Every Car Company Killed This Century

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  • @Vali7757
    @Vali7757 Рік тому +4969

    They really brought back Up to Speed for a few seconds.

    • @chuckgaulke6219
      @chuckgaulke6219 Рік тому +463

      They need to bring back up to speed on a weekly basis

    • @andyholstein237
      @andyholstein237 Рік тому +287

      This feels like a classic episode before they got bought out.

    • @BMW-M4-M-POWER
      @BMW-M4-M-POWER Рік тому +14

      @@andyholstein237 what

    • @Tagiau
      @Tagiau Рік тому +181

      @@BMW-M4-M-POWER Donut was bought by Recurrent in 2021. But unlike what other dude said, Donut was still releasing Up2Speed for a little over a year after that buyout.

    • @kennykunie6660
      @kennykunie6660 Рік тому +73

      Thanks Obama

  • @fordmangtho351
    @fordmangtho351 Рік тому +1197

    This video needs be renamed into “How many extremely bad business decisions can GM make?”

    • @Sergiblacklist
      @Sergiblacklist Рік тому +42

      Just stood in a field of rakes and they couldn't miss one 😂

    • @enhancementtank5876
      @enhancementtank5876 Рік тому +6

      Business always ruin cars after computers did

    • @budgroweryt9947
      @budgroweryt9947 Рік тому +15

      No it should be called how many bad decisions can the federal government make

    • @Username-2
      @Username-2 Рік тому

      @@budgroweryt9947 You can’t blame the government for designing and manufacturing the ugly unreliable piece of junk cars made by gm and other companies that went out of business.

    • @nehguhtiv6873
      @nehguhtiv6873 Рік тому +5

      *insert electric Silverado*

  • @Marylandtecher86
    @Marylandtecher86 Рік тому +153

    I remember driving the final Saab model back to the dealership after a show at our local county fair. It felt weird. I knew it was the last model, I was never a Saab fan. It was strange driving the very last model of a car. That car was actually pretty unique compared to everything else I drove that year.
    Also after years of working in an auto body shop, I can still say the Saturn was one of the easiest cars to work on ever. They were so freaking easy. I actually miss the simple engineering in Saturns. Great cars honestly.

    • @davidmhh9977
      @davidmhh9977 Рік тому +13

      I'd argue that Saturn had the most potential of any of the brands GM axed in 08. Pontiac was more iconic, but just wasn't able to differentiate itself from Chev by the 2000's. Hummer wedged itself into a really narrow niche that wasn't viable during the recession, and Saab also had too narrow of a niche, while also just being too up and down in terms of quality.
      As for Saturn, it suffered from badge engineering, but at least it's body style made it stand out. It also filled the small economy car niche better than any other GM brand.

    • @Oddman1980
      @Oddman1980 7 місяців тому +2

      I had an Ion that I rehabilitated, and it was like the car was made of legos. It was so simple to change body parts on it, I changed a bent aluminum bumper support in about 15 minutes.

    • @no-nonseplayer6612
      @no-nonseplayer6612 7 місяців тому

      well saab still exisist today theyre jsut not doing cars anymore their car factory were shutdown yes and gm didnt even own saab

    • @no-nonseplayer6612
      @no-nonseplayer6612 7 місяців тому

      last part about saab is false a lot of it in fact it was and still is owned by swedish goverment and gm rented saab from swedish goverment until swedish goverment ended that rent agreement due gm failing on their payments and it was swedish goverm,ent who also blocked sale of automotive parto of to chinese

    • @jeraldjoyce2995
      @jeraldjoyce2995 5 місяців тому

      my dad was really into saturn. a little strange that the shop in my town recommended that i steer clear from them, but they might be onto something with 90s economy cars that were always treated like beaters. its unfortunate that america seems to have given up entirely on the affordable sedan segment, but like. the saturn sky was a really cool car & the platform used by the ion was still used in australia.

  • @speedwaynutt
    @speedwaynutt Рік тому +2497

    Being Australian I have to mention the mighty Holden. Rip the mighty lion.

    • @9Epicman
      @9Epicman Рік тому +135

      they shouldve mentioned it yes but at least they mentioned Pontiac which eventually sold Holdens in the US

    • @superjive8282
      @superjive8282 Рік тому +104

      Surprised they didn't mention it when they were talking about the other axed GM badges

    • @RagdollRacingInc
      @RagdollRacingInc Рік тому +62

      Holden and Falcon in Australia were the best

    • @ringoferrer2343
      @ringoferrer2343 Рік тому +82

      not mentioning holden is such a disrespect

    • @jeffystevens
      @jeffystevens Рік тому +39

      Holden deez nuts 😢

  • @AmiralPatate
    @AmiralPatate Рік тому +503

    One day manufacturers trying to make youth-oriented cars or brands will learn that youths don't have money to buy new cars and that their market actually is old folks looking for a smaller second car.

    • @jcorkable
      @jcorkable Рік тому +59

      But old people love to feel like they’re keeping up with what’s cool with the kids. So the true market is cars that old people think young people think are cool.

