Glorious GMMK Pro review (Glorious Pandas)
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Skip to 15:47 for a typing demonstration.
Today we look at Glorious' new GMMK Pro! With a whole bunch of extras, no less. And aso the much-requested Glorious Pandas. Hope you enjoy the video! :)
Intro by Kyle Carter
Outro by Facundo Cabanne
My keyboard reviews: bit.ly/1TbOtft
My switch teardowns: bit.ly/2C1QGHz
My TOP X videos: bit.ly/2FmpZfd
My XL typing demos: bit.ly/2OoAW3w
My tutorials and featurettes: bit.ly/2OrkLUh
My unboxing videos: bit.ly/2TSrr0m
I'm Thomas and I do videos and reviews on mechanical keyboards ranging from the most sickening modern RGB gaming keyboards to vintage hardware relics, or sometimes keycaps or keyswitches ranging from Cherry MX to Alps SKCM to IBM buckling springs and anything in between.
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The practice sentence was: "Hello my name is Thomas and I'm typing on a GMMK Pro right now. This was quite a project, but I really enjoyed it overall in the end. See you in the next video.!
PLEASE NOTE: a lot of people are commenting that Glorious Pandas are not pre-lubed. THESE ARE.
don't forget to pin this tom
The newer batches that shipped with the GMMK pro are pre-lubed. The earlier batches were not. It's actually stated on the box, so you can tell if your batch was pre-lubed or not.
Maybe with all this MX madness its time to do a video running down the modern/more available MX alternatives. Plus I wanna know if Mattias ever fixed their chattering/switch reliability issues
A lot of people are commenting hacking scams these days.
@@Spec0psGrunt I've been wondering about the latter myself, lately. From what little I could find on the subject, I don't think it sounds like they have. I would like to pick up one of their clicky boards at some point, although personally my main worry is the horrible shiny case they use. I don't know if it could maybe be sanded down and repainted with a matte finish, or if that would just destroy the thing...
I love how this man shits on the entire community and their tendencies, while still providing great insight and recommendations. BTW, your Imperial math is on point.
Imperial maths*
If you have ever hung around r/MechanicalKeyboards for an extended amount of time, you will know that the entire community is in desperate need of shiting upon.
@@matthewdunphy8524 Reddit is not representative for the whole community just to be clear. IMO it's the actuall bottom of it.
@@gunjja13 Yeah, I agree.
@@matthewdunphy8524 Reddit community is about mods for cherry switches. Top posts are different variations of cherry switches and multicolor keycaps.
Chyrosran22 reviews just hit different. I know he's a grumpy old bastard that just wants to retire, but the community needs him. He keeps us grounded in the old school enthusiast priorities during the custom MX boom.
agreed.
hearing all the other reviews of this board being just so god damn pretentious, i was like "where is the guy with the common sense around here" and taeha's diatribe at the end of his video where he says "community" a bunch of times made me wanna just sell all my shit.
@@cortlong taeha is the face of the organization, chyrosran22 is our shadow leader.
Chyrosran is the dude trying to get us all to quit our jobs and burn the organization down.
He's basically the representative of deskthority on youtube while most other keyboard youtubers focus on r/mk type stuff
Honestly if I never discovered his channel, would have probs made a regretting decision such as this
110'' pizzaburger hot dogs. Well my monitor sure did enjoy that water.
The deadpan delivery was just absolute perfection, too
The reason why so many people want to hear Thomas' "neolithic" opinions about a modern super hyped keyboard/switch is precisly because it is shielded (in its "neolithicness") from all the hype and BS from either the "gaming crowds" or the "custom keyboard elites" (r/mechanichalkeyboards and Geekhack come to mind) mob mentality about what is a good, bad or outstanding keyboard.
At least that is why I always want to hear his opinion about "modern" keyboards and switches anyway...
Couldn't agree more man
As somebody who uses a Model F XT, it's also always nice to know how more "modern" keyboards stack up in terms of keyswitch feel and build quality.
@@siotsoni9854 True. If you use vintage boards, no one else on UA-cam is better suited to give you a good comparisson between those and the newer stuff than him! XD
If what you people say is true,
I may have dodged a tank round by accidentally finding Thomas here on youtube.
