speedo!"
HISHE. The channel that never stops being funny.
@Don't Read My Profile Picture okay
said no one ever
Are namor wings ever gonna grow back?
Kinda stopped being funny for a while now
@@pursuing222 well in my opinion they are still funny.
Haha! Madisynn! Always a delight to see her! Great video as always, guys!
Namor's wing slapping sound is funny
The ultron part kill me lmao
Imagine if Aquaman appears in it fighting Namor.
They missed this chance!
I'm expecting that in the Aquaman 2 HISHE, since Namor hadn't appeared much in media before this movie (wanting to say he was in the 90's Fantastic Four cartoon, but not much else).
Timestamps:
0:12 Start
0:16 Just Leave
0:59 Life Support
1:27 Save the Queen
2:15 Wong OP (OP = Overpowered)
3:05 Super Cafe
3:24 This is how it should've ended
4:10 Post-Credits
4:28 Sponsor
Well, I’ll never see any more Marvel (or any other Disney movies), but it’s always a great pleasure to watch these HISHE videos. So, I guess in a weird way, I guess I’m glad the movies and shows exist so there will be more HISHE videos. Thanks for doing these.
Characters are getting sharper and sharper and animation is getting smoother and smoother
3:00 yes wong
"Curse my tiny Speedo!!!"
LOL!
Also loved the cameo from Madisynn. We need more of her in the MCU. Maybe even her own series.
After crying my eyes out with the actual movie, this was a much needed cleanser lol
Thank You HISHE
i love how you put what everyone thinks into a movie so hilarious
I'm surprised you guys didn't do another Oscars video this year.
That’s probably because the highest grossing film of the year, Avatar 2, actually was nominated for Best Picture
Hey Hewy, it’s been a while.
Coulda been The Batman cast talking about it
Nobody cares about the oscars
@@zyshock but it’s a HISHE tradition
Great job,as always!
I am surprised you guys did not do the Oscar video, where the characters discuss why they were not nominated for Best Picture and go over the other nominees, like you did for Endgame and No Way Home.
That is because this movie was bad.
@@naamadossantossilva4736 to be honest: this film was so boring
Might be because Angela Bassett was nominated for Best Supporting Actress and the Rihanna song for the movie was nominated too.
@@morganyoung3557 True, it got five nominations, while Endgame and No Way Home only got one each for visual effects.
Because black Americans need participation medals.
3:20 He stole his moment!
Should we call him black panther jr?
I think Angela got robbed of an Oscar. I'm happy for Jamie and she's a great actress and she was really good in Everything Everywhere and gave me laughs. But Angela gave me chills and I think it was a bit disappointing for me.
It's because the jury is prejudiced against superhero movies. They only like Batman.
3:56 that’s Stealth of the Panther ! Very clever to use it here ! Plus that music is amazing ^^
They were very respectful to Chadwick, and mourned him alongside T'Calla. Angela Bassett delivered a strong performance, it's a shame that she didn't win Best Supporting Actress, but maybe someday.
Lmao for this movie?
She acts the same in all her films...over dramatic
3:41 exactly 😅
3:48/if Koba had a army against a human group
Best CBM of 2022 , I can’t believe they managed to pull this off without Chadwick.
I half expected to see the funeral scene were the coffin rises, stand on end and everyone hears a *thump* coming from within and everyone looking awkward. I mean, unless they have the body strapped down or such..it was going to slump to the bottom.
Ok..I know..dark but dang it, that's what I kept thinking during that scene.
I felt like a lot of the conflict in this movie could have been stopped with more skilled diplomacy.
I mean, this could be said about nearly any film with conflict. But diplomacy doesn't sell tickets.
It didn't really make sense attacking the girl in Boston before the Wakandans were given a chance to turn her over. But whatever. It didn't make sense for N'amor to go to war with Wakanda or anybody.
@@jakepullman4914 But the lack of diplomacy doesn't make sense in the story. I would have liked for Shuri to try telling Namor that attacking the entire world would rally all of Earth's forces against a single threat, and there are too many humans on Earth to take them all and expect victory, even with less impressive warfare and soldiers. It would be impossible to win that war without Wakanda's help, and he would be putting his own civilization in the world's crosshairs. Conversely, if Talokan and Wakanda declared themselves as allies to the world, they might be able to intimidate them enough to ward off any attacks on either one.
"Work smarter, not harder."
And that's how heroes like the Black Panther get it done.
and Batman!
Maʻalob kʻiin, HISHE ! You made my day by actually having Yucatec Mayan voice actors ^_^
0:52 whoever made this intro need a raise fr🔥🔥
Ultron at the end had me rolling!
It's cool that the voices of Attuma and Namora were made by the actors of the Spanish dubbing channel
Yes! we´re so glad of being a part of the original video, but even more for doing the lines in authentic Mayan, I´m glad you liked it!