    • @JSchroederee
      @JSchroederee Рік тому +22

      I always wondered if this was an intentional move to market to the elderly pretending to market to youth
      Also the problem is the youth that can afford cars make terrible choices and don't want practical hatchbacks and crossovers. That's why the 86 survives😅

    • @SonGoku-97
      @SonGoku-97 Рік тому +3

      *laughs in midlife crisis*

    • @Toolace
      @Toolace Рік тому +15

      @@JSchroederee Hey, the 86/BRZ actually gets pretty good MPG, and young people can justify not having a spacious car because they often don’t have kids yet, and if they do have kids, the backseats aren’t great, but younger kids will fit. 🤷‍♂️

    • @IDeltic
      @IDeltic Рік тому +3

      @@Toolace Very much this.
      I don't have kids so I'm enjoying "interesting" cars while I can.
      My first car was something boring and cheap (Fiat Punto) but since then I've had a Z4 and now an 86.
      And I guess this is why sportscars are also known as mid-life crisis cars, people who want them, but have kids, have to wait until after their kids have grown up and got cars of their own/moved out.

  • @matthewwilson4592
    @matthewwilson4592 Рік тому +61

    Justin has become such a great host. So relatable and just brings such a positive energy to the screen.

  • @efftee
    @efftee Рік тому +662

    You forgot about Holden (killed in 2020), Rover (killed in 2005) and Daewoo (killed in 2015)

    • @PotGinsters
      @PotGinsters Рік тому +72

      MG as well in 2005, the new MG is a new Chinese company just the same badge.
      Rover seems to get forgotten outside of the UK and Europe, crazy when they were responsible for the creation on Land Rover and Range Rover originally.

    • @vwpassat444
      @vwpassat444 Рік тому +11

      isn't suzuki dead? at least in the US it is

    • @Jgvideophoto
      @Jgvideophoto Рік тому +97

      @@vwpassat444 Suzuki definitely not dead.

    • @noneyabizz8337
      @noneyabizz8337 Рік тому +14

      Did they forget? Or, are they irrelevant in the US?

    • @NipponSpeedWorks
      @NipponSpeedWorks Рік тому +15

      same as isuzu

  • @toasterusei
    @toasterusei Рік тому +282

    Rip Holden, the sick skids still rest in our heart.

    • @EngiNetion
      @EngiNetion Рік тому +40

      I'm surprised that they didn't mention Holden in this video

    • @johnmurcott1273
      @johnmurcott1273 Рік тому +4

      07 holden

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato Рік тому +5

      @@EngiNetion they don't live in Aussie, that's why

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato Рік тому +3

      Holden designed the G8 and 2003-2006 GTO

    • @EngiNetion
      @EngiNetion Рік тому +5

      @@GiordanDiodato pretty sure they know Holden, you don't need to live in Australia to know Holden anyways.

  • @svenllr
    @svenllr Рік тому +53

    It’s crazy how many divisions GM killed off. Pontiac was the hardest to swallow. I really miss the TA. What an epic name plate. Heck, even the Holden GTO was nice.

  • @svenlangstrom8927
    @svenlangstrom8927 Рік тому +296

    As a Swede and proud SAAB-owner I really miss SAAB. Such unique cars that is also the reason we have so many turbocharged cars😔

    • @donkedic1
      @donkedic1 Рік тому +16

      I appreciate the special nod to the ‘Saabaru’
      Anyone who doesn’t know about that, isn’t a true gearhead.

    • @scrambler69-xk3kv
      @scrambler69-xk3kv Рік тому +2

      I agree. Saa was a wonderful car company. from USA.

    • @meemdoggoriginallongdrink
      @meemdoggoriginallongdrink Рік тому +10

      As a Finn and ex-Saab owner I also miss Saab (and my old Saab too)

    • @Joseph-R
      @Joseph-R Рік тому +6

      Man I wanted a Saab so bad as my first car. I had a real limited budget and tried finding an aero or viggen, manual, less than 100k miles, but I had so little options close enough for me to take a bus to. I waited for so long so I eventually gave up and bought a really well priced TL type S, but Saab went under shortly after that and I kept regretting my decision.

    • @ConradNeill
      @ConradNeill Рік тому +2

      I had a remapped 9000 Aero. Can't think of another car that you could use to move house in the morning, and embarrass boy racers in the evening. A true wolf in sheep's clothing. Saab deserved far better than what GM did to them. They were a pioneering company that'll always have a place in my heart.

  • @tretaylor7844
    @tretaylor7844 Рік тому +189

    This literally could've been an up to speed episode.....please guys....bring it back😢

    • @abarthcorsa3493
      @abarthcorsa3493 Рік тому +8

      Yes up to speed was so good

    • @re5onance244
      @re5onance244 Рік тому +4

      What else could they do it on?

    • @acropophia8857
      @acropophia8857 Рік тому +2

      @@re5onance244lots actually, if you really need to ask that then what’re you doing here…

    • @dangreen7282
      @dangreen7282 Рік тому +8

      They aren't even trying anymore 🙄😥

    • @keaudretoler
      @keaudretoler Рік тому

      @@acropophia8857 😂😂y’all sound like annoying ass kids on every video “bring back up to speed” my nigga they seen the last 2 million comments

  • @mikephantasmic
    @mikephantasmic Рік тому +21

    RIP SAAB.
    I've owned two 9-3s and I loved them. Not the best cars in terms of driving, but so unique, versatile and interesting.
    My 1999 9-3 SE was so dope. Other than the FWD issues and lack of frame rigidity.
    I put the full Viggen rescue kit on that baby, swapped the turbo for a TD04, viggen intercooler, cobra turbo inlet pipe, stage 1 tune, bilstein shocks.. she was a beast in the end.
    I miss that car.