@@siotsoni9854 I've been in both camps. I built some keyboards using MX switches, particularly BOX switches, so I'm very familiar with those. Now I've been using an XT keyboard for most of a week. My conclusion. . . The XT makes modern keyboards seem like flimsy toys, and I adapted to the antiquated key layout much quicker than I expected. It's actually working great, and I am learning to like it a lot. However. . . As lovely as capacitive buckling springs are, I still think my best actual typing experience has been on BOX Burnt Orange (tactile) and Pale Blue (clicky) switches. The XT keystroke sound and feel is just a bit harsh to me.
You saved me from the money sucking depths of the custom keyboard community, I am now climbing the soul consuming heights of the vintage keyboard market.
Beware. The vintage market can suck money just as hard.
Why not both? My first mech was some CM storm thing, then I got an Apple M0116, now I've got about ten keyboards sitting around somewhere. Good luck on the hunt, and it was nice knowing you had some spending money, cuz it's gone.
in 10 years, modern boards will be vintage
@@nbshftr seeing as most custom parts are only available in super expensive group buys once, and then go for thousands on the aftermarket after they're discontinued, modern keyboards are basically vintage at the same time, if that makes any sense. Personally I really hate it and it just makes the market for customs rather inaccessible for most people who don't want to spend a fortune on a single keyboard that doesn't even have a function row or a numpad.
@@CaptainShovelHead Valid points all around. A decent, tested vintage keyboard (like an AEK or Dell AT101) will run you about $100 on eBay; solidly built, great key-feel, long lasting construction. The GMMK Pro, with switches and keycaps, will run you about $250. I now have both, but my M0116 Apple Standard Keyboard holds more emotional weight.
"Am i out of touch? No, it's the OTHER keyboard enthusiasts who are wrong"
~Chyrosran22, probably
Joking aside, great video.
This, but unironically.
Who said anything about wrong? :p
@@Chyrosran22 "Your opinion is objectively wrong" -r/mk
@@jcat187 "Of course it's about preference. MY PREFERENCE." - Glarses
@@JanPospisilArt Hahaha that guy is great xD .
take a shot whenever Thomas says "glorious"
This game sucks, I’ve lost eyesight and I texted my ex
I'm gloriously wasted
Four minutes in and I’m going to the hoapital
This is fhffj fun chisoslge
Well now that I’m shitfaced by 4 mins in, the rest of this video will surely be a blur when I wake up tomorrow.
I think the MX gang are also focused on feel and sound, but their idea of what's desirable is very different.
They're much more after lightweight lubed smoothness and the muted thock, rather than an echoing click or clack.
That and all the different layouts and programmability.
This, i think the linear feel that is possibly with custom MX style switches, lubed and all that shit, is pretty damn good. I guess whats lacking, and whats chryos and vintage preferences, are tactile and clicky switches. But i dont think therese that much demand currently for clicky switches in the enthusiast community currently.
Part of it is that they don't even bother trying other switch types, or even learning about them. I heard one guy say that all capacitive keyboards are Topre clones, I mean I knew about IBM's capacitive keyboards from the 70s and 80s back when I was using a crappy Razer rubber dome keyboard :/
@Karml Arrogance and unwillingness to learn are like peanut butter and jelly.
MX fanboys are delusional because they refuse to try other switches. MX switches were made to be cheap yet those fools build $300-$1000 keyboards out of them. They refuse to try anything else.
I'll speak upon my experience. My brother thinks his junky RGB red dragon cherry MX reds keyboard is the bees knees which I hated. Meanwhile I tried Logitech MX keys, almost every MX switch over because I had a sample board. I hate all MX switches because they are all scratchy.
Now I'm trying unicomp's model M with buckling springs, I'm almost certain that I may really enjoy it.
His honest, humble, and hilarious presentation on keyboards really goes to show that you don't need fancy editing, music, sound effects and all that to be reliable. Keep up the great work man
Who needs editing when you got this GLORIOUS voice?
@@akbg Ikr xD
what about the keycap animations?
This is probably the best and most honest gmmk pro review, although that's what I expected before the video even came out. It's refreshing to see a youtube channel that doesn't just sit there and go off about all the current MX hackjobs and actually reviews a large and diverse range of keyboards, meanwhile the average tech channel won't touch a Model F with a 10 meter pole and a hazmat suit.
To be fair I am sometimes jealous of trying out the MX hack jobs. I got my endgame vintage pretty early and it's hard for me to try new keyboards when I have such a good one. At the same time, I'm glad I don't have to spend those obscene prices unless one day I go after a beam spring keyboard.
