OBSOLETE Milwaukee M18 Battery YOU Should STOP Buying!
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I thought forge battery are better than high output ????
This guy is the tool himself. Never had to work on a job site once in his life
He reminds me of pat Oswald in Balls of Fury with those goggles
He literally runs a contracting company.
@@schm147 sure doesn’t act like it
@@schm147 runs or owns? Owners own, foreman run. He definitely is in tbe better position. But Brian has a point.
He's getting paid to promote these things by tool companies. He's getting paid by youtube and these tools companies probably 10's of thousands of dollars from youtube and 10s of thousands from tool companies and with his construction company he's probably making 1,000,000$ USD per year easy. What are you doing? Watching Johnny Bravo? A show from the late 1990s and early 2000s? Probably because you peaked in Middle School, not high school, high school would be giving you too much credit, but Middle School, working a job that probably pays you $80,000 a year and you think to yourself... it's enough, $80,000 is all you need, Vince probably makes $80,000 a week... just to put that into perspective... so yea... don't know why he would even need to ever use a power tool, he can just hired a guy like you to do what he wants, and it's cheaper to hire someone so he can make more videos that makes him Millions of Dollars.
That’s a dumb thing to say. 5s are not obsolete. I have 4 6s and 3 5s and my 5s are my go to everyday batteries. The 6 is huge and heavy compared to the 5 and for most applications the 5 is way more than enough power and runtime. It’s a pain lugging around those 6s most of the time. I do however love the 3 HO. My 2s almost never get used anymore. Besides I’ve never “invested” in a battery. Why would anyone buy most battery outright? Only battery out of 16 I’ve bought was my 2 3s. They come with tools and it’s a no brainer to get a tool and battery for a few bucks more than a battery alone.
Dude what? The 6.0 isn't a huge difference than the 5.0 lmao the 5.0 in certain tools is**** the inferior choice in battery pack. It's been proven many times before dude. Also, what "most applications" are you talking about? The m18 fuel platform is marketed towards trades. I'm an electrician and I'm ALWAYS going to My H.O. batteries. I leave my 5.0s for my 175w portable charger and that's it. I run high outputs in everything as much as I can
@@salg500 i guarantee you you could do all the work you do just fine with the 5. It’s really not a huge difference in performance. A little yes, only in some tools. It’s more about cooling in high draw tools. And yes there is a big weight and size difference. It may not seem like a lot being 1 1/4 longer, 1/2” taller, and 1/2” wider, but on something that’s only 5” long, that’s 25% bigger. That’s a big difference. The 5.0 weighs 1.6 lbs. the 6.0 weighs 2.3. Again doesn’t sound like a lot but is damn near a pound heavier on an item that weighs just over a pound and a half. That’s a big fuckin difference. Basically 75% heavier. All for what in tools that don’t need it? The high output 3s are my favorite batteries but i don’t reach for my 6s as often and find myself grabbing 5s over them in many of my tools because it makes absolutely no difference other than being bigger and heavier and gets the job done literally just the same. I’ve actually had plenty of situations where with a 6.0 on the tool, i couldnt fit it in tight areas or angles and the 5 went right in. As much as i like the 3.0s (6.0s included), using the new gen 4 impact with even a 2” bit, the battery sticks out past the bit lol that can cause problems and i have no clue why they didn’t put the extra length in the ass end instead. Using my grinder, circ saw, etc i don’t use anything else but the 6.0s. The weight balances the tool better and being high draw, the battery stays cooler, has better runtime, and more power only if the tool is actually calling for more power. Lighter duty work makes no difference. I try not to push so hard I’m bogging my grinder down anyway so if i wanted to use a 5, it would cut just the same. Trust me, i like the high outputs, but i believe it’s a really dumb thing to say 5s are obsolete.
@@salg500 now when Milwaukee finally comes out with stacked lithium to save on size and weight but still be high output; now we’re talking!!👌🏼
Honestly, I'm gonna grab whatever battery is charged.