    • @fgdark
      @fgdark 7 місяців тому

      My 9-5 had buttons on its buttons

  • @moefitzgerald4439
    @moefitzgerald4439 Рік тому +423

    If GM could bring back one brand I’d love to see Pontiac back on the road. They produced some absolute legends

    • @waterloo123100
      @waterloo123100 Рік тому +20

      As much as I do miss the WS6 I still miss Oldsmobile cars more they had class with out cheap Pontiac quality

    • @xmhkillz
      @xmhkillz Рік тому +43

      Except its the current GM we are talking about, even if it happened it would just be a rebadged chevy thats going to break down every 10k miles like the rest of them.

    • @triggeredcat120
      @triggeredcat120 Рік тому +4

      The best brand that came out of GM

    • @donwhitton7791
      @donwhitton7791 Рік тому +8

      Love me my Solstice GXP with GMPP performance upgrade. 290hp and 340ftlb in such a tiny car, awesome

    • @hunterbrock2347
      @hunterbrock2347 Рік тому +7

      ​@@waterloo123100 Buick is still kicking somehow

  • @Ctackett14
    @Ctackett14 Рік тому +590

    Rest in peace Plymouth and Pontiac you will be missed :(

    • @antoineaaron3754
      @antoineaaron3754 Рік тому +58

      Especially Pontiac. I’ve been hoping and praying for a new trans am/firebird

    • @kotajames6211
      @kotajames6211 Рік тому +33

      I'm a Mopar guy, Plymouth had the 'Cuda for god sakes🥲

    • @Racing_Dude
      @Racing_Dude Рік тому +3

      R.I.P

    • @Rextraordinaire
      @Rextraordinaire Рік тому +18

      @@antoineaaron3754 Let's be real though, it would still just be a rebadged Camaro

    • @antoineaaron3754
      @antoineaaron3754 Рік тому +11

      @@Rextraordinaire true, and I have a Camaro but the Firebirds, especially the Firehawks had more power, looked better, and had those aesthetic looking ram air hoods. Doesn’t take from the fact that you’re correct though 😂

  • @johnmoreno662
    @johnmoreno662 Рік тому +437

    That joke about the year 2001 went right over everyone’s head 🤣

    • @SpeedKing..
      @SpeedKing.. Рік тому +81

      ​@@MacAttack1776it crashed right in

    • @Mav_2Want3D
      @Mav_2Want3D Рік тому +11

      ​@@SpeedKing..Nahhh 💀😭

    • @alterbennet5420
      @alterbennet5420 Рік тому +2

      It didn't happen like that in 2001

    • @kylemeans8342
      @kylemeans8342 Рік тому

      I knew what he meant

    • @sugma69420
      @sugma69420 Рік тому +15

      I could feel it crashing right into me at 9:11

  • @RedWolfGTR
    @RedWolfGTR Рік тому +116

    The Pontiac Solstice/Saturn Sky was as close as GM came to making a mini Corvette since the Opal GT. It had so much potential.

    • @AdultsAreTalking
      @AdultsAreTalking Рік тому +8

      Been saying this! Plus, they also made a modern Opel GT which was just another rebadged Saturn Sky lol

    • @jonf2009
      @jonf2009 Рік тому +14

      The solstice design team even wanted to put a V8 in the solstice but gm nixed it because they didn't want internal competition for the Corvette.

    • @blazinglightgt8673
      @blazinglightgt8673 Рік тому +4

      @@jonf2009 Go to Adam LZ for that. He shoved an LS into his mom's Solstice.

    • @taurussho86
      @taurussho86 Рік тому +4

      Naw, that goes to the Pontiac Fiero... All they had to do was keep improving it. Look at Corvette now, rear engine

    • @AdultsAreTalking
      @AdultsAreTalking Рік тому +2

      @@jonf2009 you mean external competition? Lol

  • @williamschratz7249
    @williamschratz7249 Рік тому +131

    "From hot-rodders to house-wives to house-rodders to hot-wives" went hard lmaoo

  • @BlackRam17
    @BlackRam17 Рік тому +5

    No other car has had the attitude of the Trans Am WS6 since 2002. Looked awesome and very few in its price range could beat it.

  • @mildsoup8978
    @mildsoup8978 Рік тому +394

    50 yrs from now we'll look back and say "these were the golden years of donut "

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому +7

      Yep. Golden years that are forever legendary.

    • @KenanTurkiye
      @KenanTurkiye Рік тому +7

      1:39 290 hrsprs
      ''decent back then'' ???

    • @nytrix765
      @nytrix765 Рік тому +3

      Ok

    • @SamRK-1000
      @SamRK-1000 Рік тому +14

      Meh. Not golden years, more like mediocre years. Feels like the golden times of donut have passed or maybe that’s just me not liking their content as much.

    • @father0f4ll
      @father0f4ll Рік тому +4

      @Repent and believe in Jesus Christ shut

  • @PrinceofPwnage
    @PrinceofPwnage Рік тому +118

    I miss Up To Speed
    Remember when James said something along the lines of "I'LL HOST THIS TILL THE DAY I DIE"
    ... and then he went to hospital.

    • @Zackaria_sMax
      @Zackaria_sMax Рік тому +16

      Yeah they fkd this channel up... I also miss the old Bumper 2 Bumper when they'd look at dope cars. Before they made it about just looking at just a Bumper or something then just killing that show also...

    • @Faderade69
      @Faderade69 Рік тому

      They are basically still doing it. Just doesn’t have the title.