You are absolutely correct. I've found that vintage keyboard enthusiasts are mainly focused on the actual switch feeling throughout the keypress. Whereas modern keyboard enthusiasts arent too concerned about the actual feeling you get when pressing down the switch but more of the feeling you get when bottoming out.
Sound is the most important thing to most modern enthusiasts imo.
@@Ginronmaster1994 If people want sound they should click-mod a Dell Bigfoot. I did mine and I reckon it sounds better than my '89 IBM Model M now!
I’d say sound is more preference and equally sought after between both
@@Ginronmaster1994 from what I see on custom modern keyboard enthusiasts, either they trying to make the sound thocky but sounds like very wet lubed switches, or no sound at all.
Someone did a poll on Twitter to keyboard enthusiasts about it, and I was left amazed that about two thirds of those who answered think sound is more important than feel to them.
Well, I'm also a bit amazed that enthusiasts seek keyboards that have a soft feel, like what is the main point of those gaskets. If a laptop keyboard would buckle under force like how the gaskets should work, I would label it as cheap and bad. That said, I haven't actually tried a keyboard with real give in that way, so who knows if I'd actually see the light if I did.
'Aluminium. That's with two I's for those that don't speak proper English.' I fucking love you.
Definitely the most interesting review of this board
Thomas’ reviews make you realize how batshit crazy the custom keyboard community actually is.
just so you know, glorious' take on "custom" is pretty poorly executed and full of marketing junk lol
@@thesaintnoodle I mean it's not bad, and seeing as it's so cheap (when compared to more premium customs) it's a pretty great deal, at least they have somewhat good marketing, unlike Razer, Corsair and other manufacturers that just ruin their keyboards with marketing junk, unnecessary software, overpricing and whatnot.
@@thesaintnoodle It's not poorly executed at all,in fact, this cheap 170 dollar mass-produced Alu board has the same or better finishing than many 500-600dollar custom boards... says a lot about the custom market...
@@mrsrandommademedoit3387 you say many but have you seen all of the units of these many boards?
@@thesaintnoodle I don't need to know. Keyboards at this price point are usually plastic gasket mount or aluminum but no gasket mount and integrated plate.
It's great to see an alternative POV on this keyboard, and in a way, I'm glad that you saw why people use MX design switches. The level of customisability that the ecosystem provides is enticing to say the least (because everyone makes stuff around the MX switch designs, be it the PCB - and by extension, the keyboard -, keycaps, and switches)
MX is the worst switches in my opinion. I'd say that the rubber dome was better because at least it wasn't scratchy. Mushy yes but still better than scratchy.
THIS is the GMMK pro review I have been waiting for.
RE: plate bounciness - I can't say I was interested in it until I tried a gasket-mounted board with a polycarb plate. It's less like a trampoline and more like those rubber drawer-stops that keep cabinets from making loud slamming sounds; it takes the edge off, and I like it quite a lot more than I expected to.
Yes, I have been waiting for this! Make me regret my buying decision.
Edit: I'm surprised you liked it. Now I feel better about my purchase.
I've been following your channel before I got into the custom mech keyboard community and you're definitely the breath of fresh air in this pretentious ass community. Thank u.
Your take is the most unique of any I've seen. Thanks for contributing.
This is the reviewer we need and the reviewer the community deserves.
+1 for aluminium and metrics
That blue ombre/gradient though.... Kind of amazing.
What a great review. Totally void of the bias found in all reviews done by "members of the custom keyboard community". I'd say the only glaring omission is that of any discussion of the programmability of this board, esp. as compared to the mfr.'s claims. The statement that MX-type switches are for people who don't care about switches is sure to raise some eyebrows LOL. Keep up the great work, Thomas!
THANK YOU for calling out this obsession with flex in mounting plates. It's just such a ridiculously anal part of the modern custom MX hobby that literally nobody else seems to question. I mean seriously, we used to groan at laptop keyboards for having deck flex. Suddenly we actually WANT deck flex on our keyboards again?
Edit: Your points at the end really also needed to be said. I would still point out that the well-known effects that lube has on MX switches are a big part of the appeal with their customizeability, but definitely there's a lot of denial in this hobby by people who bend over backwards to push just how expensive they can make their tiny 60% custom keyboards that'll never sound as good as a huge vintage chassis that's mostly plastic.
Couldn't they just get that small amount of flex from PCB-mounted switches like with the G80-1800?
have you tried such flex boards? if not then your opinion does not matter.