@@strizzy239 sounds like some of you need to get your weight up, complaining about the weight lmfao
You should’ve just said “get whatever new Milwaukee is out”
If those xc 5.0s go on sale I'd buy them
Ill rather have the HP3s
Home depot usually has a deal where if you buy a tool you get a free 5.0
@@doubleoughtranch4445 its a limited promotion, get them while its hot
Why?! The 5Ah strike a great balance between capacity and size! You can send your 5Ah this way if you have any problems with them. The newer high-output and high-capacity batteries are getting too cumbersome with their size.
Hercules has a high output 4AH battery and it does make a difference on the brushless grinder.
They have HP3s
The cells are old now they don't hold charge like the high outputs that's what I notice from daily use
They have high output 2s
There’s nothing wrong with the non hi output .
I disagree. I own 17 - 5.0 batts and 4 - 6.0 batts. The 5.0 are perfect for impacts, drills, jig saw, and tools that are not Batt Hungry I use the 6.0 in saws, blowers and SDS drills. Dollar per watt hour the 5.0 wins out
I don’t know if this was widespread, but a week ago, my local Home Depot had a sale on 6.0 batteries. 2 6.0 HO batteries and a charger, $150. It was hidden away in the cage up front. I didn’t go there for batteries but I definitely left that day with batteries, because a normal non sale 5.0 by itself is normally $150.
@@ethanmcleod8819 Im just buying shells from alliexpress and solder my own :)
6 or 8 high output are for the more demanding tools. Not really ideal for a impact driver or a drill because they are much bigger.
The gen 4 hammer drill will pull a ton of amps if you get it in a sticky spot, the 6.0 or forge will give it what it wants. But daily use a 5.0 is fine
Project farm that's all I'm gonna say
Is all bullshit 5 is the best
He didn’t compare them with the fuel tools
@@MikeSmith-su3di still showed almost no gain in performance
@@BKbuilds but you only get a gain in performance with a fuel tool
Sounds like a bum test 😂
@@spycedezynuk he tested drain time, amperage draw, amperage output, temperature. All sorts of stuff there was little to no gain in performance with the HO battery from a number standpoint watch the video
I like the 5’s because they take up less room on the bottom heel of the tool for tight spots and the tool is more balanced with a 5. Love the 5’s
I bought a 5 tool kit all M18 fuel with a 3.0 high output and a 8.0 high output plus a free 5.0 battery all for $600 from home Depot. I returned the 5.0 even though it was "free" and got $145. So basically got a killer all fuel tool kit for $455 ( impact, hammer drill, multi tool, and hackzall plus dinky flash light) plus 2 high output batteries. As I was returning the battery, I saw my home Depot had a 3/8" M12 fuel stubby impact with 5.0 high output and charger/bag on clearance for $160. All in all it was a great day!
Bought the same thing, sold all the tools and kept the batteries, I made 200 on the deal, which I will put towards an 8.0 lol
They really refunded you even know it was free?
@@electrofelon that's crazy lol. I love the tools and I need them. And yes they did give me a refund on the battery! I found 2x 3.0 high output kit from ace for $99. The 3.0s are awesome. I'm only using the 8.0 on the 7.25" fuel circular saw I just got from home Depot again on clearance for only $199 with a 6.0 HO and charger/bag. I feel like every time I walk into my home Depot there's another ridiculously cheap FUEL tool on clearance lol
Link to this deal? This is wild lmao
I agree with everyone else who commented. Price is still an object for most people. The old 5ah are fine for most small tools and they are regularly given away on discount The weight on the new 6.0 shouldn't be ignored.
The 5.0 is big enough I'm not walking around with that massive ass brick. Cmon man
5.0 is fine for me. Got a drill mid torque and high torque never really needed more
I’m DYIer and had bad luck with high output ones had to applied the warranty twice as 8.0 had issues and my first 3.0 still on duty and never failed
I like the single and double stack 18650 batteries. I use them if theyre enough for the tool. Less bulk, less weight, easier work.
I believe it because he yells it
Love how UA-cam shows me this the day after I bought a 5 amp for $99 at Home Depot because they had a sale 😅
The only thing I hate about the new 6.0 and 8.0 battery’s is that they are wider so they make contact with some of my tool clips! But that could be because they are bent. Does anyone else have this issue?