    • @PrinceofPwnage
      @PrinceofPwnage Рік тому +1

      @@Zackaria_sMax yes, that number to bumper was amazing

    • @spergalicious27
      @spergalicious27 Рік тому

      ​@@Faderade69no

  • @soren_prod
    @soren_prod 7 місяців тому +5

    Didn’t think I’d click on a donut media video to see two grown men talking about their SAAB story

  • @jh1328
    @jh1328 Рік тому +991

    This is just “How GM ruins everything.”

    • @Adrian-mq5ld
      @Adrian-mq5ld Рік тому +67

      Actually it was Obuma's requirments for GM to close Pontiac. Long live Kenya.

    • @aa-tx7th
      @aa-tx7th Рік тому +53

      wheres the 'report for dipsh!ttery button'...

    • @freshlysaltedfishing8500
      @freshlysaltedfishing8500 Рік тому

      ​@Adrian 0 yeah because Obama was president in 2001. Stop spreading lies ohh yeah that's all you all are good for.

    • @Adrian-mq5ld
      @Adrian-mq5ld Рік тому +22

      @@aa-tx7th next to "diversity is muh strength"

    • @Thanatos833
      @Thanatos833 Рік тому

      @@Adrian-mq5ld Well if its not making a profit, why the hell should it stay open? White Pride?

  • @bonganimosupye4541
    @bonganimosupye4541 Рік тому +453

    the way James explains the 2008 financial crisis is top tier😂

    • @budgroweryt9947
      @budgroweryt9947 Рік тому

      But it's not true, it was the government making more money off of the backs of the American people. The reason everything crashed the way it did was from the insider trading the government does.

  • @Zedler-lu4pk
    @Zedler-lu4pk Рік тому +20

    You forgot Holden and Daewoo! Also, Olds made some other non-rebadged cars before going under, like the Aurora, which was a pretty big deal when it came out, and the Intrigue

    • @mewmew8932
      @mewmew8932 Рік тому +1

      The Auroras were a big deal in the Philippines, they were like the Cadillacs of the islands. You'll still see a load of them around in the smaller cities

    • @drg19841
      @drg19841 Рік тому +3

      Aurora owner here. I love these cars. It has a personality, it drives well, it rides well, it sounds good after a muffler swap, and it's pushing 200K. I've owned 3 and they've all been great.

  • @albionmerrick
    @albionmerrick Рік тому +242

    Justin has really opened up and seems more comfortable. He's great! ❤

  • @broceratops1337
    @broceratops1337 Рік тому +97

    A James and Justin video has chaotic energy and I'm here for it

    • @L-Dub23
      @L-Dub23 Рік тому

      Yeah. Hoody guy Vs short sleeved 😂

    • @kwamea.n1723
      @kwamea.n1723 Рік тому +1

      They look like brothers or half brothers

  • @rosethyname
    @rosethyname Рік тому +3

    6:53 I absolutely agree. I have a Black on Black, 1968 Pontiac Bonneville 428ci Convertible. (Two owner, matching numbers, mint condition) Forever a classic.

  • @joeymorgan1588
    @joeymorgan1588 Рік тому +198

    James - “nothing else bad happened that year…”

  • @haydenf1353
    @haydenf1353 Рік тому +787

    Some rich fella needs to bring back Saab

  • @Oddman1980
    @Oddman1980 7 місяців тому +6

    I had a 2003 Ion sedan with a five speed, drove it for years. It was running like new at 192,000 miles. And it was really easy to maintain and repair.

  • @QMaverick1
    @QMaverick1 Рік тому +150

    The Solstice and Sky were freaking great cars. Some of the most underrated vehicles . . .

  • @l.e.miller1208
    @l.e.miller1208 Рік тому +168

    Killing Pontiac right when it was finding its footing again and making interesting cars was a huge huge mistake by GM...and now they've gone and killed Holden too.
    You know if they kept Pontiac alive (Who was selling Holdens) they probably could have keep BOTH badges alive. Pretty sad

    • @Atsah
      @Atsah Рік тому +33

      Since when did GM do anything that made sense?

    • @LayzeeGiant
      @LayzeeGiant Рік тому +7

      All the $$ sunk into that hideous Aztek doomed the brand. Still sucks to this day.

    • @l.e.miller1208
      @l.e.miller1208 Рік тому +23

      @@LayzeeGiant The Aztek successfully predicted the demand for crossover SUVS and the 4th Gen RAV4 grill is very similar to the Aztek's ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @AdultsAreTalking
      @AdultsAreTalking Рік тому +2

      @@l.e.miller1208 Ehhh that grille comment is a reach lol.

    • @l.e.miller1208
      @l.e.miller1208 Рік тому +16

      @@AdultsAreTalking it's not a reach. The Aztek isn't pretty but it had a good idea of where car design was going -- it was just way ahead of its time and not very good looking. Not a good combo. If you are going to challenge your audience you need to nail it. But they were right about where design was going even if they didn't nail it.

  • @TPD
    @TPD Рік тому +2

    this video is fucking unhinged, i love it. especially the 2001 joke

  • @urfathersmelledofelderberr9498
    @urfathersmelledofelderberr9498 Рік тому +89

    5:50 is this the closest thing we will get to up to speed nowadays?

    • @PrydeWater901
      @PrydeWater901 Рік тому +2

      The podcast is similar in nature.

    • @Tfish64
      @Tfish64 Рік тому +3

      @@PrydeWater901 podcast is great. There’s a little bit of everything mixed in there, so there’s something for everyone.