"we used to groan at laptop keyboards for having deck flex. Suddenly we actually WANT deck flex on our keyboards again"
that's a part of the evolution of humans. we wandered around wondering what actually suits our needs and desired, and often times we go back to what we thought was undesirable as it turns out to be more fitting to our needs.
that's why we used to complain about phones being so big, then we went smaller and smaller, only to realize that we can fit so much more information if the screens were bigger, so we went with bigger screens, again. same thing applies with phones being thick, then people wanted it thinner, then phones got slimmer to the point that it's bendable (iPhone 6), then as of now we opt for a proper thickness (instead of as thin as possible). is going back and forth on that matter dumb and backwards? i would argue not.
same thing could easily apply to flex on keyboards. yes, people might've complained about flex on laptop keyboards in the past, but if there's actually a way of turning that flex in such a way that it makes for a better typing experience through the designation of the said flex on the production of the keyboard, then why the hell not?
@@devotedtospeed To quote Thomas up there: "Seriously guys, if plate bounciness is something that matters to you, you should really get out there and try some keyboards that're actually different."
You really didn't need to write a whole book to just say "preference". And you know what? I would actually be willing to just put it down to preference if it didn't cost three figures just to have it in a case. Does gasket mount make a difference? Sure. But would I be willing to pay even the price of a GMMK Pro just to get deck flex on a keyboard and then complain that it's not squishy enough? Nah. It needed to be said when basically nobody seems to question how tiny an issue this is that you guys in the custom hobby fuss over. If you really think it's worth spending on to get it, good for you. But don't get offended just because you're shocked that there are people questioning your status quo.
@@Boyetto-san you're expecting me to not be offended being questioned BY YOU about something you have NO CLUE about. yeah right. it's like you're an atheist who's got no clue about islam or buddha and yet you're questioning and bashing their believers in front of their faces. AND THEN you wonder why they are offended. lol
@@Boyetto-san and again, nobody cares about your opinion about gasket mounts and whatnot, because YOU HAVE NOT TRIED IT. nobody fucking cares whether you would be willing to pay for it or not because you have never, you're an outsider. i also would never pay $2000 for a macbook because as an outsider i think it sucks, but does my opinion matter to millions out there owning one? not to mention that i dont fucking care about how people spend their money.
never have i clicked on a vid so fast, cant wait to see a vintage keyboard enthusiast review one of the modern mx hackjobs
Seriously though, box pinks are a hidden gem. I tried them once and there’s no going back. Perfect tactility and sound.
A truly Glorious review, but personally could never see myself spending this much on a keyboard, and acessories.
Oh, you sweet summer child...
then you see a beamspring going for the price of an iron165 on mechmarket...
Came here for a quick review, had my mind blown by an enormous amount detail... this new hobby of mine is turning out to be a lot more complex than I first thought it would be. I thought I can just buy some components and build something unique, but this world is immense. Got a lot of homework to do... great video though, thanks!
Love the imperial units examples.
He should add actual imperial units but the most obscure ones.
Like 34000 barleycorn or 3 furlong.
I definitely prefer this review over some other 'expert' reviews complaining how wobbly the knob is or how much not wobbly the chassis is
Yes every other UA-camr has already done videos on the gmmk pro, but yours was the one I've been waiting for. :)
It's not that people don't care about the key feel more than the chassis. It's that a lot of these legendary hall-effect and ancient switches are either difficult to attain, prohibitively expensive or unserviceably dirty. Of course you're right that the inherent design of MX switches makes them inferior to other designs, but that doesn't mean the people who use them "don't care about the keys, rather they care about the chassis". I'm just trying to get the best key feel for as little money as possible. Just wanted to share my opinion. Great video :)
It also depends on where you live. There are no vintage keyboards for sale where I live. And whenever I see a vintage board on eBay the shipping usually costs as much as the board.
I did explicitly mention this point in the video :p .
@@Chyrosran22 yes I agree. But the conclusion of the video has a large impact. All I'm saying is that it couldve been better worded. Sorry if I seemed negative.
This video… it‘s just glorious.
Minor correction: the thing you describe to be gaskets is actually the dampening foam between the plate and pcb. The actual gaskets are the little foam pads around the edge of insides of the top and bottom case which isolate and "suspends" the plate assembly from the case. A side note, part of the reason this keyboard lacks any of the expected flex of a gasket mount is the case foam, which pushes against the pcb, eliminating any actual "bounce". You can remove the case foam below the PCB to regain a little "bounce" but at the cost of potentially popping off a hot swap socket since it's no longer being braced at the back by the foam.