I’d disagree you should have a mix of both Xc and h.o. in the mechanical field there are many tight spaces the HO batts are slightly taller and wider not to mention heavier than xc you can’t get your tool where it needs to be at times with a H.O.
also bigger battery on a small tool just makes things more difficult than they need to be. If my 5.0 does the job fine why would I add all the extra weight and size?
So you're saying H.O.'s are wider?? Yup!
Actually I've never had a hard time getting my tool where it needs to be with my H.O.'s....🤪🤪🤪🤪
The Milwaukee M18 Fuel drill and impact driver kit should come packaged with an HO CP3.0 and an HO XC6.0 instead of two XC5.0 batteries.
5.0 is the perfect power to weight battery, most useable battery on any tools. only downside is on larger tools like the leaf blower and large motor grinder they will over heat if doing a lot of work. that's the only time i'd prefer high out put batteries.
Idk, I just buy whatever tool homedepot has on sale that comes with 2 batteries and a charger. Typically comes with 5.0’s. Did pick up the 3.0 high output. Really dig them
You only need high output for more demanding tools. Drills, dremels, 1/4 impacts, 1/4 router, etc... do not need them. Also, the M18 High Outputs are known to loose charge fast and not fully charge after a while
5’s are the best for tight spots and balance of the tool
What are you recommend for a better made cordless power tool well best made cordless tool Dewalt. What do you recommend battery packs?
Or just buy whatever is on sale cuz all the batteries are crazy expensive...... EXCEPT the 9's and 12's. Tldr they slowly lose charge capacity. Avoid them. Non tldr: There is something wrong with them. (My cousin) bought two 9's and both slowly reduced the maximum amount they would charge. Replaced them under warranty when they would only charge half way. Both replacements and the 12 he bought a couple years ago have done the same thing. Currently our brand new 6 runs the grinder for longer than the 12 when it says it's fully charged (right now it stops at 3 bars). The 5s have been great. You don't need anything more for the drills and drivers cuz the next 5 charges before you can get done with the one on the tool. Have not owned a 6 or 8 long enough to know if they will have the same issue as the 9 and 12.
Im still using 2.0, Standard XC and XC 4.0
I bought the gardening tools for Milwaukee and i have a shit ton of extra 8.0 battiers i font need to buy anymore battieries since i already own a shit ton of the 5.0 and i get a bunch of them for the low brand new
If you need some guy with safety glasses on so he doesn’t poke himself in the eye with his NY pointer finger to tell you this…..
Is it worth replacing the batteries inside the pouch?
I had a very nice older milwaukee saw zall and needed to convert to the M18 battery.
I bought a 3.0 xc (2) @ $99 and it works very well.
Now put a phillips locking tip in your surge impact and try pulling out a screw that's kinda stripped. The length of the battery can be a problem. Keep a 5amp handy if you need to get close or in tight places.
Honestly the 6 is stupid. It's the same exact shell as the High Output 8s... So why own a 6 when the 8 is the same size? Best batteries are the HO3s and HO8s for different tools and applications.
6.0 kinda bulky I still want to get 5.0 for my router other small tools but I think it's good to have options
I just got one of the new forge batteries yesterday and I can't wait to try it Monday morning
And the 6ah don’t work in my new or old 3/4” unless it’s inverted. Going to have to try the new forge I guess
I like how you edited that loop very cool
I have 5s for mi impact wrenches and.. well they perform nice
It's cheaper to buy a bracket with harborfreight battery. The tools is the real difference, all the battery perform 5% of each others with same capacity.
poor claim /argument in video. Its not an item with replaceable parts.
would that be the forged??
Two days ago I picked up two m18 fuel impact drivers and an M18 fuel hammer drill from Home Depot. They came with those "obsolete" 5 amp batteries brand new out of the box. If Home Depot isn't making the switch, then why should we?
What about the forge batteries?
So invest in HO xc6 and the new forge batteries got it👍🏽🔥
HO 3.0’s are my go to over 5’s and I run ho 6.0’s on everything like saws and sawzalls. Drills and guns get the 3.0’s all day
The 3.0 HO is my favorite. Light and strong.
Even if the 5.0 and 6.0 HO put out the same power in a test, the HO won't have to work as hard to do it. That will affect longevity. As others have pointed out, they can do the same work, but the 5.0 heats up.