  • @courtney5796
    @courtney5796 Рік тому +48

    The energy James brings (albeit, sometimes weird) is why I started watching and why I still watch. Love you Jimmy.
    - Dad

    • @Zeratsu
      @Zeratsu Рік тому

      yeah like "TESLA" shout )

  • @Jordan-vk9fd
    @Jordan-vk9fd Рік тому +4

    4:10 most underrated joke ever

  • @TandemSix
    @TandemSix Рік тому +78

    "And others were sent across the rainbow Bridge"
    "And now they live in hell"
    The car quote of all times

  • @DonBlackBird71
    @DonBlackBird71 Рік тому +133

    Gimme my Holden back PLEASE

    • @ik2a
      @ik2a Рік тому +3

      Opel:

    • @UpperRobin29
      @UpperRobin29 Рік тому +1

      They're Honden it back

    • @peacem8574
      @peacem8574 7 місяців тому

      You can always import an Opel

    • @FH4Player6397
      @FH4Player6397 5 місяців тому +1

      @@ik2a *Vauxhall lol

  • @Seadubbleu
    @Seadubbleu Рік тому +5

    “Plymouth’s last car rolled off the production line and nothing else had happened that year” 😂😂😂

  • @brettconv83
    @brettconv83 Рік тому +67

    BRING BACK UP TO SPEED! Educational history videos are awesome that’s why I started watching Donut.

    • @WellingtonCordeiro
      @WellingtonCordeiro Рік тому +4

      I miss those too but I feel like they've maybe run out of "easy" to do ones and it seemed like one of their harder/more time consuming videos to make.

    • @DailyDriver.
      @DailyDriver. Рік тому +1

      Ditto

    • @brettconv83
      @brettconv83 Рік тому

      @@WellingtonCordeiro That’s probably very true.

    • @Faderade69
      @Faderade69 Рік тому +1

      How is this not the same thing? You need a title that bad?

    • @brettconv83
      @brettconv83 Рік тому

      @@Faderade69 it was the actual format not the title

  • @nvrndingsmmr
    @nvrndingsmmr Рік тому +93

    Always thought Scion should've been more successful, their marketing was cool and their lineup was cool. Loved the focus on customization!

    • @brianmcdermott3938
      @brianmcdermott3938 Рік тому +18

      I think if they marketed to a different group they probably would've been better off, because their cars were well made and good looking mostly...but their primary demographic was teens and just barely adults...who can't really afford new cars.

    • @marlboro5110
      @marlboro5110 Рік тому

      J

    • @danielzhang1916
      @danielzhang1916 Рік тому +5

      it was a good idea on paper, but in the end, people were buying Corollas instead, the brand fell apart

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato Рік тому +3

      @@brianmcdermott3938 I feel like what really killed them was the Kia Soul. it was cheaper, got better mileage, and had better interior space.

    • @BlackRam17
      @BlackRam17 Рік тому +1

      Can’t tell you how many TC owners thought they could compete with V8s

  • @TheSkubna
    @TheSkubna Рік тому +2

    My brother had a poster of the prowler on his walls back in grade school. I always thought that thing would have a huge engine. At least they made a fairly unique design. Back in 2008 i had a plastic saturn SC2, some guy came up to my window and tried to carjack me. Kicked my door as hard as i could and launched him across the road. Took off, and when i pulled over i looked and my door was so, so badly dented, all i did was bumped the door with my palm a few times and suddenly the door popped right back and there was only some minor wear on the paint

  • @simplejonny
    @simplejonny Рік тому +53

    It didn't occur to me that Scion would be in this and I wasn't ready for it. 😭😭😭 Rest in power to both versions of the XB and the TC.

    • @TheCrookedWheel
      @TheCrookedWheel Рік тому +6

      I loved my tC. Such a great car. If it makes you feel better, a lot of the TC's looks and features made their way to the next gen Corollas.

    • @mewmew8932
      @mewmew8932 Рік тому

      I've seen a tC rip by me on the street at around 70, and that moment proved to me that tC's are amazing tuners, because I was walking, and we were on a street with two lanes and a curb in the middle.

  • @Tagiau
    @Tagiau Рік тому +62

    Scion didn't die an ungrateful death. It did exactly what Toyota wanted. Tc's were popular with younger people, same for the frs. Then toyota graduated from Scion, and Gazoo has given us exactly what people have been asking for.

    • @bournes9845
      @bournes9845 Рік тому +6

      And the xB is just a square go kart lol

    • @tomifost
      @tomifost Рік тому +2

      Scion was Toyota. Its like saying Ziggy Stardust and David Bowie are two different people. I recently got a rebuilt xB. Its like driving a compact shuttle bus, like a camery and a vw bus had a child but it is actually kinda fun. And they get good gas mileage and last 400k+.

    • @kekene719
      @kekene719 Рік тому +1

      Biggest regret of my life was my 06 xB that I totalled 😢😢
      Probably common among scion owners lol

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому

      @@bournes9845 I still remembered that car to the GOAT of Gran Turismo, GRAN TURISMO 4. It also has Scion TC (Midnight Club 3 and NFS SHIFT 2 UNLEASHED).

    • @chesterwsmith
      @chesterwsmith Рік тому +2

      I love the 1st gen Xb. It's a toaster. I seriously consider them every time I see a cheap one for sale, so practical

  • @peterbigblock
    @peterbigblock Рік тому +2

    The Plymouth Prowler and PT Cruiser we’re totally missed opportunities to create cool halo cars.

  • @Sal-kk1nk
    @Sal-kk1nk Рік тому +42

    9/11 joke in a donut video is INSANE LMAO

  • @cacahueteasesino
    @cacahueteasesino Рік тому +13

    I remember that my local Opel Dealer had an Alero for sale. That car stood at the showroom for a really long time. Here in Spain it was "sold" as Chevrolet Alero but kept the Oldsmobile logos. The only one I've ever seen.