Also. Modern tactile switches sux.
Have a nice day.
This looks like the perfect keyboard for someone dipping their toes into custom MX based setups. Great review as usual!
describes me haha
i wanted a sat 75 but fuck paying $450 for JUST the case and waiting 6 months for it
glorious is democratizing the "premium" keyboard and I'm all for it
There are two groups of people in the mechanical keyboard community: 1. those people looking for the ultimate, lubed, linear or “tactile” switch, who are obsessed with “smoothness”, “thwok” and reduced sound; 2. those of us who like clicky switches.
7:35 The joke legit got me, I was not expecting to catch strays like that ☠️
1:05 I just love how he went from "I'm defending them" to "I'm gonna stomp them into the ground myself" in the span of 1 second :^)
Just what I needed today
I really like watching your reviews, because you are one of the keyboard enthusiasts who don't look for that "chonk" noise or whatever it's called. God, that noise haunts my dreams.
Thock?
@@Shin_97 The sound that very lubed stabilizers do.
When I paused at 11:26 and giggled and laughed wholeheartedly at those graphs, mom looks genuinely concerned with me.
lmaoooo
Eventually some opportunistic company will go all in on the idea of a new MX mount compatible modern Alps inspired design or something else non-MX clone and a lot more eyes and avenues will be opened. Then custom keyboards will get really exciting.
Work is already underway along exactly those lines!
@@Chyrosran22 Space invaders also have no patent remaining on them, so if anyone wanted to manufacture modern copies, they'd be free to. Would kill for MX mount space invaders, since they're such a stable and rugged switch. Sadly, I don't think anyone is working on that atm.
@@lane9668 In all fairness, a lot of the unique properties of Space Invaders are due to the shape of the slider, which wouldn't be quite the same in an MX-mount design. The increased height would probably not work very well considering how rock-stable the switches are.
@@Chyrosran22 It'd probably make them hilariously tall, but you could probably restructure the slider to give enough clearance to fit the caps and add a plus shaped extrusion to mount them. Even if they weren't MX mount, I'd just like to see them being produced again, as vintage examples are starting to dry up and go up in price
@@Chyrosran22 Do tell! :O
7:30 Actually, "Aluminium" was originally named "Aluminum" by its creator. Also, substances in Latin are named "-um", not "-ium" lol. For example, take ferrum (iron), aurum (gold), argentum (silver), vitrum (woad/glass), and lignum (wood).
7:40 this line just earned you a subscriber
Who would've thought the endgame worthy keyboards are the ones that I started with... when I was a 5 year old...
It really depends. If you are talking about clicky keyboards you aren't wrong but slowly becoming more wrong. The Model F is one of the best clicky keyboards but can still be bought new. I would argue linears are better now as hall effect keyboards and optical keyboards are becoming more affordable. The vintage tactiles are better though because there was more competition.
I'm interested in a boba u4 review, this might be a great board to try with them since you don't seem to shame the design.
More like Booba u4, I'm so funny.
what about a booba u4t
Sorry to burst your bubble, but I don't think Chyros would actually go out of his way to buy and review the Boba-s unless someone donates some to him.
He's stated multiple times that he just finds the MX-style switches to be very samey and boring (not bad, distinction between boring and bad needs to be clear), hence why he's more interested in vintage keyboards which offer different switch designs and feel.
And tbh I'm glad Chyros is keeping his review preferences like this, as I'm personally also someone who thinks the MX-style clones are getting kind of boring, and am starting to look into vintage keebs more.
Having someone like Chyros who focus on high quality vintage switches and keyboard reviews is a godsend.
Just my 2-cents on the matter tho. If he does try out the Boba-s I'll still look forward to his opinion on them, tho again don't expect much other than similar comments to the Glorious Pandas. (Especially since let's face it even the Boba-s still don't really remove the "saw-toothy" tactile feel Chyros described)
@@toasty6986 He would likely do both, but i think that boba u4 would be more interesting since it is quiet
@@ButteredTimbers i'm pretty sure he would just say get a good rubber dome keyboard, and i would probably say the same. i have the u4t myself and i have no reason to try and understand why anyone would want to have the regular u4
I'm already in only for the glorious panda toy.