The 6s are significantly heavier than the 5s. If you’re just working at a bench then great but if you’re on ladders or scaffolding or in framing or any more active pastime they suck
Yep, send all of your 5.0s to me! I will take on the burden of their uselessness so you can be free to get 6.0s. 😂
I will agree to disagree with you on this Vince. You might get some more pop with the 6.0 but it’s also a thicc boy which makes hand tools a bit more cumbersome. I’ll use a 6 in my ope though! Most everything else still runs well on a 5
Best Milwaukee battery made ever was the 9.0 high demand (same cells as XC) when they were grey on the side, when they changed them to all black something else changed bc people had issues it they still made the 9 I’d take a high demand over a high output any day of the week!
the 9.0 gray and black are the same thing
@@jps101574 on paper correct however they discontinued the 9 shortly after the color change bc people were reporting issues with it. I can’t remember if it was cases splitting or cells dying ….. i believe when the color changed it wasn’t the only change in manufacturing. I own 3 9’s 2 grey 1 black 2 grey obviously older and the black one won’t fully charge.
Even better get a few of the HO 3.0s. Light and they pack a punch
This is like saying the M12 3.0's are obsolete compared to the 6.0's. If it suits what you're trying to achieve, then use it.
They are obsolete when my tool demands more power the 5.0s give out the HO 6.0s give it that extra umph
This man said obsolete and obviously has no clue what it means , those batteries still fit in new tools therefore it’s not obsolete. And example of an obsolete tool would be the old Dewalt stick batteries that were discontinued a few years back. The Milwaukee 5’s are still 100% compatible with new Milwaukee brand tools… therefore not obsolete at all .
I bought two HO 9amp ones. They are junk. They stopped making them. Won’t warranty them
Eh, in terms of buying the newest thing, in theory I'd say buy them. But we know how that worked out with the 3rd gen fuel. Besides, the 5ah are selling for pretty cheap, and they still work great.
They sending you a check from Brookfield? Right tool for the job man, and damn, do the 5ah fit a loot of jobs
All the 5.0s, 2.0s and 2.5s? (I think those exist but I’ve never bought any) are great for the majority of your impact drivers, drills, and the nail guns provided you’re not driving or drilling huge fasteners or huge holes through tough material. Also the 5.0s are super cheap to use for your radios, lights, and other tools that don’t really get much but more run time from the HO batteries
I mean, it completely depends on what you're doing.
Unless youre running a tool that drains alot of juice all day long, the 5s are more than enough. I mean holy s**t, you could strap a car battery to your drill but at what point is it too much
The new high output batteries don't last as long as the 5.0 batteries. I have an ho8.0 and it doesn't fully charge anymore but my 5.0 batteries are still kicking strong. I think it's the new cells they're using.
He’s just trying to sell, for most people a 3 or 5 non High output is perfect. I work in construction and I use mostly 3’s batteries. The weight is a big factor
It’s kinda funny how the 6.0 hp replaced the 5.0 year n the m18 line and now the 5.0 is replacing the 6.0 in the m12 line.
High out puts don’t last but a couple years but 5.0 last me like 6 or 7 years.
You gotta do the one handed aggressive arm swoop and swat all the tools of the table and then introduce then new batteries. And yel whoooooooo while ur at it lol.
I’m just beginning my collection and seeing this guy fail to mention unless you’re already seasoned in your power tool fix. Then the 5AH are still a solid battery. Like come on man
I love the 6.0 as a welder who has and regularly use two battery angle grinders daily I cannot praise them enough
To me as long as the battery allows the drill to work , its a good battery
The 5.0 dont hold charge as good anymore they are old thats the main thing why you shouldnt buy them the cells go bad over time
The real question is where can I get m28 batteries? 👀
Every single one of my high output, batteries has completely taken a shit on me the sixes and eights the only thing reliable is my high demand 12 amp hour battery, and all the other fives that I have. That being said if anybody would like to purchase Milwaukee batteries, I will sell them at a great cost in order to pay for my new Makita tools that I am going back to.
Get the 8.0s. instead. Same battery size and weight for 2 additional ah.