    • @arturofernandez8487
      @arturofernandez8487 Рік тому +2

      Creo haber visto uno en la calle, sin saber lo que era. Muy curioso

  • @baxter5024
    @baxter5024 Рік тому +1

    0:32 love how they admitted the problem for 0.5 milliseconds and then moved on. Cars should be a commodity, not a necessity

  • @austincase914
    @austincase914 Рік тому +25

    Moral of the story, GM invested too much and killed all the fun brands in the financial crisis 😂

    • @waterloo123100
      @waterloo123100 Рік тому +2

      Nothing changed either. Their investing in to the China ev game and billions on a HD truck facility 😂

  • @JJcDAmAn1
    @JJcDAmAn1 Рік тому +12

    Seeing that VERY quick Up To Speed reminded just how much I miss that show

  • @TheNewChevyRoll48
    @TheNewChevyRoll48 Рік тому +1

    "...because Penske could not find a way to actually build the cars." Blows my mind that Penske couldn't find a way to build the cars when they've been out there building cars and winning championships in IndyCar, Trans-Am, IMSA, and NASCAR

  • @Rebecca_The_Dragon
    @Rebecca_The_Dragon Рік тому +12

    Thank you for crediting John Delorean, nobody gives him enough credit for sparking the muscle car era.

  • @mutten55
    @mutten55 Рік тому +19

    I just wanted to say, Justin was the perfect choice as new member back then and he's been rocking it.

  • @Herowebcomics
    @Herowebcomics Рік тому +6

    It is sad to see those companies go,but their memories will never die!

    • @Olds_Pwr
      @Olds_Pwr 10 місяців тому

      As we die, so will the names. Such as Google this - List of defunct automobile manufacturers of the United States

  • @dastumer
    @dastumer Рік тому +13

    You guys missed the most important GM brand of them all, Daewoo. It was shuttered post financial crisis as well. While not sold in the US later on as Daewoos, many Daewoo models were sold in the US under Chevrolet and Suzuki badging.

  • @TheDankLad
    @TheDankLad Рік тому +19

    Pontiac was so sad when they went out due to bankruptcy my sister owns a G6 GT and there simple cars

  • @TwentyEightySeven
    @TwentyEightySeven Рік тому +1

    You missed Rover, the UK brand that died in 2005 which also owned MG that was spun off and sold to the Chinese. Had a feeling this vid would be “Every car company THAT WAS SOLD IN THE US that was killed this century”!

  • @guillermor9207
    @guillermor9207 Рік тому +14

    4:15 *September 11th has entered the chat*

  • @majixmatrix
    @majixmatrix Рік тому +25

    Need some "Up to Speed" back in my life

  • @Marylandtecher86
    @Marylandtecher86 Рік тому +6

    Hey James I just wanted to say great job on these videos. Somehow you always make me laugh, and it’s usually with the smallest twist of a word or some kind of goofy pronunciation 😂 The videos are always well done and informative. Fun way to learn more about one of my favorite hobbies. To everyone at Donut keep up the good work. Great channel. High quality production.

  • @racecarrik
    @racecarrik Рік тому +15

    I'm glad Saab is the first company mentioned in this video because that's the first company that came to mind, rip 😥

    • @5Ci0N
      @5Ci0N Рік тому +4

      They named Plymouth first though...

    • @cgi2002
      @cgi2002 Рік тому +1

      Stupid bit is SAAB still exist, just not under their own brand name. The SAAB 9-3 is used as the base platform for another car.
      Also should be noted that SAAB automotive haven't been part of the SAAB group since 2000, the core group is still alive and kicking making jets for the US Air force.

    • @msk-g3783
      @msk-g3783 Рік тому

      @@cgi2002 Do you know of any interviews/articles regarding this. I have had a fascination with saab as of late and would like to read about the main people behind the cars and where they went.

    • @cgi2002
      @cgi2002 Рік тому +1

      @@msk-g3783 unfortunately not and the information I could find on the automotive side was lacking. Plenty of info on their aircraft business however.

  • @painterchi3034
    @painterchi3034 Рік тому +35

    It's good to see Justin more often. He seems like a good fellow.

  • @kylemeans8342
    @kylemeans8342 Рік тому +2

    Pontiac Oldsmobile Mercury were probably the best ones out of all those

  • @mentat1341
    @mentat1341 Рік тому +22

    "Ask your doctor if Alero is right for you" is so cold lol🥶

  • @cloed0ll
    @cloed0ll Рік тому +41

    Here to give my love to Pontiac and Oldsmobile because I truly love them. :(

    • @mattm7798
      @mattm7798 Рік тому +1

      Haha, I always thought the oldsmobile had possibly the worst name in cars. Old and Mobile. Why would anyone under 65 want one?

    • @DrOldsmobile91
      @DrOldsmobile91 Рік тому +5

      ​@@mattm7798 I'm in the under 65 demographic and I still want an Olds lol, in fact I have one now 😂

    • @cloed0ll
      @cloed0ll Рік тому +1

      @@mattm7798 I'm 16 going on 17, and I was ALWAYS obsessed with the Alero coupe

    • @GTAMAN561
      @GTAMAN561 Рік тому +3

      @@mattm7798 to be fair the founder's last name was Olds.