Also, screw cherry MX and their clones. Let's make keyboards with hot swappable beamspring and univac msmss switches!
I just got my apex pro and I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!!!! thanks to one of your older reviews I got interested in it and now it’s on my desk. Nice!
I have this theory that since there are not many good tactile and/or clicky switches for the mx mount, most most modern custom enthusiasts are drawn to linears. And since most linears are the very similar, people like to try different mounting methods ("gasket", "leafsprings" etc) and plate materials (polycarbonate etc), and fiddle around more the board itself. The "bounce" you talk about is quite nice when the switches are plain old linears. It introduces some level of feedback when bottoming out, on what would otherwise be a very boring keypress.
I'd say linear lovers now are in a better place than ever, and it's not with MX! xD
@@Chyrosran22 not sure I mean what you mean, but mx linears are quite good. I'm not talking cherry here, mote gateron and the newer JWK-made mx type switches.
@@kanskejonasidag1 Honestly MX designs can't hold a candle to these modern contactless switches. They are so smooth you'd barely believe it. Linear switches are now in a better place than ever!
You can have a look a the review of this keyboard made by Andy V Nguyen, in which he delivers a critical review and points out the cons of the board and what is incorrect according to the marketing, instead of going with the hype.
Great review man, I may consider getting a GMMK Pro, after seeing your positive (enough) review.
Have u see the review by JYMV?
@@szchietzmane6436 I will, and I expect a critical and unbiased review from him as well.
The enema balloon, so you can prepare yourself before shoving the keyboard you know where if you don't like it. Nice.
Iirc the issue with the phrase "Master Race" isn't just the slavery connotations, but also the idea of the master race being heavily adopted by nazis. The phrase has continued to be used by some neonazis or otherwise white supremacists. While obviously pcmr was never a racist thing itself, I can understand them trying to shy away from branding themselves as the superior "master race" due to the history of the word.
Overall pretty glorious, give or take. Glorious!
Have a glorious day, cheers!
Yup, the community got weird. I remember when a hand-wired vintage alps build was something that turned heads. Right now it's about getting an overpriced cherry clone, drowning it in lube, only to ditch it in a month because something new popped up on drop or novelkeys xD
Sounds like the sneaker community...
You should look at the Boba U4Ts from Gazeew They are some pretty deep sounding switch for an mx type switch
Can vouch for both Gazzew and the U4Ts.
Fundamentally it's just another MX type panda / ergo variant. It's not going to change his mind about MX tactiles
7:45 When you dropped the keyboard I thought my neighbour dropped an anvil or something
Omg finally someone who echoes my sentiments on the rounded tactility of the pandas. Contrary to the popular belief of especially the new ''keyboard reviewers'', l've never actually felt that these switches has that rounded tactility that was religiously raved about by the community.
The main purpose of the brass weights is to stop the twangy metallic case ping, the extra heft is just a side bonus
But when will the Alps clone market become diverse enough to justify Alps hotswaps?
I am begging for this outcome, even though the switches def won't stay in through a keycap pull.
I'm longing for when I can get a nice set of Alps mount keycaps to replace the ones on my click-modded Dell AT102W to replace the yellow ones it currently has! :(
@@FrontSideBus keep an eye on this GB: geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102206.200
@@FrontSideBus The alps keycaps situation is dire.
Matias might make a killing if they offered an MX mount option.
I'm also traumatized at this point from breaking old Alps keycaps. It's terrifying to pull them and none of the new offerings seem up to the same standard as vintage ones can be.
The best Alps were always complicated, an no-one makes them anymore. Unless something radical happens, Alps designs will NEVER match their old performance, I reckon. I do have high hopes for the new hybrid switches, though.
Facts, my dream would be to see some alps clones start hitting the market.
The most straightforward review out there
You might find Boba U4T interesting - as someone who cycles through orange alps / amber alps (they’re better than blues fight me) / topres I find them to be one of the few MX tactile switches that do actually feel and sound great.
Manufactured by Outemu, too, of all companies. Cheapest brand has the best Panda derivative, who'd have thought?
Yooo. Boba gang!
does the feel just the same as boba u4?
@@lupitlupitan U meant the silent version?
@@szchietzmane6436 yes
I do find it quite interesting that the community have roughly 500 linear MX switches. Not sure how one can make so many different linear switches so differently to warrant such a high number of them, besides having different springs I guess.