Great animation when he's flying and the feet wings are crisp. Bravo.
"Why are you blue, bro?"
Okay, had to pause for some laughter
That last bit with Ultron is what we were ALL thinking (What movie?!?! This actually happened to you in your world. I'm surprised that there aren't strong international laws about the production of Artificial Intelligences of any type after Ultron)
There actually were and they were addressed in the Agents of Shield Tv show.
That suit thing is so accurate, i thought the same thing
1 year later
These videos still bring us joy
Still miss Chadwick though
I’ve been waiting for this.
2:44
Okay, so we know he has at least twelve soldiers…
The thing they said about how artificial intelligence will kill us all one day line made me so mad
Like that already almost happened and wakanda didn’t even bother helping
Ultron got a bunch of THEIR vibranium as well
They sold on that one
They sold a Lotta stuff lol
“Keep your friends rich and your enemies rich and wait to find out which is which”
I literally just watched this movie for the first time last night, this video came out at the perfect time! 🌟
The subtitles being in Papyrus killed me 😂
Rest In Peace, Chadwick Boseman.
WAKANADA FOREVER!
3:28 who was expecting him to make that famous line for the upcoming Super Mario Bros. Movie.
“I do not.”
🤣🤣🤣your animation is getting better and better!! Glad you still used Mayan voice actors to dub Attuma and Namora 🤙🏽😂🤙🏽
We´re glad that you like what we did with the dialogs in Maya ;)
2:05 --> That noise reminds me of something... 😳
I just love how they added the drunk lady from She Hulk
Madisynn
It's spelled with 2 N's and a Y, but not where you think.
Love how the Talocan used Papyrus font when talking in reference to Avatar that’s cool
The editing in this vid was off the charts 😍😍😍😍👌👍👍👌👌👌👌👌👍👍👍👍👌👌
Should have brought in a variant of Killmonger
Figured variants cause distortions the longer they're in another universe
This wasn’t a multiverse movie so that’d be just random
Would have been a bit jarring.
Kilmonger was a murderer and just a bad dude in general. People forget he was planning on killing children.
Nah, it would be too soon after his story ended in the previous movie. The way they utilized him on the Ancestral Plane was perfect & exactly how I expected to see him-representing Shuri’s lust for vengeance.
Maybe they can bring in variants of deceased characters for The Kang Dynasty & then use Secret Wars to bring in the even more iconic names like the NWH crew, FoX-Men, Wesley Snipes, & RDJ or Chris Evans.
(I’m not expecting the last 3 but I could definitely see Tobey & Hugh accepting a role in an Avengers crossover).
another great video been watching these for forever and they still are able to entertain kudos
Great work guys!
3:57 LOLOLOLOLOL Gall Darn SUPERMAN 4!!!
3:05 Super Café 🦸🏻♂️☕️
"Curse my tiny Speedo!" - every Aussie bloke in summer
Great as always. I'm surprised there wasn't a bit about the Wakandans trying to fight the Talokans in the ocean on a boat - in their own domain where the Talokans are most powerful. That seemed like the biggest plothole to me. Surely luring them somewhere closer to land, or even fighting in from some kind of hover carrier flying above the water would have been more advantageous.
They didn't go there intending to have a full on battle, they went to capture Namor then leave. They couldn't leave after they caught him because the water bombs disabled the boat.
The sound of his feathers flapping whenever he appears! 😄
When Namor went for a walk, he asked the people of Wakanda how's their health plan.
Apparently it was great.
I see what you did there
i dont get it
@@heroprincekBoth Alucard and Namor enjoy going for walks....
I have been waiting for this video🎉🎉🎉😮
4:22 It does to cartoons a lot and I mean ALOT. Cartoon Logic I love you Ultron!
3:35. That makes sense lol
"that's for cutting off my feathers" I'm weak🤣😂🤣
its been hard for all of us but time have change guye lets just look forward its scary but we can pull it togather.
“Curse my tiny Speedo!” Never knew I could be so amused by such a well delivered line.
Yes! 3:36 is exactly how I thought it should have ended. It made no sense Namor would still surrender after seeing how successful his army was.
Yeah. Namor was hoping Wakanda would help him in conquering the world. But seeing that their army has been mostly wiped out makes them not very useful in that case.
@@justinguyos5476 Starscream’s act3:48
I was not expecting the lady from She-Hulk to make a cameo. Respect.
I forgot her name too...
Her name has two n's & one y.
@@Kentrc11 But the Y’s not where you thiiiink. That was honestly a really fun character
Yes, the best thing out of the series
@@jelita_ Tbh, She-Hulk wasn’t that bad. It wasn’t great or anything but a lot of the hate for that show is overblown imo
@@user-gw3bs2in5i yes, I don't hate She Hulk either, perhaps I should edit to the best thing out of the series because I like Madisynn.