  • @jacobmosier9880
    @jacobmosier9880 Рік тому +2

    No real mentions of Geo, Merkur, Daihatsu, Suzuki, AMC, Eagle, Sterling, Daewoo, Isuzu, etc?

  • @craigsampson3386
    @craigsampson3386 Рік тому +8

    James: JUST LIKE TESLA!
    Justin: 👀

  • @DaLoveDonkey69420
    @DaLoveDonkey69420 Рік тому +12

    I had a 93' Bonneville, I loved that 3800 motor, best engine I've ever had under a hood(not fastest,just overall best I've had). Felt like riding on clouds, interior was comfy and plenty of room in the trunk, I forgot the average MPG but gas wasn't as expensive in 2004-2006 as it is now.

    • @BlackRam17
      @BlackRam17 Рік тому +1

      Bonnevilles were great cars

  • @shadowgattler
    @shadowgattler Рік тому +11

    Rest in peace Scion. I still love my xB.

  • @ashtonnelson2624
    @ashtonnelson2624 Рік тому +11

    Honourable mention for Isuzu. While the brand hasn’t gone entirely defunct as they are still producing commercial duty trucks for the US market, Isuzu has not sold a passenger vehicle in the US since 2008 with their last models being a rebadged Colorado and Trailblazer(I-290 & Ascender) through their partnership with GM.

    • @bluephreakr
      @bluephreakr Рік тому

      Nickleback's Chad Kroeger used the brand in a song about wanting to be a rock star. Everybody _still_ didn't care, and everybody probably hated it _more_ because Nickleback.

    • @skylovescars69420
      @skylovescars69420 Рік тому +4

      They still exist as a car brand in Australia, and they are very popular. They sell the Isuzu DMAX and the MUX, which are original cars, and are awesome.

    • @YingHobbies
      @YingHobbies Рік тому

      Strange, they still sell sedans in asia

  • @MrBradclack
    @MrBradclack Рік тому +1

    The hummer H2 and H3 use to look huge now they are around the same size as an average Japanese double cab Ute

  • @montecorbit8280
    @montecorbit8280 Рік тому +5

    At 4:29
    Oldsmobile....
    Oldsmobile with the second oldest car manufacturer on the planet when it was trashed.
    It started before the early 1900s. It actually started in 1897....
    It may seem trivial to you, not really carrying a whole lot.... But some of us actually like the history of cars and want the facts!!

  • @thehobonoob2692
    @thehobonoob2692 Рік тому +4

    My dream car was an 04-07 supercharged Grand Prix I ended up getting one in very good condition for less than $1000. Modding it has been very fun and surprisingly cheap to make power.

  • @AContentCreatr
    @AContentCreatr 8 місяців тому +1

    Why did i just get an actual ad for a nissan frontier done by nolan

  • @curseup
    @curseup Рік тому +5

    I don't know if Donut knows what hotwives (1:50) are or if that was just an accident but... well played boys

  • @mybackhurts7020
    @mybackhurts7020 Рік тому +5

    I remember being an excited teenager about the PT cruiser when we seen the really cool concept car

  • @coreymegran6332
    @coreymegran6332 Рік тому +11

    Whoever edited this video is a hilarious human and should be protected at all costs.

  • @hyperhawk007
    @hyperhawk007 Рік тому +9

    Seeing the little cars changing position from James was really funny 😂😂

  • @brandon-kg2vd
    @brandon-kg2vd Рік тому +8

    Back in my day, donut media used to upload daily

  • @Treeko55
    @Treeko55 Рік тому +1

    I love pontiac and Saab. But pontiac will always have a place in my heart

  • @kiefferlmeridew
    @kiefferlmeridew Рік тому +15

    I love how Justin has really come into his own since joining Donut. He was a lil' awkward at first, but he's really found his groove!

  • @Golds_442
    @Golds_442 Рік тому +17

    Oldsmobile made a lot of great muscle cars. Also known for the first American fwd car in 1966 and first production turbo charged car

    • @Anonymous-fo7bk
      @Anonymous-fo7bk Рік тому

      nobody likes fwd. not an achievement.

    • @Golds_442
      @Golds_442 Рік тому

      Oof big mad

    • @Anonymous-fo7bk
      @Anonymous-fo7bk Рік тому

      @@Golds_442 how am I mad I’m just stating a point fwd is a cheap alternative to rwd

    • @Golds_442
      @Golds_442 Рік тому +1

      @@Anonymous-fo7bkFirst comment sounds like some teen angst opinion

    • @Anonymous-fo7bk
      @Anonymous-fo7bk Рік тому

      @@Golds_442 just pointing how how much fwd sucks ass it is only used in cheap ass cars to save money. Just stating that Oldsmobile was the first one to implement shitty fwd.

  • @Haulinbassracing
    @Haulinbassracing Рік тому +4

    Dude actually looks sober and not off a half week long coke binge. Glad hes getting healthier

  • @megamiteexplosion
    @megamiteexplosion Рік тому +5

    Rip pontiac and holden :'( my absolute favorite cars. I wish they were around at least a few more years. Ex employees say pontiac had HUGE plans at the turn of the century. Then around 04 they were forced to cut down more and more, the budget just got tighter and tighter until there was nothing left.