The aesthetic, as in the colors
Linear market lately is dominated by JWK
@@szchietzmane6436 Sounds odd. Then again this hobby is rather freaking odd to begin with. Click clack clock. Hehehehe.
@@WolfMimirMori Yeah, also as a tactile gang i don't really get the linear gang mindset either
And the Glorious Evenings with their colour scheme is just... perfect :D
I guess “ascend” makes sense if you consider the context of a command line environment where you’re “sending” commands upward
Wilba and Chyrosran sharing a conversation would sound as heavenly as Taeha's holy pandas Fjell typing test.
I've found out that I actually don't mind the scratchiness of my Kailh brown switches, the slightly less pronounced bottom out feel of O-rings (which actually sound like they should be part of the set with the blower) and strangely enough the minimal tactility. Also those: Glorious Panda's sound fine to me, although a bassier sound would be preferable. I've ordered a set of Kailh switches (which I like) and the Jade's seem too tactile for me - although it is hard to tell by testing just one switch. So although custamizability and commercial availability may play a role, people may just prefer a different kind of switch feel. And if a keyboard or even spacebar rattles I simply won't use it - period; music should be *in tune*.
Echoing other comments here, I would like to hear your thoughts on Boba U4T switches. I'm a diehard fan of Box Jades but I instantly fell in love with the sharp and strong (for an MX switch) tactile bump - I often consider them a silent clicky.
Hipsters vs vintage snobs, the mechanical keyboard story.
Really? I thought it was gullible gamers vs. "writers" vs. old neckbeards vs. Thomas.
i love the poop slinging between mx folks and vintage folks. it's so fun to see them arguing about boards when in reality both sides are full of sh*t
It's one of the hot swappable mechanical keyboards that everyone seems to rave about now. Maybe you can review some of Keychron ones in the future?
Wow i forgot about this guy. I'm glad you still upload Good shit
I know he was the first mech keyboard youtuber I watched before the whole community blew up. I'm glad he stays rooted and doesn't fall for the trappings of other obnoxious youtubers.
The only thing more relaxing than a good keyboard sound test is Chyrosran's voice.
different mounts are becoming the new frankenswitches. man its rlly becoming hard to keep track of them all nowdays and the different qualities they have
Mounting the plate differently is just people not knowing what to do with the MX design, so they try to tweak EVERYTHING to alter the keyfeel, even if it barely does anything and acts like more of a placebo. This wouldn't be an issue if people were more willing to try different switch designs.
@@CaptainShovelHead This is true to an extent. The difference between a tray mount with a stiff plate and say a properly implemented gasket mount that allows for a lot of flex is pretty damn big.
I actually joined this channel when I've got an idea to make/order custom keyboard with layout & switches I'd enjoy instead of using my current rubber-domes-with-butterflies Logitech K800: especially if those would be quiet & tactile. I ordered first tester of Cherrys and was disappointed beyond any belief how bad those felt compared to my current rubber domes one (especially sandy feeling drove my crazy). I also got some Zilents v2 to try and those were much better but not to fell in love with them from the first touch (that's why I was asking you about those in some other video). Around that I've started watching your videos and still watch all of them, learned hell a lot of stuff from those without marketing bullshit of other keyboard bloggers, thanks for all of that, plz don't stop the imperial system jokes :) After all that I've learned, right now I have too options: either assemble keyboard using modern MX switches and try not to spend on overhyped stuff (god who needs backlight other than white?) or start looking for some vintage keyboards hoping for switches that would feel & sound better without virtually any ability to try those before buying. So I'm both kinda not into modern community trends and I can't easily find other options. Unless, of course, I've been living anywhere close to you (and I'm not) to kindly ask to visit the museum you've got.
Super good analysis of the market as it stands. There are a few rebels out there trying to mix classic switches with modern case design with new alps pcbs and the like and theres been people experimenting with adapting the mx to fit a clickjacket. But by and large mx has been treated as a standard like it were usb. Others like you say, myself included have accepted it as a compromise that allows a focus on developments in case design. If it were up to me there'd be various pcbs and plates that allow for various switches old and new available but of course that takes time and the audience for that is small
Where to order the pre lubed panda’s?
I have one. The stabs are some of the worst I've used. The left-shift would bind so bad that it would stick in the down position. Replaced the stabs and everything is ok. The profile on-desk is really nice. The gaskets are a gimmick on this board. The software is actually pretty terrible, but hopefully that will change over time.