And less power...it all depends on the tool
So when I need a little more oomf to my drill or compact driver use that brick of a 6.0? Yeah that makes sense🤣
Any battery that holds a charge is a good battery.
All my miwaukee batteries wore out so fast. I use them on my drills and impacts. Meanwhile my number one skill saw I use is a Makita and have had for longer and use way more and those batteries are almost as good as when I bought them.
Milwaukee needs to fix there batterie issue
I have 5s that are years old and still hold lots of power and give lots of power. So...yeah.
Sorry but batteries for our tools shouldn't be so expensive that we call them an "investment" 300, 400 for "A" battery is ridiculous.
This is hilariously stupid. Calling a battery obsolete because it has 20% less capacity than the new version.
Right!! And at a cost of 25% bigger and 75% heavier. 5s are still great batteries for size vs runtime and power. Not to mention much cheaper too.
If you have a charger handy and spare batteries, high output 3.0 is my fav
They are not obsolete. Each battery serves a different purpose. The 6 is larger and heavier. It does not “replace” the 5. The closest to the 5 is the 3 high output but it’s longer and doesn’t last as long. Therefore, there’s still a place for the 5.0. This is coming from somebody that owns 2, 3, 5, 6 forge only, 8, and 12. The 6 forge beats the 6 HO in every way so I got rid of all my 6 HO.
Sad to say, but I am done with Milwaukee. The batteries and the tools are both overpriced and the batteries do not last.
M12 6ah just died only a year old.I heard about issues a month ago and now I know lol
Are they better than dewalt? I was thinking of changing over completely over the next few years. I hear they are better but now I’m seeing that there batteries suck. My dewalt flex volt batteries still going strong since the day 1 releases
@@jzuniga633 most Milwaukee owners don’t get bad batteries . I’m sure if you took a survey asked 1000 Dewalt and 1000 Milwaukee guys you would get a few of each saying they got a bad battery . I’ve had a bad flex volt battery out of the box once . I have a m12 battery that won’t charge fully. Milwaukee batteries have a great warranty 3 yrs send it E service free postage and usually under a 2 week turn around door step to door step.
@@jzuniga633 I would stick with what you have, because it is such a big expense to change. I will say thou I received a Metabo drill set for Christmas, and I am liking it.
Join the dark side 🟨⬛
What I’d still have 4.0s?
🤷♂️ i mean the HO’s are great. Currently on sale they are cheaper then 5.0 so yeah IF you’re looking for new batteries get the 6.0 if they are are ON SALE because 5.0 are getting stupidly expensive
The mentality of trying to kill off your old batteries just to replace them with the "next new thing" is such a wasteful way of thinking.
He has that great salesman vibe to him.
I mean you can just buy new batteries and replace the internal workings of both batteries,then return the old batteries inside the new casing.
Seen it done.
Some guys wear squints grinding concrete in a hurricane. Vince wears safety goggles when he changes his batteries
What about for a casual user that can find these on really good sales?
They are all made from the same batteries, nothing is obsolete (except for the high output which is made from slightly bigger batteries). I can credit my knowledge of batteries from r/flashlight.
Xc 3.0 is another option that is lighter yo work with.
30 seconds scrolling through comments and i can confirm Milwaulkee fans whine the most, wow!! Lmao
Investing in just batteries?? Wait till they put a kit on sale and get tools also. I bought my M12 Hackzall, but had no 12v batteries, so I bought a $135 6ah battery. Recently, I bought the M12 Gen 3 Impact and Hammer Drill kit with a 4ah and 2ah battery for 240$ out the door. Granted it was a 6ah battery, but many kits/tool packages are a much better buy.
realizing why I stopped watching this channel
XC 5.0 are satisfactory!
Battery and tools suck over time they get really lose and it’s annoying having to push them into the gun so it can work
I never have a problems with batteries because I only use corded tools.
You can literally rebuild the battery pack, no need to go buy new ones.
You don’t have to repeat it so many times , make it so annoying
Yep, I got numerous 6.0, 8.0 and 12.0
High outputs cuzbo!
@@VCGConstruction I still have a bunch of the 5.0 & 9.0 from 5-7 years ago and yes it still works great but I use those mainly in my PACKOUT radio, angle grinder, drill and other tools that don’t need the HO batteries.