    • @danielzhang1916
      @danielzhang1916 Рік тому

      GM was only supposed to have 2 brands afterwards, but they were able to have 4 in the end

  • @SummitCoyote
    @SummitCoyote Рік тому +13

    i miss saturn. the saturns that were actually not just re-badged chevys. the S series. I had an old SL2 that had 353K miles on it, had survived a wreck, and all sorts of abuse. and as long as you kept oil in it, it would never die and in fact it never did. It was totaled in an accident. and the LL0 was a legendarily reliable engine. not to mention they were dirt cheap even new.
    Saturn died long before they shuttered the company when they started badge engineering

    • @kevingarofalo8493
      @kevingarofalo8493 Рік тому +2

      Me too, and after GM took it over, they actually came out with the Ion in 03 first before the Chevy branded Cobalt in 04.

    • @slightlyaboveaveragebutaverage
      @slightlyaboveaveragebutaverage Рік тому +1

      The S series really was a step up in the 90s. It's a shame that GM in fighting caught up to them and forced them to make like Olds and Pontiac.

    • @danielzhang1916
      @danielzhang1916 Рік тому +1

      yeah GM ruined these brands long before, the cars were basically badge copies

    • @rjfaber1991
      @rjfaber1991 Рік тому +1

      Weren't the last years of Saturn mostly them just selling rebadged European Opels/Vauxhalls? Actually makes a lot of sense in a post-2008 environment (Ford did very well out of selling European-engineered Focuses and Fiestas in North America), but I guess GM's always going to GM.

    • @AlmostSickBoy
      @AlmostSickBoy Рік тому +1

      ​@rjfaber1991 and I was pretty surprised that they didn't mentioned that Sky is based on the platform that was developed from the Lotus originally

  • @1248-f8u
    @1248-f8u Рік тому +4

    I miss Pontiac so much. They made pretty fun cars for a reasonable price.

  • @MiataPreludes
    @MiataPreludes Рік тому +12

    Rip all these brands :( you will be missed

  • @arturofernandez8487
    @arturofernandez8487 Рік тому +24

    RIP Daewoo, you won't be missed

    • @andrewsmith5198
      @andrewsmith5198 Рік тому +3

      Im driving a chevy aveo or Daewoo right now. Its a POS

    • @t436
      @t436 Рік тому +2

      @@andrewsmith5198 Cruze was a Daewoo too

    • @mikafiltenborg7572
      @mikafiltenborg7572 Рік тому +1

      😂😂

    • @arturofernandez8487
      @arturofernandez8487 Рік тому +1

      I mean I have one and they don't break but they're basic AF

    • @jessicayoon9940
      @jessicayoon9940 Рік тому

      I heard the later ones were actually decent according to their owners.
      Not like it helped lol.

  • @austindravetsky8887
    @austindravetsky8887 Рік тому +1

    The cobalt ss actually came after the Saturn ion redline, the redline also came with half doors which was cool

  • @BOABModels
    @BOABModels Рік тому +6

    Rover, anyone? The last brand of British Leyland standing (along with MG who sort of still exist) who were making cars in the UK for over 100 years before they stopped in 2005.
    They birthed Land Rover and Range Rover and were used by Prime Ministers and the Royal Family!
    Interestingly, the Rover name is now owned by Jaguar Land Rover but the brand is currently dormant.

    • @ConradNeill
      @ConradNeill Рік тому +1

      Ruairidh MacVeigh just did a 4 part series on the death of the British car industry. Well worth a watch. Many years ago I had a Rover 213, it was the first car I ever bought. I got over 3 years of trouble-free driving out of it, except for a clutch replacement, before the rust meant it wouldn't pass a roadworthiness test. It was a sad day when I had to say goodbye to the old girl. The way BMW dealt with Rover was shameful.

    • @BOABModels
      @BOABModels Рік тому +1

      ​@@ConradNeill I'll have to look that up. My grandad worked for Rover until he retired in 1997 so I remember my family talking about BMW from the time.

  • @speedracer2please
    @speedracer2please Рік тому +4

    Some powerful feelings when I saw that Up To Speed intro lol
    Love the dynamic between you two, this one is hilarious!

  • @TFFMando
    @TFFMando Рік тому +1

    the 2001 joke and the face zoom, deafening silence was too funny

  • @eduardogutierrez3753
    @eduardogutierrez3753 Рік тому +11

    Why were there soooo many culturally significant references in this episode lmfao wtf I love these two together 😂

  • @jonask242
    @jonask242 Рік тому +5

    great to see Justin finding his flow on the channel

  • @undeadlegend696
    @undeadlegend696 7 місяців тому +1

    A Mercury is the only car from any of these brands that ive ridden in and ive only seen maybe one or two others.

  • @MrJrv1993
    @MrJrv1993 Рік тому +20

    My aunt sold Saturns in the 90’s. She said it was a fantastic company to work for and the cars were very good value/quality.
    Definitely a company that could have thrived if given the right direction and an owning company that gave a shit about them.

    • @IPursuePeppers-CTH
      @IPursuePeppers-CTH Рік тому

      Same thing goes for Pontiac, I feel that they were cheated a little ngl

  • @michaelgill7994
    @michaelgill7994 Рік тому +16

    I will always have a spot in my heart for Olds and Pontiac.

  • @zakr7429
    @zakr7429 Рік тому +5

    Oldsmobile was responsible for so many innovations, also to include the first of the Tri-five and other famous body platforms that shaped America. The cutlass was the first A body, they had the TRUE first assembly line, the first HUD in a car, and even made some land speed records. The name and lack of unique styling definitely killed it hard

  • @l.r.234
    @l.r.234 Рік тому +18

    It's crazy how many companies GM has ruined and killed over the years.

  • @samuelletriste-sire4641
    @samuelletriste-sire4641 Рік тому +8

    message au monteur : 1:33 Je partage ta souffrance