Pizzaburger hotdogs are the best. Always make sure you buy the special edition! 😂🤣
lol if you were there and remember, they turned off the commends on their official typing video because everyone raised concerns about their stabilisers. The problem goes one of two ways; either their stabilisers aren't actually lubed enough, or the stabilisers are just poorly designed from the get go. just get some c3 or durock v2 stabilisers and you're all set. of course you already have but everyone else should too
I'm stuck in the middle.
I enjoy and prefer vintage switches like Alps but I also really like TKL or 75% layouts (but nothing smaller) and many good vintage boards are full sized behemoths.
If Glorious allowed mounting of Alps I would be so fucking happy even though there is virtually no market except for people like you and me.
as usual most interesting and fun review, thanks!
The aluminium and food references had me DYING! 👊🏽😭 subbed!
I can't stand these mini keyboard layouts tbh! My sort of keyboard is an IBM Model M or a Dell Clickfoot!
With all the MX activity here lately, I'm waiting patiently for your Keycult No. 2/65 review :).
can i just say (and i've never said this before to anyone) you have the most beautiful hands ive ever seen. theyre majestic.
Chyrosran is like a professional wine taster but for keyboard
when you went to describe the gasket mounting system, you actually ended up describing the plate dampening foam lol. the gaskets are around the outside of the case between the plate and the bottom and top case. it's like a big mac but with metal and foam instead of buns and meat.
also "pre-lubed" stabilisers. I see they still haven't fixed that problem lmao
Sir Humphry Davy, the BRITISH chemist who originally discovered the metal, gave it the name "Aluminum"
As the element become more commonly known by the world throughout the 19th century, the British population mistakenly added the "ium" because of the influence of other elements ending with the same sound. In North America however, the proper original name coined by the chemist who discovered it stuck. The only reason "Aluminium" is considered the official spelling in Europe, is because so many people mistakenly called it "aluminium" that it was adopted as the official word for the element.
Just subbed, my kind of reviewer.
Glorious has released their Raptor switches, clicky, and they sound quite good in this keyboard. To me nothing compares with my old Northgate keyboards but I wore out my last one in the early 2000s.
Holy mother of god you scared the living shit out of me when you dropped the keyboard, i had the video up while doing a boring ass quest and was not ready for that x.x
Awesome video as always but I'm pretty sure glorious pandas are actually not pre-lubed, unless they changed something, because I remember one of their big marketing points was shitting on Drop's inconsistent lubing and saying that glorious pandas won't be pre-lubed.
These are.
Thomas, has the gazzew boba u4t switches already come to your knowledge? Found it to have such a nice sound and bought it for my keyboard. I would really like to see your opinion on them
13:26 most keyboard enthusiasts these days dont want those acoustic/resonance you are talking about. Actually its refered to as "hollow" and most custom keyboards try to avoid that as much as possible
great video, I enjoy hinge watching your reviews from time to time, may I ask where you are from? I'm in love with your accent
I'm Dutch.
@@Chyrosran22 oh tytyty , you're accent paired with your exquisitely crafted swear words are always a treat to listen on
I love that you recommended using box clickies with this kb. I bought a bunch of box pink (crystal variety) just because I love the tactility of them far more than the “tactility” of MX tactiles.
Then I pre-ordered the GMMK Pro, and figured they’d pair nicely. It hasn’t arrived yet, but in the meantime I’ve been reading all I can about it, NOBODY else was talking about pairing box switches with it. Until you brought it up, I started to wonder if I was about to create some horrible abomination!
Omg your voice can work for documentaries
2:37 I did put some Box Royals in myself not too long ago. Couldn't really sit down comfortably for a while afterward
Would you say you got...royally screwed?
@@JanPospisilArt Indeed. Plus I couldn't do anything to get them out again, so I felt Boxed-in as well
mm a glorious evening
I love non-clicky tactiles, and I really wish that Alps-style switches would take off in the custom community. After trying out a really tactile switch like topre or something, MX tactiles just don't feel the same.
Indeed. MX tactiles are really linears with a notch, instead of a large hump that feels tactile throughout the keystroke, even when typing quickly.
how refreshing, you've got to love a proper review that isn't presented by some pedantic prick who can only judge with mx linear and 60% with LUBE.
your reviews are glorious Thomas!
When he drop the whole damn keybored hahhaa, and you can even hear that echo goes around and around ! lmao !!!! that just make my day.